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Mike AI
11-11-2004, 09:34 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...t_arafat_carter (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/mideast_arafat_carter)


Former US President Jimmy Carter calls Arafat a "powerful human symbol"



MIAMI (AFP) - Former US President Jimmy Carter called Yasser Arafat (news - web sites) "a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate" who united Palestinians in their pursuit of a homeland.


"Yasser Arafat's death marks the end of an era and will no doubt be painfully felt by Palestinians throughout the Middle East and elsewhere in the world," Carter said.


"He was the father of the modern Palestinian nationalist movement. A powerful human symbol and forceful advocate, Palestinians united behind him in their pursuit of a homeland," he said in a statement distributed by his Atlanta, Georgia-based Carter Center.


He said that while Arafat provided "indispensable leadership to a revolutionary movement" and played a key role in forging a peace agreement with Israel in 1993, he was excluded from negotiations in recent years.


"My hope is that an emerging Palestinian leadership can benefit from Arafat's experiences, be welcomed to the peace process by (Israeli) Prime Minister (Ariel) Sharon and (US) President (George W.) Bush, and be successful in helping to forge a Palestinian state living in harmony with their Israeli neighbors," Carter said.


Both Carter and Arafat are Nobel peace prize laureates.


Arafat, who died at a Paris hospital early Thursday, was to be buried at his West Bank headquarters after a military funeral ceremony in Cairo Friday.


Carter "will not be attending the funeral," said Jon Moor, a Carter Center spokesman.

Winetalk.com
11-11-2004, 09:36 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!

Mike AI
11-11-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant.

Nickatilynx
11-11-2004, 10:08 PM
from the BBC....world leaders comment on the death of yasser araft..

For nearly four decades, he expressed and symbolised in his person the national aspirations of the Palestinian people.

Now that he is gone, both Israelis and Palestinians, and the friends of both peoples throughout the world, must make even greater efforts to bring about the peaceful realisation of the Palestinian right of self-determination.

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan




At dawn, we lost President Yasser Arafat, who we knew as a defender of justice, as a man who strove towards peace, and resisted occupation, and as a man who looked for international legitimacy.

History will judge him as a brave man who defended his people and I have total confidence in the people succeeding him in power.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak





Arafat's legacy will be the one, the leader, the president who united the Palestinian people, the leader who kept the Palestinian national identity from extinction, the man who initiated the peace of the brave, the man who united the Palestinian people and it's his legacy of peace.

It's the determination today that we continue the path of freedom and independence and peace, the path of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Palestinian cabinet minister Saeb Erekat





The recent events could be a historic turning point for the Middle East.

Israel is a country that seeks peace and will continue its efforts to reach a peace deal with the Palestinians without delay.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon





There is no doubt that with the death of Yasser Arafat an era has ended... for good or bad.

The biggest mistake of Arafat was when he turned to terror. His greatest achievements were when he tried to build peace.

Israeli opposition leader Shimon Peres





(It is) good that the world is rid of him... The sun is shining in the Middle East.


Israeli Justice Minister Tommy Lapid





The death of Yasser Arafat is a significant moment in Palestinians' history. We express our condolences for the Palestinian people.

We hope that the future will bring peace and the fulfilment of the aspirations for an independent democratic Palestine that is at peace with its neighbours.

US President George W Bush





He led his people to an historic acceptance of the need for a two-state solution.

Peace in the Middle East must be the international community's highest priority: the goal of a viable Palestinian state alongside a secure Israel is one that we must continue to work tirelessly to achieve.

We will do whatever we can working with the US and EU to help the parties reach a fair and durable settlement.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair



The Palestinian people, despite their deep pain, will know how to overcome its sorrow and pursue its efforts to recover the rights of the Palestinian people and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

Jordanian King Abdullah II




With him disappears a man of courage and conviction who for 40 years incarnated the Palestinians' fight for recognition of their national rights.

France, like its partners in the European Union, will maintain, firmly and with conviction, its commitment to two states... living side by side in peace and security.

The road map, approved by Yasser Arafat, opens up that prospect.

[...] I came to bow before President Yasser Arafat and pay him a final homage.

France, of course, will continue to tirelessly act for peace and security in the Middle East and will do so with respect for the rights of the Palestinian and Israeli people.

French President Jacques Chirac




Yasser Arafat strove during his lifetime to lead the Palestinians to independence and establish a sovereign, viable Palestinian state.

It was not granted to Yasser Arafat to complete his life's work.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder



A great political leader of international significance.

Russian President Vladimir Putin



It is perhaps the most tragic aspect of President Arafat's death that he did not live to see the fruition of his ambition of a Palestinian state, despite the early promise which attended his election as president of the Palestinian Authority.

Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern




The people of Pakistan, and indeed the entire Muslim world, is in deep shock at the passing away of Mr Arafat, who tirelessly struggled throughout his life for the attainment of the rights of the Palestinian nation and for securing an independent state for them.

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf




The death of Yasser Arafat marks not only the departure of a great leader but also a turning point in the history of the Middle East.

Yasser Arafat will be forever remembered... by people from all parts of the world for his courage and determination against all odds in championing and protecting the inalienable rights of the people of Palestine.

Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi




He was the ultimate embodiment of decades of the just struggle of a nation for its undeniable rights to self- determination.

We share in this great loss and we fervently hope that it will translate into renewed momentum for the attainment of freedom, eternal peace and prosperity for the Palestinian people in their own country.

Indonesian foreign ministry spokesman Marty Natalegawa




An outstanding leader of the Palestinian cause and... an outstanding politician.

He was deeply respected and supported by the Palestinian people and enjoyed great prestige among the international community.

Chinese President Hu Jintao




I sincerely hope the Palestinians overcome their sorrow and continue with their effort toward achieving peace and prosperity in the region.

Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi




I think history will judge him very harshly for not having seized the opportunity in the year 2000 (at US-brokered peace talks) to embrace the offer that was very courageously made by the then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, that involved the Israelis agreeing to about 90% of what the Palestinians wanted.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard




I regret that in 2000 he missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being.

[I pray] for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for a state and a better life will be realised in a just and lasting peace.

Former US President Bill Clinton



Yasser Arafat was one of the outstanding freedom fighters of this generation, one who gave his entire life to the cause of the Palestinian people.

We honour his memory today.

Former South African President Nelson Mandela



The values and high virtues that Arafat embodied during his struggle for the Palestinian cause will inspire the Palestinian people so that they preserve their cohesion and unity and pursue their path to win back their national, legitimate and eternal rights.

Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali



May God in his pity receive the soul of [Arafat] and concede peace to the Holy Land, with two independent and sovereign states, wholly reconciled.

Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls

SykkBoy
11-11-2004, 10:11 PM
people always have something nice to say about you after you die...

hell, even after Nick dies, people will sit around saying "ya know, he wasn't really THAT cunty..."

Nickatilynx
11-11-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by SykkBoy@Nov 11 2004, 07:12 PM
people always have something nice to say about you after you die...

hell, even after Nick dies, people will sit around saying "ya know, he wasn't really THAT cunty..."
I will be sorely missed ;)


cause ya see...

You're all a bunch of fucking assholes. You know why? 'Cause you don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fucking fingers, and say "that's the bad guy."

So, what dat make you?

Good?

You're not good; you just know how to hide.

Howda lie.

Me, I don't have that problem.

Me, I always tell the truth--even when I lie.

So say goodnight to the bad guy. Come on; the last time you gonna see a bad guy like this, let me tell ya. Come on, make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through; you better get outta his way!



;-)))

Hell Puppy
11-12-2004, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 11 2004, 10:09 PM
from the BBC....world leaders comment on the death of yasser araft..

For nearly four decades, he expressed and symbolised in his person the national aspirations of the Palestinian people.

Now that he is gone, both Israelis and Palestinians, and the friends of both peoples throughout the world, must make even greater efforts to bring about the peaceful realisation of the Palestinian right of self-determination.

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan




At dawn, we lost President Yasser Arafat, who we knew as a defender of justice, as a man who strove towards peace, and resisted occupation, and as a man who looked for international legitimacy.

History will judge him as a brave man who defended his people and I have total confidence in the people succeeding him in power.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak





Arafat's legacy will be the one, the leader, the president who united the Palestinian people, the leader who kept the Palestinian national identity from extinction, the man who initiated the peace of the brave, the man who united the Palestinian people and it's his legacy of peace.

It's the determination today that we continue the path of freedom and independence and peace, the path of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Palestinian cabinet minister Saeb Erekat





The recent events could be a historic turning point for the Middle East.

Israel is a country that seeks peace and will continue its efforts to reach a peace deal with the Palestinians without delay.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon





There is no doubt that with the death of Yasser Arafat an era has ended... for good or bad.

The biggest mistake of Arafat was when he turned to terror. His greatest achievements were when he tried to build peace.

Israeli opposition leader Shimon Peres





(It is) good that the world is rid of him... The sun is shining in the Middle East.


Israeli Justice Minister Tommy Lapid





The death of Yasser Arafat is a significant moment in Palestinians' history. We express our condolences for the Palestinian people.

We hope that the future will bring peace and the fulfilment of the aspirations for an independent democratic Palestine that is at peace with its neighbours.

US President George W Bush





He led his people to an historic acceptance of the need for a two-state solution.

Peace in the Middle East must be the international community's highest priority: the goal of a viable Palestinian state alongside a secure Israel is one that we must continue to work tirelessly to achieve.

We will do whatever we can working with the US and EU to help the parties reach a fair and durable settlement.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair



The Palestinian people, despite their deep pain, will know how to overcome its sorrow and pursue its efforts to recover the rights of the Palestinian people and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

Jordanian King Abdullah II




With him disappears a man of courage and conviction who for 40 years incarnated the Palestinians' fight for recognition of their national rights.

France, like its partners in the European Union, will maintain, firmly and with conviction, its commitment to two states... living side by side in peace and security.

The road map, approved by Yasser Arafat, opens up that prospect.

[...] I came to bow before President Yasser Arafat and pay him a final homage.

France, of course, will continue to tirelessly act for peace and security in the Middle East and will do so with respect for the rights of the Palestinian and Israeli people.

French President Jacques Chirac




Yasser Arafat strove during his lifetime to lead the Palestinians to independence and establish a sovereign, viable Palestinian state.

It was not granted to Yasser Arafat to complete his life's work.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder



A great political leader of international significance.

Russian President Vladimir Putin



It is perhaps the most tragic aspect of President Arafat's death that he did not live to see the fruition of his ambition of a Palestinian state, despite the early promise which attended his election as president of the Palestinian Authority.

Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern




The people of Pakistan, and indeed the entire Muslim world, is in deep shock at the passing away of Mr Arafat, who tirelessly struggled throughout his life for the attainment of the rights of the Palestinian nation and for securing an independent state for them.

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf




The death of Yasser Arafat marks not only the departure of a great leader but also a turning point in the history of the Middle East.

Yasser Arafat will be forever remembered... by people from all parts of the world for his courage and determination against all odds in championing and protecting the inalienable rights of the people of Palestine.

Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi




He was the ultimate embodiment of decades of the just struggle of a nation for its undeniable rights to self- determination.

We share in this great loss and we fervently hope that it will translate into renewed momentum for the attainment of freedom, eternal peace and prosperity for the Palestinian people in their own country.

Indonesian foreign ministry spokesman Marty Natalegawa




An outstanding leader of the Palestinian cause and... an outstanding politician.

He was deeply respected and supported by the Palestinian people and enjoyed great prestige among the international community.

Chinese President Hu Jintao




I sincerely hope the Palestinians overcome their sorrow and continue with their effort toward achieving peace and prosperity in the region.

Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi




I think history will judge him very harshly for not having seized the opportunity in the year 2000 (at US-brokered peace talks) to embrace the offer that was very courageously made by the then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, that involved the Israelis agreeing to about 90% of what the Palestinians wanted.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard




I regret that in 2000 he missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being.

[I pray] for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for a state and a better life will be realised in a just and lasting peace.

Former US President Bill Clinton



Yasser Arafat was one of the outstanding freedom fighters of this generation, one who gave his entire life to the cause of the Palestinian people.

We honour his memory today.

Former South African President Nelson Mandela



The values and high virtues that Arafat embodied during his struggle for the Palestinian cause will inspire the Palestinian people so that they preserve their cohesion and unity and pursue their path to win back their national, legitimate and eternal rights.

Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali



May God in his pity receive the soul of [Arafat] and concede peace to the Holy Land, with two independent and sovereign states, wholly reconciled.

Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls
"It's a good start..."

--Fat Fucking Nobodies

OldJeff
11-12-2004, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant. [/b][/quote]
In contrast to Bush, who is both ignorant and dishonest

Mike AI
11-12-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by OldJeff+Nov 12 2004, 08:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Nov 12 2004, 08:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant.
In contrast to Bush, who is both ignorant and dishonest [/b][/quote]


Maybe so, but Bush won re-election!!

:lol: :lol:

Winetalk.com
11-12-2004, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 12 2004, 09:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 12 2004, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by OldJeff@Nov 12 2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant.
In contrast to Bush, who is both ignorant and dishonest


Maybe so, but Bush won re-election!!

:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
only because of flip floppers like you!

You were trained and beleived in being a lawyer and...
you flip flopped and became "internet developer" instead
;-)))

Mike AI
11-12-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 12 2004, 09:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 12 2004, 09:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 12 2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by OldJeff@Nov 12 2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant.
In contrast to Bush, who is both ignorant and dishonest


Maybe so, but Bush won re-election!!

:lol: :lol:
only because of flip floppers like you!

You were trained and beleived in being a lawyer and...
you flip flopped and became "internet developer" instead
;-))) [/b][/quote]


Oh no, I never wanted to be an attorney.... however after my getting my BA in International Studies/Economics I knew that my economic opportunities would be limited. I was also not ready for the real world. I had a nice life in college, with no responsibilities at all.... I was also pretty good at school. So I figured it would be best to continue.

I then look around and figured getting a JD would be more valueable and flexible then getting an MBA, or a masters in some liberal arts major....

I do wish I would have taken the duel JD/MBA program like Sig did.

After my first year in law school, I came to realize how much I hated attorneys.... not all attorneys, just trial lawyers like Edwards. You could see in the first year, which students were going to become abulance chasers - these are the people who are like pit bulls and attack anyone with deep pockets. They put a lot of friction and strain on the US economy.

Winetalk.com
11-12-2004, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 12 2004, 09:44 AM


After my first year in law school, I came to realize how much I hated attorneys.... not all attorneys, just trial lawyers like Edwards. You could see in the first year, which students were going to become abulance chasers - these are the people who are like pit bulls and attack anyone with deep pockets. They put a lot of friction and strain on the US economy.
hey, don 't even start me on the lawyers....I did something for what I beleive though...I took one out of circulation!
;-))))

Mike AI
11-12-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 12 2004, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 12 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 12 2004, 09:44 AM


After my first year in law school, I came to realize how much I hated attorneys.... not all attorneys, just trial lawyers like Edwards. You could see in the first year, which students were going to become abulance chasers - these are the people who are like pit bulls and attack anyone with deep pockets. They put a lot of friction and strain on the US economy.
hey, don 't even start me on the lawyers....I did something for what I beleive though...I took one out of circulation!
;-)))) [/b][/quote]


:lol:

Winetalk.com
11-12-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 12 2004, 10:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 12 2004, 10:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 12 2004, 10:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 12 2004, 09:44 AM


After my first year in law school, I came to realize how much I hated attorneys.... not all attorneys, just trial lawyers like Edwards. You could see in the first year, which students were going to become abulance chasers - these are the people who are like pit bulls and attack anyone with deep pockets. They put a lot of friction and strain on the US economy.
hey, don 't even start me on the lawyers....I did something for what I beleive though...I took one out of circulation!
;-))))


:lol: [/b][/quote]
come think of it...I did something to take 2!
(if you consider yourself one ;-)))

OldJeff
11-12-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 12 2004, 09:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 12 2004, 09:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by OldJeff@Nov 12 2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 11 2004, 09:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Nov 11 2004, 09:37 PM
Carter is WORSE than Chirac...because he is homegroewn!


Carter is worse then Chirac because he is a dope, he really beleives what he says. Where as Chirac just plays a posistion to protect and grow his wealth and power.

Carter is honest, just ignorant.
In contrast to Bush, who is both ignorant and dishonest


Maybe so, but Bush won re-election!!

:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
And that clearly demonstrates that Fear and Homophobia are alive and thriving in Americas Heartland.

Republican Party made the best move they possible could putting gay marraige on the ballots in so many states.

Got the preachers talking about it, political genius - worked way better than the Democrats approach which was "You are going to be drafted and Die"

Rest assured Mike I would be just as critical about Kerry had he won, it is my nature.

I will stop being critical of the president when the US elects an Athiest Libraterian, who has no problem with people practicing whatever religion they want, and has not been bought by one corporation or another.

Another words - never