MikeAI, Dan

[Winetalk.com]

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/47785163.html

will you two answer this ad?

[dantheman]

no, I'm a lover not a fighter, plus I think this guy is Gay and I wont fight a gay guy, they're always trying to grab your balls and pull your hair

: ))

[Winetalk.com]

Dan,
don't be a chicken
;_)

Scared of being whooped by gay?
;_)))

[Mike AI]

HAHAHA When liberals cannot win with ideas and persuasion they always want to get violent.

How many Bush/Cheney 04 offices were broken into and ransacked? I know of at least 5... I am sure there is more.

It's ok Serge, I will hold your hand through these tough times. You still have a lot of friends you left behind before you veered left....

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 02:45 PM
HAHAHA When liberals cannot win with ideas and persuasion they always want to get violent.

How many Bush/Cheney 04 offices were broken into and ransacked? I know of at least 5... I am sure there is more.

It's ok Serge, I will hold your hand through these tough times. You still have a lot of friends you left behind before you veered left....
you gonna hold my hand????????


what if somebody sees us and report us as "2 gays who are about to get married"?

they would burn our houses, Mike!

For safety's sake, may Katie hold my hand instead?
;-))))

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 02:45 PM
HAHAHA When liberals cannot win with ideas and persuasion they always want to get violent.

How many Bush/Cheney 04 offices were broken into and ransacked? I know of at least 5... I am sure there is more.

It's ok Serge, I will hold your hand through these tough times. You still have a lot of friends you left behind before you veered left....
Hmmmm ... how many liberal Timmy McVeighs can you name, Mike?

How many liberals have been convicted of killing abortion opponents, Mike?

How many liberals have been convicted of killing known advocates of race-mixing, Mike?

Are you really stupid enough to believe that either side has an advantage when it comes to crazy people or criminals?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Nov 10 2004, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Nov 10 2004, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 02:45 PM
HAHAHA When liberals cannot win with ideas and persuasion they always want to get violent.

How many Bush/Cheney 04 offices were broken into and ransacked? I know of at least 5... I am sure there is more.

It's ok Serge, I will hold your hand through these tough times. You still have a lot of friends you left behind before you veered left....
Hmmmm ... how many liberal Timmy McVeighs can you name, Mike?

How many liberals have been convicted of killing abortion opponents, Mike?

How many liberals have been convicted of killing known advocates of race-mixing, Mike?

Are you really stupid enough to believe that either side has an advantage when it comes to crazy people or criminals? [/b][/quote]


Liberals don't kill one or 2 people at a time, they kill en mass.

How many people have communists killed in USSR? China? Laos? N. Korea? They make the Nazis look like amateurs.

To say leftists groups have not been violent in US is ignorant as well.

McVeigh and others who break the law and murder should be punished like anyone else.

People on the fringes on both sides are dangerous.... The only arguement that you and the other liberals on Oprano can make is that I am on same page as Ashcroft, McVeigh, and other kooks.

Ad Hominum attacks are boring..... You guys can do better!!

[Mike AI]

Serge, I will hold your hand. I am comfortable with my sexuality, and I certainly do not harbour any ill will for homosexuals. What people do in their private lives, as long as its between consenting adults, its their business.

But their is a difference between trying to force gay marriage down peoples throats.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:03 PM


But their is a difference between trying to force gay marriage down peoples throats.
Mike, I dunno what you are talking about...have any gay tried force anything down YOUR throat?

;-)))

I need some clarification on this one
;-))))

[PornoDoggy]

You are right ... I think you are a lot closer to Ashcroft, McVeigh, the Florida Conservative Union, and other kooks than you feel comfortable admitting.

If you are really making the argument that my liberalism somehow equates to Lennin/Trotsky/Stalin/Mao-style communism, then you prove it.

I did not say that leftists are never violent, nor did I say that the American left has never committed acts of violence. However, an objective look at American history over the last 20 years will show far more violent activities on the part of the right than the left.

You left off, by the way, the more relevant activities of the punks at WTO meetings ... of course, you're too stuck in the mental midget rut of equating liberalism with communism to think of that.

[Mike AI]

I have been hit on before, but its been at gay clubs... Are you jealous Serge?


Hey PD, since you want to point out specific wackos, I just happened to read this on Drudge - I am sure if I looked I could find just as many liberal murderers and criminals

HIGH SCHOOL ATTACK: KERRY TAUNTS TIED TO FIGHT
Wed Nov 10 2004 09:55:52 ET

Three high school students face charges for using a bat to beat another student who taunted them about being John Kerry supporters days after the contentious election.

The 17-year-old Apple Valley victim was assaulted Thursday in a Minnesota Zoo parking lot near Apple Valley's School of Environmental Studies, better known as the zoo school. Chad McKay, also 17, stood over the victim attempting to protect him.

"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."

The SAINT PAUL PIONEER PRESS reported in morning editions: The argument began earlier in the day Thursday with a discussion about candidates the minors had supported for president, Backstrom said. The two victims supported President Bush.

"We were sitting in the computer room at school, and there was kind of a political debate," said Chad McKay of Arden Hills. "Some people said only gay people vote for Bush." Chad said the victim said "only gay people would vote for Kerry because he supports gay marriage."

Backstrom said the victims then "called the other guys some names."

Chad said later in the afternoon when he and the victim were walking to their cars they heard their three senior classmates yelling at them, according to the police report.

Chad got to his car, but the three 17-year-olds attacked the victim, he said, hitting him in face, including with a baseball bat and kicking him. One boy had a padlock wrapped around his finger, Chad said.

Developing...

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:03 PM
Serge, I will hold your hand. I am comfortable with my sexuality, and I certainly do not harbour any ill will for homosexuals. What people do in their private lives, as long as its between consenting adults, its their business.

But their is a difference between trying to force gay marriage down peoples throats.
Uhhhh .... where is anyone being forced into a gay marriage?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 10 2004, 03:09 PM
You are right ... I think you are a lot closer to Ashcroft, McVeigh, the Florida Conservative Union, and other kooks than you feel comfortable admitting.

If you are really making the argument that my liberalism somehow equates to Lennin/Trotsky/Stalin/Mao-style communism, then you prove it.

I did not say that leftists are never violent, nor did I say that the American left has never committed acts of violence. However, an objective look at American history over the last 20 years will show far more violent activities on the part of the right than the left.

You left off, by the way, the more relevant activities of the punks at WTO meetings ... of course, you're too stuck in the mental midget rut of equating liberalism with communism to think of that.
Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.

Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:09 PM
I have been hit on before, but its been at gay clubs... Are you jealous Serge?


Hey PD, since you want to point out specific wackos, I just happened to read this on Drudge - I am sure if I looked I could find just as many liberal murderers and criminals

HIGH SCHOOL ATTACK: KERRY TAUNTS TIED TO FIGHT
Wed Nov 10 2004 09:55:52 ET

Three high school students face charges for using a bat to beat another student who taunted them about being John Kerry supporters days after the contentious election.

The 17-year-old Apple Valley victim was assaulted Thursday in a Minnesota Zoo parking lot near Apple Valley's School of Environmental Studies, better known as the zoo school. Chad McKay, also 17, stood over the victim attempting to protect him.

"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."

The SAINT PAUL PIONEER PRESS reported in morning editions: The argument began earlier in the day Thursday with a discussion about candidates the minors had supported for president, Backstrom said. The two victims supported President Bush.

"We were sitting in the computer room at school, and there was kind of a political debate," said Chad McKay of Arden Hills. "Some people said only gay people vote for Bush." Chad said the victim said "only gay people would vote for Kerry because he supports gay marriage."

Backstrom said the victims then "called the other guys some names."

Chad said later in the afternoon when he and the victim were walking to their cars they heard their three senior classmates yelling at them, according to the police report.

Chad got to his car, but the three 17-year-olds attacked the victim, he said, hitting him in face, including with a baseball bat and kicking him. One boy had a padlock wrapped around his finger, Chad said.

Developing...


So let me see if I got this straight ...

You are offering as "proof" that leftists are violent the fact that three high school idiots, engaged in some sort of Buff-style argument (tossing the gay thing around), beat up another kid.

I suspect you are a very happy person, Mike. Downright blissful, I'll bet.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:09 PM
I have been hit on before, but its been at gay clubs... Are you jealous Serge?



sorry, but I will NOT ask you WTF were you doing in gay clubs??????

None of my business, I am sure it was
1) before you got married
2) you were NOT looking for a bride
;-))))

[dantheman]

I think this is a good time for a big 'ol family hug

: ))))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:12 PM

Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.

Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
hmmm...I happen to know more about leaders and countries who...supported Hitler.

What does THAT prove?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by dantheman@Nov 10 2004, 03:17 PM
I think this is a good time for a big 'ol family hug

: ))))
yeah...and YOU leave YOUR gun at home!
;_)))

[Mike AI]

PD my life is wonderful.... I have been blessed.

Serge, sounds to me like your getting jealous....

Don't worry, if I ever go to bat for the other team, you and Lee would be first people I let know!

:agrin:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:18 PM
PD my life is wonderful.... I have been blessed.

Serge, sounds to me like your getting jealous....

Don't worry, if I ever go to bat for the other team, you and Lee would be first people I let know!

:agrin:
why would I get jelous????

We, the non conservative orthodoxes,
beleive it's enough for EVERYBODY
;-)

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:12 PM
Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.

Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
There have been (and probably still are) leftists who supported the Soviet Union.

There have been (and probably still are) right-wingers who supported Nazism.

Not all conservatives support Nazism. Not all liberals support communism.

You have to remember that the Communists have probably killed off more liberals than Nazis and Facists combined, going back to the Russian Revolution. They, at least, are smart enough to understand that there is a significant difference between conventional Western liberalism and any form of Marxism.

I realize that may be hard for you to understand ... it does make the world much more complicated.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Nov 10 2004, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Nov 10 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 10 2004, 03:12 PM
Modern liberalism has direct connections with socialism/communism.

Through out history the left in the US supported Lenin/Stalin, and other communist regimes. There were many leaders in the left who acively supported and excused socialist regimes - especially in the USSR.
There have been (and probably still are) leftists who supported the Soviet Union.

There have been (and probably still are) right-wingers who supported Nazism.

Not all conservatives support Nazism. Not all liberals support communism.

You have to remember that the Communists have probably killed off more liberals than Nazis and Facists combined, going back to the Russian Revolution. They, at least, are smart enough to understand that there is a significant difference between conventional Western liberalism and any form of Marxism.

I realize that may be hard for you to understand ... it does make the world much more complicated. [/b][/quote]


PD thanks for making my points for me....

This is getting fun.