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11-06-2004, 05:14 PM
has a deep origin in your sources of information.
Have you ever concidred stop reading OPBW
(Other People Brain Wash)
and just THINK on your own?



Liberal Activist Judges Must be Stopped!!
From dKosopedia, the free political encyclopedia.

Status
In use by seemingly every Republican politician, journalist and talk show pundit in the country.


Origins
Decisions such as Roe vs. Wade, and more recently, Lawrence vs. Texas and Goodridge vs. Dept. of Public Health have led to the constant regurgitation of the idea that liberal, activist judges are trying to impose their outrageous ideas on an unwilling populace. Therefore, voters must support Republicans because Republicans will stop these judges from force their beliefs on the public.


Talking Points
The most liberal state in America, the state of Ted Kennedy, is trying to force people to destroy marriage!

We have to stop judicial activism. You don't have a problem with THIS law...but what about the next one? When does this stop? If we don't pass the Federal Marriage Amendment, judges will force Alabama and South Dakota and other moral states to accept same-sex marriage! If we don't pass the Let's Stop Liberal Judges Amendment, your very existence is under attack!


Sightings
Plans to rein in activist judges

Tyranny of Activist Judges


Rebuttals
- If Republicans and conservatives are so concerned about activist judges, why are many of Bush's nominees extremely outspoken in their contempt for current laws, to the point where some, such as Bill Pryor[1], have filed briefs calling for the removal of everything from the Americans with Disabilities Act to the Clean Water Act? Why are so many Republicans desperate to defend Roy Moore, who put his own personal feelings above state and federal law in the 10 Commandments case? Why are so many activists desperate to appoint Supreme Court justices for the sole purpose of overturning Roe vs. Wade?

- If we're going to blame a party for the scourge of liberal activist judges, why shouldn't we blame the Republicans? 6 out of the 7 judges on the Massachusetts Supreme Court were appointed by Republican governors. Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, and David Souter, all appointed by George HW Bush or conservative hero Ronald Reagan, have routinely upheld abortion laws, and all voted in the majority on Lawrence vs. Texas.

- How does President Bush simultaneously praise[2] activist judges on Brown vs. Board of Education while condemning them for Goodridge vs. Dept. of Public Health? Is judicial activism only laudable when he says so? How do Republicans feel about the legalization of birth control and interracial marriage? Do they give those a pass like they do with Brown vs. Education? Did he condemn them when their 5-4 vote got him into the White House?


Analysis
While nothing will stop Republican politicians from using this for their own selfish ends, the further education of voters on the hypocrisy of the GOP and on the Republican justices who have been behind some of the most controversial civil rights legislation in the past 50 years will render this argument as hollow as many of their other memes about liberals, taxes, and the war on terra.

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 06:02 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

thanks!!

:bdance: :bjump: :purpdance:

sarettah
11-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 06:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

1 day after it is joy
2 days after, still joy
3 days after Joy is wearing out Gloating starts to set in
4 days and beyond is all pure gloating



:yowsa:

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by sarettah+Nov 6 2004, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Nov 6 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 06:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

1 day after it is joy
2 days after, still joy
3 days after Joy is wearing out Gloating starts to set in
4 days and beyond is all pure gloating



:yowsa: [/b][/quote]


Nah, my joy will continue as people like Serge continue to get unhinged.

Though it is getting boring. We have new things to discuss. One thing I am wonddering is how the mainstream media is giving Arafat a pass? When he dies I bet they hail him as a hero, not as a terrorist - murderer.

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 06:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

thanks!!

:bdance: :bjump: :purpdance:
sure, sure,
this si so gay...but you are in a good company,
the more they fight the crime the more they are guilty of it themselves
;-))

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...dgar+hoover+gay (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&ie=UTF-8&q=j+edgar+hoover+gay)

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 07:54 PM


Nah, my joy will continue as people like Serge continue to get unhinged.


Mike,
I do MORE research what attacts you in the Republican party of today and I get some ideas...
you just wanna use Christ's name in context Nixon did...talking about one of your heroes:
"Evidence of physical intimacy is merely circumstantial, although suspicions about J. Edgar and Clyde ran rampant through Washington political circles. Richard Nixon's obscene comment upon hearing of Hoover's death ("Jesus Christ, that old cocksucker!")

http://archive.salon.com/health/sex/urge//...0/01/05/hoover/ (http://archive.salon.com/health/sex/urge//world/2000/01/05/hoover/)

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 08:03 PM
Salon?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 08:04 PM
Salon?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I am sorry....here is Crime Library
;-)

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outl.../6.html?sect=26 (http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/hoover/6.html?sect=26)

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 08:15 PM
Serge you may want to move soon.... Because this country is overhwleming God fearing.... Sorry.

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 08:16 PM
Serge you may want to move soon.... Because this country is overhwleming God fearing.... Sorry.
only in the South,
the mostly educated part of the land.

No Bible trumpers where I live,
no wonder you have chosen Tampa and not South Florida
;-))

BTW, so you know,
tomorrow and EVERY Sunday Oprano will be closed 'till 1 pm Eastern,
so you and the rest of God fearing Opranoids could go to Church.

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 09:09 PM
God bless you Serge!!

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 09:10 PM
God bless you Serge!!
please keep Allah out of it!

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 09:17 PM
Serge is crying my Lord,
Kumbayaaa
Serge is crying my Lord,
Kumbaya


:D

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 09:18 PM
Serge is crying my Lord,
Kumbayaaa
Serge is crying my Lord,
Kumbaya


:D
don't trumpet me, save some energy for the church tomorrow!

grimm
11-06-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 03:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

thanks!!

:bdance: :bjump: :purpdance:
i just vomited in my own mouth


:barfon:

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by grimm+Nov 6 2004, 10:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Nov 6 2004, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 03:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

thanks!!

:bdance: :bjump: :purpdance:
i just vomited in my own mouth


:barfon: [/b][/quote]
weren't you having dinner together today?
;_))

grimm
11-06-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 05:16 PM
Serge you may want to move soon.... Because this country is overhwleming God fearing.... Sorry.
wrong, our administration is god fearing. I have no fear of god, just respect

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 10:25 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...id=518&ncid=716 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041107/ap_on_re_eu/europe_s_islamic_challenge&cid=518&ncid=716)

Europe might not be a good place for you Serge, the "religion of peace" is growing fast.

Mike AI
11-06-2004, 10:27 PM
Off to celebrate at Galitiore's.....

YUM YUM!!

Grimm, glad your home state helped Bush out!!

grimm
11-06-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 6 2004, 07:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 6 2004, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Nov 6 2004, 10:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 03:03 PM
Serge you keep extending my joy of victory....

thanks!!

:bdance: :bjump: :purpdance:
i just vomited in my own mouth


:barfon:
weren't you having dinner together today?
;_)) [/b][/quote]
was not able to make it. and i never hear this rhetoric in person. our dinner coversations are light:) full of business and friendship

grimm
11-06-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 07:28 PM
Off to celebrate at Galitiore's.....

YUM YUM!!

Grimm, glad your home state helped Bush out!!
as a general rule, ohioans are sheep, glad the herd could help:)

Winetalk.com
11-06-2004, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 6 2004, 10:26 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...id=518&ncid=716 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041107/ap_on_re_eu/europe_s_islamic_challenge&cid=518&ncid=716)

Europe might not be a good place for you Serge, the "religion of peace" is growing fast.
sure, sure....
have you ever been to Amsterdam or do you only travel to 5 stars hotel in 3rd world countries?