Is Kerry going to be man enough to concede? [Archive]

SykkBoy

11-03-2004, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 3 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 3 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slavdogg@Nov 3 2004, 12:44 AM
he will flip flop

Exactly.

I hope he has enough class and respect for the Country to do the right thing. But I doubt he will. I think he will go the route of Gore. [/b][/quote]
do you honestly think Bush would concede if it were reversed?
give me a break

both sides have lawyers at the ready....

slavdogg

11-03-2004, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 3 2004, 12:52 AM
Hey Grogan ... what happened to Bush carrying Illinois?
dead people voted in a 20 to 1 margin :)

even Alan Keys lost to some habib, i liked that guy..

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by slavdogg+Nov 3 2004, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Nov 3 2004, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Nov 3 2004, 12:52 AM
Hey Grogan ... what happened to Bush carrying Illinois?
dead people voted in a 20 to 1 margin :)

even Alan Keys lost to some habib, i liked that guy.. [/b][/quote]
Alen Keys is a great speake, and certainly is not politically correct. I like him too, but some of his ideas are a little out there.

pushpills

11-03-2004, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 2 2004, 11:52 PM
Hey Grogan ... what happened to Bush carrying Illinois?
I was thinking this a while ago actually.

Looked at the polls more closely, looked like a blowout for kerry.

Poor folk on south side of chicago were more "jazzed" to vote.

Never the less, illinois aint gonna be close. My vote is not needed.

I'll admit it, my initial prediction on illinois was wrong.

I'm frequently right and more frequently right on "bigger scope", like who will win presidency.

Like I told my girlfriend and grandma, the point is, statistics prove me to be very frequently right when going on my OWN thoughts, not poll stats.

I did not base my illinois predictions on stats and more negro youth and slum dwellers from south side voted.

*KK*

11-03-2004, 01:08 AM

Kerry should concede at the same point in his campaign that W did in his during the last election.

PornoDoggy

11-03-2004, 01:13 AM

My dog has a 50/50 chance of being right on a multiple choice question with two options, boy ...

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 01:18 AM

:lol: :lol:

Send in the lawyers.....

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 02:02 AM

Oh, let's just all declare civil war already. :kapow: :shooter:

(Btw, how can this board be off by a half an hour?)

gonzo

11-03-2004, 02:21 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:03 AM
Oh, let's just all declare civil war already. :kapow: :shooter:

(Btw, how can this board be off by a half an hour?)
Dos Tip....

Last one aint over. We are reloading!

XXXPhoto

11-03-2004, 02:28 AM

Nice dodge Mike, answer the question...

Would Bush concede if situations were reversed?

More importantly, would you be whining about it if he didn't?

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Nov 3 2004, 02:29 AM
Nice dodge Mike, answer the question...

Would Bush concede if situations were reversed?

More importantly, would you be whining about it if he didn't?

You mean like Nixon did?

In same shoes, I would think Bush would concede. It might not be first reaction, which is fight - but all evidence points to Bush winning.

Bush will be first President Candidate since 1988 to get a true majority. Even Clinton did not get that.

XXXPhoto

11-03-2004, 02:40 AM

Well I think you are mistaken and Bush wouldn't.

Pity ya didn't answer the other question about if you'd want him to do it...
Not answering kinda makes it seem that you have double standards don't you think?

pushpills

11-03-2004, 02:47 AM

Bush would not concede either.

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 02:56 AM

Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.

Sheesh, nothing worse than a sore winner! :burn:

Hell Puppy

11-03-2004, 02:58 AM

It depends on the margins. In 2000 there were like 4-5 states where margin of victory was under .5%. That's worthy of a recount and waiting a few days on the absentee ballots, etc. However, when that didn't work out, things got out of control in Florida with the Democrats wanting to change how the ballots were counted with the hanging chads, etc.

Alot of lessons were learned in 2000, most states have well defined processes for all of this now and definitions of what exactly constitutes a vote in the event of the old style punch cards with chads, etc. Ohio is one such state by the way.

In this case, it looks like there isn't going to be a state that is THAT close. The election is close enough to warrant waiting til tomorrow I think. Re-eveluate things like absentee ballots outstanding, etc at that point and see where it stands. But if there's 2% margin of victory in a state the size of Ohio, that's 100,000+ vote margin.

It's bullshit to contest an election just because you do not like the results or to try to legally manipulate the process. The powers that be in the DNC are so partisan though, I fear that is exactly what'll happen. If nothing else it strings along the Meni's and Michael Moores of the world who are convinced Bush was never elected.

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 02:58 AM

Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Nov 3 2004, 02:41 AM
Well I think you are mistaken and Bush wouldn't.

Pity ya didn't answer the other question about if you'd want him to do it...
Not answering kinda makes it seem that you have double standards don't you think?
Honestly, I did not see that question. I have been celebrating....

If all the evidence was leaning towards Kerry like it is Bush, I would accept it. I think it is more important to move forward, and not have our election process turned into an ongoing lawsuit.

Bush won MAJORITY of popular vote, he will win electorial college, republicans added seats to Senate, and House AND he is sitting President. ( that and the reality is that Renquist will live long enough to give another 5-4 rule if need be)

Bush has won. Like I said 4 years ago - DEAL WITH IT.

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:57 AM
Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.

Sheesh, nothing worse than a sore winner! :burn:

Awwwwww want to hold hands?? We can be friends.

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 3 2004, 03:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 3 2004, 03:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:57 AM
Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.

Sheesh, nothing worse than a sore winner! :burn:

Awwwwww want to hold hands?? We can be friends. [/b][/quote]
Sure! Let's lick each other's nuts! You first. :awinky:

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk+Nov 3 2004, 03:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Nov 3 2004, 03:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:02 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:57 AM
Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.

Sheesh, nothing worse than a sore winner! :burn:

Awwwwww want to hold hands?? We can be friends.
Sure! Let's lick each other's nuts! You first. :P [/b][/quote]

It's common knowledge you don't have any....

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:06 AM

imagine the situation was reversed, and it was George Bush who was down 3 million votes in the popular count, and almost 200,000 in Ohio. Do you think the assembled network braintrust would be so considerate and courtly about a Bush campaign fight in Ohio as they're being about Kerry's?

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:04 AM
Sure! Let's lick each other's nuts! You first. :P

It's common knowledge you don't have any.... [/quote]
Just goes to show your knowledge is as common as it is inaccurate. :)

Then again, anyone who thinks Bush is the better man lives in a fantasy world already. So, enjoy, buddy! I won't ruin your delusions. :)

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 03:08 AM
Sure! Let's lick each other's nuts! You first. :P

It's common knowledge you don't have any....
Just goes to show your knowledge is as common as it is inaccurate. :)

Then again, anyone who thinks Bush is the better man lives in a fantasy world already. So, enjoy, buddy! I won't ruin your delusions. :) [/quote]

HAHA My candidate won.... that is reality, not fantasy.

:nyanya:

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:10 AM
HAHA My candidate won.... that is reality, not fantasy.

:nyanya:
On the bright side, it would have been four very dull years of "The Daily Show" with Kerry. :lol:

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk+Nov 3 2004, 03:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Nov 3 2004, 03:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:10 AM
HAHA My candidate won.... that is reality, not fantasy.

:nyanya:
On the bright side, it would have been four very dull years of "The Daily Show" with Kerry. :lol: [/b][/quote]

Yeah Kerry is a regular statesman who never does anything stupid. Come on Kerry said as many stupid things as Bush ever did.

The whole I voted for it before voting against it KILLED Kerry.... IT was in tons of ads, in the debates, etc... etc....

Dravyk

11-03-2004, 03:20 AM

But Bush and crew do it WHILE they run the government! And no, there's no funnier political fodder than Dubya. Sorry about that, but it's true.

As for Kerry ... stupidest campaign people I ever did see. They made more mistakes that an alderman running in a hick town.

slavdogg

11-03-2004, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:57 AM
Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.
i'll take that any day over his mainstream biz gloating :)

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by slavdogg+Nov 3 2004, 03:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Nov 3 2004, 03:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Dravyk@Nov 3 2004, 02:57 AM
Four more years of Mike gloating is almost as bad as four more years of Bush. Almost.
i'll take that any day over his mainstream biz gloating :) [/b][/quote]

The ironic thing is I have about as much claim to Bush's success as my mainstream.....

:D

Slav I thought for sure you would be pulling for me....

SykkBoy

11-03-2004, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:10 AM
Sure! Let's lick each other's nuts! You first. :P

It's common knowledge you don't have any....
Just goes to show your knowledge is as common as it is inaccurate. :)

Then again, anyone who thinks Bush is the better man lives in a fantasy world already. So, enjoy, buddy! I won't ruin your delusions. :)

HAHA My candidate won.... that is reality, not fantasy.

:nyanya: [/quote]
what can I say
all of my local candidates and initiatives I voted for won...so I was on the wrong side with Kerry nationally and Gallagher locally....

Gallagher got hurt by local smears that worked...people who bitch about dirty politics just encourage it more by voting for the guy who plays the dirtiest...

At least we get 6 more years of Harry Reid and more cops on the streets and a raise in the minimum wage in Nevada. We also get trial lawyers reigned in a bit on medical malpractice suits (maybe we can bring back some of the good doctors we lost because of increasing malpractice insurance...but sadly, we still have to deal with those stupid fucking cunts at the insurance companies...)

Sorry, I've always maintained local voting is more important than national voting...

slavdogg

11-03-2004, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:31 AM
Slav I thought for sure you would be pulling for me....
i was a small part of your mainstream success, how can i not be pulling for you :)
but i would still take your your political opinions over your mainstream gloating anyday

chodadog

11-03-2004, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 2 2004, 10:19 PM
:lol: :lol:

Send in the lawyers.....
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/...main/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/election.main/index.html)

Mike AI

11-03-2004, 03:01 PM

I give Kerry credit for doing the right thing!

:okthumb:

Almighty Colin

11-03-2004, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 3 2004, 03:02 PM
I give Kerry credit for doing the right thing!

:okthumb:
He went out strong. Very statesman-like.

wig

11-03-2004, 07:07 PM

I was impressed. I hope it was genuine and not strategy for the next political move he makes.

grimm

11-04-2004, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by Mike AI@Nov 2 2004, 09:37 PM
Or will be pull a Gore?
and you got your answer

Mike AI

11-04-2004, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by grimm+Nov 4 2004, 02:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Nov 4 2004, 02:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 2 2004, 09:37 PM
Or will be pull a Gore?
and you got your answer [/b][/quote]

Grimm, thanks for working so hard for Bush to help carry Ohio!!!

Go Buckeyes!!

:wnw:

grimm

11-04-2004, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Mike AI+Nov 4 2004, 07:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Nov 4 2004, 07:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by grimm@Nov 4 2004, 02:53 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Nov 2 2004, 09:37 PM
Or will be pull a Gore?
and you got your answer

Grimm, thanks for working so hard for Bush to help carry Ohio!!!

Go Buckeyes!!

:wnw: [/b][/quote]
hahaha! anything i can do to help:)

Go Bucks!:)

:rokk:

grimm

11-04-2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by slavdogg+Nov 2 2004, 09:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Nov 2 2004, 09:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Nov 3 2004, 12:52 AM
Hey Grogan ... what happened to Bush carrying Illinois?
dead people voted in a 20 to 1 margin :)

even Alan Keys lost to some habib, i liked that guy.. [/b][/quote]
you LIKE alan keyes? he would have voted against emancipation:) nothing like a fundamentalist right wing black guy.

wonder if he is looking over his shoulder at every fundamentalist christian rally he attends?

And that "habib" is a bright young guy, very conservative.