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Mike AI
10-07-2004, 08:00 PM
I hope Bush comes out with some more energy.

It is amazing the race is even this close with all the negative news about Iraq and WMDs coming out.

Maybe American's understand that Bush made his decision based on info he had at the time. Hind sight is definately 20/20

Mike AI
10-07-2004, 08:48 PM
I am an idiot - I thought debate was tonight.

:blink:

Winetalk.com
10-07-2004, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 7 2004, 07:49 PM
I am an idiot
do you mind if I attach poll to this thread?
;-)))

Winetalk.com
10-07-2004, 08:52 PM
Mike,
Bush have chosen Friday nite for a debate for a reason...less people will be watching it
;-)))

Buff
10-07-2004, 09:06 PM
http://uploads.ungrounded.net/195000/195602_debate1.swf

Mike AI
10-07-2004, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 7 2004, 07:53 PM
Mike,
Bush have chosen Friday nite for a debate for a reason...less people will be watching it
;-)))
HAHA I thought the same thing!!

NickPapageorgio
10-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Nah he won't choke...





































...unless ofcourse they are serving pretzels. :yowsa: I can only hope they will be. :matey:

pushpills
10-07-2004, 10:37 PM
the candidates dressed up as fox news anchors tonight.

RawAlex
10-07-2004, 11:18 PM
Okay, since I was 100% on my prediction last time, let me make another one for this debate:

Bush, seeing that he got his ass handed to him last time because he wasn't agressive enough will come out on the attack, and in doing so, will step in a big pile of shit.

Look for a major blunder in this debate.

Alex

corvett
10-08-2004, 12:11 AM
bush has the friday happy hour advantage ;)

Evil Chris
10-08-2004, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by RawAlex@Oct 7 2004, 11:19 PM
Okay, since I was 100% on my prediction last time, let me make another one for this debate:

Bush, seeing that he got his ass handed to him last time because he wasn't agressive enough will come out on the attack, and in doing so, will step in a big pile of shit.

Look for a major blunder in this debate.

Alex
and Kerry will be expecting it as well.

They did foreign policy, what's the main topic tonight?
Jobs? The economy? LOL

Kerry is the rifle and Bush is the fish in the barrell.

XXXPhoto
10-08-2004, 05:21 PM
Domestic affairs type questions with some foreign policy tossed in too far as I have read... Town hall Q/A format but guessing questions won't be outta the blue...

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by RawAlex@Oct 7 2004, 10:19 PM
Okay, since I was 100% on my prediction last time, let me make another one for this debate:

Bush, seeing that he got his ass handed to him last time because he wasn't agressive enough will come out on the attack, and in doing so, will step in a big pile of shit.

Look for a major blunder in this debate.

Alex


Bush missed some great opportunities to slam Kerry last debate.
I blame his handlers for telling him to be nice, courting the female vote.

If he presses to hard, he could very well make a huge blunder.

Hopefully he was inspired by Cheney.

My German Shepard could have did better against kerry last debate.

When Kerry quoted his father's book, Bush could have closed out the debate and probably the race with a few good lines.

Oh well....

XXXPhoto
10-08-2004, 05:42 PM
Yup Mike... can just hear some of Bush's book quotes now...

"I will hunt terroists on a train,
I will hunt them in the rain.
I will hunt them in a box,
I will hunt them with a fox."

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Oct 8 2004, 04:43 PM
Yup Mike... can just hear some of Bush's book quotes now...

"I will hunt terroists on a train,
I will hunt them in the rain.
I will hunt them in a box,
I will hunt them with a fox."


HAHA I would like that.

Or do the " a sphicter says what"

Anything like this would be a hit in my book!!

:yowsa:

Buff
10-08-2004, 08:57 PM
Obviously, Bush is better prepared. But he's still mostly on the defensive.

LadyLaw
10-08-2004, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Oct 8 2004, 05:43 PM
Yup Mike... can just hear some of Bush's book quotes now...

"I will hunt terroists on a train,
I will hunt them in the rain.
I will hunt them in a box,
I will hunt them with a fox."
hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!

Good one...thank you XXXPhoto!
:D

slavdogg
10-08-2004, 09:45 PM
need some wood ? :lol:

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 10:09 PM
Close, but I think Bush won - he was better with jokes, making people laugh which matters in debates.

I am happy Bush came out strong.

The moderator is a tool - he was trying to steal the show.

Buff
10-08-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 08:10 PM
Close, but I think Bush won - he was better with jokes, making people laugh which matters in debates.

I am happy Bush came out strong.

The moderator is a tool - he was trying to steal the show.
I think Bush won easily.

slavdogg
10-08-2004, 10:15 PM
yup Bush did a great job :okthumb:

Winetalk.com
10-08-2004, 10:18 PM
Bush won?

yeah,
he won my heart with his ban on Canadien drugs and the reason he gave for it-
"to make sure that those drugs cure Americans and don't kill them!"

1) how the fuck Canadiens don't die from those drugs?

2) Those are the same drugs manufactured in...USA.

Merck's vioxx kills, made in USA.

And I am pro choice, pro stem cell research and I don't need wood
;-)))

Winetalk.com
10-08-2004, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by slavdogg@Oct 8 2004, 09:16 PM
yup Bush did a great job :okthumb:
of making fool of himself.

Winetalk.com
10-08-2004, 10:21 PM
Another Bush's snaffu when asked about future Supreme Court nomenee..

"I wouldn't apoint judge who decided that pledge of alegence is in appropriate in school because of "one nation under God".

Does he know that USA Constitution separate Church and State??
He wouldn't apoint judge who supports US Constitution?????

Sharpie
10-08-2004, 10:21 PM
They both did a good job - the winner is in the ear of the beholder.........

I just like ones answers better than the other.

Winetalk.com
10-08-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Sharpie@Oct 8 2004, 09:22 PM
They both did a good job - the winner is in the ear of the beholder.........

I just like ones answers better than the other.
yes, and I have my congratulations ready...

http://www.bongmadness.com/pics/congratulations.jpg

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 8 2004, 09:22 PM
Another Bush's snaffu when asked about future Supreme Court nomenee..

"I wouldn't apoint judge who decided that pledge of alegence is in appropriate in school because of "one nation under God".

Does he know that USA Constitution separate Church and State??
He wouldn't apoint judge who supports US Constitution?????


Serge you may want to go back and study American History.

Seperation of Church and State was intended to prevent the country from having an 'official" religion, it was NEVER intended to keep God ( or any diety of yoru choice) out of life completely.

The majority of our Founding Father's were very relgious people. The USA is a Jeduo-Christian Nation.

You must be confusing Lenin and George Washington again....

Winetalk.com
10-08-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Oct 8 2004, 09:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Oct 8 2004, 09:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Oct 8 2004, 09:22 PM
Another Bush's snaffu when asked about future Supreme Court nomenee..

"I wouldn't apoint judge who decided that pledge of alegence is in appropriate in school because of "one nation under God".

Does he know that USA Constitution separate Church and State??
He wouldn't apoint judge who supports US Constitution?????


Serge you may want to go back and study American History.

Seperation of Church and State was intended to prevent the country from having an 'official" religion, it was NEVER intended to keep God ( or any diety of yoru choice) out of life completely.

The majority of our Founding Father's were very relgious people. The USA is a Jeduo-Christian Nation.

You must be confusing Lenin and George Washington again.... [/b][/quote]
Mike,
Our religious fathers wrote the constitution and provisions to separate Church and State, not Church and every day's life NOT related to government activities..

Do you recall judge in Alabama who wanted to have 10 commandments statue on GOVERNMENT property?

WHY was he told to remove it if you are right and I am wrong?

do you know the answer or should I shout?

VooMan
10-08-2004, 10:34 PM
I agree that Bush did better tonight than he did in the first debate, but only in the fact that he didn't stumble over his words so badly. He seemed to me to be on the defensive. While some reported him as being more animated or passionate, I found him to be very defensive on just about everything. Seemed like he was almost yelling at some of the people who asked questions...

I am no fan of Kerry, but he is in no uncertain terms a much better debater than Bush. He carries himself well, speaks eloquently, and stays more calm and in control. He also tells the average Joe American exactly what he wants to hear. Tax the rich, better schools, better health care, blah blah blah blah blah...

Usually the challenger has to knock out the champ in order to win. I don't know if that's the case in this election...

My two cents on the issue... LOL

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 8 2004, 09:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 8 2004, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 09:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Oct 8 2004, 09:22 PM
Another Bush's snaffu when asked about future Supreme Court nomenee..

"I wouldn't apoint judge who decided that pledge of alegence is in appropriate in school because of "one nation under God".

Does he know that USA Constitution separate Church and State??
He wouldn't apoint judge who supports US Constitution?????


Serge you may want to go back and study American History.

Seperation of Church and State was intended to prevent the country from having an 'official" religion, it was NEVER intended to keep God ( or any diety of yoru choice) out of life completely.

The majority of our Founding Father's were very relgious people. The USA is a Jeduo-Christian Nation.

You must be confusing Lenin and George Washington again....
Mike,
Our religious fathers wrote the constitution and provisions to separate Church and State, not Church and every day's life NOT related to government activities..

Do you recall judge in Alabama who wanted to have 10 commandments statue on GOVERNMENT property?

WHY was he told to remove it if you are right and I am wrong?

do you know the answer or should I shout? [/b][/quote]


I understand that Serge. But there is a subtle distinction between SEPERATING Church and State, and complety banning the idea of God through out all aspects of life. Especially in a time where Gov't intrudes on all aspects of life...

The Founding Father's did not want an "official State religion" like there was in England and most of the world at the time. They did not want to ban religion and God from everyday life....



Why does the Supreme Court building in Washington DC have the 10 Commandments on it?

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by VooMan@Oct 8 2004, 09:35 PM
I agree that Bush did better tonight than he did in the first debate, but only in the fact that he didn't stumble over his words so badly. He seemed to me to be on the defensive. While some reported him as being more animated or passionate, I found him to be very defensive on just about everything. Seemed like he was almost yelling at some of the people who asked questions...

I am no fan of Kerry, but he is in no uncertain terms a much better debater than Bush. He carries himself well, speaks eloquently, and stays more calm and in control. He also tells the average Joe American exactly what he wants to hear. Tax the rich, better schools, better health care, blah blah blah blah blah...

Usually the challenger has to knock out the champ in order to win. I don't know if that's the case in this election...

My two cents on the issue... LOL


I wish Bush would have pointed out Kerry is using class warfare to try and win votes.

He did finally use the L word. I think that was important....

American's do not like liberals.... that is why Kerry has to pretend to be Conservative or moderate. Of course a quick glance at his record shows the truth.

If Kerry wins our only hope is Repubicans can keep Congress. ( I actually prefer power to be split - gridlock is good - prevents politicians from running amok)

VooMan
10-08-2004, 10:50 PM
I completely agree with you there Mike.

Speaking of jobs overseas, where are most of the Heinz factories?

:biglaugh:

pushpills
10-08-2004, 10:51 PM
Good for Bush, I guess.

2 spindoctors at work.


My girlfriend says "I hate Bush, but yea, he did "win the debate" as far as most of america is conerned"



Then I gave her some free wood. No tax cut for art students though.

Mike AI
10-08-2004, 11:04 PM
Serge, even if you cannot stand Bush's religious stance - it is a smart move. The vast majority of this Country DO beleive in God, and claim it play an important roll in their lives. It is a WINNING issue for Bush.

Complete Secularism and Humanism is why Europe has become a 2nd rate power, and continues to spiral down....

Steve - you got a new girl?

slavdogg
10-09-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by slavdogg@Oct 8 2004, 08:46 PM
need some wood ? :lol:
the time it took me to post that i could have had
http://www.needsomewood.com site
or
http://www.needsumwood.com/

for everyone that missed, to me that was the funniest shit Bush ever said.
str8 outta Beavis and Butthead style jokes

and gotta love instand DNS.

KC
10-09-2004, 04:38 AM
I think we need to update the Pledge of Allegience to state:

"One nation under Allah"

How about:

"One nation under Jehovah"

My favorite is:

"One nation under Joe Pesci"

Mike AI
10-09-2004, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by KC@Oct 9 2004, 03:39 AM
I think we need to update the Pledge of Allegience to state:

"One nation under Allah"

How about:

"One nation under Jehovah"

My favorite is:

"One nation under Joe Pesci"


KC God is God. It depends on the person saying it. It could be Allah, Jesus Christ, Jawah, or Serge.


The notion of taking God out of overything is popular in this part of the world - ( adult internet ) But it the majority of the US its a popular issue.

I am comfortable making the heathens uncomfortable....

Hallilujah!!

Winetalk.com
10-09-2004, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 10:05 PM


Complete Secularism and Humanism is why Europe has become a 2nd rate power, and continues to spiral down....

Mike, when I read that, the first thought which came to my mind was:
"Cunilingus and psychatry brought us to this"
;-))

If God is responcible for America;s success-
I see ayatolah's and muslim terrorism has a very bright future,
as "God is their pilot" and go extra mile for it.

Where God has been for 150 years? America ONLY became world power after the World War II, after Europe was nearly completely destroyed in the war.

God played very important part in my business too,
following 11th commandment:
"In God we trust, all other MUST prepay" never did me wrong
;-))))

Winetalk.com
10-09-2004, 06:30 AM
here are the results of some internet polls:
http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/13740.content.html

http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results...__basic_955.htm (http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results/bg_results_ontherecord.jpg__basic_955.htm)

http://info.detnews.com/poll/result.cfm?to...hall_debate&end (http://info.detnews.com/poll/result.cfm?topic=Town_hall_debate&end)

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0%2C1413...55707%2C00.html (http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0%2C1413%2C36%25257E29805%25257E2455707%2C00.html)

pushpills
10-09-2004, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 09:05 PM

Steve - you got a new girl?
Same one, the film student.

Peaches
10-09-2004, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by pushpills+Oct 9 2004, 09:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Oct 9 2004, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 09:05 PM

Steve - you got a new girl?
Same one, the film student. [/b][/quote]
The Asian chick?

pushpills
10-09-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Peaches+Oct 9 2004, 07:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Oct 9 2004, 07:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by pushpills@Oct 9 2004, 09:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Oct 8 2004, 09:05 PM

Steve - you got a new girl?
Same one, the film student.
The Asian chick? [/b][/quote]
no.

she was 1 of two "fillers" when we were kinda possibly breaking up.


6 month anniversary in 2 weeks.

Peaches
10-09-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by pushpills@Oct 9 2004, 09:39 AM
no.

she was 1 of two "fillers" when we were kinda possibly breaking up.


6 month anniversary in 2 weeks.
OK, this is the one that you didn't think was cute enough for you?

I get so confused :(

And in that 6 month, how much was "break up" time? :awinky:

PornoDoggy
10-09-2004, 12:03 PM
I thought Bush did marginally better than last time.

As far as playing religious angles ... while Bush pandered to the "civilization as we know it will end if God is removed from the pledge" crowd, Kerry did just as well with his thoughtful answer on abortion - "I respect your right to your beliefs, but as a public servant I can't force my beliefs on other people." There are an awful lot of Roman Catholics out there - not very noisy ones, but a lot of them nonetheless - who share that belief.

RawAlex
10-09-2004, 12:17 PM
I didn't watch this debate, but from everything I had read, my predicton was wrong - Bush didn't manage to make a major fuckup, although the Supreme Court thing is pretty close.

I think that Kerry is doing a very good job of staying in the game, and his performance in debate one apprears to have really put him right back to "tie with a little lead" in the polls. I truly think that most people expect their sitting president to be able to blow all competition out of the water. Bush has failed at this most massively, and instead his best is to look about average.

My big prediction? The Bush family legacy will be one term presidents.

Alex

Buff
10-09-2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 9 2004, 10:04 AM
I thought Bush did marginally better than last time.

As far as playing religious angles ... while Bush pandered to the "civilization as we know it will end if God is removed from the pledge" crowd, Kerry did just as well with his thoughtful answer on abortion - "I respect your right to your beliefs, but as a public servant I can't force my beliefs on other people." There are an awful lot of Roman Catholics out there - not very noisy ones, but a lot of them nonetheless - who share that belief.
What bothered me is that Kerry said yeah, he can't enforce his beliefs on others, while at the same time saying that he was in favor of using tax dollars to fund abortions for people who couldn't afford them. So he wouldn't force his belief that abortion is wrong on people by trying to get abortion outlawed or something, but he'd enforce the idea that abortion is a right, by forcing taxpayers who might be opposed to abortion to pay for other people's abortions.

I appreciated his honesty on the issue, even if he was circumlocutory about it, but a lot of people are not going to want to be taxed to pay for abortions. I'm one of them.

Buff
10-09-2004, 01:00 PM
Also, Bush really sidestepped the issue about why has he not vetoed a single spending bill, and why, with a Republican Congress (supposedly the fiscal conservatives in politics), has he, a Republican President, run up spending so much. He evaded and twisted his answer all over the place. He cited the war and the recession as reasons for the huge spending, but the questioner had already accounted for those and used numbers which were altered as such. He really had no answer for why his administration makes Bill Clinton look like a right wing fanatic fiscally.

Peaches
10-09-2004, 01:05 PM
It's funny how many people I read think Bush did better this time, but most of the polls think he did a lot worst. I didn't watch either and won't be watching the 3rd one - is it just that Kerry did SO much better that the polls are weird?

Winetalk.com
10-09-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Buff+Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Oct 9 2004, 10:04 AM
I thought Bush did marginally better than last time.

As far as playing religious angles ... while Bush pandered to the "civilization as we know it will end if God is removed from the pledge" crowd, Kerry did just as well with his thoughtful answer on abortion - "I respect your right to your beliefs, but as a public servant I can't force my beliefs on other people." There are an awful lot of Roman Catholics out there - not very noisy ones, but a lot of them nonetheless - who share that belief.
What bothered me is that Kerry said yeah, he can't enforce his beliefs on others, while at the same time saying that he was in favor of using tax dollars to fund abortions for people who couldn't afford them. So he wouldn't force his belief that abortion is wrong on people by trying to get abortion outlawed or something, but he'd enforce the idea that abortion is a right, by forcing taxpayers who might be opposed to abortion to pay for other people's abortions.

I appreciated his honesty on the issue, even if he was circumlocutory about it, but a lot of people are not going to want to be taxed to pay for abortions. I'm one of them. [/b][/quote]
Buff,
as a taxpayer I am opposed to:
being taxed
having my tax dollars buy military equipment I do not approve,
pay for new china at the White House every time new president is elected,
and etc, etc, etc...

do you find my objections ridiculous?
'cuz I am surely find yours to be
;-)))

Buff
10-09-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 9 2004, 12:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 9 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Buff@Oct 9 2004, 11:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Oct 9 2004, 10:04 AM
I thought Bush did marginally better than last time.

As far as playing religious angles ... while Bush pandered to the "civilization as we know it will end if God is removed from the pledge" crowd, Kerry did just as well with his thoughtful answer on abortion - "I respect your right to your beliefs, but as a public servant I can't force my beliefs on other people." There are an awful lot of Roman Catholics out there - not very noisy ones, but a lot of them nonetheless - who share that belief.
What bothered me is that Kerry said yeah, he can't enforce his beliefs on others, while at the same time saying that he was in favor of using tax dollars to fund abortions for people who couldn't afford them. So he wouldn't force his belief that abortion is wrong on people by trying to get abortion outlawed or something, but he'd enforce the idea that abortion is a right, by forcing taxpayers who might be opposed to abortion to pay for other people's abortions.

I appreciated his honesty on the issue, even if he was circumlocutory about it, but a lot of people are not going to want to be taxed to pay for abortions. I'm one of them.
Buff,
as a taxpayer I am opposed to:
being taxed
having my tax dollars buy military equipment I do not approve,
pay for new china at the White House every time new president is elected,
and etc, etc, etc...

do you find my objections ridiculous?
'cuz I am surely find yours to be
;-))) [/b][/quote]
You missed the point. I understand that above and beyond being opposed to getting taxed in the first place, most people are opposed to specific spending that their tax dollars are going toward.

My point was that in the very same sentence that Kerry said it would be wrong for him to impose the values of some people on other people, he said he was going to impose the values of some people on other people.

PornoDoggy
10-09-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Buff@Oct 9 2004, 02:10 PM
You missed the point. I understand that above and beyond being opposed to getting taxed in the first place, most people are opposed to specific spending that their tax dollars are going toward.

My point was that in the very same sentence that Kerry said it would be wrong for him to impose the values of some people on other people, he said he was going to impose the values of some people on other people.
It seemed to me - and I freely acknowledge it's hard for me to be objective about it because of the strength of my feelings* - that Bush was appealing more to his base on the religious right, while Kerry was speaking more to the nation as a whole.

You are right about that.

Of course, I noticed it more when Bush was talking about not appointing Supreme Court justices that will do this or that "because of their own personal beliefs instead of the law." Of course, what one believes the law to be is a matter of personal belief, but hey ...

* That's why I have to ask my girlfriend who SHE thought did better in the debates ... she's far less biased toward either side than I am.

Evil Chris
10-10-2004, 11:37 AM
I had to record the debate on Friday night as I was busy, and I only watched it last night.

My thought is that there wasn't much difference from the first debate. Bush was constantly on the defensive, contrary to his mindset of how the USA must always be on the offence. Am I the only one who noticed this?

Kerry is a much smarter, more reasonable man. He thinks before he acts, and allows himself to change gears to suit the best needs of the issue at hand. This is what the Republicans love to call flip flopping. It isn't.

However, I don't think he should have promised no new taxes for families earning 200K or less. Because you never know what you might need to do in a pinch.

Mike AI
10-10-2004, 11:45 AM
The incumbent is normally the one on the defensive because he has a 4 year record to explain, as well as a future plan he has to communicate to the Country.

PD what you see as pandering to his "religious right base", I see as Bush talking to the vast majority of American's who beleive in God, are not ashamed of it, and understand that certain human endeavours including late term, partial birth abortion is a VERY shady thing. ( especially when it does not invovle threat to mother)

You, the wing kooks who would be happy to abort babys as they are being delivered make up a distinct minority in this country - Just because all your friend in porn, and liberal land are humanists - does not make up for the fact that the United States is a overwhelming God fearing Nation who tends to be very Conservative.

That is why Kerry ran at being labeled the L word.

No democrate could be honest and claim they were a Liberal - because they would lose in a LANDSLIDE. insteead liberals have to pretend to be moderates, and even Conservatives....

It is pretty ironic if you think about it.....

Kerry has been talking like a Conservatice - getting tough on Korea, getting tough on IRan.... Does he really think the American people beleive he is the guy to do it???

He sure is trying....

Evil Chris
10-10-2004, 12:09 PM
I liked how Kerry pointed out that both he and Edwards are lawyers. Indicating at the very least that they have never been C students. LOL

Buff
10-10-2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Evil Chris@Oct 10 2004, 10:10 AM
I liked how Kerry pointed out that both he and Edwards are lawyers. Indicating at the very least that they have never been C students. LOL
Chris, what? If someone is a lawyer, he couldn't have been a C Student?

Evil Chris
10-10-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Buff+Oct 10 2004, 01:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Oct 10 2004, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evil Chris@Oct 10 2004, 10:10 AM
I liked how Kerry pointed out that both he and Edwards are lawyers. Indicating at the very least that they have never been C students. LOL
Chris, what? If someone is a lawyer, he couldn't have been a C Student? [/b][/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't pass the bar with a "C".

Peaches
10-10-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Evil Chris+Oct 10 2004, 02:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Oct 10 2004, 02:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Buff@Oct 10 2004, 01:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Evil Chris@Oct 10 2004, 10:10 AM
I liked how Kerry pointed out that both he and Edwards are lawyers. Indicating at the very least that they have never been C students. LOL
Chris, what? If someone is a lawyer, he couldn't have been a C Student?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't pass the bar with a "C". [/b][/quote]
I belive you can in GA.

IIRC, John Kennedy Jr. was not only a solid C student, but he also failed the bar at least twice before he passed it.

Evil Chris
10-10-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Peaches+Oct 10 2004, 03:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Oct 10 2004, 03:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Evil Chris@Oct 10 2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Buff@Oct 10 2004, 01:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Evil Chris@Oct 10 2004, 10:10 AM
I liked how Kerry pointed out that both he and Edwards are lawyers. Indicating at the very least that they have never been C students. LOL
Chris, what? If someone is a lawyer, he couldn't have been a C Student?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't pass the bar with a "C".
I belive you can in GA.

IIRC, John Kennedy Jr. was not only a solid C student, but he also failed the bar at least twice before he passed it. [/b][/quote]
Well Peaches I stand corrected if your info is right.
Remind me not to retain a lawyer in Georgia!

Rolo
10-10-2004, 05:39 PM
When have a president ever been in a situation, where the well-being of the entire nation was only a matter of his intelligence quotient?

Presidents are made to unite the people - not to solve mathematical problems (he/she got people to do that).

You could elect a person in coma, and the system would still go on... thats the beauty of it ;-)))

Evil Chris
10-10-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Rolo@Oct 10 2004, 05:40 PM
When have a president ever been in a situation, where the well-being of the entire nation was only a matter of his intelligence quotient?

Presidents are made to unite the people - not to solve mathematical problems (he/she got people to do that).

You could elect a person in coma, and the system would still go on... thats the beauty of it ;-)))
You wanna buy some wood? eehehehehe....

PornoDoggy
10-11-2004, 12:08 AM
I'm pretty sure that you can TAKE the bar exam if you are a graduate of an acredited law school, regardless of your GPA. As far as I know, the bar exam itself is not a graded test, but just pass or fail.

Buff
10-11-2004, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 10 2004, 10:09 PM
I'm pretty sure that you can TAKE the bar exam if you are a graduate of an acredited law school, regardless of your GPA. As far as I know, the bar exam itself is not a graded test, but just pass or fail.
a ha!! You've got a cubs fan in your family! ;)