View Full Version : artlovers, where those angels come from?
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09-17-2004, 10:14 AM
http://www.books-4u.com/images/angels.jpg
I didn't know, even though you can see them all over Rome at souvenir stands
;-0)
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 10:35 AM
they are cherubs and they are by raphael :)
Jesse_DD
09-17-2004, 11:14 AM
No, they are from my bathroom. How did you get a picture of them?
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09-17-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 09:36 AM
they are cherubs and they are by raphael :)
yes, but...what painting they are appear?
where painting is hanging?
;-))
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 11:29 AM
Already done in icq....
Viola! :) (http://www.abcgallery.com/R/raphael/raphael44.html)
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09-17-2004, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 10:30 AM
Already done in icq....
Viola! :) (http://www.abcgallery.com/R/raphael/raphael44.html)
Nick,
I take my hat off,
you NEVER disapoint me!
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 17 2004, 07:31 AM
you NEVER disapoint me!
ahhh..... things my wife never says ;-))
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09-17-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Sep 17 2004, 10:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Sep 17 2004, 10:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Sep 17 2004, 07:31 AM
you NEVER disapoint me!
ahhh..... things my wife never says ;-)) [/b][/quote]
...and this si why I am not your wife...I appreciate you more
;-))))
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 11:34 AM
HOMO!!!!
;-)))
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09-17-2004, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 10:35 AM
HOMO!!!!
;-)))
no, I am CYBER homo...I am too scared of pregnancies to be cyber-straight
;-)))
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 11:38 AM
"One of the most frequently discussed and best-loved paintings of the Renaissance is Raphael's so-called Sistine Madonna. For many people it remains the supreme example of western painting, and its popularity is virtually as great as that of the Mona Lisa. All who have written about this picture have acknowledged the strange and baffling expressions worn by Mary and the child Jesus, although attempts to decipher their meaning have frequently been evasive - "visionary pictorial composition" was one interpretation. Whole anthologies have been devoted to the problem. Famous painters and authors, including Goethe, Runge, Schlegel, C. G. Carus, Hebbel, Schopenhauer and R. A. Schröder (to name only German commentators), not to mention a host of art historians, have attempted to explain the painting, and others again have confessed, as Grillparzer did, how much they "would love to get the bottom of the matter". Schopenhauer spoke of the "terror-stricken" face of the boy Jesus; for the dramatist Hebbel, "The child is wild, teeth clenched, eyes blazing..." In the past, the pointing finger of the Holy Father was almost always interpreted as a gesture commending the worshipping viewer to the Madonna. It was also assumed that the Mother and Child were looking at the viewer. But it is precisely here that the puzzle arises. Why does Mary look so troubled? Why is the child, staring transfixedly out of the picture with his ruffled hair, appear to shrink back? Raphael painted the picture for the high altar of S. Sisto in Piacenza. The small town had become part of the Vatican state in 1512, and the picture arose shortly afterwards. Some see a portrait of Pope Julius II in the figure of St. Sixtus on the left, looking up at the Virgin and pointing out towards the viewer. Only recently have the questions surrounding this painting finally been resolved. As recent research by A. Prager has shown, the key to the mystery lies in the position in which the altarpiece originally stood. Taking again the intriguing question of what the Pope is pointing at and what the Mother and Child are looking at, the answer is as astonishing as it is persuasive. It has long been forgotten that, as in many churches, opposite the altarpiece in S. Sisto and above the rood screen at the far end of the chancel there stood a crucifix. The expressions of horror on the faces of Mother and Child are thus their reaction to the sight of death. It is interesting to note that, long before this successful interpretation, it was a writer, and not an art historian, who came closest to understanding the mystery: R. A. Schröder saw the "deepest horror" written in the face of the child, "before which even Death itself is frightened to death"."
Oprano , where the Art of business is encouraged ;-))
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09-17-2004, 11:47 AM
how did it make it to Dresden????
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 11:54 AM
awwww come on!!!
Recognising it was pretty good ...I mean fuck!!!!
LOL
The canvas was located in the convent of St Sixtus in Piacenza and was later donated by the monks to Augustus III, King of Saxony. It was carried to Moscow after the Second World War, and was later returned to Dresden.
LOL
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09-17-2004, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 10:55 AM
awwww come on!!!
Recognising it was pretty good ...I mean fuck!!!!
LOL
The canvas was located in the convent of St Sixtus in Piacenza and was later donated by the monks to Augustus III, King of Saxony. It was carried to Moscow after the Second World War, and was later returned to Dresden.
LOL
Nick, I am NOT testing you, I just learning from you and..thanks for all the info, mate!
Nickatilynx
09-17-2004, 12:00 PM
No problemo
Google is a wonderful thing if you have the knowledge to use it.
;-))
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09-17-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 11:01 AM
No problemo
Google is a wonderful thing if you have the knowledge to use it.
;-))
....or time
;-)))
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 07:55 AM
awwww come on!!!
Recognising it was pretty good ...I mean fuck!!!!
LOL
The canvas was located in the convent of St Sixtus in Piacenza and was later donated by the monks to Augustus III, King of Saxony. It was carried to Moscow after the Second World War, and was later returned to Dresden.
LOL
I would check it very carefully to make sure the Russians didnt return a copy :lol:
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09-17-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by JFK+Sep 17 2004, 12:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JFK @ Sep 17 2004, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 07:55 AM
awwww come on!!!
Recognising it was pretty good ...I mean fuck!!!!
LOL
The canvas was located in the convent of St Sixtus in Piacenza and was later donated by the monks to Augustus III, King of Saxony. It was carried to Moscow after the Second World War, and was later returned to Dresden.
LOL
I would check it very carefully to make sure the Russians didnt return a copy :lol: [/b][/quote]
JFK, wouldn't surprise me
;-)))
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Sep 17 2004, 10:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Sep 17 2004, 10:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by JFK@Sep 17 2004, 12:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2004, 07:55 AM
awwww come on!!!
Recognising it was pretty good ...I mean fuck!!!!
LOL
The canvas was located in the convent of St Sixtus in Piacenza and was later donated by the monks to Augustus III, King of Saxony. It was carried to Moscow after the Second World War, and was later returned to Dresden.
LOL
I would check it very carefully to make sure the Russians didnt return a copy :lol:
JFK, wouldn't surprise me
;-))) [/b][/quote]
I have seen some absolutely amazing fakes coming out of Russia, Good enough to fool The "experts" at the major auction Houses :rolleyes:
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