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Mike AI
09-10-2004, 03:01 PM
We Are So Sorry for 9-11
This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.

After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and “intellectuals” blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and “steal” Iraqi oil.


As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and "intellectuals" to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11 . . .



After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11?
If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia?

If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain?

If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places?

If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings?

If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour?

If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women?

What will we apologize for?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?

Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.

Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit.

Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.

Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and “intellectuals” to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11.

We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning.

We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy.

We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia.

We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain.

We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world.

We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people.

We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades.

We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope.

We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.

We are so sorry.

For more information visit our website at: www.freemuslims.org

JR
09-10-2004, 03:32 PM
Everytime something happens in Russia, Putin puts Muslim leaders on TV right away to condemn everything. He did it last night too for the school bombing. He smiles a lot for western press, but in Russia, there is no doubt who is in control and he does not miss a chance to make that very clear.

After the theater seige was the best... he put 3 of the top muslim clerics on TV and with a very stern look on his face just said "so, what do you have to say" and let them address all of Russia live. They looked like frightened little kids and left little doubt in the sincerity of their condemnation and apology (although, i am sure they had good reason to be frightened).

Mike AI
09-10-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by JR@Sep 10 2004, 02:33 PM
Everytime something happens in Russia, Putin puts Muslim leaders on TV right away to condemn everything. He did it last night too for the school bombing. He smiles a lot for western press, but in Russia, there is no doubt who is in control and he does not miss a chance to make that very clear.

After the theater seige was the best... he put 3 of the top muslim clerics on TV and with a very stern look on his face just said "so, what do you have to say" and let them address all of Russia live. They looked like frightened little kids and left little doubt in the sincerity of their condemnation and apology (although, i am sure they had good reason to be frightened).


Interesting. Well hopefully the normal every day Muslim will wake up and not let a few wackos control their fate.

This is not a war they can win in the long run.

JR
09-11-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 10 2004, 11:53 AM


This is not a war they can win in the long run.
when they die, they win.

:)

Rolo
09-11-2004, 06:51 AM
Intresting... modern muslims need to clearly separate themself from the islamists... maybe http://www.freemuslims.org is the begining of a modern/western muslims movement.

ivil_klown
09-11-2004, 07:54 AM
Its just too bad that their religion has always been associated to terrorism. I guess this is something that Muslims have to really work hard on.

Dravyk
09-12-2004, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by JR+Sep 11 2004, 01:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Sep 11 2004, 01:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Sep 10 2004, 11:53 AM


This is not a war they can win in the long run.
when they die, they win.

:) [/b][/quote]
Only cause they each get 300 virgins or something like that. :)

cj
09-12-2004, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by ivil_klown@Sep 11 2004, 06:55 AM
Its just too bad that their religion has always been associated to terrorism. I guess this is something that Muslims have to really work hard on.
WHAT?!?!?!? :lol:

roughly 2,000,000,000 Muslims on this planet ... its the second most popular religion in the united states ... but yes, all of them should apologize for the action of a few thousand.

Have all the christians, catholics and protestants apologized to the muslims for the damage we've caused them? HAHAHHAHAH what a rediculous notion.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/images/slides/011634.jpg

NOW APOLOGIZE DAMNIT!!

:unsure:

I think that Mike has learnt the skill of starting controversial threads for page views. :rolleyes:

SykkBoy
09-12-2004, 03:19 PM
The problem with forced apologies is they seem to lack sincerity...
take the Catholic Chruch (in my opinion, the world's largest religious cult)...they only apologized for letting preists destroy children because of public pressure, not because they felt they had to, they only apologized for sitting by and letting the holocaust happen because of public pressure, but these apologies never seemed sincere...

Maybe we need to get rid of the most damaging religions on the planet: islam and catholocism...they've destroyed more lives than most wars....

When I used to see nuns, I had a certain amount of respect, because here was someone who was dedicated to their religion, but now all I feel is pity...

I hear all of these bible and koran thumpers preaching peace and love and forgivness, but have yet to see it on a large scale...I find it funny that I see this more amongst my athiest, agnostic and satanic friends....maybe I'm just lucky to have good friends?

Almighty Colin
09-12-2004, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by SykkBoy@Sep 12 2004, 02:20 PM
satanic friends.
Hey, I don't read that every day.

SykkBoy
09-12-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Colin+Sep 12 2004, 02:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Sep 12 2004, 02:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SykkBoy@Sep 12 2004, 02:20 PM
satanic friends.
Hey, I don't read that every day. [/b][/quote]
with me around, anything is possible...
the funny thing is, myself and the rest of my friends bust on our devil buddies almost as much if not more than our Jesus friends...