Prediction: Bush/McCain Ticket

[KC]

I saw this on the drudgereport...

http://drudgereport.com/flash4.htm

NYT PAGE ONE THURS: BUSH TO DROP CHENEY GOSSIP
Wed Jul 14 2004 18:21:14 ET

The latest theory about Vice President Dick Cheney's future on the Republican ticket, advanced privately by prominent Democrats, including members of Congress, holds that Cheney recently dropped his personal doctor because of drug addiction so that he could hire a new one, who will conveniently tell him in August that his heart problems have made him unfit to run with Bush!

So reports the NEW YORK TIMES, in a planned Front Page story on Thursday.

Reporter Elisabeth Bumiller is set to kick the gossip into high gear with a 1,600-word speculative, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

Developing...

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If Bush dropped Cheney because of "Heart Problems" and picked up someone like McCain would be do better against "the Johns" than if he stuck with Cheney?

[Peaches]

Originally posted by KC@Jul 14 2004, 10:45 PM
If Bush dropped Cheney because of "Heart Problems" and picked up someone like McCain would be do better against "the Johns" than if he stuck with Cheney?
In a word: Yes

There has been speculation about this for months. I suspect Bush's people were waiting until they saw who Kerry picked and will wait a bit longer for things to cool down, but at this point, I'd be shocked if Cheney DIDN'T develop some "problems". Now to see if McCain will agree :awinky:

[slavdogg]

This is probably McCain's last chanse if he wants to get into the whitehouse
but would he run against his buddy, Kerry ?

[KC]

Originally posted by slavdogg@Jul 15 2004, 05:41 AM
This is probably McCain's last chanse if he wants to get into the whitehouse
but would he run against his buddy, Kerry ?
I thought it was interesting how he adamantly denied he would accept a Kerry VP job.

Maybe he and Dubya's people have been considering options all along. Who knows.. it could be nothing, but it would really shake things up.

If Cheney was dropped from the ticket, other than McCain who might be chosen to help keep Bush in the Whitehouse?

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Originally posted by KC+Jul 15 2004, 06:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KC @ Jul 15 2004, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slavdogg@Jul 15 2004, 05:41 AM
This is probably McCain's last chanse if he wants to get into the whitehouse
but would he run against his buddy, Kerry ?
I thought it was interesting how he adamantly denied he would accept a Kerry VP job.

Maybe he and Dubya's people have been considering options all along. Who knows.. it could be nothing, but it would really shake things up.

If Cheney was dropped from the ticket, other than McCain who might be chosen to help keep Bush in the Whitehouse? [/b][/quote]
KC, I am with you on this one

[Almighty Colin]

That would be an odd pairing given Bush and McCain history. What's the source of that rumor? "Some guy"? The one word missing from that "article" is "conspiracy" as in "The latest conspiracy theory about Vice President Dick Cheney". I think it's BS, something dreamed up by a drunken senator in one of the beltway's best bars and repeated via the telephone game.

[KC]

Originally posted by Colin@Jul 15 2004, 07:18 AM
That would be an odd pairing given Bush and McCain history. What's the source of that rumor? "Some guy"? The one word missing from that "article" is "conspiracy" as in "The latest conspiracy theory about Vice President Dick Cheney". I think it's BS, something dreamed up by a drunken senator in one of the beltway's best bars and repeated via the telephone game.
I just found this article... He brings up some good points on a Bush/McCain ticket. This was back in Feb, 02, 2004!

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3099.html

The last paragraph brings up an interesting point:

"If you think a Bush-McCain ticket is beyond the realm of possibility, just remember the re-election campaign's website is simply georgewbush.com."

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McCain will NEVER run with Bush

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by KC@Jul 15 2004, 07:22 AM


The last paragraph brings up an interesting point:

"If you think a Bush-McCain ticket is beyond the realm of possibility, just remember the re-election campaign's website is simply georgewbush.com."
yeah, and that's leaves him with about 100000 more choices,
McCain will not be one of them
;-)))

[PornoDoggy]

I don't think it's going to happen. A lot of people "on the fence" would see it as an act of desperation.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jul 15 2004, 08:17 AM
I don't think it's going to happen. A lot of people "on the fence" would see it as an act of desperation.
PD, you don't make sense....thru your glasses me taking shit 30 mins earlier as usual can be interpreted as attempt of suicide.

[grimm]

Originally posted by KC@Jul 14 2004, 06:45 PM
I saw this on the drudgereport...

http://drudgereport.com/flash4.htm

NYT PAGE ONE THURS: BUSH TO DROP CHENEY GOSSIP
Wed Jul 14 2004 18:21:14 ET

The latest theory about Vice President Dick Cheney's future on the Republican ticket, advanced privately by prominent Democrats, including members of Congress, holds that Cheney recently dropped his personal doctor because of drug addiction so that he could hire a new one, who will conveniently tell him in August that his heart problems have made him unfit to run with Bush!

So reports the NEW YORK TIMES, in a planned Front Page story on Thursday.

Reporter Elisabeth Bumiller is set to kick the gossip into high gear with a 1,600-word speculative, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.

Developing...

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If Bush dropped Cheney because of "Heart Problems" and picked up someone like McCain would be do better against "the Johns" than if he stuck with Cheney?
he has to, cheney is plaque in the artery of the GOP. like a weight on a sinking sopranos characters feet.

I mean bush is gonna lose, but with cheney, it wont be tight;)

anyway, hes got a million medical reasons to step down. would not be unexpected

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jul 15 2004, 08:17 AM
I don't think it's going to happen. A lot of people "on the fence" would see it as an act of desperation.
I think there are more people on the fence that don't like Cheney.

Anyway, more than 85% of Democrats want Bush gone and more than 85% of Republicans want Bush again. Historic numbers in combination. It seems that the election will be decided by voter turnout. There are more Democrats than Republicans in the US. Will they show up at the polls?

[steves]

Powell is expected to step down. Maybe Powell as VP?

[KC]

BREAKING NEWS... George W. Bush announces Hillary Clinton as running mate!

Sorry, I'll put the crack pipe down. :D

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by steves@Jul 15 2004, 09:15 AM
Powell is expected to step down. Maybe Powell as VP?
No way, I say. It seems like Powell has been a bit of an outsider on the inside in this administration.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jul 15 2004, 08:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jul 15 2004, 08:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PornoDoggy@Jul 15 2004, 08:17 AM
I don't think it's going to happen. A lot of people "on the fence" would see it as an act of desperation.
PD, you don't make sense....thru your glasses me taking shit 30 mins earlier as usual can be interpreted as attempt of suicide. [/b][/quote]
You are entitled to your opinion, of couse; you are also entitled to shit any time you want to.

This was not "Bush-bashing", btw.

Now, if I had said Bush dropping Cheney would be like Charlie McCarthy dropping Edgar Bergen or Howdy Doody dropping Cowboy Bob, then .... :D

The tactic (changing VPs) might work if a sitting President could pull it off as a suprise. Part of the reason I think it would be regarded as an act of desperation is that it has been so widely discussed for some time now.

I also have to wonder if changing VP candidates could have much of an effect on the campaign of an incumbent.

Remember too that there are some who believe Cheny to be part of the Holy Trinity who do NOT think very highly of McCain - some of the bobbleheads on this board have in fact referred to him as a R.I.N.O. Considering the emphasis that the campaign is putting on the so-called "threat" to marriage, I don't think they'd risk the part of their base who believes that Cheney keeps pushing the President in the "right" direction.

Of course, it is politics. George McGovern backed Tom Eagleton 1000% three days before dropping him from the ticket. GHWB campaigned hard against "Voodoo economics" before being blinded on the road to the convention and experiencing a conversion. Anything could happen.

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PD, you can bash Bush all you want, he is NOT my brother
;-))

[Mike AI]

While I think a Bush/McCain ticket would infuse some excitement into Bush's campaign - I do not see it happening. Bush is way to loyal to dump Cheney. It would have to be CHENEY who came to Bush and fell on the sword. Would Cheney do this?

Many time politicians are insulated from reality..... I like Cheney, I think he is very serious and very competent - unfortunately he has some baggage due to previous job at Halliburton. ( I would how this will effect finding future leaders who take jobs with other large corporations?)

I just don't think Bush campaign has it in them to pull this off.

[JoesHO]

Condalisa rice will be someone to watch for sure.....

[dig420]

Originally posted by KC+Jul 15 2004, 06:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KC @ Jul 15 2004, 06:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-slavdogg@Jul 15 2004, 05:41 AM
This is probably McCain's last chanse if he wants to get into the whitehouse
but would he run against his buddy, Kerry ?
I thought it was interesting how he adamantly denied he would accept a Kerry VP job.

Maybe he and Dubya's people have been considering options all along. Who knows.. it could be nothing, but it would really shake things up.

If Cheney was dropped from the ticket, other than McCain who might be chosen to help keep Bush in the Whitehouse? [/b][/quote]
I think McCain has contempt for Bush and probably wouldn't accept a VP slot. He'd rather wait 4 years and run against Kerry as the republican nominee imho. If Bush loses, especially if he loses by a substantial margin, the neocon faction's power will wane dramatically and I can't see anything else stopping McCain from being The Man for his party.

[Almighty Colin]

Yesterday's Gallup poll ... "A majority of Americans, including 7 in 10 Republicans, want Cheney to remain on the ticket, his favorable ratings are no lower now than they were earlier this year"

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"Additionally, the support level for keeping Cheney is significantly higher than was the comparable support level for Bush's father retaining Vice President Dan Quayle back in 1992. In short, there is little evidence of an increase in a "dump Cheney" sentiment from the American public's perspective. If anything, the trends are in the opposite direction."