SicCash doesn't convert for shit

[Winetalk.com]

http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/

weasel, with webmasters leaving and you blowing smoke on Oprano how well you do,
how long 'till you close SicCash for good?

[pushpills]

it's tough to say wether or not siccash converts, brad keeps the sales for himself.

[Opti]

I think Brad lost interest in Sicash when he started blowing..

http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...=&threadid=8885 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8885)

and

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html

show similar sort of figures too this month

[Nickatilynx]

A second opinion is always good , Serge...

http://www.netpond.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13007

Oh it confirms it .

SICcash doesn't convert.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 2 2004, 01:40 PM
it's tough to say wether or not siccash converts, brad keeps the sales for himself.
ahahahahahhahaha nice one.

You are growing on me!!!

[Winetalk.com]

I wouldn't poke my nose in Brad's affairs if he wasn't using old tactic of beating his own drum when things are bad....

they ARE bad on the most business froents of his, which explain his upbeat posts about his persona...poor Yorik,
I see thru him without Xray, he is that transparent

[Weg Cory]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jul 2 2004, 01:31 PM
http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/

weasel, with webmasters leaving and you blowing smoke on Oprano how well you do,
how long 'till you close SicCash for good?
Damn, those guys over at WegCash must be doing something right, they are high up on that list!

I heard they hire some smart guys and girls over there!

People should send them traffic for sure!

WegCash converts. Proven fact. (http://www.wegcash.com)

[Peaches]

Originally posted by WEGCashCory+Jul 2 2004, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (WEGCashCory @ Jul 2 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Serge_Oprano@Jul 2 2004, 01:31 PM
http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/

weasel, with webmasters leaving and you blowing smoke on Oprano how well you do,
how long 'till you close SicCash for good?
Damn, those guys over at WegCash must be doing something right, they are high up on that list!

I heard they hire some smart guys and girls over there!

People should send them traffic for sure!

WegCash converts. Proven fact. (http://www.wegcash.com) [/b][/quote]
I don't know why, but something made me want to quote this post! :rolleyes:

[BradShaw]

But our checks from Madagascar always arrive on time.

Why do you think I am opening a hosting company?

[Jim]

anyone know why brad is spending so much time here today?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Jim@Jul 2 2004, 05:57 PM
anyone know why brad is spending so much time here today?
because he belives like Sinatra,
"If I can make it at Oprano, I can make it everywhere"
;-))))

but he can't...even though I gotta give him crtedit-
he tries hard
;-))))

[Hammer]

Ya, but SIC is still converting better than Lightspeed and Adult.com so go figure. I bet Lens is a bit disappointed to be in last place too.

And WTF, apparently they're not even using PureCash. What's up with that?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by The Hammer@Jul 3 2004, 09:01 PM
Ya, but SIC is still converting better than Lightspeed and Adult.com so go figure. I bet Lens is a bit disappointed to be in last place too.

And WTF, apparently they're not even using PureCash. What's up with that?


I have been in touch with them, PureCash should be up in July's report!

So far this month we are convertin 1 in 408 overall - including all sites. I think this is pretty damn amazing!!

I have been trying to spread the word.

PureCash also pays out $35 per $2.95 trial on single girls sites ( we created the niche in 1996) whereas other people only pay 60% rev share and don't retain for shit!

B)

[JoesHO]

Pure cash has the best looking women, we aint dealing in rocket science here...

[gregtx]

interesting ...

I just pulled Marcus B's account...

1:472 overall .. on conversions to uniques...

he may be using raw stats to post his results... and some sponsors only show uniques.. some being second page.. some being join page..

again.. i do not know how he tracks his stats... and if he is comparing apples and oranges...

everyone has different traffic... just b/c one company does not have a desirable conversion rate does not mean we are having any problems :)

But I thank you for your concern... I hope you find time to spend with your families.. this weekend.. its good for the soul ;)


ps.. if Marcus reads this board.. I would love to talk to him about the sites he is promoting.. as he converted as good as 1:87 and as bad as 1:1400... but some of the sites he promotes could be adjusted for more desirable results... not a guarantee.. but i'm willing to offer help :)

[JoesHO]

Weasel, how come everyone I talk to says the same thing Serge is saying.... I have heard how bad siccash converts at least three times this week alone..LOL

[gregtx]

Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jul 3 2004, 07:40 PM
Weasel, how come everyone I talk to says the same thing Serge is saying.... I have heard how bad siccash converts at least three times this week alone..LOL
Joe.. I will again.... say what I just said... now please keep up... I hate repeating myself for the slow learners ;)

SICCash is not having any problems...

SICCash converts just fine.... been steady at 1:300-1:400 for the last year.... overall

Please come up with your own battles... as jumping on a bandwagon that you really know nothing about... only shows your weak attempt to try to suck someones dick for some notoriety...

I have nothing against you.. but I do pretty much run SICCash...and make sure that it continues to be profitable...and that our webmasters are also doing well... if you knew how a program works.. you would understand that if the webmasters are not making money... the program will not make money... if you read up.... someone posted greenguyandjims thread... and GG actually mentioned exactly what I was reffering too... not all sponsors count uniques and raws the same.. we show BOTH... so comparing apples to oranges is not always as easy as it appears...

peace

[Winetalk.com]

GregX,
Iraq is looking foir a new information minister,
you should apply

[Winetalk.com]

Greg, EVERY traffic service out there says the same thing:
SIC CASH doesn't convert,
check Netpond too.

[Opti]

Originally posted by gregtx@Jul 4 2004, 01:28 PM
interesting ...

I just pulled Marcus B's account...

1:472 overall .. on conversions to uniques...

he may be using raw stats to post his results... and some sponsors only show uniques.. some being second page.. some being join page..

again.. i do not know how he tracks his stats... and if he is comparing apples and oranges...

everyone has different traffic... just b/c one company does not have a desirable conversion rate does not mean we are having any problems :)

But I thank you for your concern... I hope you find time to spend with your families.. this weekend.. its good for the soul ;)


ps.. if Marcus reads this board.. I would love to talk to him about the sites he is promoting.. as he converted as good as 1:87 and as bad as 1:1400... but some of the sites he promotes could be adjusted for more desirable results... not a guarantee.. but i'm willing to offer help :)
I've seen you do this before Gregtx.... answer an affiliate complaint by posting your analysis of their account.


Very wrong imho.. but even if you think not... Still not very classy :\

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Opti@Jul 4 2004, 05:01 AM

I've seen you do this before Gregtx.... answer an affiliate complaint by posting your analysis of their account.


Very wrong imho.. but even if you think not... Still not very classy :\
Opti,
people with class can not work for weasel who can't even define himself what class is
;-))

[CuriousToyBoy]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jul 4 2004, 02:38 PM
GregX,
Iraq is looking foir a new information minister,
you should apply
:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Are applications open for Chemical Ali's job as well?

:lol:

[Monk]

Originally posted by Opti@Jul 2 2004, 04:42 PM
I think Brad lost interest in Sicash when he started blowing..

http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...=&threadid=8885 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8885)

and

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html

show similar sort of figures too this month
http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html

I know this guy had a GFY thread and said he didn't have time to deal with figuring out the actual # of uniques that he sent to a program so he just went with the sponsor's count.

So, those numbers are pretty meaningless taken by themselves.

[gregtx]

Originally posted by Opti+Jul 4 2004, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Jul 4 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-gregtx@Jul 4 2004, 01:28 PM
interesting ...

I just pulled Marcus B's account...

1:472 overall .. on conversions to uniques...

he may be using raw stats to post his results... and some sponsors only show uniques.. some being second page.. some being join page..

again.. i do not know how he tracks his stats... and if he is comparing apples and oranges...

everyone has different traffic... just b/c one company does not have a desirable conversion rate does not mean we are having any problems :)

But I thank you for your concern... I hope you find time to spend with your families.. this weekend.. its good for the soul ;)


ps.. if Marcus reads this board.. I would love to talk to him about the sites he is promoting.. as he converted as good as 1:87 and as bad as 1:1400... but some of the sites he promotes could be adjusted for more desirable results... not a guarantee.. but i'm willing to offer help :)
I've seen you do this before Gregtx.... answer an affiliate complaint by posting your analysis of their account.


Very wrong imho.. but even if you think not... Still not very classy :\ [/b][/quote]
Opti, if someone wants to post their stats and results of a company on a public forum... then I see nothing wrong with answering their post on a public forum.

If that person chooses to email or icq me, I will answer their question there...
as I did not even know this person.. .nor is it even my account, but I took a proactive choice to resolve any questions or problems...

if that is being unclassy.. i'm unclassy..

if working for Brad is unclassy, i'm unclassy... its amazing to see the childish behavoir of some people to not like me b/c of where I work...

Monk...
Thank you for pointing out that obivous error in those results... as appearanlty i'm just classless for pointnig out the same thing...

this will be my last post at this board... thanks for the past times. it used to be enjoyable :(

[Mike AI]

Greg has one of the toughest jobs in the busines, and handles it like a pro.

Greg is a very classy person! Even for a puerto rican!

:lol:

[Opti]

Originally posted by gregtx@Jul 5 2004, 12:46 AM
Opti, if someone wants to post their stats and results of a company on a public forum... then I see nothing wrong with answering their post on a public forum.

If that person chooses to email or icq me, I will answer their question there...
as I did not even know this person.. .nor is it even my account, but I took a proactive choice to resolve any questions or problems...

if that is being unclassy.. i'm unclassy..

if working for Brad is unclassy, i'm unclassy... its amazing to see the childish behavoir of some people to not like me b/c of where I work...

Monk...
Thank you for pointing out that obivous error in those results... as appearanlty i'm just classless for pointnig out the same thing...

this will be my last post at this board... thanks for the past times. it used to be enjoyable :(
Ok, don't run away, you're a class act!! :inlove: ... but It does rub me up the wrong way to see you using that private information as it suits you... I wasn't just trying to be bitchy at the boss btw. You started to do a similar public job on me once and I really didn't like it.. that's where the issue came from, nothing to do with Brad. ;-)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by gregtx@Jul 4 2004, 09:46 AM


this will be my last post at this board...
I read the same thing weasel posting on his board 2 months ago and we all know what happened after wards.

don't post, don't read, and see if I care.

Good riddance.

Your sig now belongs to me, you don';t post and I do with it what pleases me

[sextoyking]

Greg's ok in my book, always a fun guy to party and do biz with. He's cool :)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by sextoyking@Jul 4 2004, 01:02 PM
Greg's ok in my book, always a fun guy to party and do biz with. He's cool :)
when was the last time you saw him?

[sextoyking]

Last time I saw Greg was probably a couple of years ago I guess.

We were all playing golf, well actually I was driving the beer cart :)

Of course Fletch kicked his butt!!!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by sextoyking@Jul 4 2004, 01:40 PM
Last time I saw Greg was probably a couple of years ago I guess.

We were all playing golf, well actually I was driving the beer cart :)

Of course Fletch kicked his butt!!!
Todd, in your estimate, how much your "couple years old" info is worth?

for argument sake,
do people change in time space continuum?

[BradShaw]

Greg has an easy job. I put him and my other employees in the positions to succeed in real business. Not kids playing in the sand box.

Always good to read things like this as well. Someone likes my old program.

http://www.adultgrind.com/news/index.php?m=show&id=236

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jul 4 2004, 02:37 PM
Greg has an easy job. I put him and my other employees in the positions to succeed in real business. Not kids playing in the sand box.

Always good to read things like this as well. Someone likes my old program.

http://www.adultgrind.com/news/index.php?m=show&id=236
oh puhleeze! I can buy this tongue cheap and he'll write about my program I don't even have anything I want,
I trust the voice of the people much more than hired writers
;-)))

pull this wool over your morons,
bullshit doesn't fly on Oprano

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jul 3 2004, 08:38 PM
GregX,
Iraq is looking foir a new information minister,
you should apply
lolololololol that was funny :okthumb:

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 4 2004, 06:56 AM
Greg has one of the toughest jobs in the busines, and handles it like a pro.

Greg is a very classy person! Even for a puerto rican!

:lol:
uh -no, don't let Brand0n find this out. he already hates mexicans

[Opti]

That Author's opinion probably doesnt carry much weight around Oprano :(

Sic Cash
By: Undermyspell
Sunday July,04 2004

Undermyspell (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=b0f1a2facd0f5f6418651914cc2abf53&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=)


*ding*

[Hell Puppy]

Sponsor provided stats mean absolutely nothing. You cant just dismiss someone who says you convert 1:2000 by saying "well our system shows 1:500". If the person providing the stats is counting clicks himself and counting all sponsors he's comparing by the same method then it is a valid comparison.

If he's counting consistently using a counter, his own stats program, phpAds or whatever and he shows it takes 2000 clicks to get a sale on one program and 1000 clicks to get a sale on another. Well, the latter converts twice as good as the former. Period.

You're in the no spin zone, go try the jedi mind tricks elsewhere. Only numbers that count here are the ones written beside the "$" on the check.

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by gregtx+Jul 3 2004, 08:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gregtx @ Jul 3 2004, 08:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JoesHO1@Jul 3 2004, 07:40 PM
Weasel, how come everyone I talk to says the same thing Serge is saying.... I have heard how bad siccash converts at least three times this week alone..LOL
Joe.. I will again.... say what I just said... now please keep up... I hate repeating myself for the slow learners ;)

SICCash is not having any problems...

SICCash converts just fine.... been steady at 1:300-1:400 for the last year.... overall

Please come up with your own battles... as jumping on a bandwagon that you really know nothing about... only shows your weak attempt to try to suck someones dick for some notoriety...

I have nothing against you.. but I do pretty much run SICCash...and make sure that it continues to be profitable...and that our webmasters are also doing well... if you knew how a program works.. you would understand that if the webmasters are not making money... the program will not make money... if you read up.... someone posted greenguyandjims thread... and GG actually mentioned exactly what I was reffering too... not all sponsors count uniques and raws the same.. we show BOTH... so comparing apples to oranges is not always as easy as it appears...

peace [/b][/quote]
I repeat, we are still in control of the city.....

the americans are not invading.....

Peace...

:P

[PornoDoggy]

Joe ... just out of curiousity, what is your personal experience with Brad and with SIC Cash?

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jul 4 2004, 08:37 PM
Joe ... just out of curiousity, what is your personal experience with Brad and with SIC Cash?
I went to introduce myself to Brad once, and he would not even look in my eyes, or shake my hand. I have paid attention to who has done what to whom in the industry, adn find that I will never look to shake anything from brad again.

percieved success or failure does not create a measure of ones worth, sometimes you just need to look into the windows of their soul to know what they are.

I have never/ or never will do anything to promote siccash, I would clean toilets first for minimum wage, and I believe that in the long run I would make more money, and never have to worry about getting screwed out of my hard work!

[PornoDoggy]

For the record, my only impression of Brad has been from the boards. SIC is one of the sponsors I promote, and while certainly not the best, it has converted about average for me. Keep in mind, however, that I operate on traffic levels that most of Oprano would sneer at.

It's pretty unusual for me to even post in a thread like this - I read 'em and take in the information, but I try not to shoot my mouth off on something I don't know anything about. There are people in this thread who's opinions I respect, and there are others who, well, have their own axes to grind. And then ...

...well, I guess greg was right.

And the colored girls go
Doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo doo doo
Doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo doo doo
Doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo doo doo

[hoescom]

This is Marc from Hoes.com

Nice to meet you all! This is my first post on this board as I noticed the thread about my stats in my log.

Let me start by saying that SicCash has started the month off strong. We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.

The stats that I show are taken from StatsRemote. Everyone knows that it counts both raw and unique, and I simply choose to display the unique stats. Some sponsors only show second page unique, some first page. SicCash shows first page. I plan to incorporate a way of showing which sponsors use which method for better analysis of the stats. Please note that I do show previous month's results and from that, you can obviously see the substantial drop in conversions for SicCash. That is why I posted a note about it and that is why I took some of the traffic away. I do things very methodically and it has worked very well for me.

I must say that I'm not thrilled with having a sponsor pull stats about my account and post them on a public forum. I can understand if I were making up lies about the program and they wanted to dispute those lies, however, just posting information to back up their general claim of the program's stability is a bad move.

I would glady welcome a review of the SicCash sites which you feel I could be promoting differently at hoes.com, you can icq me at 24142711

I understand that some tours convert better than others and I simply haven't had the time to modify those on a sponsor-by-sponsor basis.

marc

[Nickatilynx]

We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.


I'm sure that as long as your stats are widely publicised you will find your conversions improve ;-))))


;-))))))
( those were gratuitious winky faces)

[hoescom]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jul 5 2004, 11:34 AM
We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.


I'm sure that as long as your stats are widely publicised you will find your conversions improve ;-))))


;-))))))
( those were gratuitious winky faces)
Nah, come on? You mean they can turn the shave-o-matic off? I've never heard of a sponsor doing that ;-)

I didn't know that button had an off feature.

marc

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by hoescom+Jul 5 2004, 11:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hoescom @ Jul 5 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Jul 5 2004, 11:34 AM
We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.


I'm sure that as long as your stats are widely publicised you will find your conversions improve ;-))))


;-))))))
( those were gratuitious winky faces)
Nah, come on? You mean they can turn the shave-o-matic off? I've never heard of a sponsor doing that ;-)

I didn't know that button had an off feature.

marc [/b][/quote]
I know , its incredible!!!! ;-))

I hear ..some even have an "add-on" feature.

;-)))

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by hoescom+Jul 5 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hoescom @ Jul 5 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Jul 5 2004, 11:34 AM
We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.


I'm sure that as long as your stats are widely publicised you will find your conversions improve ;-))))


;-))))))
( those were gratuitious winky faces)
Nah, come on? You mean they can turn the shave-o-matic off? I've never heard of a sponsor doing that ;-)

I didn't know that button had an off feature.

marc [/b][/quote]
Mansion is a fine piece of software....

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by hoescom+Jul 5 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hoescom @ Jul 5 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Jul 5 2004, 11:34 AM
We're only 5 days into it, but I'm hoping the trend continues.


I'm sure that as long as your stats are widely publicised you will find your conversions improve ;-))))


;-))))))
( those were gratuitious winky faces)
Nah, come on? You mean they can turn the shave-o-matic off? I've never heard of a sponsor doing that ;-)

I didn't know that button had an off feature.

marc [/b][/quote]
thisa is the oldest trick in the book....

[Jim]

SHIT!! I forgot to have the shave feature built into the new program!!!

NOT!