Will you read Bill Clinton's new book?

[Almighty Colin]

I will.

[Buff]

No. I don't read any of that kind of tripe. Who really cares what some ex-politician has to say? Those people are professional liars -- why would you pay to read their lies about their lies?

What am I looking forward to is Charles Adams' book about European opinions of the Civil War which he's supposedly putting the finishing touches on now. According to DiLorenzo, it's probably going to be like a greatly revised version of The Glittering Illusion by Sheldon Vanauken. Adams, incidently, writes a lot about taxation, Colin, with such titles as For Good and Evil: The Impact of Taxes on the Course of Civilization and Those Dirty Rotten Taxes: The Tax Revolts That Built America. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dstripbooks%26field-keywords%3Dcharles%2520adams/104-3183223-6184728)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Buff@Jun 17 2004, 08:29 AM
No. I don't read any of that kind of tripe. Who really cares what some ex-politician has to say? Those people are professional liars -- why would you pay to read their lies about their lies?

What am I looking forward to is Charles Adams' book about European opinions of the Civil War which he's supposedly putting the finishing touches on now. According to DiLorenzo, it's probably going to be like a greatly revised version of The Glittering Illusion by Sheldon Vanauken. Adams, incidently, writes a lot about taxation, Colin, with such titles as For Good and Evil: The Impact of Taxes on the Course of Civilization and Those Dirty Rotten Taxes: The Tax Revolts That Built America. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dstripbooks%26field-keywords%3Dcharles%2520adams/104-3183223-6184728)
I haven't read Adams. I'll pick something up.

As far as "professional liars", everyone has their slant - even historians. But Clinton can say whatever he wants and then other people involved can contradict what he says - whether now or in 20 or even 50 years. I think if one is interested in the reasoning behind a certain policy, for example, it is good to read what the person who ordered it's execution has to say about it to include in the big picture. Then over time private letters, etc. will be added to the mix and a fuller picture will emerge. What's most interesting is when a politician/policy maker says something in public that is later contradicted by their personal writings.

[Buff]

Originally posted by Colin+Jun 17 2004, 07:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Jun 17 2004, 07:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Buff@Jun 17 2004, 08:29 AM
No. I don't read any of that kind of tripe. Who really cares what some ex-politician has to say? Those people are professional liars -- why would you pay to read their lies about their lies?

What am I looking forward to is Charles Adams' book about European opinions of the Civil War which he's supposedly putting the finishing touches on now. According to DiLorenzo, it's probably going to be like a greatly revised version of The Glittering Illusion by Sheldon Vanauken. Adams, incidently, writes a lot about taxation, Colin, with such titles as For Good and Evil: The Impact of Taxes on the Course of Civilization and Those Dirty Rotten Taxes: The Tax Revolts That Built America. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dstripbooks%26field-keywords%3Dcharles%2520adams/104-3183223-6184728)
I haven't read Adams. I'll pick something up.

As far as "professional liars", everyone has their slant - even historians. But Clinton can say whatever he wants and then other people involved can contradict what he says - whether now or in 20 or even 50 years. I think if one is interested in the reasoning behind a certain policy, for example, it is good to read what the person who ordered it's execution has to say about it to include in the big picture. Then over time private letters, etc. will be added to the mix and a fuller picture will emerge. What's most interesting is when a politician/policy maker says something in public that is later contradicted by their personal writings.[/b][/quote]
Fair enough.

[Almighty Colin]

So which Adams book do you most recommend?

[Buff]

Originally posted by Colin@Jun 17 2004, 08:22 AM
So which Adams book do you most recommend?
I've only read pamphlet type excerpts from his Impact of Taxes book in one of my econ classes back in the day. It was good stuff, but not so good that I wanted to go out and buy the rest of the book :)

[Vick]

Clinton is giving a exclusive interview I believe to 60 minutes regarding his book

[Vick]

Originally posted by Colin@Jun 17 2004, 09:22 AM
So which Adams book do you most recommend?
Douglas Adams??? :awinky:

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by Vick+Jun 17 2004, 02:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Jun 17 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Jun 17 2004, 09:22 AM
So which Adams book do you most recommend?
Douglas Adams??? :awinky:[/b][/quote]
:lol: :okthumb:

[gregtx]

I already did... in "penthouse letters"

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Buff+Jun 17 2004, 09:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Jun 17 2004, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Jun 17 2004, 08:22 AM
So which Adams book do you most recommend?
I've only read pamphlet type excerpts from his Impact of Taxes book in one of my econ classes back in the day. It was good stuff, but not so good that I wanted to go out and buy the rest of the book :)[/b][/quote]
Damn, that's the weakest recommendation I've ever heard. ;-)

[Vick]

So Long and Thanks for all the Fish

[TheEnforcer]

Oh.. and yes i will read the book eventually.

[Biggy]

yes.

i bet if you hung out with him, he'd be another one of the "dudes."
thats what i love about clinton, hes human and isnt afraid to show it.

[Evil Chris]

Originally posted by Colin@Jun 17 2004, 09:02 AM
I will.
I'm interested... but I'll let you read it first.

I know I go on about Trudeau (and for good reason), but his memoirs are some of the best political and personal writings I've ever read.

[Rolo]

I have already forgotten what major things Clinton did? Actual I usual forget about what most polticians did, so its always good to have a book ready on the subject... Ex. these are the quotes I got, when I played "say the first quote, which is on your mind, when I name the president":

Ronald Reagan - "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
George Bush - "Read my lips...no new taxes!"
Bill Clinton - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"

and George W Bush... he still have time left to say the most memorable quote ever :D

So I guess Bill Clinton is standing out in my mind as some kind of lying perv... he would have made big bucks in the adult industry ;)

[Soul_Rebel]

probably yes

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Rolo@Jun 17 2004, 09:31 PM
I have already forgotten what major things Clinton did? Actual I usual forget about what most polticians did, so its always good to have a book ready on the subject..
Both houses were Republican in his second his term which definitely slowed his agenda. He signed many international trade agreements, managed the most balanced budget in a long time, reformed welfare and lead the NATO attack on Kosovo.

[Buff]

Originally posted by Colin@Jun 18 2004, 03:20 AM
and lead the NATO attack on Kosovo.
Too bad we were on the wrong side of that one.

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by Buff+Jun 18 2004, 05:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Jun 18 2004, 05:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Jun 18 2004, 03:20 AM
and lead the NATO attack on Kosovo.
Too bad we were on the wrong side of that one.[/b][/quote]
hows that ??

... well i guess it wouldnt have hurt having less Muslims in europe if thats what you meant :)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by slavdogg+Jun 18 2004, 05:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Jun 18 2004, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Buff@Jun 18 2004, 05:37 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Jun 18 2004, 03:20 AM
and lead the NATO attack on Kosovo.
Too bad we were on the wrong side of that one.
hows that ??

... well i guess it wouldnt have hurt having less Muslims in europe if thats what you meant :)[/b][/quote]
I'm figuring that's what he meant too.

[Buff]

The Muslims started the conflict with a separatist movement, like they do everywhere else.

[wig]

Originally posted by Biggy@Jun 17 2004, 08:44 PM
thats what i love about clinton, hes human and isnt afraid to show it.
Just ask Paula Jones. :lol:

[PeerPatrick]

Probably read the pictures, I already get most my news from FOX and Adult Swim. :salute: