Serge, one more reason to vote for Kerry

[RawAlex]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&u=/nm/20040611/pl_nm/campaign_putin_dc_1&printer=1

Putin standing up for Bush.

Now that's a good one.

Alex

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Putin is right and you fuckers are wrong
;-))))

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 11 2004, 12:20 AM
Putin standing up for Bush.
I'd rather have Kim "fuckin" Ill standing up for Kerry

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by slavdogg+Jun 11 2004, 05:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Jun 11 2004, 05:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--RawAlex@Jun 11 2004, 12:20 AM
Putin standing up for Bush.
I'd rather have Kim "fuckin" Ill standing up for Kerry[/b][/quote]


:yowsa: :yowsa: :lol:

[Biggy]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 10 2004, 09:20 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&u=/nm/20040611/pl_nm/campaign_putin_dc_1&printer=1

Putin standing up for Bush.

Now that's a good one.

Alex
Putin doesn't make a valid point -

Yugoslav was NATO, and UN Approved - Bush pretty much told the UN to go fuck itself with Iraq - thats the difference.


For Yugoslav, the ethnic cleansing was known. Saddam was bad, but we went in for WMDs. The Republican process is just dirty..

there are some similarities, but the whole process was a lot cleaner with yugoslav than with iraq.

to be honest though, Kerry sucks ass too.

[Almighty Colin]

Biggy,

Yugoslav was UN approved? Nope. Thats Putin's point. Russia would have vetoed that in the UN and didn't have the opportunity to.

I'm with Putin on this one.

[budz]

http://www.youre.nu/images/bushkerry.jpg

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Originally posted by budz@Jun 15 2004, 03:32 AM
http://www.youre.nu/images/bushkerry.jpg
hahhahahaha, that seems to be the ticket in 2004!
;-))()

[JoesHO]

but more importantly "weasle sucks " :rokk:


Oh yeah, BTW if McCain was to be vice president under kerry would that alter any of you republicans mind about taking the new direction, or would you stil like us to travel the path we are taking now?

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Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jun 15 2004, 09:01 AM
but more importantly "weasle sucks " :rokk:


Oh yeah, BTW if McCain was to be vice president under kerry would that alter any of you republicans mind about taking the new direction, or would you stil like us to travel the path we are taking now?
How about Kerry be VP of McCain?
;_))))

I might vote for thsi ticket!
;-)))

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jun 15 2004, 06:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jun 15 2004, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JoesHO1@Jun 15 2004, 09:01 AM
but more importantly "weasle sucks " :rokk:


Oh yeah, BTW if McCain was to be vice president under kerry would that alter any of you republicans mind about taking the new direction, or would you stil like us to travel the path we are taking now?
How about Kerry be VP of McCain?
;_))))

I might vote for thsi ticket!
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Yeah, but the cards are not stacked this way....

But the chatter is increasing for the ticket to be , so what do you repubs think? would this be enough to sway you away from the evil DARTH VADER that leads us to our demise now?

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Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jun 15 2004, 09:13 AM
would this be enough to sway you away from the evil DARTH VADER that leads us to our demise now?
Joe,
let's compare apples to apples:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...bc0799c82be0ff7 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=12320&s=19c051dfab938e07fbc0799c82be0ff7)

do you REALLY call this "demise"???????

answer me PLEASE,
what prevents YOU to be one of the american millionairs?

1) Bush Policies?
2) your own shortcoming?

14% increase in new millionairs in US is a VERY powerful number to deny

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jun 15 2004, 06:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jun 15 2004, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JoesHO1@Jun 15 2004, 09:13 AM
would this be enough to sway you away from the evil DARTH VADER that leads us to our demise now?
Joe,
let's compare apples to apples:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...bc0799c82be0ff7 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=12320&s=19c051dfab938e07fbc0799c82be0ff7)

do you REALLY call this "demise"???????

answer me PLEASE,
what prevents YOU to be one of the american millionairs?

1) Bush Policies?
2) your own shortcoming?

14% increase in new millionairs in US is a VERY powerful number to deny[/b][/quote]
I vote bush olicies, is what is keeping the people down.

I feel alot of the wealth that is talked about improving, has not done so.
and is complete rhetoric.

but to answear you question with complete honesty.

I do believe that choices I have made, have also been a contributing factor to my own financila affairs.

and although I am not a millinaire, I have been close, and did it before I was 30, and with out luck, or some new technology helping to fuel the pathway for me . nothing but pure hard work and tenacity is what did it.

In the demolition industry, I made close to 200K a year, for a7 year period. I foolishly spent this money on luxury items, and toys, thinking it would never run out...

I WAS WRONG!

Bush got into office, and boom down came the wall....
Myself, and many other young potential millionaires went tumbling down the hillside....

we need a leader with policies in effect that will allow for this growth pattern to once again become a reality.

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Joe, you are only human and blaming Bush, Pope, gravitational field is MUCH easier than admit and take responcibiulity for your own mistakes.

Bush gave you tax incentives, tax cuts, which coincided with low interest rates,
PERFECT ground for wealth creation.

You might not like the numbers not confirming your theories,
but they are the numbers nevertheless...

[wig]

Geez... another friggin' victim.

Anyone who adamantly holds/supports the views/policies of either Republicans or Democrats and who has a vitriol hatred for the other side as if their side is the only correct one ARE the sheep.

The world is grey and the truth is in the middle. And trying to put ones finger on this truth is a lesson in futility.

Carrie once asked me why people should not get so riled up about politics and I answered:

"Because I have more control over my life than they do."



Last edited by wig at Jun 15 2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by wig@Jun 15 2004, 10:26 AM
Geez... another friggin' victim.

Anyone who adamantly holds/supports the views/policies of either Republicans or Democrats and who has a vitriol hatred for the other side as if their side is the only correct one ARE the sheep.

The world is grey and the truth is in the middle. And trying to put ones finger on this truth is a lesson in futility.

Carrie once asked me why people should not get so riled up about politics and I answered:

"Because I have more control over my life than they do."
:okthumb:

I swear, we won't talk politics in Boca when you visit
;-))))

(unless I finally get Absinthe Nick sent ;-))))

[wig]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jun 15 2004, 10:38 AM

I swear, we won't talk politics in Boca when you visit
;-))))

(unless I finally get Absinthe Nick sent ;-))))
Serge,

From reading the experiences others have had with Absinthe, I am wondering if we will be able to talk at all. ;-))

Nevertheless, you know I am game! Look forward to the lamb chops and maybe even seeing CJ. :inlove:

Did I understand correctly you have given our room away?

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jun 15 2004, 09:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jun 15 2004, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JoesHO1@Jun 15 2004, 09:01 AM
but more importantly "weasle sucks " :rokk:


Oh yeah, BTW if McCain was to be vice president under kerry would that alter any of you republicans mind about taking the new direction, or would you stil like us to travel the path we are taking now?
How about Kerry be VP of McCain?
;_))))

I might vote for thsi ticket!
;-)))[/b][/quote]
I would vote for that ticket without hesitation!



Last edited by SykkBoy at Jun 15 2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by wig+Jun 15 2004, 11:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Jun 15 2004, 11:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Jun 15 2004, 10:38 AM

I swear, we won't talk politics in Boca when you visit
;-))))

(unless I finally get Absinthe Nick sent ;-))))
Serge,

From reading the experiences others have had with Absinthe, I am wondering if we will be able to talk at all. ;-))

Nevertheless, you know I am game! Look forward to the lamb chops and maybe even seeing CJ. :inlove:

Did I understand correctly you have given our room away?[/b][/quote]
nope, you got it ALL wrong!!!

1) your room is reserved for you and will be kept in pristine condition, including built in cameras
;-))

2) with Absinthe you DO talk, and talk a LOT, including to people who aren't there!
;-))))

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P.S. Sue just corrected me:
Absinthe still hasn't arrived, so don't count your hullusinations BEFORE they hatch
;-)))

[Mike AI]

Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.

[wig]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jun 15 2004, 11:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jun 15 2004, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -wig@Jun 15 2004, 11:04 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Jun 15 2004, 10:38 AM

I swear, we won't talk politics in Boca when you visit
;-))))

(unless I finally get Absinthe Nick sent ;-))))
Serge,

From reading the experiences others have had with Absinthe, I am wondering if we will be able to talk at all. ;-))

Nevertheless, you know I am game! Look forward to the lamb chops and maybe even seeing CJ. :inlove:

Did I understand correctly you have given our room away?
nope, you got it ALL wrong!!!

1) your room is reserved for you and will be kept in pristine condition, including built in cameras
;-))

2) with Absinthe you DO talk, and talk a LOT, including to people who aren't there!
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Then I look forward to rambling on... we can talk about food, wine and gardening!

[wig]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 15 2004, 11:26 AM
Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.
Mike,

What do you attribute Clinton's economic success to?

I think you give Presidents WAY too much credit for economic conditions.

[wig]

It's a hard question to answer, huh?

One other point... I am no economist, but I wonder how much of the war actually impeded the economy.

Perhaps the spending actually helped it some??

Of course an argument can be made that the increasing deficits will have longer-term effects with interest rates and the dollar, but that does not help your argument either.

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Originally posted by wig+Jun 15 2004, 11:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Jun 15 2004, 11:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 15 2004, 11:26 AM
Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.
Mike,

What do you attribute Clinton's economic success to?

I think you give Presidents WAY too much credit for economic conditions.[/b][/quote]
hahahahahahahaha,
Economy is an animal which can do well DESPITE of the President's attempts to the contrary
;-)))

[wig]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jun 15 2004, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jun 15 2004, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -wig@Jun 15 2004, 11:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 15 2004, 11:26 AM
Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.
Mike,

What do you attribute Clinton's economic success to?

I think you give Presidents WAY too much credit for economic conditions.
hahahahahahahaha,
Economy is an animal which can do well DESPITE of the President's attempts to the contrary
;-)))[/b][/quote]
ah hahaha exactly!

[JoesHO]

Originally posted by wig+Jun 15 2004, 11:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Jun 15 2004, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Jun 15 2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by -wig@Jun 15 2004, 11:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 15 2004, 11:26 AM
Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.
Mike,

What do you attribute Clinton's economic success to?

I think you give Presidents WAY too much credit for economic conditions.
hahahahahahahaha,
Economy is an animal which can do well DESPITE of the President's attempts to the contrary
;-)))
ah hahaha exactly![/b][/quote]
But only since it followed a strong economy, that created wealth for the ones smarter than me that made it but invested it instead of played with it. those are the investments that are paying off in todays economy, now that they have endured . but it was their time in the beginning that set their foundation, and that was created by the policy of urban development, and the wealth it created.

funny how it was shitty when the last bush was in, but they said it took until clinton got into office for the reaganomics fiasco to set in.....

but yet, they say then it was good during his time, then immiediatly after that he ruined it , now it is shitty again..... hmmmmm how does that work out?

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Joe, this is how it works:
my income declined 90% during Bush's JR. era....

should I join the chorus and blame Bush, low interst rates, oversupply of free porn?

NOPE, it's all MY fault and NOBODY's else.

PLEASE, learn to accept responcibility for YOUR actions,
and you will no longer be anybody's puppet.

[wig]

Originally posted by JoesHO1+Jun 15 2004, 05:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ Jun 15 2004, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -wig@Jun 15 2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Jun 15 2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by -wig@Jun 15 2004, 11:30 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 15 2004, 11:26 AM
Bush's economic policies has helped this Nation enjoy a growing economy even while in a war, and with unstable oil prices.

My only problem with Bush is creating more gov't handouts, and not cutting some spending.

Bottom line is Bush's tax cuts have worked.
Mike,

What do you attribute Clinton's economic success to?

I think you give Presidents WAY too much credit for economic conditions.
hahahahahahahaha,
Economy is an animal which can do well DESPITE of the President's attempts to the contrary
;-)))
ah hahaha exactly!
But only since it followed a strong economy, that created wealth for the ones smarter than me that made it but invested it instead of played with it. those are the investments that are paying off in todays economy, now that they have endured . but it was their time in the beginning that set their foundation, and that was created by the policy of urban development, and the wealth it created.

funny how it was shitty when the last bush was in, but they said it took until clinton got into office for the reaganomics fiasco to set in.....

but yet, they say then it was good during his time, then immiediatly after that he ruined it , now it is shitty again..... hmmmmm how does that work out?[/b][/quote]
Joe,

I read your post three times and I have no idea what your point was.

The fact is that economic cycles come and go and how they land on any presidents tenure is just coincidence.

That was my point to Mike.

He cannot explain Clintons succes anymore than you can explain your failure.