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FightThePatent
06-07-2004, 04:52 PM
Read there: http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/ClassAction.html

Post here.



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RawAlex
06-07-2004, 04:55 PM
Berman and his bunch of crooks can come to Canada and kiss my white ass.

Alex

FightThePatent
06-07-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 7 2004, 01:03 PM
Berman and his bunch of crooks can come to Canada and kiss my white ass.

Alex
Acacia seems to have stayed away from Canada. Both adult and mainstream companies have been contacting me from canada.. and judging by observations, Canadians have been left alone.

I haven't found out why there are no patents filed in canada, but acacia is going strong in Mexico whether they did file a patent.


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Mike AI
06-07-2004, 05:11 PM
This is a revere class action, and I do not see how any judge would allow it to be filed. There are too many different interests to protect.

FightThePatent
06-07-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 7 2004, 01:19 PM
This is a revere class action, and I do not see how any judge would allow it to be filed. There are too many different interests to protect.

The way Acacia is trying to define the class, is all those sites that carry a 2257 page for their video content.

The problem, as Spike pointed out, is that there are many ways to do your video (encoding, transmission, etc), that it's hard to just lump a bunch of websites together.

This is clearly their move to put the patent on porn.

If the judge approves the class action, then it will be interesting to see how each affected webste will react to it.... continuing to ignore everything, or join the defense group (ie. putting in $$$).

I agree with you Mike, a class action like this should be very hard to get approved because of the diversity.

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Mike AI
06-07-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by FightThePatent+Jun 7 2004, 04:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FightThePatent @ Jun 7 2004, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 7 2004, 01:19 PM
This is a revere class action, and I do not see how any judge would allow it to be filed. There are too many different interests to protect.

The way Acacia is trying to define the class, is all those sites that carry a 2257 page for their video content.

The problem, as Spike pointed out, is that there are many ways to do your video (encoding, transmission, etc), that it's hard to just lump a bunch of websites together.

This is clearly their move to put the patent on porn.

If the judge approves the class action, then it will be interesting to see how each affected webste will react to it.... continuing to ignore everything, or join the defense group (ie. putting in $$$).

I agree with you Mike, a class action like this should be very hard to get approved because of the diversity.

Fight the Patent Tax![/b][/quote]
Traditional class actions where there is one defendant and many plantiff's is difficult to get certified. Reverse class action where there is one plantiff, and many defenants are almost unheard of.

I personally see this as Acacia grasping for straws....

JoesHO
06-07-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Jun 7 2004, 01:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jun 7 2004, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -FightThePatent@Jun 7 2004, 04:24 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jun 7 2004, 01:19 PM
This is a revere class action, and I do not see how any judge would allow it to be filed. There are too many different interests to protect.

The way Acacia is trying to define the class, is all those sites that carry a 2257 page for their video content.

The problem, as Spike pointed out, is that there are many ways to do your video (encoding, transmission, etc), that it's hard to just lump a bunch of websites together.

This is clearly their move to put the patent on porn.

If the judge approves the class action, then it will be interesting to see how each affected webste will react to it.... continuing to ignore everything, or join the defense group (ie. putting in $$$).

I agree with you Mike, a class action like this should be very hard to get approved because of the diversity.

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Traditional class actions where there is one defendant and many plantiff's is difficult to get certified. Reverse class action where there is one plantiff, and many defenants are almost unheard of.

I personally see this as Acacia grasping for straws....[/b][/quote]
I agree with you, Mike....

they are swinging for the fence, hoping to get a ground rule double out of it, in compromise...

a decent ,expected, Lawyering manouver....

hell they sent me an early settlement letter, and I have never even ran video on my site.....

Winetalk.com
06-07-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Jun 7 2004, 04:19 PM
This is a revere class action, and I do not see how any judge would allow it to be filed. There are too many different interests to protect.
plus...there was a president, where Judge saw the reverse action law suit as a ploy to deny COURTS the filing fees and rob the system.

Mr. Berman, good luck.
Your attempt to rob the US Judicial system of it's due revenues will fail and I allow you to quote me on that.
;-)))

RawAlex
06-07-2004, 06:55 PM
The funniest one? Berman and his auto-mailing minions actually sent early settlement letters to me in Canada... to two names that NEVER existed in any of my companies.

Letters sent into a jurisdiction where they have no patents, to names that don't exist, to a company that doesn't run any of it's own video on websites.

These guys have no filter for information, lack disclosure to their shareholders, and have not come forward to explain why they haven't signed even 25 licenses in 2004 (last I heard, they were up to 120 something... they were at 100 at the end of 2003).

They are, however, doing a good job at paying themselves. That much is clear from the financial statements.

Hopefully the courts can see the desperation on their moves and throw it all out.

Alex

cj
06-07-2004, 08:01 PM
what a laugh!!!!

this company reminds me of lots of porn companies these days ... "oh fuck it, why should we work when we can just take other people's work?!?!?"

haven't heard of anyone in australia getting letters ... i've been waiting to ignore mine for a whole year! :rolleyes: