Rome

[MikeFold]

OK...
So my kid is graduated...and he would like to go to Rome, Italy.
I am considering the Sheraton Roma...
Since I know there is a "Frequent Flyer" that hangs around here,
I am looking for any advice on the City, and "stuff" I should know.
(I am not going, just him and his mom and my daughter)

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Originally posted by MikeFold@Jun 7 2004, 07:08 AM
OK...
So my kid is graduated...and he would like to go to Rome, Italy.
I am considering the Sheraton Roma...
Since I know there is a "Frequent Flyer" that hangs around here,
I am looking for any advice on the City, and "stuff" I should know.
(I am not going, just him and his mom and my daughter)
1) how long are they staying there?

2) what is the budget?

[MikeFold]

7-8 days

there may be a fourth person (his girlfriend)
so I am trying to be frugal
They do not expect 5 star or to be pampered.
:)

Right now I have Continental @978 each
and the Roma is 175 EU per night.

Close to all the tourist stuff.

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Originally posted by MikeFold@Jun 7 2004, 07:29 AM
7-8 days

there may be a fourth person (his girlfriend)
so I am trying to be frugal
They do not expect 5 star or to be pampered.
:)

Right now I have Continental @978 each
and the Roma is 175 EU per night.

Close to all the tourist stuff.
in this case, it pays to rent an apartment instead of the hotel.
We stayed at
http://www.romeholidays.net/eng/pantheoneng.htm
last year,
more than plenty for 2 , good for 3,
in the dead center of the city
you can get them something bigger though. You are paying for 4 for a week what you'd be paying for EACH at the hotel
;-)

here is another option
http://www.affordabletours.com/Globus_Tour..._Claridge).html (http://www.affordabletours.com/Globus_Tours/Italy/Globus_A_Week_in_Rome_(Hotel_Claridge).html)
if they need guides and tours included
which is about what you would pay at the hotel per each, but this one included breakfasts and sightseengs

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Originally posted by MikeFold@Jun 7 2004, 07:29 AM

Right now I have Continental @978 each

for this kind of money I would expect blow jobs to be included
;-)))

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you can also give me a call and I'll fill you in on EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about Rome but were affraid to ask
;-))))

museums, attractions, art galleries, places to see outside of town,
"granda putana" info is NOT included
;-)))

[MikeFold]

Thanks Serge......

I will check them out.
I will be in the office later for awhile.

:D

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here is another option:
http://www.affordabletours.com/Trafalgar_T...lian_Dream.html (http://www.affordabletours.com/Trafalgar_Tours/Cost_Saver/Trafalgar_Italian_Dream.html)
show the entire Nothern Italy for less than just staying in Rome at Continental

word of advice:
never buy their air,
you can ALWAYS find better deals on your own on Orbitz

[Jesse_DD]

Mike - I was there not too long ago - I really recommend hanging around the colleseum and then joining some free tours. If you hang around the Collesuem/Forum area you'll see people marketing themselves. I ran into this one girl with a masters in art history and she was amazing. They try to upsell you on another paid tour (which we did and was well worth it - but there is certainly no pressure to do so).

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Originally posted by Jesse_DD@Jun 7 2004, 08:14 AM
Mike - I was there not too long ago - I really recommend hanging around the colleseum and then joining some free tours. If you hang around the Collesuem/Forum area you'll see people marketing themselves. I ran into this one girl with a masters in art history and she was amazing. They try to upsell you on another paid tour (which we did and was well worth it - but there is certainly no pressure to do so).
Jesse, I concur, those freebs are quite humorous and entertaining!
;-)

[MikeFold]

thx jesse...

is there enough to do for a 7 day stint focusing on just Rome?
(comparing the 2 serge referred to aboce)

[Mike AI]

If you are going to stay that long in one place, and do not need room service going with a flat or apartment is definately the way to go.

You end up paying much less, and get a better feel of the sourroundings.

You will have fun Mike!!

[MikeFold]

Hey Mike....
good to see ya....

I am not going unfortunately....
Its my kids grad present before he goes to active duty in August....

I am sending him, his girlfriend, his mom and my 16 year old daughter.

I'd go, but it might not go over to well with the current gal...
:matey:

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by MikeFold@Jun 7 2004, 11:10 AM
Hey Mike....
good to see ya....

I am not going unfortunately....
Its my kids grad present before he goes to active duty in August....

I am sending him, his girlfriend, his mom and my 16 year old daughter.

I'd go, but it might not go over to well with the current gal...
:matey:
Wow you are generous! Wanna send Katie and I to keep an eye on them?

Many of the great old Roman Buildings were built when you were younger - I figured you would go see....

:P

[aeon]

Wear this shirt (http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a127) if you visit the vatican.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by aeon@Jun 7 2004, 11:41 AM
Wear this shirt (http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a127) if you visit the vatican.
It is amazing the Pope continues to slam moral decay of the US ( he has some points), however he has refused to crack down and come clean with all the pedophiles in the church, and how the church has protected them from prosecution. Many times the church moved priests who abused kinds to another parish, and did not notify the parents at all.

It is shameful conduct, and they try to sweep it under the rug!

I used to like John Paul II, he was good during the cold war - but I ost respect when he did not send out a clear message about priests molesting kids.

[Jesse_DD]

Mike - My opinion is that I wouldn't do Rome for just 7 days. I think 4 days is probably enough. I think that Rome itself is good for 2 - 3 days and then you can have them do Pompei (Pompey).

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Originally posted by Jesse_DD@Jun 7 2004, 11:54 AM
Mike - My opinion is that I wouldn't do Rome for just 7 days. I think 4 days is probably enough. I think that Rome itself is good for 2 - 3 days and then you can have them do Pompei (Pompey).
Jesse,
3 days for Rome?????

want me complie the list of things you haven't seen in Rome?

it will be 10 times bigger than what you did see
;-)))

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things you won't see in 3 days:
1) http://www.galleriaborghese.it/borghese/en...en/edefault.htm (http://www.galleriaborghese.it/borghese/en/edefault.htm)

2) http://www.nycerome.com/sights-of-rome/vil...rt-gallery.html (http://www.nycerome.com/sights-of-rome/villa-borghese-area/national-modern-art-gallery.html)

3) http://www.sobi.org/photos/places/Rome/Castle/

4) Jewish Quarters

5) Via Venetto (where US Embassy is located)

and the rest of 363 places worth visiting:
http://rome-hotels.tripadvisor.com/Attract...Rome_Lazio.html (http://rome-hotels.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g187791-Activities-Rome_Lazio.html)

[BradShaw]

MikeFold I will be in Rome in a few days. Going there for 6 days, will also visit Florence. When I get back I will email you my thoughts from this pain in the ass traveler.

In Cannes right now, like it a lot better than Paris so far. I am not a great tourist.

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weasel, you are not great anything,
you don't have to remind us

[aeon]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jun 7 2004, 08:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jun 7 2004, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--aeon@Jun 7 2004, 11:41 AM
Wear this shirt (http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a127) if you visit the vatican.
It is amazing the Pope continues to slam moral decay of the US ( he has some points), however he has refused to crack down and come clean with all the pedophiles in the church, and how the church has protected them from prosecution. Many times the church moved priests who abused kinds to another parish, and did not notify the parents at all.

It is shameful conduct, and they try to sweep it under the rug!

I used to like John Paul II, he was good during the cold war - but I ost respect when he did not send out a clear message about priests molesting kids.[/b][/quote]
Religious authorities, just like political ones, can never admit fallibility - that diminishes the "institution's" basis for self-justification. Even when dealing with apologetics, etc., - the institution is never wrong, only the human application of that institution...the innate truth of the doctrine/institution has to stand.

[Jesse_DD]

Sergie - I agree that one could spend that much time there - especially as an art lover, but most people (especially with kids) aren't going to want to look at that many museums/art for 7 straight days.

Mike - I would certainly recommend the Vatican for 1/2 day - full day as well (Probably better not to go on Sunday - busy busy). Try to get a tour if possible. I didn't do Pompei - but I would imagine that is pretty cool.

[Jesse_DD]

Mike - if you want the name of the company and woman that we used for tours just email me and I'll dig up the info for you.

jesse@pleasurelabs.com

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by aeon+Jun 7 2004, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (aeon @ Jun 7 2004, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Jun 7 2004, 08:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--aeon@Jun 7 2004, 11:41 AM
Wear this shirt (http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a127) if you visit the vatican.
It is amazing the Pope continues to slam moral decay of the US ( he has some points), however he has refused to crack down and come clean with all the pedophiles in the church, and how the church has protected them from prosecution. Many times the church moved priests who abused kinds to another parish, and did not notify the parents at all.

It is shameful conduct, and they try to sweep it under the rug!

I used to like John Paul II, he was good during the cold war - but I ost respect when he did not send out a clear message about priests molesting kids.
Religious authorities, just like political ones, can never admit fallibility - that diminishes the "institution's" basis for self-justification. Even when dealing with apologetics, etc., - the institution is never wrong, only the human application of that institution...the innate truth of the doctrine/institution has to stand.[/b][/quote]
I understand this, but their is no Church doctrine promoting preists who molest kids. The Church lost a lot by not addressing this correctly.

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Originally posted by Jesse_DD@Jun 7 2004, 02:46 PM
Sergie - I agree that one could spend that much time there - especially as an art lover, but most people (especially with kids) aren't going to want to look at that many museums/art for 7 straight days.

Mike - I would certainly recommend the Vatican for 1/2 day - full day as well (Probably better not to go on Sunday - busy busy). Try to get a tour if possible. I didn't do Pompei - but I would imagine that is pretty cool.
Pompei is something unforgettable!

The frescoes alone of the guy with dick bigger than mine at the whore house do worth a trip and...probably would be tax deductuble for webmasters in thsi industry
;-)))

http://www.planetware.com/imageswb/photos/I/PMP7.JPG


http://www.archart.it/archart/italia/campania/pompei/Vettii/vettii1/vettii09.jpg

[aeon]

What's wrong is the institutional denial and hiding. How can you have a self justifying authority/institution that is institutionally flawed...? Apologists are gonna have a bitch of time with this one.

[gilgy]

I would check out Alitalia website if you haven't already. They have some pretty good 7 to 21 day packages that might suit you.

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Originally posted by gilgy@Jun 7 2004, 04:07 PM
I would check out Alitalia website if you haven't already. They have some pretty good 7 to 21 day packages that might suit you.
http://www.italiatourusa.com/
is the URL

[grimm]

Originally posted by MikeFold@Jun 7 2004, 04:08 AM
OK...
So my kid is graduated...and he would like to go to Rome, Italy.
I am considering the Sheraton Roma...
Since I know there is a "Frequent Flyer" that hangs around here,
I am looking for any advice on the City, and "stuff" I should know.
(I am not going, just him and his mom and my daughter)
find one with showers, and freezers, and a good barber:)

[gonzo]

Don't ask the weasel. For a guy supposed to be making all that money he didn't even know if his atm card would work in paris.

Proves a couple of things I guess
1. I guess you don't know anything about such matters if you aint never been anywhere.

2. Class and good taste can't be bought.

Guess its better to stick with what ya know when you don't know any better....a can of nipple cheese/cheeze whiz and a nice bottle of boones farm country quencher.... Goes perfect with your leased ferarri and louis vitton purse.