PDA

View Full Version : Do you know Boldy ?


sarettah
05-11-2004, 03:51 PM
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...t=0#entry145103 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s=5905dc1eb0814035a0598c0adc5a2a1f&act=ST&f=1&t=11632&st=0#entry145103)

He told me to ask around and at Oprano, you usually get what you asked for.

Peaches
05-11-2004, 04:32 PM
AFAIK I've never heard of him - unless he's gone by a different moniker at some point. Then again, I don't exactly know everyone. :P

sarettah
05-11-2004, 06:59 PM
Only 3 votes so far.but none of them know Boldy yet..

Hmmmm...

Opti
05-11-2004, 10:25 PM
Sar, he has been around for a while... about 3 years I think.. he was involved with a site called freetgpsubmitter.com

I think the TGP community would know the name pretty well.. I don't know if he can be trusted or not personally.. but from what I have seen of him I am very impressed with his ideas.

BTW.. I have tested out remotethumbs in a small way.. I have logged what they are transferring and dont have any major concerns about security based on my poking about.

I dont run TGP sites but if I did, this is an awesome tool for anyone running an all thumbs tgp imho. I added a TGP section to this site to test how it converts http://www.sleekssickestporn.com/galleries/ .. there was no way I would have bothered if I had to maintain data for 1200 new thumbnails and hosted gallery links that change every day.

gonzo
05-11-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by sarettah@May 11 2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...t=0#entry145103 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s=5905dc1eb0814035a0598c0adc5a2a1f&act=ST&f=1&t=11632&st=0#entry145103)

He told me to ask around and at Oprano, you usually get what you asked for.
Sar...

I talked to Joe breifly about this program. I have seen the same thing a few years ago. Id test it out on a box that I didnt have anything crucial on and see how it worked. As I recall the other program worksed pretty cool.

sarettah
05-11-2004, 10:34 PM
Hey Opti, Gonz :)

I have no real problem with the program. I run a similar script of my own for myself (without any directories at 777 permissions of course).

I have no real problem with Boldy.

But, it is pretty damn bold to come here and clain that we should trust his program because it is him and I have never heard of him.

That is the only reason for this poll.

Opti
05-11-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by sarettah@May 12 2004, 12:42 PM
But, it is pretty damn bold to come here and clain that we should trust his program because it is him and I have never heard of him.

ROFL... I guess the nick suits him then ;-)))))

nothing wrong with the poll btw.

Trev
05-12-2004, 03:48 AM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<

johndoughs
05-12-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by johndoughs+May 12 2004, 10:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johndoughs @ May 12 2004, 10:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.[/b][/quote]
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

We appreciate the feedback, though however as it gives us some more ideas to improve the experience for our user base too.

But just because someone is or is not a known name does not have any effect on their skill levels ( you know this already though)

and since you know what you are doing as a programmer, then anylize the program for what it is, and on it's merrits, and how they will effect you.

How long someone has been on a board, or who they are known by is really quite irrelevant to how something works.

Mike AI
05-12-2004, 04:12 PM
Never heard of Boldy.

Any software that leaves your server open is going to be suspicious. I would never let any 3rd party have long term access to my servers.

It is common sense.

I have met Joesho, I like him a lot, but I still would not put any software on my machine that others can control remotely, etc...

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@May 12 2004, 12:20 PM
Never heard of Boldy.

Any software that leaves your server open is going to be suspicious. I would never let any 3rd party have long term access to my servers.

It is common sense.

I have met Joesho, I like him a lot, but I still would not put any software on my machine that others can control remotely, etc...
Thank you mike., I have two questions for you
1.)What about as a program owner, do you think it is good to be a sponsor and work remote thumbs from that end?

2.) like has been said if working it from the other end you are able to get useage and money from a small or medium size TGP that you otherwise would not be using due to time constraints, would it not be be benificial for use in that capacity?

if you have a large TGP in running, then maybe you would have these concerns become a little more prvelant to you.

but for the newre guys, or people interested in growing, but are not flush with manpower resouces or people that want to use their valuable time to build other aspects of their business this tool is a godsend. and could possibly make the difference in wether they grow, or wether they get the cold shoulder from people cause they are not sending them enough sign ups.

Mike AI
05-12-2004, 04:33 PM
Joe there could be a use for your product from smaller people trying to get in. However, many times these people do not have much cash and probably tend to fail pretty quickly.

Do you want to hitch your future on these people?

I am far from an expert on TGP, its a difficult racket and gets more confusing everyday. So my opinion on specific TGP issues is probably not worth much.

I however stand by my stance on not putting software on my servers that can be controled by other people.

boldy
05-12-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@May 12 2004, 12:20 PM
Never heard of Boldy.

Any software that leaves your server open is going to be suspicious. I would never let any 3rd party have long term access to my servers.

It is common sense.

I have met Joesho, I like him a lot, but I still would not put any software on my machine that others can control remotely, etc...
90% of the people bashin it here didnt even signup to have a look how it really works. The remote server is not wide open. Its a cgi-script on your server which need to write to a certain directory which has to be 777, just because most apache servers run as nobody and can't do jack shit on the filesystem.

Second you have to put a password in our interface which is generated on the script you have to upload. These passwords have to match.

You can rename the script to any name you want. name it ajskhjasASDASasdjkashdka893489273myass.cgi and a hacker will have a hard time finding it.

The script is a readable perl script, feel free to analyze it and see for yourself we dont have any intentions of cheating on our clients.

Thanks,

B.

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@May 12 2004, 12:41 PM
Joe there could be a use for your product from smaller people trying to get in. However, many times these people do not have much cash and probably tend to fail pretty quickly.

Do you want to hitch your future on these people?

I am far from an expert on TGP, its a difficult racket and gets more confusing everyday. So my opinion on specific TGP issues is probably not worth much.

I however stand by my stance on not putting software on my servers that can be controled by other people.
How about as a program owner, do you think it is good to be one of the sponsors, that we send the traffic we get to?

sarettah
05-12-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by boldy+May 12 2004, 03:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (boldy @ May 12 2004, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@May 12 2004, 12:20 PM
Never heard of Boldy.

Any software that leaves your server open is going to be suspicious. I would never let any 3rd party have long term access to my servers.

It is common sense.

I have met Joesho, I like him a lot, but I still would not put any software on my machine that others can control remotely, etc...
90% of the people bashin it here didnt even signup to have a look how it really works. The remote server is not wide open. Its a cgi-script on your server which need to write to a certain directory which has to be 777, just because most apache servers run as nobody and can't do jack shit on the filesystem.

Second you have to put a password in our interface which is generated on the script you have to upload. These passwords have to match.

You can rename the script to any name you want. name it ajskhjasASDASasdjkashdka893489273myass.cgi and a hacker will have a hard time finding it.

The script is a readable perl script, feel free to analyze it and see for yourself we dont have any intentions of cheating on our clients.

Thanks,

B.[/b][/quote]
Whoa whoa whoa......

I have not seen anybody in this thread or the other thread "Bash" the program. I did see them raise reasonable concerns and saw them state exactly what those concerns were.

If you want to survive here on Oprano, don't take offense first of all. Secondly, address the concerns.

Here you will for sure get honest opinions and if we start bashing either you or the program, you won't be able to miss it. :okthumb:

sarettah
05-12-2004, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by johndoughs@May 12 2004, 01:23 PM
If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

Nobody that I have seen has said not to trust it or the people involved. The people responding stated they themselves would not trust it and stated their reasons, if you would bother to read both this and the original thread. I haven't seen any piss start spewing yet.

Believe me, if anyone around here starts getting pissy, you will know it, for sure..................... :okthumb:

sarettah
05-12-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 03:17 PM
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

Joesho, you've been here how long ??? We can play down in the gutter with the best of them, in fact most of the time we can play down in the sewer better than the best of them.......... :yowsa:

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by sarettah+May 12 2004, 01:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ May 12 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -boldy@May 12 2004, 03:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@May 12 2004, 12:20 PM
Never heard of Boldy.

Any software that leaves your server open is going to be suspicious. I would never let any 3rd party have long term access to my servers.

It is common sense.

I have met Joesho, I like him a lot, but I still would not put any software on my machine that others can control remotely, etc...
90% of the people bashin it here didnt even signup to have a look how it really works. The remote server is not wide open. Its a cgi-script on your server which need to write to a certain directory which has to be 777, just because most apache servers run as nobody and can't do jack shit on the filesystem.

Second you have to put a password in our interface which is generated on the script you have to upload. These passwords have to match.

You can rename the script to any name you want. name it ajskhjasASDASasdjkashdka893489273myass.cgi and a hacker will have a hard time finding it.

The script is a readable perl script, feel free to analyze it and see for yourself we dont have any intentions of cheating on our clients.

Thanks,

B.
Whoa whoa whoa......

I have not seen anybody in this thread or the other thread "Bash" the program. I did see them raise reasonable concerns and saw them state exactly what those concerns were.

If you want to survive here on Oprano, don't take offense first of all. Secondly, address the concerns.

Here you will for sure get honest opinions and if we start bashing either you or the program, you won't be able to miss it. :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Boldy is new here at Oprano, and has gotten used to the GFY ways of discussion, and has spent long hard hours working on a product he is very proud of, so he of course is going to be a little extra defensive when looking as if his program was getting panned I believe was the term used .

but if you read that post, then did you give any credence to it, and look at the program in depth for yourself, to see if those safty issues are covered, at least attempted to be covered, and if not fully covered after your personal review, then please tell us where we need to strengthen our system.

again I have said many times before! I believe you to be an intelligent person , and respect your POV quite often, ( even if at times I disagree with it)

Winetalk.com
05-12-2004, 08:07 PM
can we see the tits now?
;-)))

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@May 12 2004, 04:15 PM
can we see the tits now?
;-)))
do you have the $20.00 for the lap dance fee? :D

sarettah
05-12-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 04:45 PM
Boldy is new here at Oprano, and has gotten used to the GFY ways of discussion, and has spent long hard hours working on a product he is very proud of, so he of course is going to be a little extra defensive when looking as if his program was getting panned I believe was the term used .

but if you read that post, then did you give any credence to it, and look at the program in depth for yourself, to see if those safty issues are covered, at least attempted to be covered, and if not fully covered after your personal review, then please tell us where we need to strengthen our system.

again I have said many times before! I believe you to be an intelligent person , and respect your POV quite often, ( even if at times I disagree with it)
I have no problem with any of that Joesho and in fact, if I find some time to play I might even dl a copy and give it a test.

But, as you are aware I am sure, you don't come into Oprano and try to tell folks here to trust something based on the person who worked on it's reputation or lack thereof.

You came in looking for honest opinions, it looks like you have gotten some.

I am sure Boldy put a lot of heart and soul into the product (as a programmer I understand that completely) but if he is gonna survive over here he needs to grow a touch thicker skin.

imho of course

btw, it might have gotten missed in the other thread, but the user docs need some work. The copy I dl'd didn't show very many of the graphics of the screenshots etc. If I may suggest, convert them over to html and hang em off the site to be perused. It would save the time of a dl and give better control of the graphics.

JoesHO
05-12-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by sarettah+May 12 2004, 05:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ May 12 2004, 05:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 04:45 PM
Boldy is new here at Oprano, and has gotten used to the GFY ways of discussion, and has spent long hard hours working on a product he is very proud of, so he of course is going to be a little extra defensive when looking as if his program was getting panned I believe was the term used .

but if you read that post, then did you give any credence to it, and look at the program in depth for yourself, to see if those safty issues are covered, at least attempted to be covered, and if not fully covered after your personal review, then please tell us where we need to strengthen our system.

again I have said many times before! I believe you to be an intelligent person , and respect your POV quite often, ( even if at times I disagree with it)
I have no problem with any of that Joesho and in fact, if I find some time to play I might even dl a copy and give it a test.

But, as you are aware I am sure, you don't come into Oprano and try to tell folks here to trust something based on the person who worked on it's reputation or lack thereof.

You came in looking for honest opinions, it looks like you have gotten some.

I am sure Boldy put a lot of heart and soul into the product (as a programmer I understand that completely) but if he is gonna survive over here he needs to grow a touch thicker skin.

imho of course

btw, it might have gotten missed in the other thread, but the user docs need some work. The copy I dl'd didn't show very many of the graphics of the screenshots etc. If I may suggest, convert them over to html and hang em off the site to be perused. It would save the time of a dl and give better control of the graphics.[/b][/quote]
Thank you, and I definatly appreciate your time.

Boldy will get the hang of it here.

I also appreciate all of the feedback that we were able to recieve today.

Trev
05-13-2004, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by johndoughs+May 12 2004, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (johndoughs @ May 12 2004, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.[/b][/quote]
Just back the bus up a second!

I only stated that I don't know Boldy... he could be the second coming for all I know but I don't know him.

Also show me where I started a "piss" about remotethumbs!?

I merely stated that I don't trust them and I believe I've explained why... no piss just my opinion.




For the newbies this might be the perfect program, but I just think if your going to be so lazy with your business that you'll use this program then your doomed to fail anyway!

Trev
05-13-2004, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by JoesHO1+May 12 2004, 10:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ May 12 2004, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -johndoughs@May 12 2004, 10:23 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

We appreciate the feedback, though however as it gives us some more ideas to improve the experience for our user base too.

But just because someone is or is not a known name does not have any effect on their skill levels ( you know this already though)

and since you know what you are doing as a programmer, then anylize the program for what it is, and on it's merrits, and how they will effect you.

How long someone has been on a board, or who they are known by is really quite irrelevant to how something works.[/b][/quote]
High road!?!?... not sure how that one works.

You asked for opinions and I gave you mine!

If you don't like it don't ask!

JoesHO
05-13-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Trev+May 12 2004, 11:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ May 12 2004, 11:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by -johndoughs@May 12 2004, 10:23 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

We appreciate the feedback, though however as it gives us some more ideas to improve the experience for our user base too.

But just because someone is or is not a known name does not have any effect on their skill levels ( you know this already though)

and since you know what you are doing as a programmer, then anylize the program for what it is, and on it's merrits, and how they will effect you.

How long someone has been on a board, or who they are known by is really quite irrelevant to how something works.
High road!?!?... not sure how that one works.

You asked for opinions and I gave you mine!

If you don't like it don't ask![/b][/quote]
I apreciate your opinion Trev, it just is taken with a grain of salt, unless you actually try the program, before you point out any percieved fualts you may or may not find with it.

we have dilligently tried to adress the security issues you have raised, and unless you REALLY look at it deep rather than on the surface you would not, and could not know that.

So you are right I asked for oinions, and I want them. ( but I would actually like them from people that looked at the program first)

if you look at it, and still have some security concerns, then by all means please tell me what those are in YOUR opinion- that is what I am asking for.

Trev
05-13-2004, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by JoesHO1+May 13 2004, 04:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ May 13 2004, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Trev@May 12 2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by -JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by -johndoughs@May 12 2004, 10:23 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

We appreciate the feedback, though however as it gives us some more ideas to improve the experience for our user base too.

But just because someone is or is not a known name does not have any effect on their skill levels ( you know this already though)

and since you know what you are doing as a programmer, then anylize the program for what it is, and on it's merrits, and how they will effect you.

How long someone has been on a board, or who they are known by is really quite irrelevant to how something works.
High road!?!?... not sure how that one works.

You asked for opinions and I gave you mine!

If you don't like it don't ask!
I apreciate your opinion Trev, it just is taken with a grain of salt, unless you actually try the program, before you point out any percieved fualts you may or may not find with it.

we have dilligently tried to adress the security issues you have raised, and unless you REALLY look at it deep rather than on the surface you would not, and could not know that.

So you are right I asked for oinions, and I want them. ( but I would actually like them from people that looked at the program first)

if you look at it, and still have some security concerns, then by all means please tell me what those are in YOUR opinion- that is what I am asking for.[/b][/quote]
I did look at it as you say, I signed up for an account.

I took a good look around and I still feel that I would prefer to run my own ship with my own scripts and my server locked up nice and tight, thank you.

JoesHO
05-13-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Trev+May 13 2004, 06:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ May 13 2004, 06:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -JoesHO1@May 13 2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by -Trev@May 12 2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by -JoesHO1@May 12 2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by -johndoughs@May 12 2004, 10:23 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Trev@May 11 2004, 11:56 PM
I've never heard of him and I still don't trust remotethumbs <_<
Why not trust remote thumbs?

I use them on 4 sites and think its a great program.

If you dont like it dont use it, but why start a pissing contest saying not to trust them?

seems pretty childish to me.
Amen, I thought people here always took the high road.

We appreciate the feedback, though however as it gives us some more ideas to improve the experience for our user base too.

But just because someone is or is not a known name does not have any effect on their skill levels ( you know this already though)

and since you know what you are doing as a programmer, then anylize the program for what it is, and on it's merrits, and how they will effect you.

How long someone has been on a board, or who they are known by is really quite irrelevant to how something works.
High road!?!?... not sure how that one works.

You asked for opinions and I gave you mine!

If you don't like it don't ask!
I apreciate your opinion Trev, it just is taken with a grain of salt, unless you actually try the program, before you point out any percieved fualts you may or may not find with it.

we have dilligently tried to adress the security issues you have raised, and unless you REALLY look at it deep rather than on the surface you would not, and could not know that.

So you are right I asked for oinions, and I want them. ( but I would actually like them from people that looked at the program first)

if you look at it, and still have some security concerns, then by all means please tell me what those are in YOUR opinion- that is what I am asking for.
I did look at it as you say, I signed up for an account.

I took a good look around and I still feel that I would prefer to run my own ship with my own scripts and my server locked up nice and tight, thank you.[/b][/quote]
well, then that is all I can ask of you then, and I certainly appreciate your valuble time .

but just like Mcdonalds, some people would prefer a whopper over the big mac.

However if there is something that you would like to see added to improve our service, and allow us to earn your business. Please tell me, as we are dedicated to our users experinces as I have said before.