2.5% on Money Market, FDIC insured

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http://charterone.com/pf/money_market_gold.asp

the best deal I could find this week.

[Frank]

Open a savings account at any UK High Street bank and get 4%-6% with a £1 minimum - and rates will be going up ; )

Some of these banks have branches in the US...

- Frank.

[pushpills]

secure yes, but sissy indeed. split whatever you'd put in that into 10 different semi to high risk stock porfolios, tbills, etc, and obviously you'll make many times more.


sissy interest is for fools. if you've got money, put it to work.



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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 07:29 AM
secure yes, but sissy indeed. split whatever you'd put in that into 10 different semi to high risk stock porfolios, tbills, etc, and obviously you'll make many times more.


sissy interest is for fools. if you've got money, put it to work.
spoken like a true ut moron with no pot to piss in.

I won't go at length WHY you just made a moronic post,
but rather give you example whom you called fool, fool.

Microsoft is sitting on $54,000,000,000 in bank deposited cash/ equvalents.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 06:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 06:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 07:29 AM
secure yes, but sissy indeed. split whatever you'd put in that into 10 different semi to high risk stock porfolios, tbills, etc, and obviously you'll make many times more.


sissy interest is for fools. if you've got money, put it to work.
spoken like a true ut moron with no pot to piss in.

I won't go at length WHY you just made a moronic post,
but rather give you example whom you called fool, fool.

Microsoft is sitting on $54,000,000,000 in bank deposited cash/ equvalents.[/b][/quote]
neither of us are microsoft.



moron? you'll eat regular interest, that's garbage.



maybe if you dont want the worries its up your alley, but anyone with internet access can figure out investments that'll beat that any day, no?

[pushpills]

i made over 60% on my stock investments in 2003, sure as hell beats 2.5

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM
i made over 60% on my stock investments in 2003, sure as hell beats 2.5
Firstly. i take anything you say with 10 grains of salt..... 60% was more likely 10%

Secondly, what happens if the bear market resumes? OR is there ZERO risk of a bear market resuming? Market ALWAYS goes up, right? What percentage return did you have in 2000? 2001? 2002?

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 07:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 07:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM
i made over 60% on my stock investments in 2003, sure as hell beats 2.5
Firstly. i take anything you say with 10 grains of salt..... 60% was more likely 10%

Secondly, what happens if the bear market resumes? OR is there ZERO risk of a bear market resuming? Market ALWAYS goes up, right? What percentage return did you have in 2000? 2001? 2002?[/b][/quote]
well i dont bs about money, or anything quite frankly.



gotta know the market. 9/11 hit, i made a shitload off raytheon. acacia starts cashing, i banked on that, findwhat starts making big deals, i take that to the bank times a zillion. 60 percent inculdes some failures and some underperforming stocks.


i expect a larger percent this year, regarldess of the market. there is always profit, thou must know where to find it.

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 08:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 08:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM
i made over 60% on my stock investments in 2003, sure as hell beats 2.5
Firstly. i take anything you say with 10 grains of salt..... 60% was more likely 10%

Secondly, what happens if the bear market resumes? OR is there ZERO risk of a bear market resuming? Market ALWAYS goes up, right? What percentage return did you have in 2000? 2001? 2002?[/b][/quote]
Monk,
glad we both can read numbers
;-)))

BTW,
I believe him about his 60% return...on the stocks he bought in 2000-2001 and which lost 90% of their values by 2003.

60% return in 2003 puts him at net 84% loss still,
but being very modest guy, he fails to mention that
;-)))

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Originally posted by pushpills+Apr 25 2004, 08:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Apr 25 2004, 08:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Monk@Apr 25 2004, 07:15 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM
i made over 60% on my stock investments in 2003, sure as hell beats 2.5
Firstly. i take anything you say with 10 grains of salt..... 60% was more likely 10%

Secondly, what happens if the bear market resumes? OR is there ZERO risk of a bear market resuming? Market ALWAYS goes up, right? What percentage return did you have in 2000? 2001? 2002?
well i dont bs about money, or anything quite frankly.



gotta know the market. 9/11 hit, i made a shitload off raytheon. acacia starts cashing, i banked on that, findwhat starts making big deals, i take that to the bank times a zillion. 60 percent inculdes some failures and some underperforming stocks.


i expect a larger percent this year, regarldess of the market. there is always profit, thou must know where to find it.[/b][/quote]
excelelnt,
EVERYBODY can read the last year tea leaves.

Impress upon us and tell us the stocks we should buy today for 60% return in 12 months

10 stocks,
please and their weighted purchases.

and if you fail,
I'll make sure that all your bitches know what a wind bag you were, are and be one for the next 25 years of your life

[pushpills]

serge i made money in the bad times of the market. see above quote, "there is always profit, thou must know where to find it."


stocks were hitting bottom, and yet i made 50% on raytheon. how? purely common sense.



surely wouldnt take 2.5 know i can get what i can with gerneral sense, let alone what i can get on stuff i do significant research on.

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Originally posted by pushpills+Apr 25 2004, 08:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Apr 25 2004, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 06:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 07:29 AM
secure yes, but sissy indeed. split whatever you'd put in that into 10 different semi to high risk stock porfolios, tbills, etc, and obviously you'll make many times more.


sissy interest is for fools. if you've got money, put it to work.
spoken like a true ut moron with no pot to piss in.

I won't go at length WHY you just made a moronic post,
but rather give you example whom you called fool, fool.

Microsoft is sitting on $54,000,000,000 in bank deposited cash/ equvalents.
neither of us are microsoft.



moron? you'll eat regular interest, that's garbage.



maybe if you dont want the worries its up your alley, but anyone with internet access can figure out investments that'll beat that any day, no?[/b][/quote]
1) compared to you, I am Microsoft.


2) if that was the case, there were many more rich people around and less poor. Doesn't happen. WHY??? Making money in stock market is soooo easy even grogans can do it?

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:29 AM
serge i made money in the bad times of the market. see above quote, "there is always profit, thou must know where to find it."


stocks were hitting bottom, and yet i made 50% on raytheon. how? purely common sense.



surely wouldnt take 2.5 know i can get what i can with gerneral sense, let alone what i can get on stuff i do significant research on.
Grogan,
you are full of shit...

you eagarly quote past which is a common knowlege and keep your lip shut about future which is not.

either name 10 stocks which will bring 60% return in the next 12 months or shutta fuck up.

I have a short fuse for bullshit on weekends

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 07:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 07:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 06:54 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 07:29 AM
secure yes, but sissy indeed. split whatever you'd put in that into 10 different semi to high risk stock porfolios, tbills, etc, and obviously you'll make many times more.


sissy interest is for fools. if you've got money, put it to work.
spoken like a true ut moron with no pot to piss in.

I won't go at length WHY you just made a moronic post,
but rather give you example whom you called fool, fool.

Microsoft is sitting on $54,000,000,000 in bank deposited cash/ equvalents.
neither of us are microsoft.



moron? you'll eat regular interest, that's garbage.



maybe if you dont want the worries its up your alley, but anyone with internet access can figure out investments that'll beat that any day, no?
1) compared to you, I am Microsoft.


2) if that was the case, there were many more rich people around and less poor. Doesn't happen. WHY??? Making money in stock market is soooo easy even grogans can do it?[/b][/quote]
1) yes this is true for now, and now is a brief period of time


2) making money in stock market is so easy grogans can do it true, but sissies idiots and those with no money cannot. so saying "grogans can do it" is just like saying a chess master can win at chess.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 07:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 07:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:29 AM
serge i made money in the bad times of the market. see above quote, "there is always profit, thou must know where to find it."


stocks were hitting bottom, and yet i made 50% on raytheon. how? purely common sense.



surely wouldnt take 2.5 know i can get what i can with gerneral sense, let alone what i can get on stuff i do significant research on.
Grogan,
you are full of shit...

you eagarly quote past which is a common knowlege and keep your lip shut about future which is not.

either name 10 stocks which will bring 60% return in the next 12 months or shutta fuck up.

I have a short fuse for bullshit on weekends[/b][/quote]
I cannot name 10 stocks that will make 60 percent return in 12 months this year.


this is not how i trade, i trade tech stocks mostly and ones that i can find a reason to invest in. overall, i made 60 percent last year. i will make more this year.



10 stocks that will make 60 percent over 12 months, i have no idea. I will make over 60 percent on all my trades, and thats a fact. like I've said, i'm not a 10percenter, i do what can bring in the cash, and i dont invest money i cant risk.



i'm still interested in learning some bond trading from you, although from this 2.5 thread i'm starting to think i'd be better off yackin' with my dad about it.

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:35 AM

1) yes this is true for now, and now is a brief period of time


2) making money in stock market is so easy grogans can do it true, but sissies idiots and those with no money cannot. so saying "grogans can do it" is just like saying a chess master can win at chess.
"Oh, I'm sorry,
did I break your concentration? Oh, you were finished?! Well allow me to retort!"

you can't NOT name portfolio which is going up 60-50-40-30% in the next 12 moinths, because you are just don't know and full of shit.

Do I look like a bitch? Don't even try fucking me with your bullshit like a bitch, because unlike your bitches,
I see thru you

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 07:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 07:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:35 AM

1) yes this is true for now, and now is a brief period of time


2) making money in stock market is so easy grogans can do it true, but sissies idiots and those with no money cannot. so saying "grogans can do it" is just like saying a chess master can win at chess.
"Oh, I'm sorry,
did I break your concentration? Oh, you were finished?! Well allow me to retort!"

you can't NOT name portfolio which is going up 60-50-40-30% in the next 12 moinths, because you are just don't know and full of shit.

Do I look like a bitch? Don't even try fucking me with your bullshit like a bitch, because unlike your bitches,
I see thru you[/b][/quote]
damn serge you MUST be drinking early today! :o



i cannot predict 10 stocks of a 60 percent average gain, just like i couldnt predict last years stocks 12 months in aedvance. it comes when it comes, and that's how i made it last year and how i'll make it this year.


no need to be salty to me serge i'm the ambitious investor, you should like me! :)

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:44 AM

damn serge you MUST be drinking early today! :o



i cannot predict 10 stocks of a 60 percent average gain, just like i couldnt predict last years stocks 12 months in aedvance. it comes when it comes, and that's how i made it last year and how i'll make it this year.


no need to be salty to me serge i'm the ambitious investor, you should like me! :)
full of shit grogan,
YES, this is your new name here,
"You're the motherfucker should be on brain detail. We're tradin'. I'm washin' windows and you're pickin' up this nigger's skull.
"

[Monk]

Serge.. you are in fine form today.

Grogan,
You exaggerate about everything.. and it all starts with the picture of yourself in your avatar..... trying to make yourself LOOK better than you really do.

... and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

As an alternative to Serge's ... how about you just post your next 10-20 stock purchases BEFORE you make them... and also post BEFORE you sell them... and we can see what kind of track record you come up with.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 07:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:44 AM

damn serge you MUST be drinking early today! :o



i cannot predict 10 stocks of a 60 percent average gain, just like i couldnt predict last years stocks 12 months in aedvance. it comes when it comes, and that's how i made it last year and how i'll make it this year.


no need to be salty to me serge i'm the ambitious investor, you should like me! :)
full of shit grogan,
YES, this is your new name here,
"You're the motherfucker should be on brain detail. We're tradin'. I'm washin' windows and you're pickin' up this nigger's skull.
"[/b][/quote]
full of shit nothing

10 minutes ago you said you believe my 60 percent gain last year



and rightfully so, it's true.



i'll make way more than your 2.5% this year serge, you can count on it. i can't predict the stocks in advance, it's all based on the quarterlys and the news hype (and occasionaly email spam pump and dumps that can be quite proffitable if you hear of em).


you're in bitch mode this morning, I'll make more than 2.5, 2.5 is garbage and there's no debating it.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Monk@Apr 25 2004, 07:54 AM
Serge.. you are in fine form today.

Grogan,
You exaggerate about everything.. and it all starts with the picture of yourself in your avatar..... trying to make yourself LOOK better than you really do.

... and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

As an alternative to Serge's ... how about you just post your next 10-20 stock purchases BEFORE you make them... and also post BEFORE you sell them... and we can see what kind of track record you come up with.
you think my avatar looks good?





yea i can tell you my trades before i make em.



and? even a retard could break 2.5 which was the only reason i commented in thsi thread to begin with. i'm not here to be your coach, i was saying that 2.5 is just sissy secure interest, not an earning.

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:56 AM
you think my avatar looks good?

Did I say that? Can you read?

I will say it looks a damn sight better than you actually look though.





Last edited by Monk at Apr 25 2004, 09:01 AM

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:56 AM

yea i can tell you my trades before i make em.

alright... its a deal.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 08:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:56 AM

yea i can tell you my trades before i make em.

alright... its a deal.[/b][/quote]
can YOU read? i'm not here to tutor you.


i've posted a couple in the past, they were all ignored,and they all performed.

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM

full of shit nothing

10 minutes ago you said you believe my 60 percent gain last year



and rightfully so, it's true.



i'll make way more than your 2.5% this year serge, you can count on it. i can't predict the stocks in advance, it's all based on the quarterlys and the news hype (and occasionaly email spam pump and dumps that can be quite proffitable if you hear of em).


you're in bitch mode this morning, I'll make more than 2.5, 2.5 is garbage and there's no debating it.
yes, I beleived that your 60% return netted you 84% loss you do not care to talk about
;-))))

as for what you make and how you make it....Monk asked you a simple thing,
but you can't even do that...
you are full of shit grogan

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM

i'm not here to tutor you.

no... you are here to annoy me.

either post your upcoming trades or shut the fuck up.

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 09:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 09:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 08:56 AM

yea i can tell you my trades before i make em.

alright... its a deal.[/b][/quote]
I can't wait to start filling
"grogan's portfolio" and post the link to the result on the daily basis
;-)))

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 09:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM

i'm not here to tutor you.

no... you are here to annoy me.

either post your upcoming trades or shut the fuck up.[/b][/quote]
Monk, you are asking him the imp[ossable,
he neither can post the trades he knows nothing about nor shut up his stupid mouth

[pushpills]

serge i made money in 2002 as well

i've yet to have a loss ina year.






yes, we can share our upcomming trades if you like. you'll have to share yours too, and they cant be sissy bets. and i stick with my school of thought that a 2.5 percent gain is a significant loss.

[pushpills]

serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.

[Monk]

here you go... your own little place to show us your stock market skills.

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...=ST&f=1&t=11336 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s=6197652f16fc5816159b59f7ccca05aa&act=ST&f=1&t=11336)

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:14 AM
serge i made money in 2002 as well

i've yet to have a loss ina year.






yes, we can share our upcomming trades if you like. you'll have to share yours too, and they cant be sissy bets. and i stick with my school of thought that a 2.5 percent gain is a significant loss.
sure, sure,
of course you did...and I am crowned king of Moldova

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:17 AM
serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.
my attitude towards you is because you are a MORON with no signs of progress....very unfortunate, indeed.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:14 AM
serge i made money in 2002 as well

i've yet to have a loss ina year.






yes, we can share our upcomming trades if you like. you'll have to share yours too, and they cant be sissy bets. and i stick with my school of thought that a 2.5 percent gain is a significant loss.
sure, sure,
of course you did...and I am crowned king of Moldova[/b][/quote]
nice to meet you king moldova

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0 (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=RTN&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&DateRangeForm=1&CP=0&PT=6&C5=1&C6=&C7=1&C8=&C9=0&ComparisonsForm=1&CE=0&CompSyms=&DisplayForm=1&D5=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0)



not sure if that will work if not its rtn 3 yr









serge, factamundo is i make waaaay more than 2.5. this shouldn't be something for you to have a problem with.

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:17 AM
serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.
yeah, poor me...
2001 - -2.31%
2002 - -3.92%
2003 - +12.1%
this year - +.88%
and my numbers include:
living expences, taxes, paper losses/gains and represent
PURE NET

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Originally posted by pushpills+Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:14 AM
serge i made money in 2002 as well

i've yet to have a loss ina year.






yes, we can share our upcomming trades if you like. you'll have to share yours too, and they cant be sissy bets. and i stick with my school of thought that a 2.5 percent gain is a significant loss.
sure, sure,
of course you did...and I am crowned king of Moldova
nice to meet you king moldova

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0 (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=RTN&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&DateRangeForm=1&CP=0&PT=6&C5=1&C6=&C7=1&C8=&C9=0&ComparisonsForm=1&CE=0&CompSyms=&DisplayForm=1&D5=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0)



not sure if that will work if not its rtn 3 yr









serge, factamundo is i make waaaay more than 2.5. this shouldn't be something for you to have a problem with.[/b][/quote]
my ONLY problem with you is that you are a MORON with no clue.

do not show me PAST,
show me the future or shut your stupid mouth

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:17 AM
serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.
my attitude towards you is because you are a MORON with no signs of progress....very unfortunate, indeed.[/b][/quote]
no you aren't being your normal self right now and your attitude towards me will change back.


you can't hold my stock earnings AGAINST me. 2.5 is no good, and i stick with that notion. if you can debate my theories, do so. if you had thought as intelligent as myself at my age, then you are most likely a liar. there's no need for saltiness because i dissapprove the 2.5 earning.

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0 (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=RTN&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&DateRangeForm=1&CP=0&PT=6&C5=1&C6=&C7=1&C8=&C9=0&ComparisonsForm=1&CE=0&CompSyms=&DisplayForm=1&D5=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0)



that chart shows nothing... you could have bought at 36 and sold at 25... all kinds of charts have periods where they go up and down.... it is where you buy and sell that matters.



Last edited by Monk at Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM

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..and by the way you talk the talk,
I doubt you even have a brokerage acount,
you don't even know the elementary terminology every trader uses.

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 09:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 09:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0 (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=RTN&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&DateRangeForm=1&CP=0&PT=6&C5=1&C6=&C7=1&C8=&C9=0&ComparisonsForm=1&CE=0&CompSyms=&DisplayForm=1&D5=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0)



not sure if that will work if not its rtn 3 yr









serge, factamundo is i make waaaay more than 2.5. this shouldn't be something for you to have a problem with.
that chart shows nothing... you could have bought at 36 and sold at 25... all kinds of charts have periods where they go up and down.... it is where you buy and sell that matters.[/b][/quote]
Monk,
if he wasn't a MORON,
would he post absolutelly meaningless chart?

but...he IS a MORON and just can't help it

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:17 AM
serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.
yeah, poor me...
2001 - -2.31%
2002 - -3.92%
2003 - +12.1%
this year - +.88%
and my numbers include:
living expences, taxes, paper losses/gains and represent
PURE NET[/b][/quote]
and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Monk@Apr 25 2004, 09:29 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0 (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.asp?Symbol=RTN&ShowChtBt=Refresh+Chart&DateRangeForm=1&CP=0&PT=6&C5=1&C6=&C7=1&C8=&C9=0&ComparisonsForm=1&CE=0&CompSyms=&DisplayForm=1&D5=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0)



not sure if that will work if not its rtn 3 yr









serge, factamundo is i make waaaay more than 2.5. this shouldn't be something for you to have a problem with.
that chart shows nothing... you could have bought at 36 and sold at 25... all kinds of charts have periods where they go up and down.... it is where you buy and sell that matters.
Monk,
if he wasn't a MORON,
would he post absolutelly meaningless chart?

but...he IS a MORON and just can't help it[/b][/quote]
well i was specifically talking about 2002, and you have my earnings statement above.


here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.


2.5 percent is something if it is weekly, or monthly even. not yearly. again, I'm a young guy, i'm not interested in my substitance fund or my grand kids yearly zoo pass, i'm interested in multiplying the stack.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM

and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.
ahhh, music to my ears...
when can you post 10,000,000 bond?

your guarantees without escrow are as good as sand in the desert.

[Monk]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.

we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM

and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.
ahhh, music to my ears...
when can you post 10,000,000 bond?

your guarantees without escrow are as good as sand in the desert.[/b][/quote]
yea i cant post 10 mill bond.


know what i can do? beat 2.5% yearly by a shitload.


that was my sole point in posting in this thread. you can do more with the money, if you cant, i'll do it for you if i get a cut.

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.

we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.[/b][/quote]
I am VERY enthusiastic about 2.5% FDIC (not Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan) guaranteed return in LIQUID assests..
the problem is,
FDIC only covers 100k, so to be 100% covered one needs lots of banks and finding them to pay even 2% is a BIG problem nowadays

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:41 AM

yea i cant post 10 mill bond.


know what i can do? beat 2.5% yearly by a shitload.


that was my sole point in posting in this thread. you can do more with the money, if you cant, i'll do it for you if i get a cut.
you surelly can...what is the name of your Escrow agent?

as for your beatings of 2.5%,
I am not interested in your doubling your $10 for 100% return
;-)))

my daughter does much better with her $100....
;-))))

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Monk@Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.

we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.
I am VERY enthusiastic about 2.5% FDIC (not Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan) guaranteed return in LIQUID assests..
the problem is,
FDIC only covers 100k, so to be 100% covered one needs lots of banks and finding them to pay even 2% is a BIG problem nowadays[/b][/quote]
yes banks dont want to give you much nowadays....or ever.


take it to the market. people see declining mutual funds and assume there is no decent profit, when a decent in-out portfolio will beat out any loan interest you have and cut you a profit as well.

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Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.
damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by pushpills+Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.
damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.[/b][/quote]
in other words,
you do NOT have ANY position in the market at the moment...

don't go looking for the charts to tell me you bought TASR at $4 and sitting on 2000% profit,
I won't buy it,
if you did have a position in the market,
you'd post it by now

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.
damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.
in other words,
you do NOT have ANY position in the market at the moment...

don't go looking for the charts to tell me you bought TASR at $4 and sitting on 2000% profit,
I won't buy it,
if you did have a position in the market,
you'd post it by now[/b][/quote]
lol, i'm going to eat soon so i cant get into an hour long discussion, i didnt get up this early for my health.



example: valueclick, october - january good time to buy


all i need is email updates and some quick msn info to know the buy, they bought out cj and then in october, started to close on search123. easy tech info for those into the tech biz.


anyway, about 9.00 at that time, i bought at 9.3, sold at 11, has gone up to 12.5 but i set my goals and sell unless there is good proof it will continue up.


9.3 to 11 is more than 2.5 percent gain from my calculations, and these are the kind of trades i scout out and go after, very easy, 90 percent certain, and decent returns.


you dont have to be warren buffet to clear 50 percent earnings, or 200 percent earnings for that matter (although i have not hit this mark).

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Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
I give up on you...
you ARE full of shit

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 09:24 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
I give up on you...
you ARE full of shit
well you are wrong serge but no one is always right.



i got into that almost purely on an email update from the se.

the trade made me as much as the years listings did.







like i said i'll gaurentee a 10percent return on my advice assuming you'll shell out decent bond advice.

[Winetalk.com]

adios,
I'd rather read the book than your nonsense

[sarettah]

I love the smell of blood in the morning......




It smells like... Victory.... :okthumb:

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM
adios,
I'd rather read the book than your nonsense
that's harsh to dismiss what you've yet to see (although you have seen some you just claim its bs too so...)


anyway ill post some up and comming picks and will discuss with you if you are interested, also interested in looking at your bond thoughts.



i'm not here to impress you serge, if you think 2.5 percent a year is the best investment since the bread slicer and nothing will convince you otherwise, that's up to you, but to say that others investment ideas are stupid because they are not your own is ludacrist, especially since yours is one of the lowest earning ventures around, I could get 1.6 on a cd, 2.5 is huge? c'mone...it's safe but not very profitable.


you are the retired one not me, as i attempted to state before. i'm not interested in just covering my expenses and keeping the heap. to each their own, but you shouldnt dismiss others aggressive policies just because they differ from your goals.

[Monk]

ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.



Last edited by Monk at Apr 25 2004, 11:07 AM

[sarettah]

Originally posted by Monk@Apr 25 2004, 11:06 AM
ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.
They don't concentrate much on spelling in the mensa chapter of the De Paul school of Finance (taught in the Gorgon building of course).. :okthumb:

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Monk@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 AM
ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.
eh, whatever, i'm meeting someone ina few and i dont use spellcheck on msg boards.

i bet you are the same way. :awinky:

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 10:47 AM


i'm not here to impress you serge, if you think 2.5 percent a year is the best investment since the bread slicer and nothing will convince you otherwise, that's up to you, but to say that others investment ideas are stupid because they are not your own is ludacrist, especially since yours is one of the lowest earning ventures around, I could get 1.6 on a cd, 2.5 is huge? c'mone...it's safe but not very profitable.


you are the retired one not me, as i attempted to state before. i'm not interested in just covering my expenses and keeping the heap. to each their own, but you shouldnt dismiss others aggressive policies just because they differ from your goals.
ok,
I'll make it easier for you..
give me investment which will bring 2.5% return in 12 months with:
1) ZERO chance to lose a penny?

2) ZERO risk?

3) 100% LIQUIDITY and is 2.5% AFTER comissions?

if you let me on it in the next 12 hours,
I'll take back everything I just said about you...or keep calling you
"full of shit moron" 'untill you come up with one.

it's YOUR choice now.

[chodadog]

Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.

[Joe Sixpack]

NWS

[Trev]

Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 03:54 PM
it's all based on the quarterlys and the news hype (and occasionaly email spam pump and dumps that can be quite proffitable if you hear of em).
Email spam!?!?! You risk your money on email spam!

Gimme your email addy, I know a guy that can really hook you up... right Nick :D

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Originally posted by chodadog@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 PM
Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.
no, there are no limitations for US citizens but....

6% is all nice and dandy but not without the risks.
And the risk is CURRENCY EXCHANGE. I'll have to nuy OZ $$$ to put in OZ bank and who the hell knows where the OZ$ vs US $ exchange ratew will be when I want bring my money back?>

[chodadog]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 26 2004, 02:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 26 2004, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--chodadog@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 PM
Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.
no, there are no limitations for US citizens but....

6% is all nice and dandy but not without the risks.
And the risk is CURRENCY EXCHANGE. I'll have to nuy OZ $$$ to put in OZ bank and who the hell knows where the OZ$ vs US $ exchange ratew will be when I want bring my money back?>[/b][/quote]
Ahh, this is true. Didn't really think about it. Heh, if you had of opened a bank account say, 2 years ago, and closed it a month or two ago, you would have made some major bank with the way the australian dollar. Probably about 50%. Of course, this is hindsight, and we all know that's 20/20. But it also illustrates just how easy the currency can change, for better or for worse. It could go the other way just as quickly, i guess.

But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.



Last edited by chodadog at Apr 26 2004, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.
if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))

[chodadog]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--chodadog@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.
if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Oh wow, i can't believe i didn't even realise that. I was just thinking of the return. Anyways, are there banks that would allow you to keep your funds in US dollars?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by chodadog+Apr 26 2004, 08:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chodadog @ Apr 26 2004, 08:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--chodadog@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.
if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))
Oh wow, i can't believe i didn't even realise that. I was just thinking of the return. Anyways, are there banks that would allow you to keep your funds in US dollars?[/b][/quote]
yes, there are but...they will pay you the US rates as well
;-)

banks are not stupid
;-)))