Bush Daily Mislead

[Meni]

BUSH DISHONESTY TAKES CENTER STAGE

President Bush attacked his opponents today, saying, "If you're going to make an accusation, you ought to back it up with facts." (1) But on everything from the economy to national security, this high standard stands in sharp contrast to the president's own behavior.

On Iraq, President Bush said before the war that Iraq "recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" (2) despite the CIA previously warning the White House not to make this factually inaccurate statement (3). He also said there was "no doubt the Iraqi regime continues to possess the most lethal weapons ever devised" (4) despite receiving repeated warnings that there was little hard evidence Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction after 1991 (5). He even said that "we found the weapons of mass destruction" when none had been found (6).

On economic policy, President Bush said that, with his tax plan, "by far the vast majority of the help goes to the people at the bottom end of the economic ladder." (7) In fact, according to Congress' bipartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, households making less than $40,000 - roughly the bottom half of the economic ladder - would receive only 10 percent of Bush's income tax cut.

On the budget, President Bush said, "This nation has got a deficit because we have been through a war." (8) He said this two months after his own budget acknowledged that his economic policies and tax cuts for the wealthy - not the war - were what created the largest deficits in American history. (9)

Source:
1. Remarks by President Bush and Prime Minister Balkenende of the
Netherlands in a Photo Opportunity, 03/16/2004, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22469.
2. State of the Union, 01/28/2003,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22470.
3. "Bush Aides Disclose Warnings FromCIA", Washington Post, 07/23/2003,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22471.
4. President Says Saddam Hussein Must Leave Iraq Within 48 Hours,
03/17/2003, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22472.
5. "Doubts, dissent stripped from public Iraq assessment", Mercury News,
02/09/2004, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22473.
6. Interview of the President by TVP, Poland, 05/29/2003,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22474.
7. "Serial Exaggerators", Fair.Org,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22475.
8. President Discusses Plan for Economic Growth in Ohio, 04/24/2003,
http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2288426&l=22476.

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[Buff]

Meni, what you know or understand about economics could be written on the head of a pin with enough room left over to write everything you know or understand about politics.

[Meni]

Originally posted by Buff@Mar 17 2004, 11:30 AM
Meni, what you know or understand about economics could be written on the head of a pin with enough room left over to write everything you know or understand about politics.
huh?

go Bush go
only Bush can save us

hahahahahahha

[Peaches]

From Boortz today:

JOHN KERRY CAUGHT IN A NEW LIE ... MAKE THAT LIES

This is going to be a common theme throughout this election, and the Bush campaign needs to seize on this right away. Not only does the Democratic nominee for president switch positions as he sees fit, but Senator John Kerry just tells outright lies. That's right; when the truth doesn't suit his purpose, he just concocts something that does. Do you think the mainstream media would let a Republican get away with something like that? Of course not.

Today's tall tale centers on none other than the brutal communist dictator 90 miles off the Florida coast, Cuban President Fidel Castro. While pandering for Hispanic votes in Sunday's Miami Herald, Kerry said "I'm pretty tough on Castro, because I think he's running one of the last vestiges of a Stalinist secret police government in the world. And I voted for the Helms-Burton legislation to be tough on companies that deal with him" Sounds like pretty much the same thing as President Bush, right? Well, the newspaper did a little digging, and once again, Kerry's past comes back to haunt him.

It turns out that Senator John Kerry actually voted against the Helms-Burton legislation. Never let the facts get in the way of good campaigning, right? Let's just see if the media calls Kerry out on this one at his next press conference.

I doubt it.

Oh ... and while we're at it. Yet another Kerry lie. This one is about that continuing brouhaha over Kerry's statement that he met with foreign leaders who told him that they wanted him to beat Bush. Kerry's statement was recorded --- yes, recorded --- by a Boston Globe reporter handling pool coverage. Well ... this is turning into a problem for Kerry for two reasons. First, nobody seems to remember when he has met with any foreign leaders. Second, he refuses to share with us the names of these foreign leaders he's been talking too.

Now it seems that sKerry wants to change his story. At a recent meeting with campaign donors sKerry was challenged about his statement that he had met with these mysterious foreign leaders. Kerry's respose? "I never said that. What I said was that I have heard from people who are leaders elsewhere in the world who don't appreciate the Bush administration approach and would love to see a change in the leadership of the United States."

Seems like Mr. sKerry has a problem! Here's this tape recording where sKerry clearly says "met," and there's sKerry saying "I never said that!"

[Meni]

and your point?
i said Bush sucks
do I have to list why?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Meni@Mar 17 2004, 12:11 PM
and your point?
i said Bush sucks
do I have to list why?
..and Kerry doesn't????

[Vick]

This all goes to prove my longstanding point

Anyone who wants to be President of the USA .....

.... is unfit for the job



I'm thinking of setting up a Vick For President of the USA in 2004 website (and mass mailing the hell out of it ah ha ha ha ha Presidential Spam)

Short Platform -
Abolish income tax as we know it and replace with National Sales Tax
Abolish Welfare and replace with education programs
Encourage Iraq to sell the USA oil under market prices (short term solution)
Encourage production of energy efficient means of transportation
Crack down on Internet Porn (I need to line my pockets somehow)
Reduce Federal Government and Government Spending (easy once National Sales Tax is invoked)
Mandatory Balanced Budget (see above - tie to National Sales Tax rate)

[Winetalk.com]

Vick,
I'd vote for you...it makes heck of a lot of sense...

[PornoDoggy]

Holy Cut'nPaste, Batman ... all this thread needs is J'spsycho to be complete.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 17 2004, 12:17 PM
Vick,
I'd vote for you...it makes heck of a lot of sense...
Some of what he says does make some sense ... the problem is, if he decides to run, he is automatically delcaring his OWN incompetence to have the job, and you are therefore back at square one.

[Vick]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Mar 17 2004, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Mar 17 2004, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Mar 17 2004, 12:17 PM
Vick,
I'd vote for you...it makes heck of a lot of sense...
Some of what he says does make some sense ... the problem is, if he decides to run, he is automatically delcaring his OWN incompetence to have the job, and you are therefore back at square one.[/b][/quote]
Bingo PD - that's why I'd crackdown on Internet Porn
I can admit I'd line my own pocket :D



Thanks Serge B)

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Vick+Mar 17 2004, 12:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Mar 17 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -PornoDoggy@Mar 17 2004, 12:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Mar 17 2004, 12:17 PM
Vick,
I'd vote for you...it makes heck of a lot of sense...
Some of what he says does make some sense ... the problem is, if he decides to run, he is automatically delcaring his OWN incompetence to have the job, and you are therefore back at square one.
Bingo PD - that's why I'd crackdown on Internet Porn
I can admit I'd line my own pocket :D



Thanks Serge B)[/b][/quote]
I might be persuaded to vote for you too ... but then Meni would cut and paste comments from Howard Stern alleging that your relationship with Dead Dick Nixon was more than just admiration ...

[Vick]

I'll solicit Meni for the Ambassador to Greece job - he know more about Greece than I do - plus the girls will dig him

[Meni]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Mar 17 2004, 12:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Mar 17 2004, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Meni@Mar 17 2004, 12:11 PM
and your point?
i said Bush sucks
do I have to list why?
..and Kerry doesn't????[/b][/quote]
Bush sucks way more

[Meni]

Originally posted by Vick@Mar 17 2004, 12:38 PM
I'll solicit Meni for the Ambassador to Greece job - he know more about Greece than I do - plus the girls will dig him
Vick I never found a greek chick attractive
never
weird
I've never been to greece
I can say this about the USA
it enabled my parents to come over on a boat
work, my dad to own a biz
retire
and move back to Greece

[Almighty Colin]

I'm unhappy with both candidates. That's rare for me. Good thing we have the Constitution.

[Dynamic]

That Kerry misquote is going to be used over and over again to bash him.

He never said foreign leaders, apparently the 'newspaper' who dug up his voting record didn't bother to dig up the actual Boston Globe quote. He said 'more leaders'.

Ah well. :P

[stargaze]

Originally posted by Meni+Mar 17 2004, 09:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meni @ Mar 17 2004, 09:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Mar 17 2004, 12:38 PM
I'll solicit Meni for the Ambassador to Greece job - he know more about Greece than I do - plus the girls will dig him
Vick I never found a greek chick attractive
never
weird
I've never been to greece
I can say this about the USA
it enabled my parents to come over on a boat
work, my dad to own a biz
retire
and move back to Greece[/b][/quote]
Meni...Is that because Greek women don't braid the hair in their armpits?
:-)))

Does anyone think that if he Kerry did not decide on his own...that anyone would be clamoring for him to run?

He does speak like a Roman Senator tho :-))

[Gabriel]

Spin Spin Spin Spin Spin

[Meni]

hee hee
no spin zone

bill the fuck face o'really
at 57 finally found success
thanks Stern in private
doesn't stand up for Stern
notice Bill was a no body host of inside edition
then he learned from Howard get a bit crazy
and wow he beats Larry King in the ratings
he doesn't go UP against Larry
and who cares
his radio show maked Infinity NO MONEY
That fuck bad mouthed Jenna
but asked for her movies for RESEARCH

[Playful Melissa]

Geez Kerry or Bush !!!

I'm ready to give up and move to my own dictatorship on a cute little tropical island....

Who is ready to join me!!!

As I've been told by a few people recently on set "I'm an anal retentive control freak" dictator should be easy..

Ohhh the life of a gay man trapped in a woman's body!!!

MMV

[Playful Melissa]

:D



Last edited by Azure Sales at Mar 17 2004, 06:06 PM

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Meni@Mar 17 2004, 11:35 AM
hee hee
no spin zone

bill the fuck face o'really
at 57 finally found success
thanks Stern in private
doesn't stand up for Stern
notice Bill was a no body host of inside edition
then he learned from Howard get a bit crazy
and wow he beats Larry King in the ratings
he doesn't go UP against Larry
and who cares
his radio show maked Infinity NO MONEY
That fuck bad mouthed Jenna
but asked for her movies for RESEARCH

You see OReilly get his ass handed to him the other day when he interviewed Blix? First time I have seen OReilly shut the fuck down on live TV, he was almost speechless for a second. You could actually see the "oh fuck" on his face. Make that the second time, Matt Hale worked him over pretty well.



Last edited by [Labret] at Mar 17 2004, 03:10 PM

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Colin@Mar 17 2004, 12:42 PM
I'm unhappy with both candidates. That's rare for me. Good thing we have the Constitution.


I am with you Colin. I went from being a Bush supporter to someone who is voting for him because he is the lesser of 2 evils. If we was no war going on, I would not give a hoot.

[[Labret]]

Of course they are both slapdicks, but at least democrats will fight nearly everything republicans bring forward... just out of spite.

And thats a good thing. I have no desire to live in pornless Alabamastan.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Mar 17 2004, 10:35 PM
Of course they are both slapdicks, but at least democrats will fight nearly everything republicans bring forward... just out of spite.

And thats a good thing. I have no desire to live in pornless Alabamastan.
Republicans do the same when Dems are in power.

OUr founders created a system of checks and balances that keep the politicans from fucking us over severly every year!

[Meni]

checks in balances
?
FCC who checks with them?

and didn't Bush go ahead and appoint some judges, FAR RIGHT judges, when like congress was on vaca or something
that scumbag

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Meni@Mar 18 2004, 12:47 AM
checks in balances
?
FCC who checks with them?

and didn't Bush go ahead and appoint some judges, FAR RIGHT judges, when like congress was on vaca or something
that scumbag
All three. Judicial, legislative, and executive. Congress and FCC is obvious. Unless a landslide decision, an executive signature is required on decisions by Congress and there have been cases brought to the Supreme Court re: the FCC.

And yes, Republican presidents choose conservative judges and Democratic presidents choose liberal ones and we the people choose both Republican and Democratic presidents depending on our collective moods.

[OldJeff]

Originally posted by Colin@Mar 17 2004, 12:42 PM
I'm unhappy with both candidates. That's rare for me. Good thing we have the Constitution.
Now if we could only get some people in office that actually supported the whole damn thing.

Not just the parts they like.

I do want to say thanks to Colin, PD, Torone, MikeAI, Alex, Serge, Carrie, Labret, Meni, Peaches, and everyone else I have ever been on the opposite side of a political discussion with.

If nothing else it made me dig deeper into the issues and think harder about them than I normally would.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by OldJeff+Mar 18 2004, 07:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Mar 18 2004, 07:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Mar 17 2004, 12:42 PM
I'm unhappy with both candidates. That's rare for me. Good thing we have the Constitution.
Now if we could only get some people in office that actually supported the whole damn thing.

Not just the parts they like.

I do want to say thanks to Colin, PD, Torone, MikeAI, Alex, Serge, Carrie, Labret, Meni, Peaches, and everyone else I have ever been on the opposite side of a political discussion with.

If nothing else it made me dig deeper into the issues and think harder about them than I normally would.[/b][/quote]
Right back at ya. We've had some good ones :okthumb:

As far as the Constitution the writers understood that there would be power struggles between various political powers. That's precisely why they wrote it. I'm referring to the articles that describe how the government willl function and how the various divisions of government will keep each other in check.

They also wrote into the Constitution the process by which it could be changed. They intended it to be a difficult-to-change document but not one that couldn't be changed. This is a good thing because I think we'd all agree some of the amendments have created profound positive changes for American society (and some not).

Things change. The framers of the Constitution knew this. Not everyone will agree with everything in the Constitution and they don't have to.