serge, mike, etc...

[pushpills]

r0n related ? I'll admit, he paid my first checks too in 96.



but less humidity celebs porn status etc...why not be in california?


ce doesn't controll the state and will have to make room for me when I finish school. why florida...is my question. life isn't over-a, so skip florid-a.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 03:23 AM
r0n related ? I'll admit, he paid my first checks too in 96.



but less humidity celebs porn status etc...why not be in california?


ce doesn't controll the state and will have to make room for me when I finish school. why florida...is my question. life isn't over-a, so skip florid-a.
another mensa question......

California State Tax - 11%

Florida State Tax - ZERO

have anymore questions, genious?

[Toolz]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 12:23 AM
r0n related ? I'll admit, he paid my first checks too in 96.



but less humidity celebs porn status etc...why not be in california?


ce doesn't controll the state and will have to make room for me when I finish school. why florida...is my question. life isn't over-a, so skip florid-a.
Step away from the booze and the keyboard,

If you think people avoid CA because of CE you've either got rocks in your head or been drinking too much on the rocks tonight.

[Peaches]

With all its crazy laws, high prices and taxes, blackouts, earthquakes, and current financial woes, I always question why ANYONE wants to live in CA. :unsure:

[Mike AI]

Kid needs geography lessons....

I am going to West Cpast fof Florida!

Not only a taxs issues but I am a Southern Boy.. I like the South. I could not live in California.

[Meni]

California has
um,
disneyland
FL
has disneyworld

case closed

[Almighty Colin]

Cost of living, taxes, and hell, California is way over there.

[webfather]

And that's before we even discuss the KOOKS, crooks and smog out in LA.

But 11% tax alone should be a slam dunk.

:-)

[Winetalk.com]

also...Boca Raton is USA Capital of:
e-mail spammers
stock market crooks
and I have no problems if they all move to either California or jail...

[JerryW]

The only good things about California is the scenery and the weather, everything else sucks :(.

Should have moved out in 1990 instead of 2000.

[Meni]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 8 2004, 10:45 AM
also...Boca Raton is USA Capital of:
e-mail spammers
stock market crooks
and I have no problems if they all move to either California or jail...
that reminds me serge
boca raton
means something rat
or rat something
so you want donny to get rid of your rats?

[Meni]

oh donny is on the phone
boca raton
mouth of the rat

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by webfather@Mar 8 2004, 10:43 AM
And that's before we even discuss the KOOKS, crooks and smog out in LA.

But 11% tax alone should be a slam dunk.

:-)
Reminds me what my Dad used to tell me....

"California is great except for all the Californians...."

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 8 2004, 10:45 AM
also...Boca Raton is USA Capital of:
e-mail spammers
So as not to offend Nick.

[JR]

Originally posted by webfather@Mar 8 2004, 07:43 AM
And that's before we even discuss the KOOKS, crooks and smog out in LA.

But 11% tax alone should be a slam dunk.

:-)
ultra high taxes - bankrupt state.

connection?

[kath]

We've been looking into moving OUT of California... hub is a native, lived here his whole life except the couple years he was in the Army. My kids were born here... our whole family has moved here now... but I would LOVE to live anywhere but here.

Hub works for the State of California but even if he stays with the state we could move to the borders... Nevada or Arizona. It's definitely a consideration... our house has more than doubled in value since we bought it 3 years ago - we could sell and buy a HUGE home outside of Vegas - now that would be sweet!

:rokk:

[pushpills]

interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)

[KC]

I gotta stick up for Cali here. Northern Cali and LA are totally different. I try to stay away from Southern Cali as much as possible!!

- California is one of the most beautiful states in the union.
- California has the Napa Valley.
- I agree the taxes are ridiculous. The taxes are driving the earners out of the state. Businesses and wealthy individuals are moving away. That's a recipe for disaster.


We have "The Rock"
http://www.paycounter.com/personal/baytour/sm_IMG_1032.JPG

And the Golden Gate!
http://www.paycounter.com/personal/baytour/sm_IMG_1045.JPG

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by KC@Mar 8 2004, 06:30 PM
I gotta stick up for Cali here. Northern Cali and LA are totally different. I try to stay away from Southern Cali as much as possible!!

- California is one of the most beautiful states in the union.
- California has the Napa Valley.
- I agree the taxes are ridiculous. The taxes are driving the earners out of the state. Businesses and wealthy individuals are moving away. That's a recipe for disaster.


We have "The Rock"
http://www.paycounter.com/personal/baytour/sm_IMG_1032.JPG

And the Golden Gate!
http://www.paycounter.com/personal/baytour/sm_IMG_1045.JPG


KC I have similiar photos!!!

You need to make it to Tampa for a trip. I think you would like it out here.

I enjoy VISITING Cali. Especially Napa, and Carmel area.... but I could not live there!

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 05:23 PM
interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)


I am used to humidty... I was born and raised in New Orleans.

It took awhile for Katie ( from Sacrimento) to get use to it, I finally got her convinved humidty is good for the skin! :D

[KC]

Originally posted by Peaches@Mar 8 2004, 09:12 AM
With all its crazy laws, high prices and taxes, blackouts, earthquakes, and current financial woes, I always question why ANYONE wants to live in CA. :unsure:
Hey Peaches,

High Prices - Supply and demand... people want to live there.
Taxes - I'm with you.. I'm paying 0% personal now in AK.
Blackouts - That was pretty much a 1 time thing, I think they learned their lesson.
Earthquakes - More people die in Florida from Heat Stroke & Lightening Strikes in FL than Earthquakes in Ca.
Financial Woes - Years of mismanagement caught up to the golden state. I don't see how this would effect someone in our business. If you're poor and rely on the state, I'd definitely be concerned... or If you're a state contractor... What does it mean to the average middleclass person?

The weather in California is probably the best in the country. No Humidity, No Snow Storms, No Hurricanes, etc etc.. :)

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Mar 8 2004, 03:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Mar 8 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 05:23 PM
interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)


I am used to humidty... I was born and raised in New Orleans.

It took awhile for Katie ( from Sacrimento) to get use to it, I finally got her convinved humidty is good for the skin! :D[/b][/quote]
Well maybe I will head south if it'll clear my skin up :biglaugh:

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by pushpills+Mar 8 2004, 06:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Mar 8 2004, 06:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Mar 8 2004, 03:36 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 05:23 PM
interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)


I am used to humidty... I was born and raised in New Orleans.

It took awhile for Katie ( from Sacrimento) to get use to it, I finally got her convinved humidty is good for the skin! :D
Well maybe I will head south if it'll clear my skin up :biglaugh:[/b][/quote]


Puberty might help!

:P

[pushpills]

Originally posted by KC+Mar 8 2004, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KC @ Mar 8 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Mar 8 2004, 09:12 AM
With all its crazy laws, high prices and taxes, blackouts, earthquakes, and current financial woes, I always question why ANYONE wants to live in CA. :unsure:
Hey Peaches,

High Prices - Supply and demand... people want to live there.
Taxes - I'm with you.. I'm paying 0% personal now in AK.
Blackouts - That was pretty much a 1 time thing, I think they learned their lesson.
Earthquakes - More people die in Florida from Heat Stroke & Lightening Strikes in FL than Earthquakes in Ca.
Financial Woes - Years of mismanagement caught up to the golden state. I don't see how this would effect someone in our business. If you're poor and rely on the state, I'd definitely be concerned... or If you're a state contractor... What does it mean to the average middleclass person?

The weather in California is probably the best in the country. No Humidity, No Snow Storms, No Hurricanes, etc etc.. :)[/b][/quote]
yea I like everything about it more but the taxes.

[pushpills]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Mar 8 2004, 03:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Mar 8 2004, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by -Mike AI@Mar 8 2004, 03:36 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 05:23 PM
interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)


I am used to humidty... I was born and raised in New Orleans.

It took awhile for Katie ( from Sacrimento) to get use to it, I finally got her convinved humidty is good for the skin! :D
Well maybe I will head south if it'll clear my skin up :biglaugh:


Puberty might help!

:P[/b][/quote]
:o

[KC]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Mar 8 2004, 06:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Mar 8 2004, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Mar 8 2004, 05:23 PM
interesting info, isn't it humid?

I've always kinda figured california is the place I want to end up, even if it does cost more to live there.


just curious, always like to know why people decide that's the place to be :)


I am used to humidty... I was born and raised in New Orleans.

It took awhile for Katie ( from Sacrimento) to get use to it, I finally got her convinved humidty is good for the skin! :D[/b][/quote]
haha, I'm sure it is good for the skin.. It's just uncomftable to constantly "pit out" your clothes....

I need to take like 3 times as many shirts with me to NO and Florida because of the humidity!

I want to check out Tampa. That southern/east coast humidity just sucks!! Us California Boys can't deal with it!!

[Winetalk.com]

KC, I know...you are more into earthquakes and fire smoke
;-))

[KC]

I guess the diversity of our states is one thing that makes the US so cool..

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by KC@Mar 8 2004, 06:51 PM
I guess the diversity of our states is one thing that makes the US so cool..
yes....all those ashes end up in WINE next year...I am envious, Florida has one of the most archaic wines laws
;-(

[KC]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 8 2004, 06:50 PM
KC, I know...you are more into earthquakes and fire smoke
;-))
I think Southern Cali and Northern Cali should be two different states!! I flew over that smoke last year on the way back from Cabo. The sky was clear in Nor Cal. :)

[KC]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Mar 8 2004, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Mar 8 2004, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--KC@Mar 8 2004, 06:51 PM
I guess the diversity of our states is one thing that makes the US so cool..
yes....all those ashes end up in WINE next year...I am envious, Florida has one of the most archaic wines laws
;-([/b][/quote]
That's why having a cellar full of 1997 Silver Oak is so important. ;)

[Winetalk.com]

Nothern Italy says the same about South Italy..
I'm going South this year to investigate
;-)))

[Sharpie]

I became a Florida resident just a couple of weeks ago. No state income taxes is a clincher.... but the winters are also 'to die for. Cape Coral/Ft Myers/ Naples is as far north as I want to be.

I have been told that people go from their air conditioned homes to their air conditioned car & on to their air conditioned next stop.... :-) Sure beats defrosting your car to leave the driveway. The better of two evils...:-)

[Peaches]

KC, the thing I don't like about earthquakes is that no one knows about them ahead of time :(

I'm like Michael - it's a great place to visit, and I do love to visit there (my Mom and sister are visiting my other sister in LA right now), but I couldn't live there unless I lived WAY north.

[Kt Doodles]

yes i agree KC, Northern and Southern are not alike..and should be separated into two states.

oh and thanks for the pictures, it had been TOO long since I had seen a picture of that trip!

;-)

[Kt Doodles]

Oh and michael...what was that again about you not liking the CaliforNIANS???

Ah-hem...

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Kt Doodles@Mar 8 2004, 10:50 PM
Oh and michael...what was that again about you not liking the CaliforNIANS???

Ah-hem...
he is just scared shitless of his mother-in-law!
;_)))

[Gabriel]

:moon:



Last edited by Gabriel at Mar 9 2004, 03:01 PM

[Tonda_WEGCash]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Mar 8 2004, 03:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Mar 8 2004, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--webfather@Mar 8 2004, 10:43 AM
And that's before we even discuss the KOOKS, crooks and smog out in LA.

But 11% tax alone should be a slam dunk.

:-)
Reminds me what my Dad used to tell me....

"California is great except for all the Californians...."[/b][/quote]
No love for the Californians:(

Moving to California was one of the best things I have ever done.

The state tax has never really bothered me as I worked a deal with Zimm to get paid in Kool Aid Points (http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/2001/ka_all_stuff.html)!

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Peaches@Mar 8 2004, 06:12 AM
With all its crazy laws, high prices and taxes, blackouts, earthquakes, and current financial woes, I always question why ANYONE wants to live in CA. :unsure:
I'm in California, 1971, but I dam sure wouldn't have moved here today.