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Almighty Colin
03-04-2004, 07:00 AM
OK, so I still haven't read the Da Vinci Code yet. It takes a lot to get me to pick up a fiction book. What do you think of this review at Amazon? I'm worried the book will annoy me ...

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I have two degrees in art history. The assertions made about Leonardo Da Vinci's work in this book are not just wrong, they are ridiculous. To cite a key example: the apostle to the right of Jesus in Leonardo's LAST SUPPER is not Mary Magdalene, and could never have been intended as such. It is John, "the disciple loved by the Lord." The fact that this figure could not be Mary Magdalene is proven by the existence of preliminary sketches for the LAST SUPPER (now in the Accademia, in Venice) which Leonardo made of each apostle. Not only did he make sketches of each apostle, he LABELED them. Again, no Mary Magdalene, and no hint of such. (And if it is Mary, where oh where is John? Leonardo never would have left him out.) Moreover, the reason there is no chalice in this painting is not owing to the preposterous assumption that Leonardo was painting Mary Magdalene as the Holy Grail. (It always helps to LOOK AT THE PICTURE.) The moment Leonardo chose to depict is NOT the institution of the Eucharist (which would have included a chalice), but the earlier moment recorded in the gospels, when Jesus says that one of the apostles will betray him. This accounts for the emotional displays on all of the apostles' faces, including that of Judas, which is in shadow. To read any other meaning into this painting (a union between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, the presence of the letter "M" -- where?)is not just ludicrous, it defies belief. (For anyone seeking more on this topic, I refer you to Frederick Hartt's HISTORY OF ITALIAN RENAISSANCE ART, published by Prentice-Hall/Abrams.)
I wanted to have fun with this book, and for the first two-thirds, I did, despite the fact that Dan Brown dangles more participles than all the vines in California dangle grapes. But once the main character (from Harvard!) and another academic (from Oxford! Agh!) started trying to fit Leonardo's paintings to the Procrustean bed of their Holy Grail theories, they lost me. When a friend called yesterday and said there was an article in the New York Times claiming that THE DA VINCI CODE was based on "accurate historical research," I gagged. I've never written a negative review on Amazon before, but I felt I had to alert readers to, as it were, "the facts of the case."

Winetalk.com
03-04-2004, 07:06 AM
Colin, you don';t have to worry about being annoyed...
you do NOT posses 2 art degrees and all those inaccuracies will just go over your head, thus giving you a good reading.
;-0)))

Almighty Colin
03-04-2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 4 2004, 07:14 AM
Colin, you don';t have to worry about being annoyed...
you do NOT posses 2 art degrees and all those inaccuracies will just go over your head, thus giving you a good reading.
;-0)))
Yeah, I'll be looking stuff up online as I go along. I don't know how to read a fiction book ;-)

Joe Sixpack
03-04-2004, 08:40 AM
When something is popular it is almost a guarantee that it is mediocre.

almost...

...but not always.

Peaches
03-04-2004, 09:01 AM
It's FICTION! :)


fic·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkshn) n.

1. a. An imaginative creation or a pretense that does not represent
actuality but has been invented.
b. The act of inventing such a creation or pretense.
2 A lie.

3. a. A literary work whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
b.The category of literature comprising works of this kind, including novels and short stories.

Winetalk.com
03-04-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Mar 4 2004, 08:48 AM
When something is popular it is almost a guarantee that it is mediocre.

almost...

...but not always.
...and the SAFEST way is to have an opinion about it,
WITHOUT actually reading...

Nickatilynx
03-04-2004, 11:40 AM
I see gaining her two art degrees extinguished any spark of
any appreciation for art .

An Art major who has no concept of "Artistic liscence".

;-)))

( don't know why I assume the critic to be a her ;-)

OldJeff
03-04-2004, 12:07 PM
Personally, I have always thought it was a woman next to Jesus in the painting. I remember asking who the woman was as a little kid.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leonard...stsupp.jpg.html (http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leonardo/lastsupp.jpg.html)

Colin, Read the book, if nothing else it makes you think.

Seeing as how the Da Vinci Code and the Bible are both works of fiction either one is possible.

Bishop
03-04-2004, 12:59 PM
Does the guy to the right of Jesus not have the longest finger you have ever seen in your life? haha

Winetalk.com
03-04-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Bishop@Mar 4 2004, 01:07 PM
Does the guy to the right of Jesus not have the longest finger you have ever seen in your life? haha
the'd be flipping perfect FUCK YOU from the car window!
;-))

*KK*
03-04-2004, 03:38 PM
I haven't read it, mainly because it seems that every time someone starts talking about it, their belief in the book as reality is really laughable.

The last time it came up in conversation, the chick telling us all about it actually had herself fooled into thinking that a bank line of credit was an instrument for world destruction perpetrated by the Catholic Church.

Whew...

MissEve
03-04-2004, 03:45 PM
Colin,

I just read the first 50 pages or so and I like it but I think it will definitely annoy you!

JR
03-04-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by *KK*@Mar 4 2004, 12:46 PM

The last time it came up in conversation, the chick telling us all about it actually had herself fooled into thinking that a bank line of credit was an instrument for world destruction perpetrated by the Catholic Church.

Whew...
:blink:

PornoDoggy
03-04-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Mar 4 2004, 09:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Mar 4 2004, 09:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Mar 4 2004, 08:48 AM
When something is popular it is almost a guarantee that it is mediocre.

almost...

...but not always.
...and the SAFEST way is to have an opinion about it,
WITHOUT actually reading...[/b][/quote]
I'm one of those people who tends to become more skeptical about a book, film, whatever, as more and more people begin to talk about it. That's not so much a desire to be cool as it is a long history of being tremendously disappointed when I break down and check it out.

However, if everything holds true to form, in about three years there will be 1,000s of copies of the DaVinci Code available at yard sales and book fairs, and I can check it out cheap.

tid
03-04-2004, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by MissEve@Mar 4 2004, 12:53 PM
Colin,

I just read the first 50 pages or so and I like it but I think it will definitely annoy you!
Your opinion on this I trust. Banned!

Almighty Colin
03-05-2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by tid+Mar 4 2004, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tid @ Mar 4 2004, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--MissEve@Mar 4 2004, 12:53 PM
Colin,

I just read the first 50 pages or so and I like it but I think it will definitely annoy you!
Your opinion on this I trust. Banned![/b][/quote]
- Colin

(posted from a friend's computer)

Almighty Colin
03-08-2004, 07:59 PM
Picked the book up last night and just finished it. Gotta say it's a good book. Fun.

My only knocks are that most of the clues in the book were too easy and I wish there were one more chapter.

So Serge, you liked Brown's other books? Which do you recommend next?

Winetalk.com
03-08-2004, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Colin@Mar 8 2004, 08:07 PM
Picked the book up last night and just finished it. Gotta say it's a good book. Fun.

My only knocks are that most of the clues in the book were too easy and I wish there were one more chapter.

So Serge, you liked Brown's other books? Which do you recommend next?
Demons and Angels,
Deception Point and skip Digital Fortress...
it was his first and not ready fro prime time,
I knew who the culprit was by 2/3rds ;-))
;_))