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sextoyking
02-19-2004, 01:55 AM
Hi All,

Just read this article.

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.js...&storyid=916439 (http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1258&storyid=916439)


Personally I could care less, as I am 100% pro choice, but it won't look good for Bush. If it's true, they will just play it off like the parties, cocaine, etc of his "stupid youth" I guess.

hmmmm

Steffie
02-19-2004, 02:07 AM
Good I love it, I hope they nail him

NEXT
:rokk:

Winetalk.com
02-19-2004, 02:34 AM
Todd,
wanna do a friendly $100 bet that Flynt will chicken out the SAME way he chickened out the last election he came up with "Bush story"?

put your money where Flynt's mouth is!
;-))))

are YOU a chicken????
;-))))

sextoyking
02-19-2004, 02:51 AM
Serge,

He didn't exactly come out in 2000 like he said he would, but he has blown the cover on some right wingers in the past.

But I will bet you $100.00 that flynt comes out and blows this story wide open.

Winetalk.com
02-19-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by sextoyking@Feb 19 2004, 02:59 AM
Serge,

He didn't exactly come out in 2000 like he said he would, but he has blown the cover on some right wingers in the past.

But I will bet you $100.00 that flynt comes out and blows this story wide open.
very good! We have an Official bet!

(and this, Brad, IS how I truly make my money! ;-))))

sextoyking
02-19-2004, 02:54 AM
Ok Dokie it's a bet.

Brad, this is how I make my money :)

Winetalk.com
02-19-2004, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by sextoyking@Feb 19 2004, 03:02 AM
Ok Dokie it's a bet.

Brad, this is how I make my money :)
oh really?

how big is your wall you post those checks on?

in all my life I only wrote 3:
MikeFold ($10), Kjell($50) and Webfather($5) are the proud recipients
;-))))

spazlabz
02-19-2004, 06:10 AM
Republican National Committee spokesman Yier Shi said: 'The Democrats will do anything in this election, judging by their campaign tactics, to smear without any evidence or background. This is just another one of those cases.'
smear? the dems don't have to smear. the GOP should be racked with scandal wide open in the public view. The stories just are not getting the kind of press I wish they were.


spaz

Winetalk.com
02-19-2004, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by spazlabz@Feb 19 2004, 06:18 AM
Republican National Committee spokesman Yier Shi said: 'The Democrats will do anything in this election, judging by their campaign tactics, to smear without any evidence or background. This is just another one of those cases.'
smear? the dems don't have to smear. the GOP should be racked with scandal wide open in the public view. The stories just are not getting the kind of press I wish they were.


spaz
should, but they aren't...
and when shit isn't there, planting it is the ONLY choice
;-)

TheEnforcer
02-19-2004, 09:40 AM
It won't be taken seriously even if true because of who brought the charges. It's orginally a Larry Flynt investigation and it would take quite a lot before the mainstream press went and ran with it.

JR
02-19-2004, 09:48 AM
us against them.
accusations.
mud slinging.
election time.
yawn.

Almighty Colin
02-19-2004, 09:50 AM
The Republicans were here ...

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spazlabz
02-19-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Feb 19 2004, 04:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Feb 19 2004, 04:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--spazlabz@Feb 19 2004, 06:18 AM
Republican National Committee spokesman Yier Shi said: 'The Democrats will do anything in this election, judging by their campaign tactics, to smear without any evidence or background. This is just another one of those cases.'
smear? the dems don't have to smear. the GOP should be racked with scandal wide open in the public view. The stories just are not getting the kind of press I wish they were.


spaz
should, but they aren't...
and when shit isn't there, planting it is the ONLY choice
;-)[/b][/quote]
I agree Serge, but having a slightly liberal bent like i do I really wish some of the more pertinent stuff would be aired all over the place.


spaz

Peaches
02-19-2004, 10:55 AM
It's seriously getting to the point where no one will run for office because we ALL have skeletons in our closet. :(

sarettah
02-19-2004, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 19 2004, 11:03 AM
It's seriously getting to the point where no one will run for office because we ALL have skeletons in our closet. :(
Not Me !!!! The only skeleton I have is right under my skin........

with the exception of that time that I... and of course there was that other tiome... and then there was... (how can you forget that...great time that was)




(I got you...under my skin...........) :yowsa:



Last edited by sarettah at Feb 19 2004, 11:20 AM

Mike AI
02-19-2004, 11:18 AM
Who cares?

Flynt is a moron.

Who else are Conservatives going to vote for? The people who are really anti-abortion are not going to decide to just vote for Kerry. Some may stay home, but not enough.

The 3 big issues this campaign with be National Security, Economy & Gay Marriage.....

I think Bush is pretty solid on all 3, and lined up with a majority of this Country.

Torone
02-19-2004, 11:22 AM
"Is Larry Flynt right on this..."

Is Larry Flint a Liberal? Of course he is, or Todd wouldn't be quoting him...

BTW, Todd, everyone in this country is paying for abortions...

Mike AI
02-19-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Torone@Feb 19 2004, 11:30 AM


BTW, Todd, everyone in this country is paying for abortions...


HAHAHA Classic line.

Hell for awhile we were paying for abortions for people in other countries as well.

I personally think gov't should not be invovled with issues like this ( at least before third trimester). However, I also don't think my tax money should be going to it.

Winetalk.com
02-19-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by spazlabz+Feb 19 2004, 10:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (spazlabz @ Feb 19 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Feb 19 2004, 04:42 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--spazlabz@Feb 19 2004, 06:18 AM
Republican National Committee spokesman Yier Shi said: 'The Democrats will do anything in this election, judging by their campaign tactics, to smear without any evidence or background. This is just another one of those cases.'
smear? the dems don't have to smear. the GOP should be racked with scandal wide open in the public view. The stories just are not getting the kind of press I wish they were.


spaz
should, but they aren't...
and when shit isn't there, planting it is the ONLY choice
;-)
I agree Serge, but having a slightly liberal bent like i do I really wish some of the more pertinent stuff would be aired all over the place.


spaz[/b][/quote]
no wonder you liked Clinton so much....
;_))))

he was a GOOD source for it
;-)))

PornoDoggy
02-19-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Feb 19 2004, 11:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Feb 19 2004, 11:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Torone@Feb 19 2004, 11:30 AM


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HAHAHA Classic line.

Hell for awhile we were paying for abortions for people in other countries as well.

I personally think gov't should not be invovled with issues like this ( at least before third trimester). However, I also don't think my tax money should be going to it.[/b][/quote]
I don't think my tax money should be given to people who are going to sell Jezzzzzuzzz as the only way to recover from alcoholism or drug addiction. I don't like my money going to the sexual prohibitionists who think that teaching abstinence alone will solve any problems. I don't think my tax dollars should go to people promoting marriage as a way out of poverty.

That's the problem with this government. They don't do exactly what I want them to do.

Mike AI
02-19-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 19 2004, 12:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 19 2004, 12:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Feb 19 2004, 11:40 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Torone@Feb 19 2004, 11:30 AM


blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah


HAHAHA Classic line.

Hell for awhile we were paying for abortions for people in other countries as well.

I personally think gov't should not be invovled with issues like this ( at least before third trimester). However, I also don't think my tax money should be going to it.
I don't think my tax money should be given to people who are going to sell Jezzzzzuzzz as the only way to recover from alcoholism or drug addiction. I don't like my money going to the sexual prohibitionists who think that teaching abstinence alone will solve any problems. I don't think my tax dollars should go to people promoting marriage as a way out of poverty.

That's the problem with this government. They don't do exactly what I want them to do.[/b][/quote]


PD I am with you on that one too!!

Glad to see you are for lowering taxs and cutting back big gov't wasteful spending!

You are becoming a true Conservative!

Nickatilynx
02-19-2004, 12:02 PM
I'd pay to have labret or J'springer aborted ;-))))

I know its over the 100th trimester...but hey ;-)))

Mike AI
02-19-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 19 2004, 12:10 PM
I'd pay to have labret or J'springer aborted ;-))))

I know its over the 100th trimester...but hey ;-)))


I am all in favor of retoactive abortions....


Should we start making a list?

Nickatilynx
02-19-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Feb 19 2004, 09:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Feb 19 2004, 09:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Feb 19 2004, 12:10 PM
I'd pay to have labret or J'springer aborted ;-))))

I know its over the 100th trimester...but hey ;-)))


I am all in favor of retoactive abortions....


Should we start making a list?[/b][/quote]
No!

Spanno would put me on it! ;-)))

Vick
02-19-2004, 12:21 PM
Why is this even getting press?
Why do some feel it is noteworthy?
Why the fuck cares and what is the big deal?
Abortion is legal (and SHOULD BE FREE TO LOW INCOME MOTHERS)


No skeletons in the closet here but plenty Toys in the Attic

JR
02-19-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Vick@Feb 19 2004, 09:29 AM
Why is this even getting press?
Why do some feel it is noteworthy?
Why the fuck cares and what is the big deal?
Abortion is legal (and SHOULD BE FREE TO LOW INCOME MOTHERS)


No skeletons in the closet here but plenty Toys in the Attic
because he is pro-life? hypocrisy? courting the religious right?

sarettah
02-19-2004, 12:58 PM
from: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0219-12.htm

............................

Regrettably, this perversion of presidential priorities is not limited to campaign rhetoric - it extends to how our increasingly limited tax dollars are being spent. Take the administration's new anti-obscenity push - a blast from our blue-nosed past. Bush's 2005 budget calls for a boost in funding for government efforts to crack down on the adult entertainment industry - one of the precious few non-terror-related programs to garner a spending increase.

I kid you not: While the White House is cutting back on its housing budget, veterans' benefits, and the National Institutes of Health, it's opening up the coffers to make sure you have a harder time downloading the Paris Hilton sexcapade on the Net.

But that's not even the worst of it. The Justice Department has recently assigned a team of FBI agents to focus exclusively on adult obscenity cases. That's right, with the war on terror in full swing, our war president is going to have a group of G-men doing nothing but working the porn beat when they could be tracking down - oh, I don't know - terrorist sleeper cells. Talk about your misguided allocation of manpower. I don't know about you, but I certainly feel safer knowing the feds are going to be keeping close tabs on Jenna Jameson.

We see the same loopy sense of right and wrong being played out in the Janet Jackson firestorm. Less than two weeks after the shock and bra of the Super Bowl, Bush's congressional cronies were already holding hearings on the matter. Compare that to the foot-dragging that followed 9/11. It took 14 months - and a candlelight vigil outside the White House by the victims' family members - before the president finally relented and the 9/11 Commission was created. Now that's indecent.

For the moral relativists in the Bush administration, the definition of sin seems to depend on whether the sinner can further their political purposes.

So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Victoria Plame is a win. Profiting from porno is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Cheney and Scalia shacking up in a duck blind is a win. Telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMD is a win. And so, apparently, is GOP staffers hacking into Senate computers and Tom DeLay illegally funneling corporate money to Texas politicians.

.........................................

sarettah
02-19-2004, 01:21 PM
Damn, finally found a reference to the topic that hadn't been pulled yet.......
although it does appear that only the Aussie papaers are running the story.....hmmm......

****************************************

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...255E401,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8722518%255E401,00.html)

Bush abortion smear as mud flies
Phillip Coorey
February 19, 2004

PRESIDENT Bush faced an extraordinary claim last night that he once paid for a girlfriend's abortion.

The latest smear in an increasingly dirty election campaign follows a two-pronged attack on his likely election opponent, Senator Kerry.

While Mr Bush and Senator Kerry have so far steered clear of personal attacks, their unofficial supporters are stooping deep into the gutter.

Senator Kerry has already successfully shrugged off rumours about infidelity.

He has also been besmirched by photos falsely linking him with anti-Vietnam War activist Jane Fonda.

Now paralysed porn king Larry Flynt is preparing to publish equally dubious claims that the pro-life Mr Bush once made a girlfriend have an abortion.

The abortion rumour started last week when rap star Moby, who dislikes Mr Bush, suggested that Democrats attack Mr Bush in his conservative constituencies.

"For example, you can go on all the pro-life (internet) chat rooms and say you're an outraged Right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion," he said.

Now Flynt, whose last political foray was a hamfisted run for Californian governor, plans to publish the abortion as fact in an upcoming book.

"I got the story nailed," he said. "I've talked to the woman's friends, I've tracked down the doctor who did the abortion, I tracked down the Bush people who arranged for the abortion."

The trouble for Senator Kerry is the Republicans, who have their backs to the wall at the moment, seize on such material as sanctioned mud-slinging by the Kerry camp.

"It's only February, and they have made clear they intend to run the dirtiest campaign in modern presidential politics," declared Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie last week.

PornoDoggy
02-19-2004, 01:31 PM
because he is pro-life? hypocrisy? courting the religious right? Somebody give JR a cigar (but not Cuban - that wouldn't be right).

Torone is away from his computer, so sarettah ... that is a pack of liberal lying mumbo jumbo that proves you've been brainwashed by the demacommies. Are you sure you live in America? Maybe you're from some socialist country like Canada or Massachusetts.

Vick
02-19-2004, 01:53 PM
All this further illustrates my point that the ONLY VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 2004 Is ....


..... Richard Milhouse Nixon


Tan, Rested and Dead


Vick's posts are sponsored by the Nixon in 2004 campaign

PornoDoggy
02-19-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Vick@Feb 19 2004, 02:01 PM
All this further illustrates my point that the ONLY VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 2004 Is ....


..... Richard Milhouse Nixon


Tan, Rested and Dead


Vick's posts are sponsored by the Nixon in 2004 campaign
Harry Truman will kick his ass all the way back to the white sands of San Clemente ...

PeerPatrick
02-19-2004, 02:16 PM
too bad his mom didn't feel the same way...along with that one chick whose kid caused most of the other wars. :nyanya:

Vick
02-19-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 19 2004, 02:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 19 2004, 02:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Feb 19 2004, 02:01 PM
All this further illustrates my point that the ONLY VIABLE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 2004 Is ....


..... Richard Milhouse Nixon


Tan, Rested and Dead


Vick's posts are sponsored by the Nixon in 2004 campaign
Harry Truman will kick his ass all the way back to the white sands of San Clemente ...[/b][/quote]
Ladies and Gentlemen at this time I would like to acknowledge our esteemed opposition

The Truman and Pornodoggy ticket

We expect to wear our nice Republican Cloth Coats and refer to Checkers often in our campaign

NIXON FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004
TAN, RESTED & DEAD

:groucho: :salute:




This post is spinstored by the Nixon in 2004 campaign -
yes you read correctly Spinstored

SykkBoy
02-19-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 19 2004, 02:42 AM
Todd,
wanna do a friendly $100 bet that Flynt will chicken out the SAME way he chickened out the last election he came up with "Bush story"?


or the same way he chickened out on the battle with ACACIA...

JR
02-19-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Feb 19 2004, 10:39 AM
because he is pro-life? hypocrisy? courting the religious right? Somebody give JR a cigar (but not Cuban - that wouldn't be right).

Torone is away from his computer, so sarettah ... that is a pack of liberal lying mumbo jumbo that proves you've been brainwashed by the demacommies. Are you sure you live in America? Maybe you're from some socialist country like Canada or Massachusetts.
vote Democrat 04'

Mike AI
02-19-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Feb 19 2004, 01:39 PM
because he is pro-life? hypocrisy? courting the religious right? Somebody give JR a cigar (but not Cuban - that wouldn't be right).

Torone is away from his computer, so sarettah ... that is a pack of liberal lying mumbo jumbo that proves you've been brainwashed by the demacommies. Are you sure you live in America? Maybe you're from some socialist country like Canada or Massachusetts.


PD I understand this thought, but lets face it - who else would these people vote for Kerry?

Politicans are always being called on their hypocracy.... Bush, Edwards, Clinton, etc.... the core still sticks with them.

[Labret]
02-22-2004, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 19 2004, 09:10 AM
I'd pay to have labret or J'springer aborted ;-))))

I know its over the 100th trimester...but hey ;-)))


Retroactive abortion is too good for the common spammer. The things that will happen to you in the re-education "camps" would make Torquemada weep.

Whats it like being the cockroaches of the industry?

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by [Labret]+Feb 22 2004, 02:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Feb 22 2004, 02:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Feb 19 2004, 09:10 AM
I'd pay to have labret or J'springer aborted ;-))))

I know its over the 100th trimester...but hey ;-)))


Retroactive abortion is too good for the common spammer. The things that will happen to you in the re-education "camps" would make Torquemada weep.

Whats it like being the cockroaches of the industry?[/b][/quote]
Labret, I LOVE when you make animals references in pornm industry....

once a beast master is always a beast webmaster
;-))))

[Labret]
02-22-2004, 05:09 AM
So in bizarro world, insects are animals uh?

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by [Labret]@Feb 22 2004, 05:17 AM
So in bizarro world, insects are animals uh?
yes, they are...everything living and breathing is a part of animal kingdom....

fucking Bush! His education efforts to educate America are failing miserably...

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 05:21 AM
and to fill the gap and void left by your "college education"

http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/inter...insects-01.html (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/intermediate/insects-01.html)

What is an Insect?

All around us there are tiny animals called insects. Scientists find so many new insects every year that they are amazed!

Peaches
02-22-2004, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 22 2004, 06:29 AM
and to fill the gap and void left by your "college education"

http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/inter...insects-01.html (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/intermediate/insects-01.html)

What is an Insect?

All around us there are tiny animals called insects. Scientists find so many new insects every year that they are amazed!
Silly Serge, you forgot that if the information didn't come from one of his illustrious professors, then it means nothing! B)

dig420
02-22-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Peaches+Feb 22 2004, 09:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Feb 22 2004, 09:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Feb 22 2004, 06:29 AM
and to fill the gap and void left by your "college education"

http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/inter...insects-01.html (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/intermediate/insects-01.html)

What is an Insect?

All around us there are tiny animals called insects. Scientists find so many new insects every year that they are amazed!
Silly Serge, you forgot that if the information didn't come from one of his illustrious professors, then it means nothing! B)[/b][/quote]
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by dig420+Feb 22 2004, 01:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dig420 @ Feb 22 2004, 01:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Peaches@Feb 22 2004, 09:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Feb 22 2004, 06:29 AM
and to fill the gap and void left by your "college education"

http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/inter...insects-01.html (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/intermediate/insects-01.html)

What is an Insect?

All around us there are tiny animals called insects. Scientists find so many new insects every year that they are amazed!
Silly Serge, you forgot that if the information didn't come from one of his illustrious professors, then it means nothing! B)
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait[/b][/quote]
Dig, it will come as a surprise to you, I know...
but you, worm, ameoba are ALL animals TOO!

what the fuck do they teach you in colleges in America?
;-)))

Buff
02-22-2004, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Feb 22 2004, 12:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Feb 22 2004, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -dig420@Feb 22 2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by -Peaches@Feb 22 2004, 09:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Feb 22 2004, 06:29 AM
and to fill the gap and void left by your "college education"

http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/inter...insects-01.html (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/intermediate/insects-01.html)

What is an Insect?

All around us there are tiny animals called insects. Scientists find so many new insects every year that they are amazed!
Silly Serge, you forgot that if the information didn't come from one of his illustrious professors, then it means nothing! B)
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait
Dig, it will come as a surprise to you, I know...
but you, worm, ameoba are ALL animals TOO!

what the fuck do they teach you in colleges in America?
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Serge, to answer your question, idiots like Labret "learn" this kind of stuff from their professors:

Are university professors in some sense smarter or more intelligent than ordinary mortals, or just more likely to be locked into left-leaning political ideologies with all four claws? Perhaps we shouldn’t ask one Robert Brandon, chair of the philosophy department at Duke University.

Brandon recently stepped into a hornets' nest when expressing his opinion on a controversy created by a student group on the campus calling itself the Duke Conservative Union (DCU). The DCU had taken out an ad in a Duke student news publication, The Chronicle, documenting the relative absence of conservatives among Duke University faculty. The DCU conducted a survey of faculty voter registration and found that across the several Duke University academic departments there are eight registered Republicans as opposed to 142 registered Democrats. This isn’t a whole lot of diversity of the political sort, and one suspects that were the numbers reversed, the howls of horror would be audible down here in Columbia. The group’s methodology – relying on party affiliation – might strike some as suspect. Party affiliation isn’t everything. After all, there are liberal Republicans, and I have met people describing themselves as Jeffersonian Democrats who are more conservative than I am. But I’ll let this pass in order to get to the meat of this article.

Brandon’s remarks – the product of a trained philosopher and chair of his department – are the sort that makes those of us associated with the subject cringe. Here is what Brandon initially said, in an interview published in The Chronicle: "We try to hire the best, smartest people available…. If, as John Stuart Mill said, stupid people are generally conservative, then there are lots of conservatives we will never hire. Mill’s analysis may go some way towards explaining the power of the Republican Party in our society and the relative scarcity of Republicans in academia. Players in the NBA tend to be taller than average. There is a good reason for this. Members of academia tend to be a bit smarter than average. There is a good reason for this, too."


Keep in mind this is the CHAIR of the PHILOSOPHY DEPARTMENT at DUKE!!!

Here is the community of the truly educated ridiculing that idiot for his logical fallacies (how can the chair of Duke's Philosophy department not be aware of the illicit conversion fallacy and others???):

http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates90.html

ENJOY -- and go easy on Labret -- he is only regurgitating what other idiots teach him.

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Buff@Feb 22 2004, 01:49 PM


ENJOY -- and go easy on Labret -- he is only regurgitating what other idiots teach him.
it's a pity...TOTAL lack of critical thinking...
where would I be if I didn't take with the grain (more like a POUND) of salt everything Marxisit historians taught me in college??????

Buff
02-22-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Feb 22 2004, 01:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Feb 22 2004, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Buff@Feb 22 2004, 01:49 PM


ENJOY -- and go easy on Labret -- he is only regurgitating what other idiots teach him.
it's a pity...TOTAL lack of critical thinking...
where would I be if I didn't take with the grain (more like a POUND) of salt everything Marxisit historians taught me in college??????[/b][/quote]
I want to know how someone gets a PHD in Philosophy without understanding basic logic...

The Truth Hurts
02-22-2004, 02:35 PM
Moby has become a puppet master for Democrat morons.

God, I love America.

Peaches
02-22-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by dig420@Feb 22 2004, 02:07 PM
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait
I am very pro-intellectualism. I have more respect for a poor smart person than a rich idiot. Teaching falsehoods under the guise of a tenure is NOT what most "intelligent" people call intellectualism, so to speak. :okthumb:

I'll add that IME, 90% of what you actually learn throughout life cannot even be written and published, let alone taught from a book. B)

dig420
02-22-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Peaches+Feb 22 2004, 02:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Feb 22 2004, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--dig420@Feb 22 2004, 02:07 PM
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait
I am very pro-intellectualism. I have more respect for a poor smart person than a rich idiot. Teaching falsehoods under the guise of a tenure is NOT what most "intelligent" people call intellectualism, so to speak. :okthumb:

I'll add that IME, 90% of what you actually learn throughout life cannot even be written and published, let alone taught from a book. B)[/b][/quote]
Aren't you the Opranaut who Serge had to publically slap down on GFY for espousing Georgia's decision to teach creationism? Might have been Carrie...

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by dig420+Feb 22 2004, 05:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dig420 @ Feb 22 2004, 05:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Peaches@Feb 22 2004, 02:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--dig420@Feb 22 2004, 02:07 PM
anti-intellectualism is probably the ugliest conservative trait
I am very pro-intellectualism. I have more respect for a poor smart person than a rich idiot. Teaching falsehoods under the guise of a tenure is NOT what most "intelligent" people call intellectualism, so to speak. :okthumb:

I'll add that IME, 90% of what you actually learn throughout life cannot even be written and published, let alone taught from a book. B)
Aren't you the Opranaut who Serge had to publically slap down on GFY for espousing Georgia's decision to teach creationism? Might have been Carrie...[/b][/quote]
Dig420, you should know by now,
I ONLY slap Peaches in private:
1) when her ass is available
2) when I get my wife's permission
;-))))

as a matter of fact the last time it was Peaches turn to slap me in relation to my remarks about Ken Lawson
;-)))

Peaches
02-22-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 22 2004, 06:44 PM
Dig420, you should know by now,
I ONLY slap Peaches in private:
1) when her ass is available
2) when I get my wife's permission
;-))))

as a matter of fact the last time it was Peaches turn to slap me in relation to my remarks about Ken Lawson
;-)))
:inlove:

At least Dig KINDA knows who I am now, even if he confuses me with others. He told me a couple of years ago I was newbie who was only agreeing with something Vegas Lee said in order to get brownie points with VL and I think it was as recently as a year ago when he said he'd never heard of me. I cried for weeks. :(

:P

dig420
02-22-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 22 2004, 06:50 PM

At least Dig KINDA knows who I am now, even if he confuses me with others. He told me a couple of years ago I was newbie who was only agreeing with something Vegas Lee said in order to get brownie points with VL and I think it was as recently as a year ago when he said he'd never heard of me. I cried for weeks. :(

:P
it's nothing personal, I have poor short-term memory
:hic:

Winetalk.com
02-22-2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by dig420+Feb 22 2004, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dig420 @ Feb 22 2004, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Feb 22 2004, 06:50 PM

At least Dig KINDA knows who I am now, even if he confuses me with others. He told me a couple of years ago I was newbie who was only agreeing with something Vegas Lee said in order to get brownie points with VL and I think it was as recently as a year ago when he said he'd never heard of me. I cried for weeks. :(

:P
it's nothing personal, I have poor short-term memory
:hic:[/b][/quote]
don't indulge and you'll do fine
;-)))