Canadiens lack of freedom.

[Mike AI]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110477,00.html

I guess there is some advantages about living the the States. For example, the First Amendment.

Could you imagine if something like this was tried in the US?

Wonder what else the Canadien Gov't has been hiding from its people.....

[RawAlex]

Mike, you read way too much into a court proceeding.

This is a serial killer beyond all understanding. The police, the courts, and the people working for them try to assure that there are no holes, no leaks, no media speculation of the "bloody glove"... they don't want an OJ on this one. They want this fucker never to be able to do anything except be someone's bitch for the rest of his days.

60+ women went missing over a very long period of time, and they have spent over a year going those the farm and identifying victims (often by trace DNA, small body parts, etc, as this guy tended to chop them pretty fine).

I know more than enough about this case, I don't need to know any more.

Free speech without limits is as dangerous as a loaded pistol in a baby's hand. It goes both ways.

Alex

[masterp74]

Until there is a shortage of Tim Hourton's coffee, they are not that concern about that . They are concerned on when's the hockey games on. 'eh :matey:

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 8 2004, 01:40 PM
Mike, you read way too much into a court proceeding.

This is a serial killer beyond all understanding. The police, the courts, and the people working for them try to assure that there are no holes, no leaks, no media speculation of the "bloody glove"... they don't want an OJ on this one. They want this fucker never to be able to do anything except be someone's bitch for the rest of his days.

60+ women went missing over a very long period of time, and they have spent over a year going those the farm and identifying victims (often by trace DNA, small body parts, etc, as this guy tended to chop them pretty fine).

I know more than enough about this case, I don't need to know any more.

Free speech without limits is as dangerous as a loaded pistol in a baby's hand. It goes both ways.

Alex



Alex, I understand issues of keeping the case tight. But your quote about Free Speech without limits is troublesome.

It is kind of shocking coming from a guy who spend a lot of time bashing Conservatives on the Patriot Act.

So when the US Gov't controls things under a Republican it is wrong, but when Canadians do it, it is OK!

:okthumb:

Life must be so nice and simple as a Canadian!

[RawAlex]

"whatever!"

Alex

[masterp74]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 8 2004, 11:31 AM
"whatever!"

Alex
"whatever!" 'eh



I agree Mike, I lived in Montreal last year for 5 months and loved the New York girls coming up to Montral for college because the drinking age is 18 & up! :hic:


and the bars closed at 3:00am


Is that a great fuckin' country or what? 'eh :salute: (Canada Flag)

[Billy]

I like Canada !

Well take away the cold weather!

[Bishop]

I don't remember hearing much about this on the news when I was in Vancouver. This was before the guy was caught. He was picking hookers up in the Hastings area and nobody knew they were missing. Very sad story.

I just finished watching the movie Snatch. It figures the guy owned a pig farm.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Billy@Feb 8 2004, 11:39 AM
I like Canada !

Well take away the cold weather!
it wasn't until the last month I was there that I found out Montreal was the single girl website capital of the world. so many hot sexy chicks that I wanted to do in-depth interviews and breast exams.

If I do decide to move up to the great white north, Montreal will be the home of masterp74 disco fever townhouse :hic:



Montreal ladies please post your stats below.


O' Canada :matey:



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[Mike AI]

No doubt Canada has a lot of hot chicks! It is definately a redeeming quality.


Alex - funny how you love to criticize US leadership and laws, but when the spot light turn on your country for a second.... well... "Whatever"....

:lol:

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 03:40 PM
No doubt Canada has a lot of hot chicks! It is definately a redeeming quality.


Alex - funny how you love to criticize US leadership and laws, but when the spot light turn on your country for a second.... well... "Whatever"....

:lol:
Reachin' pretty far, Mikey ... reaching pretty far.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 8 2004, 05:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 8 2004, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 03:40 PM
No doubt Canada has a lot of hot chicks! It is definately a redeeming quality.


Alex - funny how you love to criticize US leadership and laws, but when the spot light turn on your country for a second.... well... "Whatever"....

:lol:
Reachin' pretty far, Mikey ... reaching pretty far.[/b][/quote]


PD I have a feeling you would be happy in Canada.


Do you not beleive in the First Amendment? Did you even read the article?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by Billy@Feb 8 2004, 02:39 PM
I like Canada !

Well take away the cold weather!
PUSSY!! :P

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Feb 8 2004, 05:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Feb 8 2004, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -PornoDoggy@Feb 8 2004, 05:08 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 03:40 PM
No doubt Canada has a lot of hot chicks! It is definately a redeeming quality.


Alex - funny how you love to criticize US leadership and laws, but when the spot light turn on your country for a second.... well... "Whatever"....

:lol:
Reachin' pretty far, Mikey ... reaching pretty far.


PD I have a feeling you would be happy in Canada.


Do you not beleive in the First Amendment? Did you even read the article?[/b][/quote]
Yes, Mikey, I read the article. And yes, I am a firm supporter of the 1st Ammendment.... but that doesn't apply to Canada. So your question is really rather pointless.

Do I think they ought to allow reporting on the case? Yeah - but that and $40 U.S. will buy me a cup of coffee in a Canadian Starbucks. The jury pool arguement makes some sense - and the next time I turn on the news to be bombarded with Kobe Bryant, Robert Blake, Martha Stewart, Laci Peterson, and [insert latest tragic killing of young whte girl here], I might envy our Canadian neighbors

If a Canadian posted a comprable bit of mediocre thinking about denying attorneys to suspects charged uner the Patriot [sic] Act, you'd be all over it like stink on shit. I guess that I never understood why the mental midget America haters on other boards get under your skin so much.

You think just like they do.



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[[Labret]]

Canada's hate speech laws are almost Draconian.

[Evil Chris]

Oh yeah we're REALLLY repressed here.

Please, invade us and deliver us from our tyrant leaders.

[RawAlex]

Chris, did you have a permit to say that? Are you sure they haven't bigged your computer? They are coming to get you! Your are going to be repressed.

Mike, you are reaching so far, I am surprised you didn't fall over. :-)

Alex

[Evil Chris]

Alex... eeek you're right. Could be that CSIS is already watching me!

[Mike AI]

Hey guys I was not knocking Canada, just pointing out having a First Amendment makes the US different.

:D

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 11:50 PM
Hey guys I was not knocking Canada, just pointing out having a First Amendment makes the US different.

:D
Yup...we have the the 1st Amendment, yet we just spent a week with everyone talking about seeing a boobie on the Superbowl...

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy+Feb 8 2004, 11:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hell Puppy @ Feb 8 2004, 11:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 11:50 PM
Hey guys I was not knocking Canada, just pointing out having a First Amendment makes the US different.

:D
Yup...we have the the 1st Amendment, yet we just spent a week with everyone talking about seeing a boobie on the Superbowl...[/b][/quote]
Well, that's just the way two different societies have evol.... er, excuse the fuck out of me, changed over time.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 9 2004, 12:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 9 2004, 12:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Hell Puppy@Feb 8 2004, 11:54 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 11:50 PM
Hey guys I was not knocking Canada, just pointing out having a First Amendment makes the US different.

:D
Yup...we have the the 1st Amendment, yet we just spent a week with everyone talking about seeing a boobie on the Superbowl...
Well, that's just the way two different societies have evol.... er, excuse the fuck out of me, changed over time.[/b][/quote]
HAHA been waiting to use the Evolved line for awhile huh PD?

It is a good one!

You will not get me defending people who don't beleive in the scientific theory of evolution!

[OldJeff]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 9 2004, 12:43 AM

You will not get me defending people who don't beleive in the scientific theory of evolution!
Uh, Mike....

That would be the current Administration :agrin:

I didn't bother to read the article, It is really not my concern what happens in Canada, I don't pay taxes there, and I don't live there (never will either, too freaking cold)

As for the First Amendment, Dubya and company is doing a great deal to use the constitution as their party toilet paper.

Faith based funding, Patriot Act, anyone that can't see the constitution trampling going on in this administration might want to borrow Stevie Wonders eyes.

[magicmike]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 8 2004, 10:06 AM
Wonder what else the Canadien Gov't has been hiding from its people.....
This has been all over the news, there wasn't anything in that article that I hadn't heard before.

But they always have coverage bans on big cases like this for fairness.

Like the bernardo case back years ago now.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by OldJeff+Feb 9 2004, 07:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Feb 9 2004, 07:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 9 2004, 12:43 AM

You will not get me defending people who don't beleive in the scientific theory of evolution!
Uh, Mike....

That would be the current Administration :agrin:

I didn't bother to read the article, It is really not my concern what happens in Canada, I don't pay taxes there, and I don't live there (never will either, too freaking cold)

As for the First Amendment, Dubya and company is doing a great deal to use the constitution as their party toilet paper.

Faith based funding, Patriot Act, anyone that can't see the constitution trampling going on in this administration might want to borrow Stevie Wonders eyes.[/b][/quote]


Nah that was the people in Georgia. Keep up with current events. The Bush Admin have never said anything about replacing evolution in public schools.

Nice try. Come again.

As far as Canadian laws, I agree, I don't live there, I could care less. I just find it amusing that the Cadadians who frequently post on the boards slamming US laws, policy and administration in the US. So I was just pointing out some of their apprent politcal short comings.

[Evil Chris]

"some of their apprent politcal short comings"

Some? That's one... and I don't even see it as a shortcoming. What else ya got?

Mike, you said that you though PD would be happy living in Canada. I think you would be too.

[Vick]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Feb 9 2004, 01:31 PM
would be happy living in Canada. I think you would be too.
Nah I think Canadians are crazy
It' too cold for anyone to live there,
even though the little I've seen of Canada was very nice, even their bums were clean - well sort of

[JR]

Originally posted by OldJeff+Feb 9 2004, 04:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Feb 9 2004, 04:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 9 2004, 12:43 AM

You will not get me defending people who don't beleive in the scientific theory of evolution!
Uh, Mike....

That would be the current Administration :agrin:
[/b][/quote]
i just fell out of my chair laughing!


:rokk:

[JR]

i have been to about 20 countries and i can say that most western countries seem to be pretty much even as a general rule in terms of human rights, freedom of speach etc. i dont think its fair to point out exceptions of the rule to make a point that it is the rule, or use that exception to point to the fact that because that exception exists means one place is better than the other. the negatives and positives of any country is equally long.

not too long ago the US executed a retard. the EU has long since abolished the death penalty. some might say that makes the US barbaric. it would take a pretty tremendous stretch of logic to say that exception to the rule was not barbaric. does that make the entire process barbaric? its just a matter of taste and opinion. the list of examples and pros and cons contrasting any two countries can go on and on.

in the end, its about perception, perspective and belief and not about proveable fact.



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[Nickatilynx]

Nah I think Canadians are crazy


WIBBLE!!



even though the little I've seen of Canada was very nice, even their bums were clean

ahahahahahahahaha really?????

OK , We use bidets ;-)))

[Evil Chris]

I get a laugh whenever I hear someone mention how it's too cold in Canada.
The weather in the coldest parts of Canada that have any significant population isn't much different than that of most of the US north-east. (the most populated parts of the US).

Also, usually the ones who complain about the cold have the whitest complexions I've ever seen because they never go outside.

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Feb 9 2004, 02:11 PM
I get a laugh whenever I hear someone mention how it's too cold in Canada.
The weather in the coldest parts of Canada that have any significant population isn't much different than that of most of the US north-east. (the most populated parts of the US).

Also, usually the ones who complain about the cold have the whitest complexions I've ever seen because they never go outside.
Its quite warm today! 30F! (-1C)



also, Mike, you beleive you are told everything by your government? That your government doesnt gag anyone?

riiight...

[Nickatilynx]

btw...

I watched Bush on "Meet the Press"....OMFG!!!!!!

If you haven't seen it , watch it. You can tell everytime he needed to be "economical with the truth". He is not even an average liar , how he has reached the top in politics is amazing.

I believe he may go down in history as one of the worst Presidents.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 9 2004, 11:48 AM
Nah that was the people in Georgia.
Speaking of keeping up with current events..... it was ONE person in GA and she had her head handed to her on a platter over it. :nyanya:

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Feb 9 2004, 02:11 PM
I get a laugh whenever I hear someone mention how it's too cold in Canada.
The weather in the coldest parts of Canada that have any significant population isn't much different than that of most of the US north-east. (the most populated parts of the US).

Also, usually the ones who complain about the cold have the whitest complexions I've ever seen because they never go outside.
Haha. I think Georgia is cold.

[Evil Chris]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Feb 9 2004, 03:27 PM
btw...

I watched Bush on "Meet the Press"....OMFG!!!!!!

If you haven't seen it , watch it. You can tell everytime he needed to be "economical with the truth". He is not even an average liar , how he has reached the top in politics is amazing.

I believe he may go down in history as one of the worst Presidents.
I saw him on the "exclusive" Dateline interview and I got the very same impression. Doesn't he have people on staff to dream up answers to potential questions for him?

Yikes...

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Peaches+Feb 9 2004, 02:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Feb 9 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Feb 9 2004, 11:48 AM
Nah that was the people in Georgia.
Speaking of keeping up with current events..... it was ONE person in GA and she had her head handed to her on a platter over it. :nyanya:[/b][/quote]
Correct. Technically.

Mike is also correct - technically - in saying that the Administration played no role in the hoopla over the GA decision/reversal.

But if you think she acted alone, or that there is absolutely no connection between the Bushites and her - you've go your head up your as...er, in the sand. Make no mistake about it - the born again bimbo who made that decision is NOT some isolated idiot operating alone, nor is she that far removed from the way of thought of a great many people in this administration - or at the very least, to whom this administration owes its existence.

The board of education in Kansas actually proceeded some way down the bureaucratic path toward removing the teaching of evolution from public schools in Kansas. At least five states, including my home (Illinois) and my former home (Missouri) do not include the word evolution in the office state curriculum, as a result of the efforts of exactly the same sort of people. The religious right runs seminars for potential school board candidates (local and state) in an effort to gain control of them to further their agenda. The issue is NOT dead in Georgia – they will be back.

Now please go about your business. JR will deny the existence of the religious right, or dispute that they have any sway over the Bush Administration, and lead us in a chorus of “don’t worry, be happy.” Carrie will come along and provide the pagan perspective on why “creationism is just all right with me.” Torone can follow with an explanation of how I am a puppet of the demacommie liberal press and have addled my brain with fluorinated water. Mike AI can dismiss me as a Canadian – probably a (gasp) FRENCH Canadian.

Yeah, let’s keep fighting about evolution. Welcome to the 19-fucking-20s. Maybe William Jennings Bryant didn't lose as bad as it seemed.



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[Vick]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Feb 9 2004, 02:11 PM
I get a laugh whenever I hear someone mention how it's too cold in Canada.
The weather in the coldest parts of Canada that have any significant population isn't much different than that of most of the US north-east. (the most populated parts of the US).

EC - you just proved my point, that cold is effecting you :biglaugh:
Can't think properly when the temp doesn't get above freezing for weeks at a time

Where I live - http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/cli...y/monthly/21075 (http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/climatology/monthly/21075)
January High temp average of 41F


Montreal
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/clim...301?from=search (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/climatology/monthly/CAXX0301?from=search)
January High temp average of 21F

and that's before we get to snow fall, permafrost etc ......

[J'sdude]

I knew I said I wouldn't post again, but sometimes you just gotta laugh at the undereducated (we learn how to spell in Canada btw. A real asset when dealing with the educated) and those who really have no idea of what is up and what is down in the world. OK, Mike. You made some money...you got on the net when a gorilla could make money....no real talent necessary. Because when I see you post gibberish, I gotta say something. Actually nothing really because you already have shot yourself in the foot way too many times imho. You see, Mike...may I call you Mike....we live in a free country....you do not. We do not have to fight to protect our freedom of speech. You do. I personally do not give a shit if the story of this pig farmer is broadcast or not. I especially don't care if it is on Fox, which I am sure is where you get your window on the world. It is a non issue. I sincerely hope you were just doing this to boost oprano's iffy Alexa rating. Because if you were not, its time to bury yourself in monkey wrenches and horsepower....the American waydude.



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[J'sdude]

And the silence was deafening.

[masterp74]

I like hockey. don't know why people bag on it.


I also like Rush. great band :matey: