OrgasmCash

[Hooper]

Time for the usual "hi, lets do a traffic trade" icq fun.

here's my convo:

214302516 (03:52PM): hello...
Orgasmcrissy has changed status to Online (03:52PM)
Orgasmcrissy (03:52PM): I'm Christina
Me (03:52PM): let me guess. you work for orgasm crash and yo'ure looking for traffic trades
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): yes

Me (03:53PM): you're new arent you.
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): yes I am
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM):
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): how did you know
Me (03:53PM): what, do they give you all the same icq list everytime a new sales person sits down?
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): no
Me (03:53PM): where did you get my icq then?
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): I was prospecting and I found you
Me (03:53PM): cause we're not friends.
Me (03:54PM): oh. so you harvested the boards.
Orgasmcrissy (03:54PM): no
Me (03:54PM): go away. i'm putting you on ignore now.

[Mike AI]

HAHAHA This is one of the funniest post of the year!!!

OragasmCash - IE Python is the biggest group of thieves in this industry. It is sad because at one time they were considered one of the elite companies, had a name good as gold.

Now they are filthy scammers.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 03:54 PM
HAHAHA This is one of the funniest post of the year!!!

OragasmCash - IE Python is the biggest group of thieves in this industry. It is sad because at one time they were considered one of the elite companies, had a name good as gold.

Now they are filthy scammers.
They dont pay their spam hosting bills either.

[dantheman]

hooper can I hit you up next :)

[Hooper]

i'd be nice to you dan, cause i've heard of you.

i dont think orgasm and pythong are one in the same really.. are they?

[ulfie]

Originally posted by Hooper@Jan 14 2004, 04:15 PM
i'd be nice to you dan, cause i've heard of you.

i dont think orgasm and pythong are one in the same really.. are they?
Their offices are in the same building but I have no idea if they are related or not.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by ulfie+Jan 14 2004, 04:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ulfie @ Jan 14 2004, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Hooper@Jan 14 2004, 04:15 PM
i'd be nice to you dan, cause i've heard of you.

i dont think orgasm and pythong are one in the same really.. are they?
Their offices are in the same building but I have no idea if they are related or not.[/b][/quote]
Come on guys.... put your thinking caps on.

I want to play 3 card monte with ya'll.

[Buff]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 14 2004, 03:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 14 2004, 03:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -ulfie@Jan 14 2004, 04:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Hooper@Jan 14 2004, 04:15 PM
i'd be nice to you dan, cause i've heard of you.

i dont think orgasm and pythong are one in the same really.. are they?
Their offices are in the same building but I have no idea if they are related or not.
Come on guys.... put your thinking caps on.

I want to play 3 card monte with ya'll.[/b][/quote]
I'll play you in Texas Hold 'em, but that's about it!!!

[DrGuile]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 03:54 PM
HAHAHA This is one of the funniest post of the year!!!

OragasmCash - IE Python is the biggest group of thieves in this industry. It is sad because at one time they were considered one of the elite companies, had a name good as gold.

Now they are filthy scammers.
Python and Orgasm are indeed like brothers, but you cant be found guilty for what your brother did.

At least pythons actually have sites....

[LadyMischief]

Yeah I got the same spam. First time I've been accosted on ICQ by someone for business like that without them knowing a damn thing about me or what I do.. heh.

[wig]

They are two different companies. There are other adult companies who are also in the same building.

We have done business with both of them for many years. We have had no problems with them whatsoever and we run a tight ship.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by wig@Jan 14 2004, 05:42 PM
They are two different companies. There are other adult companies who are also in the same building.

We have done business with both of them for many years. We have had no problems with them whatsoever and we run a tight ship.


WIG would you say that they are run ethically? I am not necessarily refering to paying out webmasters, but rather surfers.

I know you do business with them, but have you seen their join forms? have you gone through the process?

It has been documented time and time again about the games they play with credit cards, craming, and such.

I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....

[*KK*]

They are not the same companies.

Quite a lot of pots in this business too.

Not speaking of anyone in particular.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by *KK*@Jan 14 2004, 06:00 PM
They are not the same companies.

Quite a lot of pots in this business too.

Not speaking of anyone in particular.
DING!

Someone just won a free trip to Curaco!!

Not going to name any names.

Just because people have multible company names, and set up things offshore to try and hide, and misdirect people, does not mean they are the same principals behind it.

IF you want to beleive in the wizzard of Oz, by all means continue to beleive. But some of us have seen the guy behind the curtain and know the real deal.

[wig]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 14 2004, 05:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 14 2004, 05:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Jan 14 2004, 05:42 PM
They are two different companies. There are other adult companies who are also in the same building.

We have done business with both of them for many years. We have had no problems with them whatsoever and we run a tight ship.


WIG would you say that they are run ethically? I am not necessarily refering to paying out webmasters, but rather surfers.

I know you do business with them, but have you seen their join forms? have you gone through the process?

It has been documented time and time again about the games they play with credit cards, craming, and such.

I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....[/b][/quote]
Mike,

I can only speak for my dealings with them. People are free to look at what they do with WTS and opine, but I stand by my statement.

There ARE many pots in this business... it's just that some pots do not know they are pots. B)

...and mike, i trust that your last sentence was not aimed at WTS. :P

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by wig+Jan 14 2004, 07:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Jan 14 2004, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 05:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--wig@Jan 14 2004, 05:42 PM
They are two different companies. There are other adult companies who are also in the same building.

We have done business with both of them for many years. We have had no problems with them whatsoever and we run a tight ship.


WIG would you say that they are run ethically? I am not necessarily refering to paying out webmasters, but rather surfers.

I know you do business with them, but have you seen their join forms? have you gone through the process?

It has been documented time and time again about the games they play with credit cards, craming, and such.

I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....
Mike,

I can only speak for my dealings with them. People are free to look at what they do with WTS and opine, but I stand by my statement.

There ARE many pots in this business... it's just that some pots do not know they are pots. B)

...and mike, i trust that your last sentence was not aimed at WTS. :P[/b][/quote]


We all have to do what we have to to get on by....

[cj]

Mike, companies partner up on things without necessarily being owned/run by the same group of people as you are suggesting.

You are often asked directnic questions and say 'thats not part of my day to day business...'. Not that i'm suggesting directnic pushes the limits like the companies you are referring to because I know you don't, but i'm sure if we looked, we could find plenty of people who find YOUR business practices unethical.

In 3 years time you will probably add some cross sells or self installing diallers or whatever to your sites just like when you started spamming 3 years after everyone else ...

Sometimes you have to just pull your head in and realize you don't know everything about everybody else's business :okthumb:

[wig]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 14 2004, 07:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 14 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -wig@Jan 14 2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by -Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 05:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--wig@Jan 14 2004, 05:42 PM
They are two different companies. There are other adult companies who are also in the same building.

We have done business with both of them for many years. We have had no problems with them whatsoever and we run a tight ship.


WIG would you say that they are run ethically? I am not necessarily refering to paying out webmasters, but rather surfers.

I know you do business with them, but have you seen their join forms? have you gone through the process?

It has been documented time and time again about the games they play with credit cards, craming, and such.

I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....
Mike,

I can only speak for my dealings with them. People are free to look at what they do with WTS and opine, but I stand by my statement.

There ARE many pots in this business... it's just that some pots do not know they are pots. B)

...and mike, i trust that your last sentence was not aimed at WTS. :P


We all have to do what we have to to get on by....[/b][/quote]
That is exactly what I expected from you.

[Rolo]

Originally posted by cj@Jan 14 2004, 04:42 PM
In 3 years time you will probably add some cross sells or self installing diallers or whatever to your sites just like when you started spamming 3 years after everyone else ...
In 3 years time that might be too late...

[Carrie]

Hell I'm already planning on cross-sells, but NOT pre-checked. My partner is looking around now deciding on who/what would work best there.

[cj]

Originally posted by Rolo+Jan 14 2004, 07:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rolo @ Jan 14 2004, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Jan 14 2004, 04:42 PM
In 3 years time you will probably add some cross sells or self installing diallers or whatever to your sites just like when you started spamming 3 years after everyone else ...
In 3 years time that might be too late...[/b][/quote]
that just proves my point even further ;-)

jump on the bandwagon too late and it will be overcrowded ...

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by Carrie@Jan 14 2004, 07:56 PM
Hell I'm already planning on cross-sells, but NOT pre-checked. My partner is looking around now deciding on who/what would work best there.
a year late, a dollar short

[BradShaw]

Vanderpool "scams". Sure the money is buried in his homeland of Curacao.

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 03:45 PM

Someone just won a free trip to Curaco!!

Not going to name any names.

Just because people have multible company names, and set up things offshore to try and hide, and misdirect people, does not mean they are the same principals behind it.

IF you want to beleive in the wizzard of Oz, by all means continue to beleive. But some of us have seen the guy behind the curtain and know the real deal.
Thats Curacao, Michael, I go every year :)

While I'm sure that some companies have a corporate setup that would make the Rubiks cube look like childs play, labeling someone as owning a company just because they share the same space is a rather childish way of assigning blame.

CJ is right, people tend to get together on things that make sense, whether its sharing an office building or putting a site in a program for more exposure, it doesn't always mean things are what they seem.

Just out of curiousity -- and I'll probably be sorry I asked lol -- what do you have against Python anyway? I've seen alot of negative accusations come from your fingers lately, and I'm just wondering what has caused you to be so vocal?

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 06:53 PM
I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....
Be honest: have you gone through and made sure that there are no sites which "fuck over surfers" who have a domain registered at DirectNic? :awinky:

[wig]

Originally posted by Peaches+Jan 14 2004, 08:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Jan 14 2004, 08:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Jan 14 2004, 06:53 PM
I guess as long as you get paid, it does not matter if they fuck over surfers....
Be honest: have you gone through and made sure that there are no sites which "fuck over surfers" who have a domain registered at DirectNic? :awinky:[/b][/quote]
Mike passed out all the thinking caps and apparently was left without one. :D

[Carrie]

Originally posted by slavdogg+Jan 14 2004, 08:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Jan 14 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Carrie@Jan 14 2004, 07:56 PM
Hell I'm already planning on cross-sells, but NOT pre-checked. My partner is looking around now deciding on who/what would work best there.
a year late, a dollar short[/b][/quote]
I didn't say it was new Slav, just said even *I* am going to do it.
A year ago I didn't have a paysite! :)

[Carrie]

I think what we're seeing with Mike is just a serious case of "tired of putting up with the bullshit". Usually goes along with entering a higher level of the playing field and finding out things/people aren't what you thought they were. Happens in every business... corporate, politics, hell even pizza stores. :)

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Carrie@Jan 14 2004, 06:17 PM
I think what we're seeing with Mike is just a serious case of "tired of putting up with the bullshit". Usually goes along with entering a higher level of the playing field and finding out things/people aren't what you thought they were. Happens in every business... corporate, politics, hell even pizza stores. :)
Cmon Carrie, Michael's been in this business long enough that nothing should come as a surprise. Regardless of what anyone is doing right now I doubt there is anywhere near the amount of shadiness going on that was prevalent a couple of years ago. I've known him for years and have often said he falls from his high horse right onto his soap box on occasion. I'm just curious as to what's set him off this time and what causes the vocality about his thoughts.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Hooper@Jan 14 2004, 03:52 PM
Time for the usual "hi, lets do a traffic trade" icq fun.

here's my convo:

214302516 (03:52PM): hello...
Orgasmcrissy has changed status to Online (03:52PM)
Orgasmcrissy (03:52PM): I'm Christina
Me (03:52PM): let me guess. you work for orgasm crash and yo'ure looking for traffic trades
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): yes

Me (03:53PM): you're new arent you.
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): yes I am
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM):
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): how did you know
Me (03:53PM): what, do they give you all the same icq list everytime a new sales person sits down?
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): no
Me (03:53PM): where did you get my icq then?
Orgasmcrissy (03:53PM): I was prospecting and I found you
Me (03:53PM): cause we're not friends.
Me (03:54PM): oh. so you harvested the boards.
Orgasmcrissy (03:54PM): no
Me (03:54PM): go away. i'm putting you on ignore now.
Hey Hoop...

I figured youd enjoy this threads companion thread...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...threadid=221275 (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221275)