another sign of dieing business...

[Winetalk.com]

no pisses ANYWHERE before convention....

that sux!
;-)))

[Hooper]

i think all the pissers have lost the "fire" that they had inside and all the newbies are either too afraid that they might invoke the wrath of someone like yourself serge or they dont know the value of some bad pr.

[Evil Chris]

you're both shaving, cheating, dirtbags.

Let it be known. :lol:

[Mike AI]

What is there to piss about?

That and everyone is working.....


Plus its the Holidays....

[ulfie]

Dying or maturing industry?

[mojobill]

Like Mike said.. whats there to piss about?

Everyone is feeling the same 'heat', and it's evident that everyone has informally agreed, that the 'big dick' displays of shows past are not effective nor do they have an ROI worth persuing.... hence a limit on the 'parties' being thrown...

Maybe the industry finally IS maturing, as ulfie said... and it's time...

[Evil Chris]

The one thing I've noticed is the newer young crowd attending conventions now. There has been quite a turnaround of our marketing webmasters, many of whom now seem to only be in this industry to party at the various conventions.

We all used to be there... in varying degress. I myself have toned it down considerably in the past couple of years, focusing more on business at shows.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Dec 18 2003, 10:41 AM
The one thing I've noticed is the newer young crowd attending conventions now. There has been quite a turnaround of our marketing webmasters, many of whom now seem to only be in this industry to party at the various conventions.

We all used to be there... in varying degress. I myself have toned it down considerably in the past couple of years, focusing more on business at shows.


Proff you are becoming an old man!!

:P

[Evil Chris]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Dec 18 2003, 11:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Dec 18 2003, 11:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Evil Chris@Dec 18 2003, 10:41 AM
The one thing I've noticed is the newer young crowd attending conventions now. There has been quite a turnaround of our marketing webmasters, many of whom now seem to only be in this industry to party at the various conventions.

We all used to be there... in varying degress. I myself have toned it down considerably in the past couple of years, focusing more on business at shows.


Proff you are becoming an old man!!

:P[/b][/quote]
Indeed!
Becoming a father had nothing to do with it... lol

[Rolo]

I would love too see pissing with VISA and MasterCard and/or their acquiring banks, however they are too scared to post - they are only lurking at boards... :ph34r:

[Toolz]

Though ARS has always taken the low-key approach I'm glad we're the ones around with the continuing tradition of low-key business effective parties, both the Gameworks party in the past and the newer Webmaster Poker Tour (2nd incarnation in Vegas) are great opportunities to talk to webmasters without 150 decibels of dance music kicking in your ear.

And Old Fold, I feel like I missed out on the tradition last year, I'll have to join you and the Gravel Voice at the door along with our new blood John V :)

[JohnV]

Toolz,

Looking forward to more of your wisdom....the learning never ends. Oh yeah, and don't forget about our black-ops plan either :ph34r: lol

[Toolz]

Originally posted by JohnV@Dec 18 2003, 08:42 AM
Toolz,

Looking forward to more of your wisdom....the learning never ends. Oh yeah, and don't forget about our black-ops plan either :ph34r: lol
So many ninja plans, so little time :)

[*KK*]

Eh, there's till next week Serge ;)

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by *KK*@Dec 18 2003, 01:11 PM
Eh, there's till next week Serge ;)
Ever the optimist eh KK? :P

[*KK*]

Originally posted by TheEnforcer+Dec 18 2003, 10:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheEnforcer @ Dec 18 2003, 10:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--*KK*@Dec 18 2003, 01:11 PM
Eh, there's till next week Serge ;)
Ever the optimist eh KK? :P[/b][/quote]
But of course

[MikeFold]

Originally posted by Toolz@Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM
Though ARS has always taken the low-key approach I'm glad we're the ones around with the continuing tradition of low-key business effective parties, both the Gameworks party in the past and the newer Webmaster Poker Tour (2nd incarnation in Vegas) are great opportunities to talk to webmasters without 150 decibels of dance music kicking in your ear.

And Old Fold, I feel like I missed out on the tradition last year, I'll have to join you and the Gravel Voice at the door along with our new blood John V :)
I await your presence and the company....
:agrin:

[Sharpie]

Originally posted by MikeFold+Dec 18 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MikeFold @ Dec 18 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Toolz@Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM
Though ARS has always taken the low-key approach I'm glad we're the ones around with the continuing tradition of low-key business effective parties, both the Gameworks party in the past and the newer Webmaster Poker Tour (2nd incarnation in Vegas) are great opportunities to talk to webmasters without 150 decibels of dance music kicking in your ear.

And Old Fold, I feel like I missed out on the tradition last year, I'll have to join you and the Gravel Voice at the door along with our new blood John V :)
I await your presence and the company....
:agrin:[/b][/quote]
He lives and breathes!

Good to see ya Fold....

[dantheman]

Originally posted by MikeFold+Dec 18 2003, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MikeFold @ Dec 18 2003, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Toolz@Dec 18 2003, 12:50 PM
Though ARS has always taken the low-key approach I'm glad we're the ones around with the continuing tradition of low-key business effective parties, both the Gameworks party in the past and the newer Webmaster Poker Tour (2nd incarnation in Vegas) are great opportunities to talk to webmasters without 150 decibels of dance music kicking in your ear.

And Old Fold, I feel like I missed out on the tradition last year, I'll have to join you and the Gravel Voice at the door along with our new blood John V :)
I await your presence and the company....
:agrin:[/b][/quote]
hey mike, how's the knee? you ready for some more pool at 3am :) tell rb to bring his game. :ph34r:

[MikeFold]

:)

still kicking....
just had some strange sciatica related probs sharpie
all those years of sitting on my ass at the monitor

pool is good....you're on!!

[nlphoto]

Originally posted by MikeFold@Dec 18 2003, 11:49 AM
:)

still kicking....
just had some strange sciatica related probs sharpie
all those years of sitting on my ass at the monitor

pool is good....you're on!!
and at a Noritsu... :P

[BradShaw]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 18 2003, 06:13 AM
no pisses ANYWHERE before convention....

that sux!
;-)))
Serge, I try, but there are no worthy opponents anymore. Just sad losers like amp and steve jones who accept defeat out of self pity.

Hell I just posted on GFY that I heard Steve was suppying his models under 21 with booze and or drugs.

[Mike AI]

I saw Steve's new house and car - I think you are just jealous Brad!

:P

[pornoman]

Toolz,

I think there are a few places you should take John for some training..

[Toolz]

Originally posted by pornoman@Dec 18 2003, 12:08 PM
Toolz,

I think there are a few places you should take John for some training..
Your bathroom after a Tequila and Raw Steak dinner?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by pornoman@Dec 18 2003, 03:08 PM
Toolz,

I think there are a few places you should take John for some training..
Toolz taught me the secret to going to strip clubs is extra pairs of pants.... never know when you will need them!

[JohnV]

Originally posted by Toolz+Dec 18 2003, 12:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Toolz @ Dec 18 2003, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pornoman@Dec 18 2003, 12:08 PM
Toolz,

I think there are a few places you should take John for some training..
Your bathroom after a Tequila and Raw Steak dinner?[/b][/quote]
Uhhhhhhhhh, I've been involved with some of Toolz training missions, but none like the one mentioned above ...thank god :grrr:

[aeon]

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Dec 18 2003, 07:41 AM
The one thing I've noticed is the newer young crowd attending conventions now. There has been quite a turnaround of our marketing webmasters, many of whom now seem to only be in this industry to party at the various conventions.
that's what's killing this more than visa...there will always be alternative billing solutions - where there's a demand...a supply will be provided. It's the idiots slinging galleries for 50 bucks a day so they can brag they sell porn and sponsors dealing with razor thin margins to keep those puppies happy that are flushing it all down the toilet...

free hosted galleries, free hosting, free content, free blah blah blah - free this, free that...

kill all of them...disembowel them publicly at the convention and I consider it worth attending.

best of luck -
aeon

[Toolz]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Dec 18 2003, 12:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Dec 18 2003, 12:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pornoman@Dec 18 2003, 03:08 PM
Toolz,

I think there are a few places you should take John for some training..
Toolz taught me the secret to going to strip clubs is extra pairs of pants.... never know when you will need them![/b][/quote]
hahaha:

Lest you be caught walking through the Venetian at 4am with snail trails.

[Rolo]

Originally posted by aeon@Dec 18 2003, 01:44 PM
kill all of them...
In 2004 we will see more sponsors not letting every moron signup to push their sites - this should halt many of the newbies, which is yet to enter the industry. Also since margins are getting razor thin, then people with bad traffic will need to find new places to send it. And with legal and processing issues also, then we will be less one year from now.

Maybe we should make a "what do you predict for 2004" thread - naahh, better wait until after Internext :rolleyes:

[sarettah]

I could probably find a thing or two to piss about....

But probably won't be in Vegas, so, wouldn't be able to finish it up by kicking whatever assfuck I pissed with's ass from the venetian all the way to the boardwalk as I would have ended up at some point promising to do....

Other than that, I'm in a pretty pissy mood as a matter of fact....

:yowsa:

[Carrie]

Sare the neighbor's yard is always an excellent place to do some late-night pissing.
Or so Serge and Forest claim. :P

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 19 2003, 03:02 AM
Sare the neighbor's yard is always an excellent place to do some late-night pissing.
Or so Serge and Forest claim. :P
Carrie,
now MikeW has the same problem with his neighbor and invited me and Forest to do the deed....

we'll let you know how it went
;-)))

[cj]

Originally posted by aeon@Dec 18 2003, 04:44 PM
that's what's killing this more than visa...there will always be alternative billing solutions - where there's a demand...a supply will be provided. It's the idiots slinging galleries for 50 bucks a day so they can brag they sell porn and sponsors dealing with razor thin margins to keep those puppies happy that are flushing it all down the toilet...

free hosted galleries, free hosting, free content, free blah blah blah - free this, free that...

kill all of them...disembowel them publicly at the convention and I consider it worth attending.

best of luck -
aeon
agreed.

there's a certain sponsor currently who must be having a competition with a few other programs to see who can give the most free pics to webmasters ... it looks like around 30 new galleries every week are being added ... that adds up to several hundred if not more pics ...

why give away so much of what you are trying to sell?

why are there still companies giving away content at all, let alone in such a huge quantity and then expecting someone to pay $30 a month for it plus a bit more?!

i don't see the point currently in investing a heap of money or time into an industry where the profit margins are becoming less than they are in most industries - when the reality is most of us got into this biz for the money anyway, not because we are proud that we sell smutty sex to desperate wankers ...

although i still have porn paysites and will until visa hammers the final nail, i've done a full turn about and am back to doing what I started with 6 years ago, quality online magazines with a reasonable monthly rate - and not 'porn'. no more $30 40 or 50 a month sites, no more $30+ payouts to webmasters etc ... someone else can spend the money, and i'll watch & learn from their mistakes, because guaranteed EVERYBODY IS MAKING THEM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS DICK ABOUT DICK NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY!!!!

The sooner boards like gfy with 'beer money' webmasters go bye bye, the sooner the biz can get on with fixing itself ... but until that happens, sit back with some popcorn & prepare to be amazed at how moronic & amusing some people will behave as their future, livelihood, dreams & egos come crashing before their eyes!!!!!!

*evil laugh*

i cant vait for zat vun!


sorry folks, saturday afternoon & i'm waiting for a load of washing to finish :biglaugh:

[Vick]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 19 2003, 11:45 PM
The sooner boards like gfy with 'beer money' webmasters go bye bye, the sooner the biz can get on with fixing itself ...

but until that happens, sit back with some popcorn & prepare to be amazed at how moronic & amusing some people will behave as their future, livelihood, dreams & egos come crashing before their eyes!!!!!!

I can only hope and pray



Note - I'm an Atheist - Swear to God I am :D

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Vick+Dec 20 2003, 08:32 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Dec 20 2003, 08:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 19 2003, 11:45 PM
The sooner boards like gfy with 'beer money' webmasters go bye bye, the sooner the biz can get on with fixing itself ...

but until that happens, sit back with some popcorn & prepare to be amazed at how moronic & amusing some people will behave as their future, livelihood, dreams & egos come crashing before their eyes!!!!!!

I can only hope and pray



Note - I'm an Atheist - Swear to God I am :D[/b][/quote]
well.....this is where the "Jewish History experience" comes handy...

after Romans conquered the Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple,
the Jewish scientists and Theologists went to Jaffa and for generations they preserved the culture and religion...
something similar happened in Greece after the Turkish occupation.

Let's hope we preserve Oprano as a "think tank" to make life easier for future generations...

and in Vick's tradition,
don't beleive a word I say,
Forest's Russian vodka with red wine, spicy rum and Averna,
make my fingers a bit frisky today
;-)))

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 20 2003, 05:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 20 2003, 05:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Vick@Dec 20 2003, 08:32 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 19 2003, 11:45 PM
The sooner boards like gfy with 'beer money' webmasters go bye bye, the sooner the biz can get on with fixing itself ...

but until that happens, sit back with some popcorn & prepare to be amazed at how moronic & amusing some people will behave as their future, livelihood, dreams & egos come crashing before their eyes!!!!!!

I can only hope and pray



Note - I'm an Atheist - Swear to God I am :D
well.....this is where the "Jewish History experience" comes handy...

after Romans conquered the Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple,
the Jewish scientists and Theologists went to Jaffa and for generations they preserved the culture and religion...
something similar happened in Greece after the Turkish occupation.

Let's hope we preserve Oprano as a "think tank" to make life easier for future generations...

and in Vick's tradition,
don't beleive a word I say,
Forest's Russian vodka with red wine, spicy rum and Averna,
make my fingers a bit frisky today
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Mr. Oprano


I've been reading this board for the last week and I've been to others too. I noticed the last 3 days more and more webmasters talking about no sales. I see the bottom coming near.


What if I told you that I can help make you and your crew here to get back(or never left) on top? I'm shaking just typing this to you because this is my one shot to present you something I know can make money and I don't want to fuck up. I've been around the boards out there and it seems I can't trust any one. The stuff I grew up in and saw made me very street smart. I see that here, so I know your guys are real players. I turn 30 years old in 12 days.I'm not getting any younger. Everyone here at this board impressed me. The only reason I've held back is always worried about getting my ideas taken. I think there's alot like me out there that see things that others can't but never go thur with the process of doing biz. All I want is to be able to work with no distractions and not having to worry about next months rent or shit like that. And of course a little piece of the pie. There is enough money to be made for everyone for a long time. It just takes the commitment of everyone involved to do what they say they are going to do.


Serge, I am for real and I saw your post where you said you don't have a plan B and hard for you to even get up in the mourning to go make money. I know I could get you that desire again to make mad cash.I've been doing research every waking hour i've had for the last 45 days and I know the internet world is going to have a shake-up and the ones left will reap the awards.


We'll I got thur that o/k. let's see what's next. Balls in your court.


Much Respect

P

[Winetalk.com]

P, my problem is little bit different...having VERY modest desires and a nest egg I can't outlive even if my desires increase,
is a LOUSY motivator to make a mad cash and I hope you not talking about getting me broke to get that desire
;-)))

Jokes aside,
if you have a "magic formula" you wanna share with Opranaughts-
I am much appriociated in advance,
if you beleive you sharing your idea will hurt you,
like it did MANY innovators before you-
keep it under your sleeve and think of yourself and your family first...

from my experience, appreciation of the people generally 1 feet long, even though at Oprano it few feet above the average.

now you have food for YOUR thoughts,
"To be or NOT to be..."
;-))))

[Cleo]

My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Cleo@Dec 21 2003, 02:50 PM
My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)
The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 20 2003, 12:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 20 2003, 12:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 20 2003, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by -Vick@Dec 20 2003, 08:32 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 19 2003, 11:45 PM
The sooner boards like gfy with 'beer money' webmasters go bye bye, the sooner the biz can get on with fixing itself ...

but until that happens, sit back with some popcorn & prepare to be amazed at how moronic & amusing some people will behave as their future, livelihood, dreams & egos come crashing before their eyes!!!!!!

I can only hope and pray



Note - I'm an Atheist - Swear to God I am :D
well.....this is where the "Jewish History experience" comes handy...

after Romans conquered the Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple,
the Jewish scientists and Theologists went to Jaffa and for generations they preserved the culture and religion...
something similar happened in Greece after the Turkish occupation.

Let's hope we preserve Oprano as a "think tank" to make life easier for future generations...

and in Vick's tradition,
don't beleive a word I say,
Forest's Russian vodka with red wine, spicy rum and Averna,
make my fingers a bit frisky today
;-)))
Mr. Oprano


I've been reading this board for the last week and I've been to others too. I noticed the last 3 days more and more webmasters talking about no sales. I see the bottom coming near.


What if I told you that I can help make you and your crew here to get back(or never left) on top? I'm shaking just typing this to you because this is my one shot to present you something I know can make money and I don't want to fuck up. I've been around the boards out there and it seems I can't trust any one. The stuff I grew up in and saw made me very street smart. I see that here, so I know your guys are real players. I turn 30 years old in 12 days.I'm not getting any younger. Everyone here at this board impressed me. The only reason I've held back is always worried about getting my ideas taken. I think there's alot like me out there that see things that others can't but never go thur with the process of doing biz. All I want is to be able to work with no distractions and not having to worry about next months rent or shit like that. And of course a little piece of the pie. There is enough money to be made for everyone for a long time. It just takes the commitment of everyone involved to do what they say they are going to do.


Serge, I am for real and I saw your post where you said you don't have a plan B and hard for you to even get up in the mourning to go make money. I know I could get you that desire again to make mad cash.I've been doing research every waking hour i've had for the last 45 days and I know the internet world is going to have a shake-up and the ones left will reap the awards.


We'll I got thur that o/k. let's see what's next. Balls in your court.


Much Respect

P[/b][/quote]
45 days research. This outta be good...

Choker that aint you again with a new "The Next Big Thing" is it?

If it is....look out it will involve someone babysitting his kids in Vegas while hes out partying!

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Mike AI+Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Cleo@Dec 21 2003, 02:50 PM
My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)
The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.[/b][/quote]
PEARL!

[Cleo]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM

The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.
Not my fault Icarus if your wings are made of wax and you chose to fly too close to the sun.

90% of the world has yet to get on the internet.

I guess all of us little worker ants will inherit the internet.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 21 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 21 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Cleo@Dec 21 2003, 02:50 PM
My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)
The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.
PEARL![/b][/quote]
http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/wsop.jpg

ok, This is what I bring to the table.


It's for real Gonzo. I'll write up a post suming everything. It does have to do the pic your looking at. But believe me , it's only the start. I'll be back in a hour or so. I gotta finish up some stuff.


P


http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/fullhouse.jpg

[Carrie]

MasterP, take Serge's advice.
Keep your idea to yourself and run with it.
The people who post here aren't the only ones who read the board. The richest guys in this industry make a living from lurking on boards and seeing ideas like the one you're about to summarize, and putting their staff to work launching it before you can even *think* about getting it off of the ground.

I guarantee you, if you mention your idea, someone else will have it live in a month. And you'll have lost the game.

KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Work on it, and make *yourself* the money.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 21 2003, 04:57 PM
MasterP, take Serge's advice.
Keep your idea to yourself and run with it.
The people who post here aren't the only ones who read the board. The richest guys in this industry make a living from lurking on boards and seeing ideas like the one you're about to summarize, and putting their staff to work launching it before you can even *think* about getting it off of the ground.

I guarantee you, if you mention your idea, someone else will have it live in a month. And you'll have lost the game.

KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Work on it, and make *yourself* the money.
Don't listen to her , tell us ;-)))

We are here to give advice....

not steal ideas ;-)))

honest....


no really....




reaches across and slaps , carrie

;-)))

[cj]

yeah nick because we all need ideas from an 'i promise i can make you rich quick, drive by webmasters'

>>I guarantee you, if you mention your idea, someone else will have it live in a month.

I guarantee you that very few people will give a shit about your idea unless its something we haven't heard before which i doubt ... but hey, i'm ready to be surprised!!

what is it?! another new billing method that will solve our problems? a new content management system? or what about another webmaster resource?!

:yowsa:

[Nickatilynx]

cj,

My money is on...

"Hey , with the popularity of poker , what about strippoker?"

[Vick]

Truth be told doesn't matter if you post it here or not

If it's successful as soon as it come to market it will be copied and done and done

and so on and so on and scoobie doobie doobie

[cj]

LMAO

that could be a cute casino game!!

web cams ... gambling site ... players up against each other in a life strip/poker tourny ...

oh my god its the answer we've been looking for!!!

now if we could just find some sucker to put up a couple of mill & do all the work ..........

:biglaugh:

[Nickatilynx]

if it could be combined with a webmaster resource . a search engine , some form of password protection script and a frickin content management program , it might , just might be a winner ;-))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 21 2003, 05:58 PM

[cj]

might?! no way! its guaranteed to change the world!!!!!

:biglaugh:

[Nickatilynx]

Yeah!!!!

SHIT!!!! Throw in Paris Hilton and rx and I'm turning all our mail onto that!!!

;-)))

[masterp74]

http://studionews.blogs.com/celebrity_poker/ctn46-thumb.jpg





Thanks for your concern. I already have my little piece started. What I'm going to say wiull take 6-8 take at least 6-7 people. Plus you have to have some clout to make it work. I think Serge fits that term well. If we do this and work together , we'll make it big.


FEB. 1st, 2004

Can any one tell me what that dates for?

[Nickatilynx]

FEB. 1st, 2004

Can any one tell me what that dates for?

The Superbowl?

;-))

[masterp74]

ok, a little background on me. I was in the online casino industry for 4 years. I know a lot of shit when it come that. Laws , who's who, and how it works. I've been playing texas hold'em for 11 years now. I will challenge anyone one in this industry to a game of No Limit Hold'Em or 7-Card Stud. I've played so much and learn enough to last me a lifetime. I've been in the adult indusry for 6 months. I see it falling down face first. But we have the master plan.


When Serge comes on the board we talk and you can ask any questions. I already have the domain names we need to make it. So I hope others do copy because it will just make us bigger. :salute:


Pat



Last edited by masterp74 at Dec 21 2003, 06:21 PM

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 06:14 PM
FEB. 1st, 2004

Can any one tell me what that dates for?

The Superbowl?

;-))
Give this man a t-shirt. nice call


Networks Betting Poker Is Big Draw
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By MEGAN LARSON



Thanks to ESPN and The Travel Channel, whose ratings grew with the help of poker tournaments telecast this summer, TV may have a new programming genre to play with—and buyers like the odds.


Following ESPN's airing of The World Series (news - web sites) of Poker and Travel Channel's World Poker Tour, Bravo, Game Show Network and NBC have bought into the idea. In addition, a new network, Casino and Gaming Television, is set to launch in the third quarter.


NBC is teaming with The Travel Channel to bring The Travel Channel World Poker Tour Battle of Champions to TV on Feb. 1, prior to the Super Bowl kick-off. "This could be an indication of whether [casino gaming] has broad-based appeal," said Ray Dundas, svp, group director of broadcast at Interpublic Group's Initiative Media in New York. Added Jon Miller, NBC svp of sports programming, "We have been watching the poker phenomenon, and it seems to be gaining momentum."


Bravo's series, Celebrity Poker Showdown, debuts tomorrow with Ben Affleck (news), Don Cheadle (news) and Martin Sheen (news) as players. Also, Game Show Network plans a new series for spring called The World Series of Blackjack.


Consumers' interest in gambling has increased due to the proliferation of casinos across the U.S. According to a summer survey of 600 TV viewers by SmithGeiger on behalf of Casino and Gaming Television, 67 percent of respondents said they would watch a network devoted to card sports.

[cj]

MasterP ... everything you have said could possibly have grabbed my interest if it wasn't for these types of claims -

"If we do this and work together , we'll make it big."

what makes you think you can guarantee success?!

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Cleo+Dec 21 2003, 07:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cleo @ Dec 21 2003, 07:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM

The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.
Not my fault Icarus if your wings are made of wax and you chose to fly too close to the sun.

90% of the world has yet to get on the internet.

I guess all of us little worker ants will inherit the internet.[/b][/quote]


90% of the world does not have means to pay for porn.

When the times comes that the profit margin is not worth the headaches, and inherent risks - I will be gone.

Of course I will still be messing around with the Internet!

:D

[masterp74]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 21 2003, 06:34 PM
MasterP ... everything you have said could possibly have grabbed my interest if it wasn't for these types of claims -

"If we do this and work together , we'll make it big."

what makes you think you can guarantee success?!
Because this industry is dead. You got broaden your mind when it comes to "Adult Entertainment" It covers many areas. The reason I know it will work is it will take other people to get a month to figure it out. Or they will rush it and put something half-ass out. What I invision couls be done in 6-7 days. Plus I know how to play poker and I know alot of people who think they can play poker. No matter who's out with what first,last, middle or never, I'll be a part of it someway. So far i hope Serge and Gonzo takes a look at this. If anyone else want to be a part of it, speak up and tell me what you can do. I know there will be some smart-ass comments at first. But if you want to be a part of something that will last and make you a lot of coin then talk to me. I've seen what has happen over at GFY and I'm just tired of all the kids stuff. Let's work together to make a shitload of money. :headwall:

[Nickatilynx]

Well lets see, Sparky.... ;-)))

I don't have your knowledge of online gaming , but my best friend was a founder of one of the earliest online casinos.

From what I gather , making book in North America and accepting bets from anyone in the US or Canada is not recommended

unless
a.) you like having your door kicked in at 6am
b.) you want a stripey suntan
c.) enjoy porridge

;-)))

You can host a community of like minded gentlemen and ladies ,in order to allow them to play poker....but its been done.Check the number of hands dealt at paradisepoker.com

I suspect Serge would have absolutely nothing to do with gambling.

Actually its not a suspicion, I have asked him! ;-)))


He told me to "Go forth and multiply" and recommended I did not get involved.



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 21 2003, 06:53 PM

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 06:51 PM
Well lets see, Sparky.... ;-)))

I don't have your knowledge of online gaming , but my best friend was a founder of one of the earliest online casinos.

From what I gather , making book in North America and accepting bets from anyone in the US or Canada is not recommended

unless
a.) you like having your door kicked in at 6am
b.) you want a stripey suntan
c.) enjoy porridge

;-)))

You can host a community of like minded gentlemen and ladies ,in order to allow them to play poker....but its been done.Check the number of hands dealt at paradisepoker.com

I suspect Serge would have absolutely nothing to do with gambling.

Actually its not a suspicion, I have asked him! ;-)))


He told me to "Go forth and multiply" and recommended I did not get involved.
lol, I feel a lkot better now. When you tell someone your in porn for the first time , how they they react? and what are they thinking? Now I ask you, when i mention Poker, what comes to your mind? of course gambling. I lived in the Caribbean for 2 years I had to sit thur at least 5-6 hours a day with lawyers going over word by word on any biz. move. That's worst then getting your teeth pulled.

[JR]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 21 2003, 06:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 21 2003, 06:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 21 2003, 06:34 PM
MasterP ... everything you have said could possibly have grabbed my interest if it wasn't for these types of claims -

"If we do this and work together , we'll make it big."

what makes you think you can guarantee success?!
Because this industry is dead.[/b][/quote]
huh!?!?

dead for who? people stopped getting erections?

guess i missed the announcement.

can i get in on your newbie business plan that is sure to hit? i have never heard any of this before and it sounds quite interesting.




not!


and you get your credibility to comment on the state of the adult industry from where exactly?

[masterp74]

Originally posted by JR+Dec 21 2003, 07:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Dec 21 2003, 07:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -masterp74@Dec 21 2003, 06:47 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 21 2003, 06:34 PM
MasterP ... everything you have said could possibly have grabbed my interest if it wasn't for these types of claims -

"If we do this and work together , we'll make it big."

what makes you think you can guarantee success?!
Because this industry is dead.
huh!?!?

dead for who? people stopped getting erections?

guess i missed the announcement.

can i get in on your newbie business plan that is sure to hit? i have never heard any of this before and it sounds quite interesting.




not!


and you get your credibility to comment on the state of the adult industry from where exactly?[/b][/quote]
If you read my post before, i sait a few select will survive. I am a newbie your right I don't know shit. I'll tell you this. if you have heard my idea, then i'll quit smoking crack. If serge or anyone else who doesn't want to try this, finewith me. 20 people can start it and I'll still make make my paper. if any one who has a site, afiliate program or run a message board or sells content or is a shotcallers who like to discuss ideas then post.

[Nickatilynx]

If only me and cj were somebodies , maybe he would tell us :(

Oh well , just as well , they are closing the Kinkos here.

I'd better get the last bus to the trailer park so I can change into my other clothes before my late shift at Wendy's :(

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 07:46 PM
If only me and cj were somebodies , maybe he would tell us :(

Oh well , just as well , they are closing the Kinkos here.

I'd better get the last bus to the trailer park so I can change into my other clothes before my late shift at Wendy's :(
I think you two do know your shit. but you should give a little more credit to the person who's talking to you. Who knows I mightknow a thing or two. maybe you guys aren't looking to make the most money. Sure you can go ahead and go it and make some money. But tell me, what are you going to do?



Last edited by masterp74 at Dec 21 2003, 08:20 PM

[masterp74]

Originally posted by JR@Dec 21 2003, 07:18 PM



and you get your credibility to comment on the state of the adult industry from where exactly?
I'm just a new guy looking from the outside. I see alot of people worst off then they were 2 months ago. i just made a comment. I came out with this idea so other people who are not as lucky as you, have a chance to last longer in the industry. Top 5%(you) will always be here. The other 95% will be hurting. But this is just my opinion. I know it carries no weight in here.

[Nickatilynx]

But tell me, what are you going to do?

Me?

I think I'll totally panic and pray a complete unknown comes on this board , not knowing anyone here's back ground whatsoever and pricktease like an 18 yr old princess on prom night , and tells us his great idea that saves all our asses

;-))) LOL

Why should I give you credit?

You are hear ASKING us.

You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

Therefore I doubt your idea is any good because you have exhibited that you DO NOT research.

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

My background....

I am a traffic whore.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)

You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.

and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

So either piss or get off the pot :)

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 08:55 PM
But tell me, what are you going to do?

Me?

I think I'll totally panic and pray a complete unknown comes on this board , not knowing anyone here's back ground whatsoever and pricktease like an 18 yr old princess on prom night , and tells us his great idea that saves all our asses

;-))) LOL

Why should I give you credit?

You are hear ASKING us.

You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

Therefore I doubt your idea is any good because you have exhibited that you DO NOT research.

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

My background....

I am a traffic whore.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)

You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.

and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

So either piss or get off the pot :)
Fair enough, I came here to propose an idea to Serge. I knew he has all the tools to get the job done. The only research I needed was to see what group of people can take over something if they had the chance. I never once questioned who you were. I know everyone here are players to the game.. That why I came here first. With the knowledge you guys know and what I can give to make it really work. I was just waiting to see if serge was going to be atround tonight. when i see he's around I'll say it out in the open and as soon as he say no,I'll leave. You could have told me your serge's right handman. I would say what it wasright off bat. anyways sorry didn't know the scoop. I'll leave. And Serge, the poker thing had nothing to do with gambling(money). just a mareting tool that every board needs.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 21 2003, 10:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 21 2003, 10:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 08:55 PM
But tell me, what are you going to do?

Me?

I think I'll totally panic and pray a complete unknown comes on this board , not knowing anyone here's back ground whatsoever and pricktease like an 18 yr old princess on prom night , and tells us his great idea that saves all our asses

;-))) LOL

Why should I give you credit?

You are hear ASKING us.

You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

Therefore I doubt your idea is any good because you have exhibited that you DO NOT research.

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

My background....

I am a traffic whore.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)

You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.

and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

So either piss or get off the pot :)
Fair enough, I came here to propose an idea to Serge. I knew he has all the tools to get the job done. The only research I needed was to see what group of people can take over something if they had the chance. I never once questioned who you were. I know everyone here are players to the game.. That why I came here first. With the knowledge you guys know and what I can give to make it really work. I was just waiting to see if serge was going to be atround tonight. when i see he's around I'll say it out in the open and as soon as he say no,I'll leave. You could have told me your serge's right handman. I would say what it wasright off bat. anyways sorry didn't know the scoop. I'll leave. And Serge, the poker thing had nothing to do with gambling(money). just a marketing tool that every board needs.[/b][/quote]
cya

[Nickatilynx]

You could have told me your serge's right handman.

I'm not lol.

But I have known him for years and transacted many millions of dollars of business. :)

So instead of leaving run it past the us peons. ;-)))

If you just wanted Serge's opinion you could have emailed him.

[cj]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 10:46 PM
Oh well , just as well , they are closing the Kinkos here.

I'd better get the last bus to the trailer park so I can change into my other clothes before my late shift at Wendy's :(
LMFAO!!!!!!

:biglaugh: :wnw:

>>and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

this made me chuckle too ... glad to see my bluff worked but i don't know shit and have been playing around for months now!!! whole different ball game to porn but the webmasters appreciate the level of assistance & promo tools i'm used to giving adult webmasters and that seems to be working.

to be honest though, its all too hard for me - i don't find it very interesting so no motivation to learn. i can see myself enjoying webmaster marketing bits but the rest bores me to tears!!!

masterp, i'm sure your idea is good but telling someone they are stupid if they don't join you in your venture isn't the best way to get support ... stop patronizing everyone & assuming your idea is better than any of the 100's we all have sitting on our desks waiting for time & attention. If you want to do business with someone, start by explaining to them how they will benefit ... and stop talking like an amway salesman ... try being honest and intelligent ... so far, i aint seen much of either!


:rolleyes:

[Diamond Jim]

noobs are funny...

[JR]

Originally posted by masterp74@Dec 21 2003, 07:41 PM

If you read my post before, i sait a few select will survive. I am a newbie your right I don't know shit. I'll tell you this. if you have heard my idea, then i'll quit smoking crack. If serge or anyone else who doesn't want to try this, finewith me. 20 people can start it and I'll still make make my paper. if any one who has a site, afiliate program or run a message board or sells content or is a shotcallers who like to discuss ideas then post.
ideas are a dime a dozen weirdo.

people who have the ability to turn an "idea" into a successful business is astronomically small.

it takes much more than an "idea" to make money. 9 out of 10 small businesses will fail this year and they ALL had an "idea".

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 09:51 PM


I suspect Serge would have absolutely nothing to do with gambling.

Actually its not a suspicion, I have asked him! ;-)))


He told me to "Go forth and multiply" and recommended I did not get involved.
not really.....

I still have eyes and ears and ALWAYS like to hear ideas.

Especially since few of my very good friends are involved with
poker.com
;-)))

Nick, I still have my broker "livecence"
;-))))

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 21 2003, 10:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 21 2003, 10:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -masterp74@Dec 21 2003, 10:01 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 08:55 PM
But tell me, what are you going to do?

Me?

I think I'll totally panic and pray a complete unknown comes on this board , not knowing anyone here's back ground whatsoever and pricktease like an 18 yr old princess on prom night , and tells us his great idea that saves all our asses

;-))) LOL

Why should I give you credit?

You are hear ASKING us.

You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

Therefore I doubt your idea is any good because you have exhibited that you DO NOT research.

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

My background....

I am a traffic whore.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)

You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.

and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

So either piss or get off the pot :)
Fair enough, I came here to propose an idea to Serge. I knew he has all the tools to get the job done. The only research I needed was to see what group of people can take over something if they had the chance. I never once questioned who you were. I know everyone here are players to the game.. That why I came here first. With the knowledge you guys know and what I can give to make it really work. I was just waiting to see if serge was going to be atround tonight. when i see he's around I'll say it out in the open and as soon as he say no,I'll leave. You could have told me your serge's right handman. I would say what it wasright off bat. anyways sorry didn't know the scoop. I'll leave. And Serge, the poker thing had nothing to do with gambling(money). just a marketing tool that every board needs.
cya[/b][/quote]
Shit!!!

If a little teasing from me is enough to makle you go away your chances of success are NIL!!! LOL

In recap...

You ask questions on your ideas (lack of conviction or confidence?)
You don't do research
And you have no balls.

If you had just discovered how to make gold from sand , you'd never be rich. ;-)))

You'd never bring it to market...someone would take it from you. ;-)))

byeeeeeeeee..........

cj,

I suspect you know more about anything than this gambling genius who can always win at poker , spent 6 hrs a day in the Caribbean with lawyers over gambling ventures , but worries about paying rent.

;-)))

Its amazing how many GREAT card players there are with no money :)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 11:55 PM


If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)


..and Dean, and Lord Aga, and MoJo/12 clicks, webfather....
as it occured to me,
it's the absolutelly the same people who had traffic back in a day who have traffic today
;-))))

I am bored to the points that I book trips every month to remote places,
as I have decided that I'd rather die in 3rd world country airplane crash than out of boredom in my home
;-))))

bribg it on, masterp!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by masterp74@Dec 22 2003, 01:01 AM
And Serge, the poker thing had nothing to do with gambling(money). just a mareting tool that every board needs.
and somehow, like the most people here,
I think that
"there is nothing new under the sun"
(Do you need the quotye from Ecclesiastes for the ocasion?
;-))

but....
it would be stupid of us not to hear what you have to say/offer.

I remember lots of doubting tomases greeted me with doubts when I offered 1/16 of a cent payout more than CE and AH
;-))))

...and they were WRONG
;-))))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 01:05 AM
You could have told me your serge's right handman.

I'm not lol.

But I have known him for years and transacted many millions of dollars of business. :)

So instead of leaving run it past the us peons. ;-)))

If you just wanted Serge's opinion you could have emailed him.
Nick, give him credit...
e-mails are much easier to ignore than posts on the board
;-)))))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by JR+Dec 22 2003, 01:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Dec 22 2003, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--masterp74@Dec 21 2003, 07:41 PM

If you read my post before, i sait a few select will survive. I am a newbie your right I don't know shit. I'll tell you this. if you have heard my idea, then i'll quit smoking crack. If serge or anyone else who doesn't want to try this, finewith me. 20 people can start it and I'll still make make my paper. if any one who has a site, afiliate program or run a message board or sells content or is a shotcallers who like to discuss ideas then post.
ideas are a dime a dozen weirdo.

people who have the ability to turn an "idea" into a successful business is astronomically small.

it takes much more than an "idea" to make money. 9 out of 10 small businesses will fail this year and they ALL had an "idea".[/b][/quote]
c'mon, guys,
he came to Oprano with idea,
the definate sign of intelligence.

why are you beating poor guy on the head even before he opened up his mouth?

there is a plenty of time to do that AFTER he does
;-)))))

[cj]

we are all ears .... where are you masterP?

You have made us curious enough to want to hear your idea ... step 1 accomplished ... 457 982 to go :okthumb:

[Nickatilynx]

I was trying to make him spill!!!

But he was "idea teasing".

I hate that! ;-)))

Its like when you are a kid and your buddy says "look at what I have in my hand"

Its always a poke in the eye!!

;-)))

Plus...he'll spill eventually.

They ALWAYS come back.

Look at labret....can't help himself.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 22 2003, 02:05 AM
we are all ears .... where are you masterP?

You have made us curious enough to want to hear your idea ... step 1 accomplished ... 457 982 to go :okthumb:
cj,
we are a tough crowd....
and I bet, that if Jesus come to Earth and preach on Oprano first,
we'd still take him apart
;-)))

...which I believe is a PLUS and I am working on his second coming HERE first
;-))

[Nickatilynx]

step 1 accomplished ... 457 982 to go

LOL!!!!!!

Also , Serge, You may remember I used to have a "fucking fucker" ;-) as a partner who would get stoned and come up with 10,000 ideas. ;-)))))

I heard so many half baked moronics next "big things" that I didn't have the patience to wait for the ONE idea that really was good!

And I still wouldn't have the patience LOL

;-)))

[Winetalk.com]

Nick, I am getting old...I RARELY wake up at 1 am in the morning anymore,
but...old habits die hard,
I heard my name on the board in my sleep and couldn't help myself
;-))))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:11 AM
step 1 accomplished ... 457 982 to go

LOL!!!!!!

Also , Serge, You may remember I used to have a "fucking fucker" ;-) as a partner who would get stoned and come up with 10,000 ideas. ;-)))))

I heard so many half baked moronics next "big things" that I didn't have the patience to wait for the ONE idea that really was good!

And I still wouldn't have the patience LOL

;-)))
Nick, patience is a virtue...

one of our friends came up with his domain ideas in the similar condition...and he sold the last domain for 1.3 mils
;-))))

...I guess Prophet was doing the wrong stuff
;-)))))

[Nickatilynx]

P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)

Porn?

Great ground to refine traffic gereration ideas before taking them to the show...

mainstream :)

I must admit though I remember those domain discussions on YNOT and obviously I was a moron or I would now be nickatPORNO ;-)))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))[/b][/quote]
I'm old , dammit :)

And I'm going to use my rapidly appearing grey hairs to my benefit :)

Whats the difference between a "Rokso most hated spammer" and a Internationa Corporation specialising in Commercial Bulk Email?

2 things.

Perception and the later gets paid a LOT more ;-)))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 21 2003, 11:32 PM

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Dec 22 2003, 02:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Dec 22 2003, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))
I'm old , dammit :)[/b][/quote]
yes, we are but...
we have more hairs than young Brad
;-))))))

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 21 2003, 11:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 21 2003, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))
I'm old , dammit :)
yes, we are but...
we have more hairs than young Brad
;-))))))[/b][/quote]
and more class than labret :)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Dec 22 2003, 02:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Dec 22 2003, 02:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by -Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))
I'm old , dammit :)
yes, we are but...
we have more hairs than young Brad
;-))))))
and more class than labret :)[/b][/quote]
Nick, how can you even compare us to the social misfit with loud mouth and absolutelly NOTHING else to offer?

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 21 2003, 11:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 21 2003, 11:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by -Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 11:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 22 2003, 02:23 AM
P8 , meat ,..all of them taught me I hate new ideas ! LOL

I prefer taking tried and tested things and adapting them to new markets :-)
damn, you are playing safe nowadays
;-)))))
I'm old , dammit :)
yes, we are but...
we have more hairs than young Brad
;-))))))
and more class than labret :)
Nick, how can you even compare us to the social misfit with loud mouth and absolutelly NOTHING else to offer?[/b][/quote]
I didn't compare , I thanked G-d! ;-))

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 21 2003, 07:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 21 2003, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -gonzo@Dec 21 2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by -Mike AI@Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Cleo@Dec 21 2003, 02:50 PM
My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)
The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.
PEARL!
http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/wsop.jpg

ok, This is what I bring to the table.


It's for real Gonzo. I'll write up a post suming everything. It does have to do the pic your looking at. But believe me , it's only the start. I'll be back in a hour or so. I gotta finish up some stuff.


P


http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/fullhouse.jpg[/b][/quote]
Never said it wasnt for real. Forgive me for being skeptical but 45 days of research when you got all these fuckers scrambling like rats to figure out something to keep them in the game?... Im all ears.
Hell you might a fucking marketing genius for all I know.
Then again you might have a spin on the same old idea and no mon-ay to make it happen.
Rock on.

[cj]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 22 2003, 02:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 22 2003, 02:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 22 2003, 02:05 AM
we are all ears .... where are you masterP?

You have made us curious enough to want to hear your idea ... step 1 accomplished ... 457 982 to go :okthumb:
cj,
we are a tough crowd....
and I bet, that if Jesus come to Earth and preach on Oprano first,
we'd still take him apart
;-)))

...which I believe is a PLUS and I am working on his second coming HERE first
;-))[/b][/quote]
i'd love if you could bring jesus by ... i have a whole bunch of things i'd like to say to that fucker!!!! :biglaugh:

yes we are a tough crowd but i'm more than ready to swallow my words if i see reason to!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 22 2003, 04:02 AM
but i'm more than ready to swallow
cj. stop making me horny!
;-))))

[cj]

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

fuck i'm always so careful not to make slips like that too! :rolleyes:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 22 2003, 04:14 AM
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

fuck i'm always so careful not to make slips like that too! :rolleyes:
cj, Freud says.....
;-))))

[cj]

i know i know :rolleyes:

we all need protein!!!

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by cj@Dec 22 2003, 05:45 AM
i know i know :rolleyes:

we all need protein!!!
Can I have fries with that shake? :P

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 08:55 PM
But tell me, what are you going to do?

Me?

I think I'll totally panic and pray a complete unknown comes on this board , not knowing anyone here's back ground whatsoever and pricktease like an 18 yr old princess on prom night , and tells us his great idea that saves all our asses

;-))) LOL

Why should I give you credit?

You are hear ASKING us.

You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

Therefore I doubt your idea is any good because you have exhibited that you DO NOT research.

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

My background....

I am a traffic whore.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)

You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.

and as for cj , I believe she may have a little knowledge of casinos. ;-)))

So either piss or get off the pot :)
You want something from us , we don't want a thing from you.

*** True

I also know you came here asking us WITHOUT doing any research on us.

*** True

In fact , it makes me suspect you are a moron. :)

*** great


I am a traffic whore.

*** good for you.

Back in the day I was paid several million dollars by adult companies for my traffic.

*** awesome

At the moment Rx , mortgages , generic drugs etc etc will probably pay me another million in 2004 for my traffic.

cool, you the man.

If adult/porn dies , frankly I don't give a flying fuck....someone ALWAYS wants traffic for something,........

someone like ......................you :)

*** Wow you really are the man. But nope, I don't need traffic, thanks for offering.

If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)


*** Serge is a very smart guy.


You'd know that if you did research.Which you don't.Therefore it is logical that your world shaking new project is also poorly researched.


you are right, I should have reseached.


*******************************************

Now can we all work together and make more money instead of seeing who can piss the farest.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 21 2003, 10:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 21 2003, 10:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 09:51 PM


I suspect Serge would have absolutely nothing to do with gambling.

Actually its not a suspicion, I have asked him! ;-)))


He told me to "Go forth and multiply" and recommended I did not get involved.
not really.....

I still have eyes and ears and ALWAYS like to hear ideas.

Especially since few of my very good friends are involved with
poker.com
;-)))

Nick, I still have my broker "livecence"
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Holy Shit! Small world after all. We're you around back in the Starnet days before the and after the raid? I remember getting starnet at .71 cents a share. I sold at $14.00. Can you believe that shit stock went to $28.00? I did other projects too with people from poker.com. Maybe you know them. One is Canadian who lives way down south. another is in adult industry among other shit and is a legend by any one standards.

I started http://www.startcasino.com I came home one night after my burger king job and started with a 2 page website. it made awesome money and still is. i got rid of my half in 2000 right before I headed to Antigua. I even have lots more respect for now if you are are close friends with people from poker.com



Last edited by masterp74 at Dec 23 2003, 01:00 AM

[masterp74]

Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 22 2003, 12:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 22 2003, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -masterp74@Dec 21 2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by -gonzo@Dec 21 2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by -Mike AI@Dec 21 2003, 04:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Cleo@Dec 21 2003, 02:50 PM
My sales have never been better, this month has been very good.

Vegas should be fun.

There is nothing to piss about, life is good. :)
The sky only appears to be falling for those who have seen the sky.... the ants who crawl don't know when the sky is falling.

Everything is relative.
PEARL!
http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/wsop.jpg

ok, This is what I bring to the table.


It's for real Gonzo. I'll write up a post suming everything. It does have to do the pic your looking at. But believe me , it's only the start. I'll be back in a hour or so. I gotta finish up some stuff.


P


http://studionews.blogs.com/adult/fullhouse.jpg
Never said it wasnt for real. Forgive me for being skeptical but 45 days of research when you got all these fuckers scrambling like rats to figure out something to keep them in the game?... Im all ears.
Hell you might a fucking marketing genius for all I know.
Then again you might have a spin on the same old idea and no mon-ay to make it happen.
Rock on.[/b][/quote]
Hi Gonzo, it's a pleasure to be speaking to you.

Real quick: the 45 days of research is research as a whole. I did about 3 days of research on the poker tournamentthing.

My research of 45 days is doing a LOT of reading and trying to understand how people think and what lays ahead in the internet world. I took a look a blog, audblogs, moblogs, VOIP, foreign policy, a whole bunch of other things. The most interesting thing that came out of my research was "blogs" it is a truly amazing tool that every company(adult and non-adult) will use for marketing to their clients. blogs will be hitting mainstream stream in a few months.

The way i look at things is what's going to happen in the internet 30 days from now. That's why I bought the poker thing up now as I feel it's about topop and be a household name.


Pat

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 21 2003, 10:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 21 2003, 10:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 11:55 PM


If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)


..and Dean, and Lord Aga, and MoJo/12 clicks, webfather....
as it occured to me,
it's the absolutelly the same people who had traffic back in a day who have traffic today
;-))))

I am bored to the points that I book trips every month to remote places,
as I have decided that I'd rather die in 3rd world country airplane crash than out of boredom in my home
;-))))

bribg it on, masterp![/b][/quote]
ok, I had to do the whole christmas shopping with relatives day and this is the first time at my computer.

the poker companies have software now where you can start your own tournaments anytime and abny amount of people. for right now we can use that for all the adult message boards who need help. I went over to "ratedhot.com" message board the other day and the guy who runs it was crying about how comes no one post here evern after a contest, blah, blah blah. i looked around at other boards to see what kind of contest they are and it's really a joke.

like I said before I'm a poker player. I've played for 11 years and I will keep playing till the day I die. What makes poker different from casino games(i.e. blackjack, craps, slots.ect..) is poker is a game of skill, the casino games are games of chance. An old poker legend once said "poker takes 5 min. to learn, but takes a lifetime to master". I couldn't have said better myself. There is something about poker that makes you come back and you try to better your skills. It is also very fun to play and everyone is social around the tables so they feel like they are apart of a great community.

I'll talk more on all the angels on how we can use poker. first thing I think would be good to test the waters is oprano.com hold a free "no limit" hold em poker tournament where anywebmaster can enter and try to compete to win prizes. What's the catch? they have to get 1 sign-up to who ever is sponsing that tournment. for example, sunny dollars is the sole sponser. to be in the tournament a webmaster has to go to the site sign up as a affiliate and get 1 sign up(which isn't hard) to be in the tournament. Then there you have about 100 webmasters who get that 1 sign-up and already sunny dollars is a winner and then you have a tournamnet where sunny dollars puts up the prixe. Could be $500, an x-box, free content whatever. you make your sponsor happyin which he is more than likly to come back and offer more stuff for contest.


There is alot more to this, I just wanted to get started and throw that out so we can have some brain stroming going on. Feb. 1st NBC is showing a 2 hour special right before and after the super bowl on world poker tour. That is when it will be inteouded and talked about for months on all the media outlets and soon will be legal for americans to gamble real money on poker(not casino games).

P

[gonzo]

Oh my Morgana...

Blogs are already mainstream. It was the big marketing push from last year. Matter of fact when used properly they can drive some search engine traffic back to your site.

Lets see theres blogger.com and then there's live journal. Thats about as mainstream as it gets. Hell everybody and their brother has one of those....
Corrupted Blog Example (http://www.livejournal.com/users/therealgonzo/)

You visionary thoughts on poker tournamenting scares me.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by gonzo@Dec 23 2003, 01:51 AM
Oh my Morgana...

Blogs are already mainstream. It was the big marketing push from last year. Matter of fact when used properly they can drive some search engine traffic back to your site.

Lets see theres blogger.com and then there's live journal. Thats about as mainstream as it gets. Hell everybody and their brother has one of those....
Corrupted Blog Example (http://www.livejournal.com/users/therealgonzo/)

You visionary thoughts on poker tournamenting scares me.
When i mean mainstream I mean everyone knows and talks abouts. Alot of people don't know how to use blogs yet.

lets see there is blogger.com who google.com owns and there is blogs.com the #2 hosting company. livejornal won't go very far.


did you know out of all my blogs the ones I have at blogspot.com(#1 blog in blog hosting) gets more attention in SE than my ones at blog.com(#2 in hosting)

the reason could be google.com owns them. so i focud more on blogspot.com than the others. I also learned to leave themon the free host to get better SE placement. for some reason they pick up all the stuff first at blogspot.com before websites that use blogger.com and host the blogs on thier own servers.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 04:58 AM
livejornal won't go very far.



Yeah they all told me I was a stupid fuck for buying that amazon stock too when it crashed.

10 years ago at a sysops meeting I bought a program from Ed Hopper for $100 that took usenet groups and imported them too and from PCboard message bases. For shits and grins I applied [for free] to register gonzo.com .

All my buddies told me I wasted $100.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 23 2003, 02:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 23 2003, 02:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 04:58 AM
livejornal won't go very far.



Yeah they all told me I was a stupid fuck for buying that amazon stock too when it crashed.

10 years ago at a sysops meeting I bought a program from Ed Hopper for $100 that took usenet groups and imported them too and from PCboard message bases. For shits and grins I applied [for free] to register gonzo.com .

All my buddies told me I wasted $100.[/b][/quote]
lol. that's funny. good for you. I checked all the blogs companies and livejornal just had some flaws in it. and was really open to expand with others. How is live journal anyways? I really like blogs.com because they use typepad.com and for the 95% of people who don't know dick about HTML ,this is the perfect tool for them.

blogger.com will be the one to go to when they come out with their updated software and monthly tools/hosting packages. soon be sometime in Jan or Feb.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 23 2003, 05:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 23 2003, 05:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -gonzo@Dec 23 2003, 02:04 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 04:58 AM
livejornal won't go very far.



Yeah they all told me I was a stupid fuck for buying that amazon stock too when it crashed.

10 years ago at a sysops meeting I bought a program from Ed Hopper for $100 that took usenet groups and imported them too and from PCboard message bases. For shits and grins I applied [for free] to register gonzo.com .

All my buddies told me I wasted $100.
lol. that's funny. good for you. I checked all the blogs companies and livejornal just had some flaws in it. and was really open to expand with others. How is live journal anyways? I really like blogs.com because they use typepad.com and for the 95% of people who don't know dick about HTML ,this is the perfect tool for them.

blogger.com will be the one to go to when they come out with their updated software and monthly tools/hosting packages. soon be sometime in Jan or Feb.[/b][/quote]
It works fine for what I need it to do.

So enough with the cock teasing whats this next big thing youve got? Spill it...we all are listening.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 23 2003, 04:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 23 2003, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Dec 21 2003, 10:52 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Dec 21 2003, 11:55 PM


If serge was going to do anything for you which needed traffic ,one of the first people he would approach , is me :)


..and Dean, and Lord Aga, and MoJo/12 clicks, webfather....
as it occured to me,
it's the absolutelly the same people who had traffic back in a day who have traffic today
;-))))

I am bored to the points that I book trips every month to remote places,
as I have decided that I'd rather die in 3rd world country airplane crash than out of boredom in my home
;-))))

bribg it on, masterp!
ok, I had to do the whole christmas shopping with relatives day and this is the first time at my computer.

the poker companies have software now where you can start your own tournaments anytime and abny amount of people. for right now we can use that for all the adult message boards who need help. I went over to "ratedhot.com" message board the other day and the guy who runs it was crying about how comes no one post here evern after a contest, blah, blah blah. i looked around at other boards to see what kind of contest they are and it's really a joke.

like I said before I'm a poker player. I've played for 11 years and I will keep playing till the day I die. What makes poker different from casino games(i.e. blackjack, craps, slots.ect..) is poker is a game of skill, the casino games are games of chance. An old poker legend once said "poker takes 5 min. to learn, but takes a lifetime to master". I couldn't have said better myself. There is something about poker that makes you come back and you try to better your skills. It is also very fun to play and everyone is social around the tables so they feel like they are apart of a great community.

I'll talk more on all the angels on how we can use poker. first thing I think would be good to test the waters is oprano.com hold a free "no limit" hold em poker tournament where anywebmaster can enter and try to compete to win prizes. What's the catch? they have to get 1 sign-up to who ever is sponsing that tournment. for example, sunny dollars is the sole sponser. to be in the tournament a webmaster has to go to the site sign up as a affiliate and get 1 sign up(which isn't hard) to be in the tournament. Then there you have about 100 webmasters who get that 1 sign-up and already sunny dollars is a winner and then you have a tournamnet where sunny dollars puts up the prixe. Could be $500, an x-box, free content whatever. you make your sponsor happyin which he is more than likly to come back and offer more stuff for contest.


There is alot more to this, I just wanted to get started and throw that out so we can have some brain stroming going on. Feb. 1st NBC is showing a 2 hour special right before and after the super bowl on world poker tour. That is when it will be inteouded and talked about for months on all the media outlets and soon will be legal for americans to gamble real money on poker(not casino games).

P[/b][/quote]
Ooops I see you already posted while I was driving to work again.

At this point Im going to pour myself a large glass of shut the fuck up and watch what happens. CJ has a lot more poker/online background than I would even claim to have.

I will tell you that during the prepay project we looked VERY briefly at using the card to fund online gambling. Every lawyer we talked to say stay the fuck away.

As far as the webmaster angle... Serge is probably the most qualified person Ive ever seen to pick apart a program or idea.

Ill sit back and nejoy my drink.

[Carrie]

Blogs have been in mainstream for years. Coming damn close to a decade now. They just weren't called "blogs" until recently.

Ever heard of Slashdot? Fucked Company? Nuke? PostNuke? Even the one I worked on, Geeklog?

Before they were called blogs, they were "content management systems". They started as single-user live journal update scripts and quickly grew into multi-user environment publishing scripts.

Just recently one of our well-known adult webmasters, TDavid, participated in the 3rd-annual Blogathon. Unofficially it's been going for 4 years, and even then the founder (Cat) was late to the game. People have had blogs since the first moment they discovered they could post random thoughts to their sites and other bored surfers would come read them.

Two years ago the term "Google Bomb" came into play from people with these blogs getting together and linking certain terms to certain pages for the desired effect of having Google point to that page whenever the phrase was searched for - an often funny, if not humiliating, experience for whomever/whatever the search phrase was about.

Mainstream has been eyebrow-deep in blogs for years. The next big thing? It's been a big thing forever and a day.

Just because you just recently noticed them doesn't mean that they're new.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 23 2003, 03:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 23 2003, 03:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by -gonzo@Dec 23 2003, 02:04 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 04:58 AM
livejornal won't go very far.



Yeah they all told me I was a stupid fuck for buying that amazon stock too when it crashed.

10 years ago at a sysops meeting I bought a program from Ed Hopper for $100 that took usenet groups and imported them too and from PCboard message bases. For shits and grins I applied [for free] to register gonzo.com .

All my buddies told me I wasted $100.
lol. that's funny. good for you. I checked all the blogs companies and livejornal just had some flaws in it. and was really open to expand with others. How is live journal anyways? I really like blogs.com because they use typepad.com and for the 95% of people who don't know dick about HTML ,this is the perfect tool for them.

blogger.com will be the one to go to when they come out with their updated software and monthly tools/hosting packages. soon be sometime in Jan or Feb.
It works fine for what I need it to do.

So enough with the cock teasing whats this next big thing youve got? Spill it...we all are listening.[/b][/quote]
ok. gonzo you got it.

Serge,

worldpokertour.com is getting bigger and bigger. They have the cable tv companies backing and their head sponsor partypoker.com. now partypoker a year ago had maybe 3,000 players playing there at one time. that includes real money and play money. Today after holding thier own "Poker Million" cruise tours, they have 25,000 players playing at the same time there. There also own empirepoker.com which has 12,000 players playing at any one time. This is just the begining of the poker boom.

now worldpokertour.com will be the big dog as they set themselves up with the best poker pros in the business. They have a 13 week tour where they go the best poker rooms(landbase) in the world. They go to Europe and North America right now but will expand in due time. The first season they started they had a total prize pool of $10 million dollars. That means people who played in these tournament shell out their own money for a chance to play and win. the seond season they just had(13 weeks) they had a prize pool total of 30 million dollars. again this is players who put in their own money to play. no sponsers money. Now there 3rd season starts in March and they already predict the prize money to top $70 million. I giving you these numbers to show the progression poker is having.


My idea is oprano start a adult industry poker tour for promote boards, sponsers and whatever else comes to mind. and 2) to see is the best "No Limit Poker Player in the adult industry. you maight say "who gives a fuck who's the best poker player in the adult industry" well you right,who does but when we do find out who is they can have bragging rights and so on so on. people who make the semi-finals can brag and make fun on the ones who didn't. This is more of a marketing thing than a poker thing.

oprano should build a friendship with 12 other message boards. Every week the "Adult Poker Tour" will be a one of these message boards. every board will let anyone enter as long as they post 10 messages at that board and get 1 sign-up for their "Adult Poker Tour" sponser. That way you will have sponsers jumping at the chance to be the sponser for the tournament. 13 weeks 13 boards and the whole time oprano is running it. oprano hooks up with 1 online poker company, one who has a 2 tier affiliate program, so every webmaster that does play in any of these 13 poker tournaments have to sign up at that poke room where we have the tournaments.


I can see this getting bigger and bigger because it is fun for people who are in it plus it is helping boards and sponsers getting noticed. The best thing of it all is you should have the finals which is the top 10? players each week and from there we will crorn the "Best Poker player in the adult industry" During that time you not only will be the buzz of the industry you are making a piece of all those webmasters who either play for real money at that poker site and you make a piece of anyone they sign up as this is a multi-tier affiliate program.


That's the basic concept I have. It can be shaped into anything you want. I have the domain adultpokertour.com and you can use that if you like. I just want to be a part of something that could help make money and build biz relationships arould the adult industry. we could do this poker tournament over and over. the second time we could do 26 message boards in 13 weeks. whatever works best.


much respect,

Pat

2pac4life

[Winetalk.com]

it won't work

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Carrie@Dec 23 2003, 03:32 AM
Blogs have been in mainstream for years. Coming damn close to a decade now. They just weren't called "blogs" until recently.

Ever heard of Slashdot? Fucked Company? Nuke? PostNuke? Even the one I worked on, Geeklog?

Before they were called blogs, they were "content management systems". They started as single-user live journal update scripts and quickly grew into multi-user environment publishing scripts.

Just recently one of our well-known adult webmasters, TDavid, participated in the 3rd-annual Blogathon. Unofficially it's been going for 4 years, and even then the founder (Cat) was late to the game. People have had blogs since the first moment they discovered they could post random thoughts to their sites and other bored surfers would come read them.

Two years ago the term "Google Bomb" came into play from people with these blogs getting together and linking certain terms to certain pages for the desired effect of having Google point to that page whenever the phrase was searched for - an often funny, if not humiliating, experience for whomever/whatever the search phrase was about.

Mainstream has been eyebrow-deep in blogs for years. The next big thing? It's been a big thing forever and a day.

Just because you just recently noticed them doesn't mean that they're new.
I know they are not new. I'm saying it will be big with mainstream. That's means the everyone, the ones who get online for the first time to the ones who been in for a decade will have a blog of some kind. Blogs hasn't even come near to the potenal it has. Just the last 6 months media companies have been worried about them.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 03:58 AM
it won't work
ok, why won't it work?

[Winetalk.com]

I just want to be a part of something that could help make money and build biz relationships arould the adult industry
************************************************** ***

I can help you there....

VERY soon Oprano is gonna take ads from online gambling companies and we'll have another sub-board
(take a look at them all at
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/

if you wanna:
1) moderate it (as you obviuosly know what you are talking about)
2) sell advertising on it (we'll split with you all the business you can bring to make it worth your while)
you'll be able to accomplish your goals, have the cake and eat it too.

whatta you think?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 23 2003, 06:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 23 2003, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 03:58 AM
it won't work
ok, why won't it work?[/b][/quote]
because asking 13 adult board owners and hundreds of webmasters to agree on anything is a task for Hercules, not Oprano.
Stirring adult industry in any particular direction is harder than herding cats...

[Winetalk.com]

the other thing I don't feel good about it:
Oprano will actually have to organize the games online,
which is a subject to local laws/regulations and the subject to legal liabilities of the unknown proportions...too thin of a line for me to throw my hat into

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 04:02 AM
I just want to be a part of something that could help make money and build biz relationships arould the adult industry
************************************************** ***

I can help you there....

VERY soon Oprano is gonna take ads from online gambling companies and we'll have another sub-board
(take a look at them all at
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/

if you wanna:
1) moderate it (as you obviuosly know what you are talking about)
2) sell advertising on it (we'll split with you all the business you can bring to make it worth your while)
you'll be able to accomplish your goals, have the cake and eat it too.

whatta you think?
Sounds good, I accept.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 23 2003, 07:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 23 2003, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 04:02 AM
I just want to be a part of something that could help make money and build biz relationships arould the adult industry
************************************************** ***

I can help you there....

VERY soon Oprano is gonna take ads from online gambling companies and we'll have another sub-board
(take a look at them all at
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/

if you wanna:
1) moderate it (as you obviuosly know what you are talking about)
2) sell advertising on it (we'll split with you all the business you can bring to make it worth your while)
you'll be able to accomplish your goals, have the cake and eat it too.

whatta you think?
Sounds good, I accept.[/b][/quote]
cool, go get'em tiger, LMK %% you are looking for
serge ay oprano.com
and as soon as you get the first sponsor,
we'll set up the board

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 04:07 AM
the other thing I don't feel good about it:
Oprano will actually have to organize the games online,
which is a subject to local laws/regulations and the subject to legal liabilities of the unknown proportions...too thin of a line for me to throw my hat into
you could do it with tournament software and not even be associated with any online gaming company. it's not hard to set up.

[masterp74]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 23 2003, 04:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 23 2003, 04:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -masterp74@Dec 23 2003, 07:19 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 04:02 AM
I just want to be a part of something that could help make money and build biz relationships arould the adult industry
************************************************** ***

I can help you there....

VERY soon Oprano is gonna take ads from online gambling companies and we'll have another sub-board
(take a look at them all at
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/

if you wanna:
1) moderate it (as you obviuosly know what you are talking about)
2) sell advertising on it (we'll split with you all the business you can bring to make it worth your while)
you'll be able to accomplish your goals, have the cake and eat it too.

whatta you think?
Sounds good, I accept.
cool, go get'em tiger, LMK %% you are looking for
serge ay oprano.com
and as soon as you get the first sponsor,
we'll set up the board[/b][/quote]
Cool, I'll email in an hour or two with some questions on how I can pitch it. Should be no problem getting sponsers. I gotta go eat something . thanks, Serge.



Last edited by masterp74 at Dec 23 2003, 04:36 AM

[gonzo]

Originally posted by masterp74+Dec 23 2003, 07:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (masterp74 @ Dec 23 2003, 07:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Dec 23 2003, 04:07 AM
the other thing I don't feel good about it:
Oprano will actually have to organize the games online,
which is a subject to local laws/regulations and the subject to legal liabilities of the unknown proportions...too thin of a line for me to throw my hat into
you could do it with tournament software and not even be associated with any online gaming company. it's not hard to set up.[/b][/quote]
Where the tournamet software?

[Rolo]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 20 2003, 10:55 AM
having VERY modest desires and a nest egg I can't outlive even if my desires increase
Serge, are you in Japan? ;-)))

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0...55E1702,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8248586%255E1702,00.html)

Man throws 1m yen from tower
From correspondents in Tokyo
December 23, 2003

A MAN who wanted to share his stock market winnings with the public tossed a million yen ($12,780) worth of US dollar and yen bills from the observation deck of a tower in central Japan today, causing a scramble for the money in the streets below.

The unidentified man grabbed wads of dollar ($1.37) and 100 yen ($1.27) notes from two shopping bags and threw them through an open window of the room at the TV Tower in Nagoya. The room is 100 metres above the street.

The money rained down on the footpaths and streets, where people chased the wind-blown cash. The 100 yen bill is no longer in circulation.

Afterward, the man told NHK television that he wanted to give away some of his profits from playing the stock market earlier this month.

"I have too much money. I don't need it," he said. "I wanted to give some back to the world."

[Winetalk.com]

The 26-year-old man, who is unemployed, had broken no laws, he added.
********************************

and if he did that in USA,
he would be locked up for....
polluting air and illegal dumpiong
;-))))

[Brad Mitchell]

I can think of at least one conflict.... Shoot, this is the first time I find myself going to a show wondering exactly how unfriendly another company is going to be with me. I've never had a pissing match with anybody in the industry and I did my best to avoid this one... but oh well, all I can do is try. There isn't much I can do when someone doesn't respond to calls, e-mails and ICQ messages!

:blink:

Brad

[gonzo]

Originally posted by SinEmpire@Dec 23 2003, 10:35 AM
I can think of at least one conflict.... Shoot, this is the first time I find myself going to a show wondering exactly how unfriendly another company is going to be with me. I've never had a pissing match with anybody in the industry and I did my best to avoid this one... but oh well, all I can do is try. There isn't much I can do when someone doesn't respond to calls, e-mails and ICQ messages!

:blink:

Brad
Dont look at me I didnt do it.

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally posted by gonzo+Dec 23 2003, 07:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Dec 23 2003, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--SinEmpire@Dec 23 2003, 10:35 AM
I can think of at least one conflict.... Shoot, this is the first time I find myself going to a show wondering exactly how unfriendly another company is going to be with me. I've never had a pissing match with anybody in the industry and I did my best to avoid this one... but oh well, all I can do is try. There isn't much I can do when someone doesn't respond to calls, e-mails and ICQ messages!

:blink:

Brad
Dont look at me I didnt do it.[/b][/quote]
...with a pimp smile like that, I knew it couldn't be you!

:yowsa:

Brad

[sextoyking]

Brad,

don't sweat anyone at the shows or other companies. have a good time, push your servies, products as best as you can to your potential customers and you will do just fine :)

I am still waiting for the dates on the Jamaica show, Dokk where are you?? :)