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girlgeek
12-17-2003, 09:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106043,00.html

Judge Grants Hinckley Unsupervised Visits

WASHINGTON — John Hinckley Jr., the man who tried to assassinate President Reagan in 1981, will be allowed to make unsupervised visits with his parents away from the mental hospital where he lives, a federal judge decided Wednesday.

Hinckley's lawyers had argued that psychiatrists favored the idea. But government attorneys said Hinckley is still dangerous -- and that he's been trying to fool his doctors.

U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman issued the order granting Hinckley's request.

Hinckley, 48, has lived at St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington since he was acquitted in 1982 by reason of insanity in the shootings of Reagan, presidential press secretary James Brady and two law enforcement officers. Reagan was nearly killed and Brady was permanently disabled. Hinckley said he shot Reagan to impress actress Jodie Foster.

Friedman attached a number of strict conditions and rejected Hinckley's request to travel to his parents' home in Williamsburg, Va., about three hours south of Washington.

He said a detailed schedule must be submitted to him two weeks before each unsupervised visit. Hinckley must remain under his parents' constant supervision when he's away from the hospital and may not talk to the media or his former girlfriend, Leslie DeVeau.

Hinckley is allowed six day visits within a 50-mile radius of Washington, D.C., and two 32-hour visits within a 50-mile radius of the city.

He and his family must maintain telephone contact with St. Elizabeths at least once a day during each visit. If there are any signs of deterioration in his mental condition he must return to the hospital, the judge said.

During five days of hearings, psychiatrists testifying for Hinckley, the government and the hospital said his mental health had improved to the point where he would not be a threat to himself or others if he were to leave the hospital for visits with his parents.

But government lawyers opposed the request, insisting that the would-be assassin was still dangerous and trying to deceive his doctors.

Former first lady Nancy Reagan said she and her family were disappointed by the ruling.

"Although the judge limited Mr. Hinckley's travel to the Washington, D.C., area, we continue to fear for the safety of the general public," she said in a statement. "Our thoughts are with all of Mr. Hinckley's victims today, especially Jim Brady and his family, as they must continue to live with the tragic consequences of the assassination attempt."

Hospital officials have said there have been no problems with Hinckley on his supervised trips to such places as a bowling alley, the theater and a shopping mall. The Secret Service watches Hinckley whenever he leaves the hospital grounds.

The psychiatrists said allowing Hinckley to leave unsupervised was the next step in his recovery from his mental illness.

Reagan's family and Brady's wife, Sarah Brady, have opposed Hinckley's request. Sarah Brady sent a letter to the judge. Reagan's children, Patti Davis and Ron Reagan Jr., made their opposition known in the media.

sarettah
12-17-2003, 10:16 PM
:headwall: :headwall: :headwall:

Peaches
12-17-2003, 10:41 PM
There are worse psychos than JH walking around every day. :(

Carrie
12-17-2003, 11:26 PM
The people who let this man go free are idiots. It won't be long before we see them on tv saying "We don't know why he didn't return on schedule. He seemed so stable..."

:rolleyes:

sarettah
12-17-2003, 11:28 PM
If he lives long enough to pull a flake out....

There are plenty of folks that wouldn't mind putting a bullet in him....

:unsure:

KRL
12-17-2003, 11:47 PM
Our justice system is fucked up. I bet the Secret Service is hoping this freak tries something so they can take his ass out for good.

Assasins don't belong in mental institutions in the first place. He should have been locked up in prison for life.



Last edited by KRL at Dec 17 2003, 11:56 PM

Dravyk
12-18-2003, 01:24 AM
Ok, it won't be me, so who's going to be the first to make a "Jodie Foster better run to the Panic Room" joke? :D



whoops, maybe it wuz me

Peaches
12-18-2003, 09:27 AM
Folks, the jury and the law are the ones letting him have unsupervised visits (which is really a misnomer, since he WILL be supervised by his family and you can bet the SS will be following him.....) because they are the ones who convicted him of being guilty by reason of insanity and our court system allows for those convicted of this to have the possibility of release with rehabilitation.

It wasn't the judge himself who is in error, IMHO, it's the base court system that allows people off the street as jurors (and I include myself as someone who doesn't have enough legal knowledge to pass judgement) and a verdict that allows eventual release on something like this. :(

Mike AI
12-18-2003, 10:05 AM
It is sad that we live in a country where a man who shot 3 people, one including a President now gets to walk free with the rest of us.

He should be locked up in jail forever...... or executed.

DrGuile
12-18-2003, 11:34 AM
I guess Im just a big softie, but assuming the man was actually insane (we know he was not sane, but eh), he spent 22 years in a mental institute (no walk in the park contrary to what some of you are suggesting, potentially worse than prison life) and he still is only getting 6 days of very relative freedom.

Is it really that bad?

JohnV
12-18-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by DrGuile@Dec 18 2003, 08:42 AM
I guess Im just a big softie, but assuming the man was actually insane (we know he was not sane, but eh), he spent 22 years in a mental institute (no walk in the park contrary to what some of you are suggesting, potentially worse than prison life) and he still is only getting 6 days of very relative freedom.

Is it really that bad?
DrG, when I see you in Vegas this year, I'm making you drink even more than last year just for saying that liberal bullshit...."is it really that bad"? Man, you are soft...and I'm not just talking about your waistline :P

DrGuile
12-18-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by JohnV+Dec 18 2003, 11:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JohnV @ Dec 18 2003, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--DrGuile@Dec 18 2003, 08:42 AM
I guess Im just a big softie, but assuming the man was actually insane (we know he was not sane, but eh), he spent 22 years in a mental institute (no walk in the park contrary to what some of you are suggesting, potentially worse than prison life) and he still is only getting 6 days of very relative freedom.

Is it really that bad?
DrG, when I see you in Vegas this year, I'm making you drink even more than last year just for saying that liberal bullshit...."is it really that bad"? Man, you are soft...and I'm not just talking about your waistline :P[/b][/quote]
Spend 22 years in a mental institute, than we can talk than... ;)


But Im not a 100% still, If it was up to me, probably would have fried him right there 20 years ago.

But your health system took the time to cure him... shouldnt that lead somewhere?

JohnV
12-18-2003, 11:42 AM
We have a health system? :o

Torone
12-19-2003, 07:52 AM
The judge was a Clinton appointee...probably hoping Hinckley will go after another President. Actually, Hinckley should be pushing up daisies. :grrr:

And I consider people in that branch of the medical profession to be nothing more than witch doctors...



Last edited by Torone at Dec 19 2003, 07:02 AM

sarettah
12-19-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by DrGuile@Dec 18 2003, 11:49 AM
But your health system took the time to cure him... shouldnt that lead somewhere?
It should lead right to the doors of Prison.........

Ok, he's well now, so now he can take responsibility for his actions.....

:awinky:

cherrylula
12-19-2003, 11:33 AM
Maybe he will get to visit his friends the bush family...

http://www.rense.com/general45/hink.htm

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Hinckley's family and the family of President George W. Bush have long, complicated ties that have been little reported. Hinckley's brother was scheduled to have dinner at the home of the current President Bush's brother the day after the assassination attempt.