View Full Version : Would You Run Your Business Like This?
Dravyk
12-01-2003, 01:37 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
Diamond Jim
12-01-2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 01:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I agree, it's a ridiculous imbalance..
Lower-income people need to pay MORE..not less....
if i took my business to war in the tale end of a recession, i might run it like that.
can i borrow a gun?
and some money?
IMHO, The dollar will continue to loose value, because of numbers like this.
I just hope "GW Bush, Inc." know what they are doing... it could end up like pissing in your pants. First a nice warm feeling, but as you go on, then it will get cold, and your crocth will start to itch until you have to take your pants off and use baby powder :unsure:
Dravyk
12-01-2003, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by JR@Dec 1 2003, 03:16 AM
if i took my business to war in the tale end of a recession, i might run it like that.
Cool! You should run for president, JR. :wnw:
Btw, who would your company war with?
can i borrow a gun?
and some money?
"Send lawyers, guns and money, the shit's hit the fan" - Warren Zevon
For as long as I can remember the US Government has always borrowed into the future to finance its grotesque, wasteful and corrupt spending.
Our Treasury is run like a Ponzi scheme. It will keep on working as long as we stay in the top position in the world, which won't be a problem, since the US is the only major super power country in the world right now and an enormously wealthy country.
Our current debt is $6.49 Trillion. Our debt is currently increasing by $2.64 Billion every 24 hours.
However it should be noted the entire wealth of everything in the United States as currently estimated by the world bank is over $136 Trillion. So as a percentage of our wealth, our debt ratio is fine and the reason we're able to maintain the Ponzi financing game year after year.
slavdogg
12-01-2003, 05:53 AM
whats the annual growth rate of our national wealth ?
Last edited by slavdogg at Dec 1 2003, 06:03 AM
Winetalk.com
12-01-2003, 07:08 AM
no, but IBM did once..they showed 5 billions defecit one year...didn't hurt them did it?
Torone
12-01-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.
Honestly, if I can hold guns to people's heads and force them to "buy" my product like the government does -- yeah, I probably would. :awinky:
TheEnforcer
12-01-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Rolo@Dec 1 2003, 04:05 AM
IMHO, The dollar will continue to loose value, because of numbers like this.
I just hope "GW Bush, Inc." know what they are doing... it could end up like pissing in your pants. First a nice warm feeling, but as you go on, then it will get cold, and your crocth will start to itch until you have to take your pants off and use baby powder :unsure:
You seem entirely too familiar with that sensation!! :huh: :blink:
:P
Yes, and I have learned my lesson :yowsa:
Dravyk
12-01-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Torone@Dec 1 2003, 11:39 AM
That report stinks of politics.
hahahaha! If you can't believe the facts, it must be politics, huh? Love it!
No wonder PornoDoggy has so much fun conversing with you, Torone. :rolleyes:
Dravyk
12-01-2003, 08:16 PM
Hmm, even "One Of Your Own", John McCain is criticising Republican spending.
McCain says Congress is spending ‘like a drunken sailor’
http://www.communitypapers.com/DAILYCOURIE...400&PubID=11646 (http://www.communitypapers.com/DAILYCOURIER/myarticles.asp?P=857559&S=400&PubID=11646)
Ah, but I'm sure somehow someone here will manage to twist this into some sorta liberal fairy tale. hahahahaha .... As Nicholson said "You can't handle the truth!"
Joe Sixpack
12-01-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Torone+Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Torone @ Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.[/b][/quote]
Are you really a complete fucking idiot or do you just enjoy acting like one?
That $17,000 figure is an AVERAGE. Are you familiar with the word?
They aren't saying that every household pays $17,0000 in tax.
Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Dec 1 2003, 05:42 PM
Winetalk.com
12-01-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Torone@Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.
Are you really a complete fucking idiot or do you just enjoy acting like one?
That $17,000 figure is an AVERAGE. Are you familiar with the word?
They aren't saying that every household pays $17,0000 in tax.[/b][/quote]
Joe, let ME explain YOU what average is...
in 1999 I paid over $8,000,000 in federal taxes...
you are a grown up and should know elementary math..
how many families paying ZERO in taxes would take to make $17,000 AVERAGE?
Joe Sixpack
12-01-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 1 2003, 05:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 1 2003, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by -Torone@Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.
Are you really a complete fucking idiot or do you just enjoy acting like one?
That $17,000 figure is an AVERAGE. Are you familiar with the word?
They aren't saying that every household pays $17,0000 in tax.
Joe, let ME explain YOU what average is...
in 1999 I paid over $8,000,000 in federal taxes...
you are a grown up and should know elementary math..
how many families paying ZERO in taxes would take to make $17,000 AVERAGE?[/b][/quote]
470.
Winetalk.com
12-01-2003, 08:57 PM
exactly....20% of USA pays 80% of the taxes....
i thought spending, taxes and budgets are decided by Congress.
no Democrats approved the bills and taxes?
strange.
Carrie
12-01-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Torone@Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.
Are you really a complete fucking idiot or do you just enjoy acting like one?
That $17,000 figure is an AVERAGE. Are you familiar with the word?
They aren't saying that every household pays $17,0000 in tax.[/b][/quote]
I don't see the word "average" in that quote.
They're not saying that it's an average. They're saying that if you split up the entire tax burden between all of the households in the US, each household would pay $17k in taxes.
That is far different than the average tax burden.
PornoDoggy
12-01-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Carrie+Dec 1 2003, 10:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carrie @ Dec 1 2003, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Dec 1 2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by -Torone@Dec 1 2003, 08:39 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Dec 1 2003, 12:45 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/997307.asp?0cl=c3&cp1=1
"Even conservatives who support tax cuts have begun to note the imbalance. Government spending now totals $20,000 per household, a level not seen since World War II, said Brian Reidl, a federal budget analyst with the Heritage Foundation. Meanwhile, taxes total $17,000 per household."
I would take all that with a grain of salt. The implication is that a lot of people who don't even pay taxes are going to be paying $20k, when they won't. That report stinks of politics.
Are you really a complete fucking idiot or do you just enjoy acting like one?
That $17,000 figure is an AVERAGE. Are you familiar with the word?
They aren't saying that every household pays $17,0000 in tax.
I don't see the word "average" in that quote.
They're not saying that it's an average. They're saying that if you split up the entire tax burden between all of the households in the US, each household would pay $17k in taxes.
That is far different than the average tax burden.[/b][/quote]
According to the process taught to me by Mrs. Meyers back in 1963, if you take the total taxation amount and divide it by the number of households, that would be called averaging.
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