24 years

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24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!

[newb]

Where did you move to when you came here? Did you know anyone here?

just curious

[[Labret]]

At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 23 2003, 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by newb@Nov 23 2003, 07:48 AM
Where did you move to when you came here? Did you know anyone here?

just curious
my first stop was Brooklyn, NYC.

I knew a few people...helped me a lot.

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 07:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
you lack of knowlege is amazing...and I can't wait 'till you leave USA for good.

You are as useful to America as a $3 bill....

adious, motherfucker!
;-)))

[[Labret]]

Ill take that as a yes. Same way Vyacheslav Ivankov got in.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 23 2003, 05:07 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 08:05 AM
Ill take that as a yes.
you can take my hairy ass as a YES, as a NO and as a FUCK YOU....

my hairy ass is like a Torah for you,
it's all in the interpretation.

BTW, despite your board persona, you are a sissy boy on the inside, and your type
1) never delivers on the promises and we'll see you around in June

2) if you leave USA, and I have a feeling it's gonna be your first travel abroad,
you be getting back fast...unless you are dumb enough to cancel your US citizenship.
do it, do it, it's good for the rest of us.

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Dad? A bit under 24 years ago I was seeded, damn you.. fleeing to usa to hide from your responsibilities.

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Same way Vyacheslav Ivankov got in.

Edited by [Labret] - Nov 23 2003, 05:07 AM
********************************************

I happened to know him personally, met him in NJ restaurant.

the funny thing is,
all you can do is ENVY to the people of strong convictions, as you know darn well,
YOU can't act on them,
it takes the back bone you are lacking....
go get another drink, will help your courage
;-)))

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather+Nov 23 2003, 08:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TeenGodFather @ Nov 23 2003, 08:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Dad? A bit under 24 years ago I was seeded, damn you.. fleeing to usa to hide from your responsibilities.[/b][/quote]
son? send me your wiring details,
I have 50,000,000 Turkish liras with your name on it

[[Labret]]

Persona. You people with your personas and personalities. You can interpret the way I speak any way you want. Matters none to me.

You are right, I may still be around in June. I graduate in May and I have a house to sell.

Sorry to disappoint, I used to live in Finland. Attended the U of Helsinki for a year. Have been all over Scandinavia, as far east as St Petersburg, shot content in Estonia, smacked my pud in London, and abused myself in Denmark and the Netherlands.

Just ban me now and get it over with. I found your sweet spot pinko.

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 08:16 AM
Persona. You people with your personas and personalities. You can interpret the way I speak any way you want. Matters none to me.

You are right, I may still be around in June. I graduate in May and I have a house to sell.

Sorry to disappoint, I used to live in Finland. Attended the U of Helsinki for a year. Have been all over Scandinavia, as far east as St Petersburg, shot content in Estonia, smacked my pud in London, and abused myself in Denmark and the Netherlands.

Just ban me now and get it over with. I found your sweet spot pinko.
...and I found yours back in your GFY days...
;-)))

as for Scandinavia...you can't afford it, too expensive for you to live there,
they won't put you on the welfare, you know.

...and what "freedom fighters" you join in Scandinavia?

do you know that Norway got their independence from Sweeded in 1914 and you are 90 years late?
;-)))

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 08:16 AM


Just ban me now and get it over with. I found your sweet spot pinko.
I can';t without MikeAI consencus,
you are a "terrorist" and we are affraid of retaliation and you blowing up your pippy and blame it all on Oprano....

[Forest]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:12 AM
it takes the back bone you are lacking....
go get another drink, will help your courage
;-)))
:okthumb: :salute:

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Originally posted by Forest+Nov 23 2003, 08:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Nov 23 2003, 08:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:12 AM
it takes the back bone you are lacking....
go get another drink, will help your courage
;-)))
:okthumb: :salute:[/b][/quote]
ahhh..children and their "rebel talk".... :barfon:

[Vick]

Serge - Congratulations!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 08:43 AM
Serge - Congratulations!!!!!!
thank you, Vick!

[Vick]

Your welcome!

Serge, you grabbed the America dream, you came to the US, worked smart and hard and prospered (and now you get to live your dream of traveling)

No, the streets aren't paved with gold but there are opportunities

Glad you came mano

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Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 08:57 AM
Your welcome!

Serge, you grabbed the America dream, you came to the US, worked smart and hard and prospered (and now you get to live your dream of traveling)

No, the streets aren't paved with gold but there are opportunities

Glad you came mano
Vick, this si what Forest said
;-))

he is now in Ukraine, birth place of my father,
and something finally hit him:


freewilli (9:34 AM) :
man everyone here is so much more educated then fucking americans
Now i know why peoiple call us dumb

Higher eductaion here is way above us

RusskySerge (9:37 AM) :
I KNOW!!!!! why do you think it's so EASY for me to beat board personalities into the pulp?
;-)))

[Forest]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 09:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 09:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Nov 23 2003, 08:57 AM
Your welcome!

Serge, you grabbed the America dream, you came to the US, worked smart and hard and prospered (and now you get to live your dream of traveling)

No, the streets aren't paved with gold but there are opportunities

Glad you came mano
Vick, this si what Forest said
;-))

he is now in Ukraine, birth place of my father,
and something finally hit him:


freewilli (9:34 AM) :
man everyone here is so much more educated then fucking americans
Now i know why peoiple call us dumb

Higher eductaion here is way above us

RusskySerge (9:37 AM) :
I KNOW!!!!! why do you think it's so EASY for me to beat board personalities into the pulp?
;-)))[/b][/quote]
it is true

people here are verrry poor have few "extras"

But the majority is FAR better educated

Im verry impressed

:wnw: :wnw:

[Peaches]

Glad you found us, Serge! :bjump:

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Originally posted by Forest@Nov 23 2003, 09:02 AM

it is true

people here are verrry poor have few "extras"

But the majority is FAR better educated

Im verry impressed

:wnw: :wnw:
Forest, they are poor because for 75 years they were ruled by uneducated MORONS....give them some time....

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Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 23 2003, 09:03 AM
Glad you found us, Serge! :bjump:
Peaches, I am FAR from being a "founding father"
;-))))))

[Cassie]

theres no other country like this one and i would never leave (even if it meant someone would give me all the money in the world). those who want to leave....good riddence! :salute:

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Cassie@Nov 23 2003, 10:07 AM
theres no other country like this one and i would never leave (even if it meant someone would give me all the money in the world). those who want to leave....good riddence! :salute:
IME, those who say they want to "leave" never do. They want to complain about everything, but realize they won't have it any better elsewhere. B)

[Forest]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 09:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 09:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Nov 23 2003, 09:02 AM

it is true

people here are verrry poor have few "extras"

But the majority is FAR better educated

Im verry impressed

:wnw: :wnw:
Forest, they are poor because for 75 years they were ruled by uneducated MORONS....give them some time....[/b][/quote]
Serge

I keep telling many of them the exact thing

The current problem is Govt corruption

and still alot of the older generations attachemts to the Old Way

I tell them

' you think america was an overnight sucess?"

" we are STILL learning and growing, and making mistakes, your time will come "

and they have only been a democracy for 13 years

They are an Amazing people and Culture

:rokk:

[Sharpie]

Congratulations Serge..... I am sure that this is a special day for you.

Is there any traditional thing you do on this day?

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Originally posted by Sharpie@Nov 23 2003, 09:13 AM
Congratulations Serge..... I am sure that this is a special day for you.

Is there any traditional thing you do on this day?
Sharpie, I celebrate it Everu Thanksgiving, which has a VERY SPECIAL meaninjg to me,
as I came one day before it in 1979...

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Forest, and let's HOPE they never fall in love with...baseball
;-)))

[Forest]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 09:15 AM
Forest, and let's HOPE they never fall in love with...baseball
;-)))
serge

Im teaching the girls all the proper football ediquet

hopefully they will inspire the next generation

:biglaugh: :yowsa:

Gooo
Browns!!!

[FATPad]

Congrats, Serge. :)

[Carrie]

Congratulations, Serge!!
You are living proof of the opportunities here - a foreigner with $39 in his pocket, and look what you have today. It's just amazing.
:okthumb: :okthumb:

[Sharpie]

How old were you when you came here?

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Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 23 2003, 09:23 AM
Congratulations, Serge!!
You are living proof of the opportunities here - a foreigner with $39 in his pocket, and look what you have today. It's just amazing.
:okthumb: :okthumb:
$39??? nope, $153, I was RICH!
;-))))

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Originally posted by Sharpie@Nov 23 2003, 09:24 AM
How old were you when you came here?
22.....young, poor and FREE, and the ONLY last part mattered back in a day

[Vick]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 09:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 09:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Carrie@Nov 23 2003, 09:23 AM
Congratulations, Serge!!
You are living proof of the opportunities here - a foreigner with $39 in his pocket, and look what you have today. It's just amazing.
:okthumb: :okthumb:
$39??? nope, $153, I was RICH!
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Don't foget the 2 packs of Salems :yowsa:

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Originally posted by Vick+Nov 23 2003, 09:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Nov 23 2003, 09:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 09:28 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Carrie@Nov 23 2003, 09:23 AM
Congratulations, Serge!!
You are living proof of the opportunities here - a foreigner with $39 in his pocket, and look what you have today. It's just amazing.
:okthumb: :okthumb:
$39??? nope, $153, I was RICH!
;-))))
Don't foget the 2 packs of Salems :yowsa:[/b][/quote]
ahahhaah, you GOOD, VERY good!
;-)))

yeap, 2 packs of Salem bought on the PanAm flight at 50 cents a pack

[Bishop]

Congradulations Serge! I'm glad you chose America as your place to call home. I'm also pleased that your sharing this day with all of us by mentioning it.

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Originally posted by Bishop@Nov 23 2003, 09:34 AM
Congradulations Serge! I'm glad you chose America as your place to call home. I'm also pleased that your sharing this day with all of us by mentioning it.
hey...I have no problems sharing my "hates",
no reasons to hide my LOVES either
;-))

[sarah_webinc]

Congrats Serge! Moving to the UK when I was 19 was a big enough a deal I can't even imagine what it was like for you. Much respect.

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc@Nov 23 2003, 09:47 AM
Congrats Serge! Moving to the UK when I was 19 was a big enough a deal I can't even imagine what it was like for you. Much respect.
it was GOOD actually...

I got what I wanted,
OUT OF USSR...
my 5 years dream prior to my departure....

[Sharpie]

In '79 my oldest was starting in college..... I am sure she understood the same concept.

Free at last ........ hahahahahahahahaha



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[sarah_webinc]

Serge have you ever seen a film called Local Hero (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0085859/) ? There is a Russian character in that who when I saw it last made me think of you for some reason.



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[Buff]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 06:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I for one am glad you made it here, Serge. Good riddance to the Labrets of the world and welcome to the Serges.

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 04:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
Your free to feel that way Labret, try to remember that fact after your relocation ok? Your also free to leave the US, temporarily or forever, again try to not forget that freedom as you pack. I won't try to slam you for voicing your opinion, no, I wouldn't do that. See, i spent my own little private 'Time In Hell' for you to have the freedoms your currently taking for granted. When you die, hang your head as you cross the gates of heaven, you'll see they are guarded by United States Marines (i'd venture other services as well, but they are not in the poem).
As for Serge
22.....young, poor and FREE, and the ONLY last part mattered back in a day
I disagree with some of the things you say (mostly about your cock!! LOL) but I cannot tell you how much I respect what you said there. You and I share the same love rusky, Lady Liberty is one helluva lover!
during WWII there was a C-rat can found with the following words inscribed on it
"For those who fight for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected never know." I would say getting out from behind the iron curtain qualifies just as much as getting shot at, as fighting for it. I respect the drive and passion and risk it must have taken for you to be able to come here and to succeed.

spaz

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spaz, my cock is average...it grows bigger when it taled over
;-)))

do you know how much I saved on pills by just talking about it?
;-)))

$10,000 saved is $13,000 earned before taxes
;-)))

[Cassie]

Originally posted by Peaches+Nov 23 2003, 10:09 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Nov 23 2003, 10:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Cassie@Nov 23 2003, 10:07 AM
theres no other country like this one and i would never leave (even if it meant someone would give me all the money in the world). those who want to leave....good riddence! :salute:
IME, those who say they want to "leave" never do. They want to complain about everything, but realize they won't have it any better elsewhere. B)[/b][/quote]
that is so very true!

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 07:50 AM
spaz, my cock is average...it grows bigger when it taled over
;-)))

do you know how much I saved on pills by just talking about it?
;-)))

$10,000 saved is $13,000 earned before taxes
;-)))
LOL yeah but i dont wanna know about it hahahahaha

spaz












why do i feel i just opened myself up to the whole "You know you wanna ride my cock." tirades now LOL

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by spazlabz+Nov 23 2003, 07:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (spazlabz @ Nov 23 2003, 07:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 04:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
Your free to feel that way Labret, try to remember that fact after your relocation ok? Your also free to leave the US, temporarily or forever, again try to not forget that freedom as you pack. I won't try to slam you for voicing your opinion, no, I wouldn't do that. See, i spent my own little private 'Time In Hell' for you to have the freedoms your currently taking for granted. When you die, hang your head as you cross the gates of heaven, you'll see they are guarded by United States Marines (i'd venture other services as well, but they are not in the poem).
As for Serge
22.....young, poor and FREE, and the ONLY last part mattered back in a day
I disagree with some of the things you say (mostly about your cock!! LOL) but I cannot tell you how much I respect what you said there. You and I share the same love rusky, Lady Liberty is one helluva lover!
during WWII there was a C-rat can found with the following words inscribed on it
"For those who fight for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected never know." I would say getting out from behind the iron curtain qualifies just as much as getting shot at, as fighting for it. I respect the drive and passion and risk it must have taken for you to be able to come here and to succeed.

spaz[/b][/quote]

My grandfathers, one of which sat in a POW camp for 4 years, fought for our freedoms. My ancestors who fought with the Continental Army fought for my freedoms. You were cannon fodder for college boys playing games (assuming you were in Vietnam or Desert Storm). I dont loathe the military, I feel sorry for those of you who have had to die under the guise of protecting "our" freedoms, when none of them were at stake.

I find it hilarious that I am getting shit for doing what all you patriots tell those of us disenfranchised to do.

"Love it or leave it", "Dont like it, get the fuck out".

So I am.

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I find it hilarious that I am getting shit for doing what all you patriots tell those of us disenfranchised to do.

"Love it or leave it", "Dont like it, get the fuck out".

So I am.
************************************************

hmmm.....I saw NOBODY giving you shit for that...

everybody wishing you bon voyage and "good riddance"....

is Oprano picking on you again?

bad, bad boys and gals!,
I understand you completelly.
;-)))

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 08:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 08:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -spazlabz@Nov 23 2003, 07:47 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 04:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
Your free to feel that way Labret, try to remember that fact after your relocation ok? Your also free to leave the US, temporarily or forever, again try to not forget that freedom as you pack. I won't try to slam you for voicing your opinion, no, I wouldn't do that. See, i spent my own little private 'Time In Hell' for you to have the freedoms your currently taking for granted. When you die, hang your head as you cross the gates of heaven, you'll see they are guarded by United States Marines (i'd venture other services as well, but they are not in the poem).
As for Serge
22.....young, poor and FREE, and the ONLY last part mattered back in a day
I disagree with some of the things you say (mostly about your cock!! LOL) but I cannot tell you how much I respect what you said there. You and I share the same love rusky, Lady Liberty is one helluva lover!
during WWII there was a C-rat can found with the following words inscribed on it
"For those who fight for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected never know." I would say getting out from behind the iron curtain qualifies just as much as getting shot at, as fighting for it. I respect the drive and passion and risk it must have taken for you to be able to come here and to succeed.

spaz

My grandfathers, one of which sat in a POW camp for 4 years, fought for our freedoms. My ancestors who fought with the Continental Army fought for my freedoms. You were cannon fodder for college boys playing games (assuming you were in Vietnam or Desert Storm). I dont loathe the military, I feel sorry for those of you who have had to die under the guise of protecting "our" freedoms, when none of them were at stake.

I find it hilarious that I am getting shit for doing what all you patriots tell those of us disenfranchised to do.

"Love it or leave it", "Dont like it, get the fuck out".

So I am.[/b][/quote]
WHOA! back the train up there big boy. Read my post again, you will see I am NOT giving ou any 'shit' at all. Your free to leave. I personally think it is something you should do, and not nessesarily talk about.


spaz

[Vick]

What are you waiting for
Go now and quickly

Your ignorance is overwhelming and insulting

One day if you are lucky the scales of ignorance may fall from your eyes

You're only allowed those opinions because of the sacrifices of those who went before you and you have the audacity to insult

At best you're a fool

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Originally posted by spazlabz@Nov 23 2003, 11:14 AM

WHOA! back the train up there big boy. Read my post again, you will see I am NOT giving ou any 'shit' at all. Your free to leave. I personally think it is something you should do, and not nessesarily talk about.


spaz
that is the problem with so called "disenfranchised"....they think the world is after them, when in reality the world just doesn't care...

[[Labret]]

Uh oh, got the old folks all riled up.


What are you waiting for
Go now and quickly

Your ignorance is overwhelming and insulting

One day if you are lucky the scales of ignorance may fall from your eyes

You're only allowed those opinions because of the sacrifices of those who went before you and you have the audacity to insult

At best you're a fool


A lot of baseless accusations.

Entertain me and elaborate grampa.

[Vick]

a - you're not worth the pixels on the page

b - you're not intelligent enough to understand - I won't try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes my time

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 08:20 AM
a - you're not worth the pixels on the page

b - you're not intelligent enough to understand - I won't try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes my time

I'll try my hardest to understand, just use small words.

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:17 AM
Uh oh, got the old folks all riled up.


Entertain me and elaborate grampa.
"I am old but have a better insurance"
(--Katie Bates)

in MOST cases old=wise
and
"young" = inexpereinced and greenhorn...
enjoy your glory..
because I can GUARANTEE you become old, I don't see wisdom come to you with age though...too young,
today you are like a very young wine - you have nothing to offer but diareah
;-))


as for entertaintment....
us, old folks, can always use a new punching bag,
Lens supplies us with in exchange for Oprano hits,
and you are living proof of that
;-))))

[Wizzo]

Congrats Serge! :salute:

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 08:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 08:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:17 AM
Uh oh, got the old folks all riled up.


Entertain me and elaborate grampa.
"I am old but have a better insurance"
(--Katie Bates)

in MOST cases old=wise
and
"young" = inexpereinced and greenhorn...
enjoy your glory..
because I can GUARANTEE you become old, I don't see wisdom come to you with age though...too young,
today you are like a very young wine - you have nothing to offer but diareah
;-))


as for entertaintment....
us, old folks, can always use a new punching bag,
Lens supplies us with in exchange for Oprano hits,
and you are living proof of that
;-))))[/b][/quote]

Young? I am 32 and working on my masters. I'll have my phd by 35. You?

Punch away, I am an eager punching bag.

So far all I am getting is a lot of old people boo hoo'ing with little or no substance.



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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:31 AM


Young? I am 32 and working on my masters. I'll have my phd by 35. You?

Punch away, I am an eager punching bag.

So far all I am getting is a lot of old people boo hoo'ing with little or no substance.
I saw the pic of Labret hugging Sleazy...
32???? the kid in the pic was much younger...

32.....ahhh..I was circumsized at 32...lost 2 inches off my dick...
;-)))

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 08:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 08:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -spazlabz@Nov 23 2003, 07:47 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 04:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
Your free to feel that way Labret, try to remember that fact after your relocation ok? Your also free to leave the US, temporarily or forever, again try to not forget that freedom as you pack. I won't try to slam you for voicing your opinion, no, I wouldn't do that. See, i spent my own little private 'Time In Hell' for you to have the freedoms your currently taking for granted. When you die, hang your head as you cross the gates of heaven, you'll see they are guarded by United States Marines (i'd venture other services as well, but they are not in the poem).
As for Serge
22.....young, poor and FREE, and the ONLY last part mattered back in a day
I disagree with some of the things you say (mostly about your cock!! LOL) but I cannot tell you how much I respect what you said there. You and I share the same love rusky, Lady Liberty is one helluva lover!
during WWII there was a C-rat can found with the following words inscribed on it
"For those who fight for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected never know." I would say getting out from behind the iron curtain qualifies just as much as getting shot at, as fighting for it. I respect the drive and passion and risk it must have taken for you to be able to come here and to succeed.

spaz

My grandfathers, one of which sat in a POW camp for 4 years, fought for our freedoms. My ancestors who fought with the Continental Army fought for my freedoms. You were cannon fodder for college boys playing games (assuming you were in Vietnam or Desert Storm). I dont loathe the military, I feel sorry for those of you who have had to die under the guise of protecting "our" freedoms, when none of them were at stake.

I find it hilarious that I am getting shit for doing what all you patriots tell those of us disenfranchised to do.

"Love it or leave it", "Dont like it, get the fuck out".

So I am.[/b][/quote]
cool, your throwing around the 'grandpa' term relating to us old guys. Here goes junior. None of our freedoms were at stake? Really, lets take a look shall we?
Revolutionary War - This DOES apply stud, it is what MADE us Americans and created our freedoms. Someone fought for them and they most definitely were at stake.

Civil War - Duh, again fought for rights Americans take for granted today.

WWI - No your right, no worries about world domination on this one either, what a waste of time that one was.

WII - Threats to our freedom? No way! Germany (or more accurrately Nazis) Japan and Italy only wanted Europe & Asia...........all of it, they were gonna leave the US and our Freedoms alone, sure they were, thats the ticket. There is that sticky litttle fact of the wolf pacts sinking US ships, but fuck it, its only details. And Pearl Harbor?! I guess killing Americans isn't the same as taking their rights correct, well cept for that fist one LIFE liberty and the persuit of happiness.

Korea - She-it! No freedoms at stake on that one at all (by the way, watch the demonstrations in S Korea, the old Koreans who remember what we did still support and love the US while younger, school age Koreans are blissfully ignorant to the facts of life regarding freedoms. Wouldnt it be a hoot to see them all of a sudden ruled by a much less tolerant regime like their friendly neighbors to their North? Yes it would. Pay a visit to the DMZ and see how not only YOUR freedoms, but those of the south koreans are being defended by American soldiers every single day

Those are a few, and if you think the men and women who served in the armed forces during Desert Storm or Vietnam (volunteers) didnt believe that they were defending YOUR RIGHTS your wrong sonny, It appears as though your nothing more than an unsatisfactory product of the American public school system, shame on your history teacher for not giving you the nessesary information of our shared history to allow you to respect this land a little more than you do now.


spaz

[[Labret]]

Ok, so I will go a little slower. This is what I said. Read it again.


My grandfathers, one of which sat in a POW camp for 4 years, fought for our freedoms. My ancestors who fought with the Continental Army fought for my freedoms


The insinuation being that any major conflict pre-Korea was a valid threat on our freedoms. Anything post was not.

Make sense?



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[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:35 AM

I saw the pic of Labret hugging Sleazy...
32???? the kid in the pic was much younger...

32.....ahhh..I was circumsized at 32...lost 2 inches off my dick...
;-)))

So I look young, its a curse and a blessing.

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what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?

[Sharpie]

Like 911 wasn't an assult on our freedoms........

It changed so very, very much; many things that we always took for granted. It has already taken away some of our freedoms. The ripples are still rippling. It was the biggest act fof war, since Pearl Harbor.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:44 AM
what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?

I have bs in anthropology/archaeology and sociology. My MS will be in sociology.

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:44 AM
what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?
LOL I was gonna guess Liberal Arts degree LOL


spaz

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 08:39 AM
Ok, so I will go a little slower. This is what I said. Read it again.


My grandfathers, one of which sat in a POW camp for 4 years, fought for our freedoms. My ancestors who fought with the Continental Army fought for my freedoms


The insinuation being that any major conflict pre-Korea was a valid threat on our freedoms. Anything post was not.

Make sense?
Ok, i can admit to not reading your posts that closely, my bad. Your still wrong, but that was my mistake overlooking the exact wordage you used.


spaz

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Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 11:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:44 AM
what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?

I have bs in anthropology/archaeology and sociology. My MS will be in sociology.[/b][/quote]
interesting....hard nut to crack, I see...
;-)

what would your degree be worth abroad?


you remind me of my father, who waited for the last day in Belarus for his pension to come...
not only he doesn't get it here, but it's worth less than $3 a month even if he did...

why wait 'till may to leave USA for good?
or you ned this degree to fall back after you find that the grass is always greener on the other side, OLD MAN BY GFY STANDARDS?
;-)))

[traffic ho]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I'll be 24 years old on Friday, the 28th of November! :hic: :stout:

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Originally posted by traffic ho+Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (traffic ho @ Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I'll be 24 years old on Friday, the 28th of November! :hic: :stout:[/b][/quote]
did you take Voodoo to Trap to celebrate?
;-))

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 08:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:46 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:44 AM
what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?

I have bs in anthropology/archaeology and sociology. My MS will be in sociology.
interesting....hard nut to crack, I see...
;-)

what would your degree be worth abroad?


you remind me of my father, who waited for the last day in Belarus for his pension to come...
not only he doesn't get it here, but it's worth less than $3 a month even if he did...

why wait 'till may to leave USA for good?
or you ned this degree to fall back after you find that the grass is always greener on the other side, OLD MAN BY GFY STANDARDS?
;-)))[/b][/quote]

I know you like to assume I am poor, but I have made more than enough in smut over the last 6 years to avoid working for the next 20 years. And if things hold out, I'll never have a "normal" job.

That being said, what is my degree worth overseas?

This is something I never understand about people. I go to school and educate myself because I have a genuine love for the subject matter. This is not about getting a job. School is something I do because it is something I love. Some people are obsessed with cars and pussy, I am obsessed with sociological theory and history. I could very well just sit back on my ass and just become another fat rich uneducated American, I choose not to. I will probably spend the rest of my life in academia as a professional student. Nothing makes me happier than sitting in lecture. It is better than sex.



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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:55 AM


I know you like to assume I am poor, but I have made more than enough in smut over the last 6 years to avoid working for the next 20 years. And if things hold out, I'll never have a "normal" job.

That being said, what is my degree worth overseas?

This is something I never understand about people. I go to school and educate myself because I have a genuine love for the subject matter. This is not about getting a job. School is something I do because it is something I love. Some people are obsessed with cars and pussy, I am obsessed with sociological theory and history. I could very well just sit back on my ass and just become another fat rich uneducated American, I choose not to. I will probably spend the rest of my life in academia as a professional student.
where have I ever assumed anything about your finances???

you are making to many assumptions for sociologist
;-)))

ok, I'll bite...where your 20 years supply of dough is invested and how do you intend to protect it from inflation?

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:58 AM

where have I ever assumed anything about your finances???

you are making to many assumptions for sociologist
;-)))

ok, I'll bite...where your 20 years supply of dough is invested and how do you intend to protect it from inflation?

as for Scandinavia...you can't afford it, too expensive for you to live there,
they won't put you on the welfare, you know.


Enough?

Where is my money? We already had this discussion. I am only interested in tax deferment. I have a good bulk in municipal bonds. Dont have to pay taxes and earn a small amount of interest. I do not invest. It sits there or in savings account. I am a single guy with no wife and kids. I do not live big pimpin and have no desire to. I own my home free and clear, I have zero bills and zero debt. My money goes into school and travel.

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 08:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by -[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 11:46 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:44 AM
what kind of degree you are working on? Political Science?

I have bs in anthropology/archaeology and sociology. My MS will be in sociology.
interesting....hard nut to crack, I see...
;-)

what would your degree be worth abroad?


you remind me of my father, who waited for the last day in Belarus for his pension to come...
not only he doesn't get it here, but it's worth less than $3 a month even if he did...

why wait 'till may to leave USA for good?
or you ned this degree to fall back after you find that the grass is always greener on the other side, OLD MAN BY GFY STANDARDS?
;-)))

I know you like to assume I am poor, but I have made more than enough in smut over the last 6 years to avoid working for the next 20 years. And if things hold out, I'll never have a "normal" job.

That being said, what is my degree worth overseas?

This is something I never understand about people. I go to school and educate myself because I have a genuine love for the subject matter. This is not about getting a job. School is something I do because it is something I love. Some people are obsessed with cars and pussy, I am obsessed with sociological theory and history. I could very well just sit back on my ass and just become another fat rich uneducated American, I choose not to. I will probably spend the rest of my life in academia as a professional student.[/b][/quote]
well, thats an interesting point your bring up there. I have a question for you if this is true
I go to school and educate myself because I have a genuine love for the subject matter.
then how can this be true?
I will probably spend the rest of my life in academia as a professional student.
real life has taught me that education of any value is NOT learned in school bro. School is for the paper, the paper is for the job. You can challenge yourself and learn a lot more by NOT going to school, and thats truth.
I worked for Honda of America Manufacturing in East Liberty oHIo, we have a problem that required an engineer to design and build a special lift for us. I was put in charge of making sure it would perform the job as required. I am NOT an engineer. Wen they showed me the prototype, I tested it, fiddled around with it and promptly told him (the engineer) that it MIGHT work, but it would be slow. At 53 cars per minute off the end of the line, speed was/is a major issue. He said "it can facilitate 1500 units per shift." I said something like he was fucking crazy, he said he could prove it, I said do it, and he showed me a fucking piece of paper
a piec e of fucking paper
this was his proof..................... Stupid fuck. I and an entire assembly line (the engine line) proved him wrong, he even actually tried it and damn near killed himself.
Experience teaches better than any book or professor.


spaz

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Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 12:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:58 AM

where have I ever assumed anything about your finances???

you are making to many assumptions for sociologist
;-)))

ok, I'll bite...where your 20 years supply of dough is invested and how do you intend to protect it from inflation?

as for Scandinavia...you can't afford it, too expensive for you to live there,
they won't put you on the welfare, you know.


Enough?

Where is my money? We already had this discussion. I am only interested in tax deferment. I have a good bulk in municipal bonds. Dont have to pay taxes and earn a small amount of interest. I do not invest. It sits there or in savings account. I am a single guy with no wife and kids. I do not live big pimpin and have no desire to. I own my home free and clear, I have zero bills and zero debt. My money goes into school and travel.[/b][/quote]
hmmm...I projected...I've been in Norway in July..
it's expensive for me,
I guess you did much better than me in the last 6 years...


munies do NOT protect you from inflation and rising interest rates...
if this is all you have,
cut 20 years to 5...inflation is coming back,
low US$ will bring it upon us.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by spazlabz@Nov 23 2003, 09:05 AM

real life has taught me that education of any value is NOT learned in school bro. School is for the paper, the paper is for the job. You can challenge yourself and learn a lot more by NOT going to school, and thats truth.
I worked for Honda of America Manufacturing in East Liberty oHIo, we have a problem that required an engineer to design and build a special lift for us. I was put in charge of making sure it would perform the job as required. I am NOT an engineer. Wen they showed me the prototype, I tested it, fiddled around with it and promptly told him (the engineer) that it MIGHT work, but it would be slow. At 53 cars per minute off the end of the line, speed was/is a major issue. He said "it can facilitate 1500 units per shift." I said something like he was fucking crazy, he said he could prove it, I said do it, and he showed me a fucking piece of paper
a piec e of fucking paper
this was his proof..................... Stupid fuck. I and an entire assembly line (the engine line) proved him wrong, he even actually tried it and damn near killed himself.
Experience teaches better than any book or professor.


spaz

I see the point you are trying to make, and it is applicable when it comes to engineering and mind numbing shit like that.

I am a sociologist with a background in anthropology. My subject matter is people. Everytime I leave the house I deal with my subject matter. Just simply "living" I tackle the subject matter. I travel and deal with different cultures. Anthropology, sociology, and archaeology all come into play. I cannot think any other way. A blessing and a curse.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 12:03 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:58 AM

where have I ever assumed anything about your finances???

you are making to many assumptions for sociologist
;-)))

ok, I'll bite...where your 20 years supply of dough is invested and how do you intend to protect it from inflation?

as for Scandinavia...you can't afford it, too expensive for you to live there,
they won't put you on the welfare, you know.


Enough?

Where is my money? We already had this discussion. I am only interested in tax deferment. I have a good bulk in municipal bonds. Dont have to pay taxes and earn a small amount of interest. I do not invest. It sits there or in savings account. I am a single guy with no wife and kids. I do not live big pimpin and have no desire to. I own my home free and clear, I have zero bills and zero debt. My money goes into school and travel.
hmmm...I projected...I've been in Norway in July..
it's expensive for me,
I guess you did much better than me in the last 6 years...


munies do NOT protect you from inflation and rising interest rates...
if this is all you have,
cut 20 years to 5...inflation is coming back,
low US$ will bring it upon us.[/b][/quote]

Dont know, economics and investing bore the shit out of me. I just leave it up to the ABNAmro guy. He says "how much risk you willing to take", I say absolutely none and he tells me what to do.

Norway. Like I said, I dont live big pimpin like you. My tastes are simple. Very simple.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 05:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 05:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 07:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
you lack of knowlege is amazing...and I can't wait 'till you leave USA for good.

You are as useful to America as a $3 bill....

adious, motherfucker!
;-)))[/b][/quote]
:wnw:

[[Labret]]

I go to school and educate myself because I have a genuine love for the subject matter.

then how can this be true?


I will probably spend the rest of my life in academia as a professional student.



I am not sure I follow.

I am not done, a phd is the goal, but it is not the end for me. After sociology I would like to move onto history and religious studies. I minored in both but there is still a lot in both I need to learn. And when I say "need", I mean "NEED".

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 07:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Yup

http://www.letterhead.com/profiles/serge/

[Diamond Jim]

This thread is funny... :rokk:

Many congrats, Serge! America.....what a country.. B)

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 12:13 PM

Dont know, economics and investing bore the shit out of me. I just leave it up to the ABNAmro guy. He says "how much risk you willing to take", I say absolutely none and he tells me what to do.

Norway. Like I said, I dont live big pimpin like you. My tastes are simple. Very simple.
ABNAmro is on the verge of bancrupcy..I'd take his advice with agrain of salt.

As for my living "big pimpin".....oh my,
I never knew I did
;-)))

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Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Nov 23 2003, 01:11 PM
This thread is funny... :rokk:

Many congrats, Serge! America.....what a country.. B)
yeah...and where are my forms you promissed on Monday..last Monday
;-)))

[Nickatilynx]

Congratulations Serge :)

I am pleased you acquired the greatest treasure of all...freedom!!

:)

[Diamond Jim]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 01:28 PM
yeah...and where are my forms you promissed on Monday..last Monday
;-)))
I thought you were gonna look what I sent you over and come back with questions before we moved on to contracts...

I'm not rushing the lawyers, Serge....got two of them arguing back and forth on what should be done...and your in-house one can add to that.. ;)

[Petr_A]

Serge, happy anniversary.

Labret, which country you are planning to go to?

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Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 12:11 PM


I am a sociologist with a background in anthropology. My subject matter is people. Everytime I leave the house I deal with my subject matter. Just simply "living" I tackle the subject matter. I travel and deal with different cultures. Anthropology, sociology, and archaeology all come into play. I cannot think any other way. A blessing and a curse.
..and you are the living proof that the Bible I love so much is right on the money...

"18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
"

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 11:43 AM

..and you are the living proof that the Bible I love so much is right on the money...

"18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
"

No argument from me there. Sometimes I envy the utterly clueless. Ignorance is bliss, Americans are the proof.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Petr_A@Nov 23 2003, 11:00 AM

Labret, which country you are planning to go to?

Well... if I can grow a spine and scrape up some pennies, I am planning on starting off in Ireland. Then working my way east and south through your neck of the woods, ending up eventually (and Serge will love this one) in Israel. I need to witness the cancer from the inside.

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 11:43 AM

..and you are the living proof that the Bible I love so much is right on the money...

"18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
"

No argument from me there. Sometimes I envy the utterly clueless. Ignorance is bliss, Americans are the proof.[/b][/quote]
Thats me to a T, I am utterly clueless, blissfully ignorant and happy as hell.


spaz

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Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 23 2003, 02:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 23 2003, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Petr_A@Nov 23 2003, 11:00 AM

Labret, which country you are planning to go to?

Well... if I can grow a spine and scrape up some pennies, I am planning on starting off in Ireland. Then working my way east and south through your neck of the woods, ending up eventually (and Serge will love this one) in Israel. I need to witness the cancer from the inside.[/b][/quote]
ahhh...I srael,
the country I was affrai of due to the Soviet propaganda, which somewhow affected your brain as well
(mystery to me how THAT happned)
and I fell in love with in 1985 after being there.

[Mystery Man]

Interesting thread however Norway didn't earn its independence from Sweden but Denmark :okthumb:

Just thought I'd set that straight...

ohh well of to bed.

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 01:10 PM
ahhh...I srael,
the country I was affrai of due to the Soviet propaganda, which somewhow affected your brain as well
(mystery to me how THAT happned)
and I fell in love with in 1985 after being there.
I *hated* isreal when I was there 1993 or 94. Such a dirty country, junk everywhere.

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather+Nov 23 2003, 05:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TeenGodFather @ Nov 23 2003, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 01:10 PM
ahhh...I srael,
the country I was affrai of due to the Soviet propaganda, which somewhow affected your brain as well
(mystery to me how THAT happned)
and I fell in love with in 1985 after being there.
I *hated* isreal when I was there 1993 or 94. Such a dirty country, junk everywhere.[/b][/quote]
and how old were you?

and did you know that where you were in Israel,m 50 years ago was a ..DESERT?

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Originally posted by Mystery Man@Nov 23 2003, 05:21 PM
Interesting thread however Norway didn't earn its independence from Sweden but Denmark :okthumb:

Just thought I'd set that straight...

ohh well of to bed.
how much do you wanna bet that you are WRONG?

do you have paypal?

I take it

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Originally posted by Mystery Man@Nov 23 2003, 05:21 PM
Interesting thread however Norway didn't earn its independence from Sweden but Denmark :okthumb:

Just thought I'd set that straight...

ohh well of to bed.
Independence:
7 June 1905 Norway declared the union with Sweden dissolved; 26 October 1905 Sweden agreed to the repeal of the union


http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factb...ok/geos/no.html (http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.html)

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 02:42 PM
and how old were you?

and did you know that where you were in Israel,m 50 years ago was a ..DESERT?
Heh, I was 15. I was in Jerusalem and took a cabride across the desert to Eilat (spelling?).

[Torone]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 06:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Our gain!

[Torone]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 23 2003, 06:51 AM
At the height of US / Soviet paranoia. How did you get out? Were you part of the Soviet program to empty the prisons and ship the riff raff to the US?

You love being here, I am packing my shit and leaving the country come May. Hopefully for good.
Why wait? You could catch a red-eye! :moon:

[dantheman]

cheers my friend :stout:

[Torone]

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 23 2003, 10:20 AM
a - you're not worth the pixels on the page

b - you're not intelligent enough to understand - I won't try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes my time
...and annoys the pig. :D

[Cassie]

labrat i dont think anyone is faulting you for wanting to leave america. i think the way you stated your wants left a few set off. however you cannot ever forget where you came from and the freedoms that your ancestors and others who had family fight in wars afforded you, should never be taken for granted.

for example, you state you are an academic (professional student is more like it) and i think you need to remember how and why that freedom was given to you (of which you take slight advantage of). i say take advantage because unless you are going to do something in your field of education, you are nothing more then pro. student riding the system for no gain at all; i cannot understand those who go through every step of education with no real outcome (most people get an education and advanced education for a better job with better pay). most of us in the adult business have at least a college degree (at least most that i have spoken with) and at some point, the degree is beneficial but then work experience and real life problems/situations kicks in and that is something no college experience can ever give a person.

you state your money is in mutual funds. remember the people who gave you the ability to make that money and the ability to invest it.

there is a reason that people from other countries, to this day, still want to be in this country (and i think this country is at the worst it has ever been).
i think it's great that you want to experience a new way of life however, the life you have now is the reason you want to experience more. imagine living in communist russia or germany back in the day. you would have been shot for those thoughts and your family would have had hardships beyond belief had you tried to leave the one of those countries (or any country under some regeim).

all i am saying is appreciate the things that have been given to you that we all take advantage of; never forget where you came from. this advice will make your experiences all the more better then the resentment i am seeing from your statement.



Last edited by Cassie at Nov 23 2003, 10:31 PM

[TheEnforcer]

:salute: :salute:

[PornoDoggy]

Congratulations, Serge ...

[Torone]

Labret,

And, for Pete's sake, take the time to read the First Amendment to our Constitution...

It says that CONGRESS shall not infringe your freedom of speech. I hate it when people try to pull that crap that they have a right to say whatever they please. Granted, there aren't (supposed to be) any laws saying that you can be arrested for the things you say; but that doesn't mean that you are protected from the ire of the people whom you offend. In fact, you probably only dare to spout off from a distance and from behind a nick... :angry:



Last edited by Torone at Nov 23 2003, 08:54 PM

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 07:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Michael Jackson turned white 24 years ago too!!

Many congrats, Serge! :salute:

[Vick]

Bravo Cassie (and I remember you along with myself also took another GFY reject to task)


and I apologize for a very interesting thread celebrating Serge coming to the USA 24 years ago deteriorating from the celebration

:stout:'s to ya



Last edited by Vick at Nov 23 2003, 10:57 PM

[sarettah]

Congratulations Serge.....

I'm glad to see that 24 years among the infidels has not managed to corrupt you......


:yowsa:

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Cassie@Nov 23 2003, 06:29 PM
labrat i dont think anyone is faulting you for wanting to leave america. i think the way you stated your wants left a few set off. however you cannot ever forget where you came from and the freedoms that your ancestors and others who had family fight in wars afforded you, should never be taken for granted.

for example, you state you are an academic (professional student is more like it) and i think you need to remember how and why that freedom was given to you (of which you take slight advantage of). i say take advantage because unless you are going to do something in your field of education, you are nothing more then pro. student riding the system for no gain at all; i cannot understand those who go through every step of education with no real outcome (most people get an education and advanced education for a better job with better pay). most of us in the adult business have at least a college degree (at least most that i have spoken with) and at some point, the degree is beneficial but then work experience and real life problems/situations kicks in and that is something no college experience can ever give a person.

you state your money is in mutual funds. remember the people who gave you the ability to make that money and the ability to invest it.

there is a reason that people from other countries, to this day, still want to be in this country (and i think this country is at the worst it has ever been).
i think it's great that you want to experience a new way of life however, the life you have now is the reason you want to experience more. imagine living in communist russia or germany back in the day. you would have been shot for those thoughts and your family would have had hardships beyond belief had you tried to leave the one of those countries (or any country under some regeim).

all i am saying is appreciate the things that have been given to you that we all take advantage of; never forget where you came from. this advice will make your experiences all the more better then the resentment i am seeing from your statement.

Well no shit captain obvious. Giving me a brief overview of why I can have the lifestyle I have is laughable at best, as I have spent the last 10 years studying what? Culture and history. Pay attention god damnit. I can assure you my grasp of American history is fine and no additional lecture from the peanut gallery is required.

I dont hate America, I hate Americans. You idiots ruined an otherwise good idea. And I am not alone in my opinion, the rest of the world pretty much feels the same way.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 23 2003, 09:21 PM

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by Forest@Nov 23 2003, 09:10 AM
and they have only been a democracy for 13 years

Former Pres of Ukraine stole like 5 billion and moved to Bay Area
He's here somewhere in jail while his wife and kids are living a good life.

and i'm not so sure that Ukraine is democracy. I thought i read not too long ago and Both Ukraine and Belarus are the only former Soviet republics that are not democratic.

ahhh who cares, fuck Ukraine.

[Mystery Man]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mystery Man@Nov 23 2003, 05:21 PM
Interesting thread however Norway didn't earn its independence from Sweden but Denmark :okthumb:

Just thought I'd set that straight...

ohh well of to bed.
how much do you wanna bet that you are WRONG?

do you have paypal?

I take it[/b][/quote]
Norway was ruled by the kings of Denmark from the 12th century until early in the 19th century (1814).

In 1814, Denmark was penalized for its support of Napoleon by giving Norway to Sweden. Before the transition was carried out, Norway declared itself independent on May 17, 1814. A degree of independence was retained even after Norway became subject to the Swedish Crown.

In 1905, on May 17, Norway declared its complete independence.

I guess I had some of the years fucked up, either way what I was trying to say was that Norway wasn't ruled by Sweden it simply joined unions.

Which was dissolved 1905 as it says.

[Winetalk.com]

I declared Independence from my parent when I was 12....but it took another 10 years to become independent...
same hapened with Norway
;-)))

[traffic ho]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 23 2003, 08:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 23 2003, 08:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -traffic ho@Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I'll be 24 years old on Friday, the 28th of November! :hic: :stout:
did you take Voodoo to Trap to celebrate?
;-))[/b][/quote]
maybe if i'm not hung over on saturday, the day after my 24th birthday, we'll go......

Thanks for the vip card and the 18 year old bottle of scotch serge!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 24 2003, 12:21 AM


I dont hate America, I hate Americans. You idiots ruined an otherwise good idea. And I am not alone in my opinion, the rest of the world pretty much feels the same way.
us idiots???? you are very shy....at least you could have used WE instead of "you"
;-))
but taking responcibility for their actions is NOT what children do, it's more of the adults treat.

Labret, you are just a child who didn't get the candy his way...

what a waste and a confirmation to what Forest mentioned yesterday....
you are a product of a poor American education system.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by traffic ho+Nov 24 2003, 06:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (traffic ho @ Nov 24 2003, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by -traffic ho@Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I'll be 24 years old on Friday, the 28th of November! :hic: :stout:
did you take Voodoo to Trap to celebrate?
;-))
maybe if i'm not hung over on saturday, the day after my 24th birthday, we'll go......

Thanks for the vip card and the 18 year old bottle of scotch serge![/b][/quote]
Mary, it 's 12 years old Scotch
;-)

happy b'day!

[nlphoto]

Originally posted by sarettah@Nov 23 2003, 08:58 PM
Congratulations Serge.....

I'm glad to see that 24 years among the infidels has not managed to corrupt you......


:yowsa:
My congrats too Sergei !

OTOH, Sarettah I'm not sure how many infidels Serge has corrupted...

;-)))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by nlphoto+Nov 24 2003, 07:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nlphoto @ Nov 24 2003, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--sarettah@Nov 23 2003, 08:58 PM
Congratulations Serge.....

I'm glad to see that 24 years among the infidels has not managed to corrupt you......


:yowsa:
My congrats too Sergei !

OTOH, Sarettah I'm not sure how many infidels Serge has corrupted...

;-)))[/b][/quote]
according to Luke Ford,
over a million a day
;-)))

[KRL]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 07:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
20 years ago I started my first 976 program.

God Bless Phone Sex and Alexander Graham Bell!

http://photo2.si.edu/infoage/bell1.gif

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/assets/jb/recon/jb_recon_telephone_1_e.jpg

http://www.monarchyfreecanada.org/images/portrait_bell.jpg

[spanno]

serge is one of those sleeper spys with a suitcase bomb in his garage

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by spanno@Nov 24 2003, 02:27 PM
serge is one of those sleeper spys with a suitcase bomb in his garage
I luv u 2!

[Cassie]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 24 2003, 01:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 24 2003, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Cassie@Nov 23 2003, 06:29 PM
labrat i dont think anyone is faulting you for wanting to leave america. i think the way you stated your wants left a few set off. however you cannot ever forget where you came from and the freedoms that your ancestors and others who had family fight in wars afforded you, should never be taken for granted.

for example, you state you are an academic (professional student is more like it) and i think you need to remember how and why that freedom was given to you (of which you take slight advantage of). i say take advantage because unless you are going to do something in your field of education, you are nothing more then pro. student riding the system for no gain at all; i cannot understand those who go through every step of education with no real outcome (most people get an education and advanced education for a better job with better pay). most of us in the adult business have at least a college degree (at least most that i have spoken with) and at some point, the degree is beneficial but then work experience and real life problems/situations kicks in and that is something no college experience can ever give a person.

you state your money is in mutual funds. remember the people who gave you the ability to make that money and the ability to invest it.

there is a reason that people from other countries, to this day, still want to be in this country (and i think this country is at the worst it has ever been).
i think it's great that you want to experience a new way of life however, the life you have now is the reason you want to experience more. imagine living in communist russia or germany back in the day. you would have been shot for those thoughts and your family would have had hardships beyond belief had you tried to leave the one of those countries (or any country under some regeim).

all i am saying is appreciate the things that have been given to you that we all take advantage of; never forget where you came from. this advice will make your experiences all the more better then the resentment i am seeing from your statement.

Well no shit captain obvious. Giving me a brief overview of why I can have the lifestyle I have is laughable at best, as I have spent the last 10 years studying what? Culture and history. Pay attention god damnit. I can assure you my grasp of American history is fine and no additional lecture from the peanut gallery is required.

I dont hate America, I hate Americans. You idiots ruined an otherwise good idea. And I am not alone in my opinion, the rest of the world pretty much feels the same way.[/b][/quote]
well get a clue you idiot.....youre an american so you must really hate yourself.

god i cant stand self righteous assholes who blow at the mouth (and not a very good blowing at that).

i stand corrected.....get the hell out of this country and don't come back.

be a cow that is hearded cause you surely arent a leader.

adios!

[Winetalk.com]

Cassie, relax....he is pulling your horn...
watching me doing this for so long, inspires a few people
;-)))

[BobaJob]

News Flash.......

Denmark - Porn and hookers have a better effect on the health of old folk than pills and traditional medicine, its claimed.
Staff in an old folks home in Denmark say putting on blue movies for residents and even ordering in vice girls is better than drugs. Medical staff at the home in Copenhagen say the 'natural medicine' of sex is far more beneficial than the likes of cod liver oil and vitamin supplements.
A Danish home made world headlines last week by making public, plans to have a blue movie video night in the communal TV area. Since then, other old folks home have admitted they have been offering extra sex-related services for years. Many homes accept some residents already enjoy regular visits from hookers.

http://www.lastpage.com/jodie19/escorts-magazine/cartoons/oap/oap.jpg

24! Nice One Serge and I knew yer when you was a peasent ;-))

Be Lucky

[Cassie]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 24 2003, 10:37 PM
Cassie, relax....he is pulling your horn...
watching me doing this for so long, inspires a few people
;-)))
youre right....having a bad day is no reason to let such scum get to me. it just irks me that someone from another country has more respect for this country then someone born here.

[Winetalk.com]

holynshit, this is a voice from the past!

quick question..
where did you find this Magrit?
I saw his exhibition in Rome last year,
one of my favorits!

http://www.lastpage.com/bobajobwacky.jpg

[BobaJob]

http://www.lastpage.com/enterwacky.jpg

whats a photo of spanno doing in rome?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BobaJob@Nov 24 2003, 10:35 PM
http://www.lastpage.com/enterwacky.jpg

whats a photo of spanno doing in rome?
oh shit! I just noticed that apple was replaced by pot
;-)))

[BobaJob]

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!

as in...

MEANWHILE BACK AT THE GRAVEYARD

PLOT NO.12

Herein lies the Pope
BLOODY HELL!
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!

Please don't be offended if Catholic
idea courtesy of the book "Twilight of the Gods".

Be Lucky

[Winetalk.com]

Bob, we'll be in London at the end of March...let's get together, it's been a while!

[BobaJob]

look forward to it Uncle!
will keep in touch

[adamneve]

Congrats Serge :bjump:

[traffic ho]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 24 2003, 03:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 24 2003, 03:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -traffic ho@Nov 24 2003, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by -traffic ho@Nov 23 2003, 11:51 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
I'll be 24 years old on Friday, the 28th of November! :hic: :stout:
did you take Voodoo to Trap to celebrate?
;-))
maybe if i'm not hung over on saturday, the day after my 24th birthday, we'll go......

Thanks for the vip card and the 18 year old bottle of scotch serge!
Mary, it 's 12 years old Scotch
;-)

happy b'day![/b][/quote]
hey anything is better than aquavit (norweign potato alcohol)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by traffic ho@Nov 26 2003, 07:06 PM

hey anything is better than aquavit (norweign potato alcohol)
c';mon, I LOVE aquavit
;-)))

[BIW]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Congratulations Serge!!

You have done well in living in a Free Market Economy, but who knows if you had stayed in Russia you may well have made more, and now you'd be the proud owner of one of our English Football Clubs!!!!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BIW+Nov 26 2003, 07:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIW @ Nov 26 2003, 07:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Congratulations Serge!!

You have done well in living in a Free Market Economy, but who knows if you had stayed in Russia you may well have made more, and now you'd be the proud owner of one of our English Football Clubs!!!![/b][/quote]
most likely I'd be dead by now....

[BIW]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 26 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 26 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Congratulations Serge!!

You have done well in living in a Free Market Economy, but who knows if you had stayed in Russia you may well have made more, and now you'd be the proud owner of one of our English Football Clubs!!!!
most likely I'd be dead by now....[/b][/quote]

Looks like you made the wise move then...

Congrats!!!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:23 PM


Looks like you made the wise move then...

Congrats!!!
I NEVER regreted...even when I was cleaning floors...
God Bless America...

[BIW]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 26 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 26 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 23 2003, 04:45 AM
24 years ago I came to USA...
God Bless America!
Congratulations Serge!!

You have done well in living in a Free Market Economy, but who knows if you had stayed in Russia you may well have made more, and now you'd be the proud owner of one of our English Football Clubs!!!!
most likely I'd be dead by now....[/b][/quote]
Normally in a corrupt society the smartest people(Not talking about degrees!!) make there way to the top.

I don't know your situation, but it looks like you made the wise move...

Congratualations and Happy Thanksgiving American!!!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:28 PM

Normally in a corrupt society the smartest people(Not talking about degrees!!) make there way to the top.

I don't know your situation, but it looks like you made the wise move...

Congratualations and Happy Thanksgiving American!!!
my situation was:
if I was there, I'd be in Afganistan...

[BIW]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 26 2003, 04:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 26 2003, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:28 PM

Normally in a corrupt society the smartest people(Not talking about degrees!!) make there way to the top.

I don't know your situation, but it looks like you made the wise move...

Congratualations and Happy Thanksgiving American!!!
my situation was:
if I was there, I'd be in Afganistan...[/b][/quote]
I see. You'd certainly be dead then fighting American's Bin Laden...

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:38 PM

I see. You'd certainly be dead then fighting American's Bin Laden...
or maybe he'd be dead...I get lucky shots from time to time
;-)))

[BIW]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 26 2003, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 26 2003, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BIW@Nov 26 2003, 07:38 PM

I see. You'd certainly be dead then fighting American's Bin Laden...
or maybe he'd be dead...I get lucky shots from time to time
;-)))[/b][/quote]
See serge, you have been an American Hero and saved 4000 odd lives!!!