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Carrie
11-22-2003, 01:05 AM
$140 and a box of Zyban later, I'm ready to give it a go tomorrow. Doc told me it was too late to start with the Zyban, but the OB told me it wouldn't harm the baby whatsoever. So Zyban it is.

I'm looking forward to it - my Mom had some one time and I took it for 3 days, didn't even have the urge to smoke and I was just perfectly happy and feeling good about life in general without that fake "I'm only happy because I'm drugged" feeling.

Wish me luck tomorrow! It'll be good to get this expensive, stinky monkey off of my back.

Wizzo
11-22-2003, 01:25 AM
Good luck.... I'm fairly sure I'll smoke to the grave, but if you can kickit Great! :)

LadyMischief
11-22-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 21 2003, 10:13 PM
$140 and a box of Zyban later, I'm ready to give it a go tomorrow. Doc told me it was too late to start with the Zyban, but the OB told me it wouldn't harm the baby whatsoever. So Zyban it is.

I'm looking forward to it - my Mom had some one time and I took it for 3 days, didn't even have the urge to smoke and I was just perfectly happy and feeling good about life in general without that fake "I'm only happy because I'm drugged" feeling.

Wish me luck tomorrow! It'll be good to get this expensive, stinky monkey off of my back.
Be careful. Zyban can make you spacey and mess with your moods. Best of luck though. If you really want incentive, every time you crave a cigarette, think of what it does to the baby. It's hard as hell, I quit about a year ago and sometimes I still get killer cravings.. But I keep thinking to myself what it would do the baby and it squelches the desire, if not the craving. Keep lots of crunchy things around. Carrots and veggies.. I find these are really the most effective things. Chewing gum can help too. I always chewed the whitening gum that was actually good for my teeth :)

Bishop
11-22-2003, 08:41 AM
Good luck Carrie! I'm sure you will kick the habit I'm just hoping it will be a painless process for you. I've never had much luck. Never been motivated enough I guess.

Sharpie
11-22-2003, 08:54 AM
Carrie, I used Wellbutrin. I really liked it and it has no side effects. It is less money than Zyban, as there is a generic for it. There seems to be no problem with any other medicines you are taking. I found that it really helped with stress also.

After 30 years of smoking I quit. I went to a hyptonist who suggested carrying a bottle of water with me - like I used to carry cigarettes. The bottle of water became my 'new best friend. When I wanted a cigarette, I took a swig of water. I was surprised how easy it was.

I backslid during the Cybernet in Montreal when my back went out, and I was in so much pain.All ll I could do was just sit around with all the smokers for 3 days. I leave to move to Florida for the winter, in a week. The day after moving, I am going to quit again. I know I can do it now...... I know what works for me. It also makes it easier when none of my friends down there smoke.

shawcutie
11-22-2003, 09:35 AM
You are smoking while you are pregnant? :(

Well, I must say good luck!! I hope this works for you! Keep us posted on your progress. With this drug you are taking are you suppossed to stop cold turkey one day or over time?

I have a very bad habit of wanting to smoke when I drink. Its amazing, because normally smoke makes me sick to my stomach. Aaahhhh the effects of a good chocolate martini :headwall:

VooMan
11-22-2003, 09:42 AM
Good luck Carrie! :okthumb:

I've thought about Zyban myself. I know a few people who have taken it, and after a few days they, 1). would forget to smoke and 2). think it tasted disgusting when they did...

Keep us posted. :)



Last edited by VooMan at Nov 22 2003, 09:51 AM

Peaches
11-22-2003, 09:51 AM
I stopped smoking about 15 years ago before they had anything. Cold turkey is the only way. :P

What's the effect of the Zyban on the baby?

Ask ClemsonTiger how well my own person "Make your kid stop smoking" method works. :matey:

cherrylula
11-22-2003, 10:12 AM
Good luck Carrie...

I've known a couple people with serious lung and heart conditions cause their mothers smoked while they were in the womb. Could never play sports or engage in too much physical activity, in addition they never could not smoke anything themselves either as the doctor said it was not a good idea. They have suffered their entire lives cause mom needed to smoke during pregnancy. Such a shame.

I've never been a cigarette addict or a mom, but congrats on the pregnancy.

:)

gigi
11-22-2003, 10:34 AM
Good Luck Carrie!

I as well have tried wellbutrin. Unfortunately, my body didn't like it much and I ended up with a red, itchy rash all over me...ick!

So I went to the patch and it worked. I did 3 months, and then when I was in the midst of buying a house I broke....I guess it was the stress.

I'm quitting again soon using the patch....

Best of luck m'dear and keep us posted!

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 01:04 PM
Smoking while pregnant?

oh man why do people do this to kids?

Mike AI
11-22-2003, 01:11 PM
Good luck Carrie!!

I know you can do it!!!

Vick
11-22-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 22 2003, 09:59 AM
Ask ClemsonTiger how well my own person "Make your kid stop smoking" method works. :matey:
I'll bite - CT how does it work???

Peaches
11-22-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Vick+Nov 22 2003, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Nov 22 2003, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Nov 22 2003, 09:59 AM
Ask ClemsonTiger how well my own person "Make your kid stop smoking" method works. :matey:
I'll bite - CT how does it work???[/b][/quote]
Well, what you do is you come home from lacrosse practice smelling of smoke. Your mother then proceeds to make you smoke a cigarette then eat one (no filter) then smoke one then eat one until the entire pack is gone. (In my case it was 9 cigarettes) Then you proceed to throw up for an hour and then go take a 3 hour nap from the HUGE buzz you have.

clemsontiger
11-22-2003, 08:55 PM
And don't click the link that your mother sends you. It will log you in as her...

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 08:58 PM
americas kids are born addicts like catholic kids are born with sin.

how can you grow when even your mom is against you?

fuck this world.

clemsontiger
11-22-2003, 08:59 PM
OK. this is weird - I sent CT the link to the site and it allowed him to log in as me. I've never posted on his computer so there's no way my PW information is in it.

Then I thought I'd be nice and edit it out for him since it posted under my info, but there's no "edit" option for the post in MY name, but there is for the post under CT's username, I clicked it and it was going to let me edit it - even though it wasn't my post! :zoinks:

I've only had ONE glass of wine tonight so something's not working here - it's not just me. :(

clemsontiger
11-22-2003, 08:59 PM
NOW I'M HIM! :unsure:

Peaches
11-22-2003, 09:01 PM
OK, logged out as him and in as me.

That was bizarre. I NEVER logged out as me and he wasn't on my computer.

I'm so confused.

But I know I'm never sending ANYONE a link here again! :blink:

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 22 2003, 06:06 PM
americas kids are born addicts like catholic kids are born with sin.

how can you grow when even your mom is against you?

fuck this world.
oh! good lord, mommy needed a stogey now i cant breathe.

the picture of a gagging child should be enough to make you quit smoking without some medicating patch devices.

the fact that women do this is enough to glorify abortion.

most women do not DESERVE TO GIVE BIRTH.

Carrie
11-22-2003, 09:41 PM
Fletch it might be time to put down the beer and back away from the keyboard.
You're quoting yourself, and not making any sense while doing so.

cherrylula
11-22-2003, 09:46 PM
He makes pretty good sense if you're not pregnant and smoking.

:X

Carrie
11-22-2003, 09:48 PM
Ahh, I get it. You have to be drunk and high instead.

Gotcha. :okthumb:

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 22 2003, 06:49 PM
Fletch it might be time to put down the beer and back away from the keyboard.
You're quoting yourself, and not making any sense while doing so.
its clear to me mommy.

keep smoking.

its always the fault of the parents.

point at me all you want.

smoke up.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 22 2003, 06:56 PM
Ahh, I get it. You have to be drunk and high instead.

Gotcha. :okthumb:
no, one must smoke whgile pregnant to understand, and then point at others.

keep smoking.

keep pointing the finger, it makes it right.

cherrylula
11-22-2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 22 2003, 06:56 PM
Ahh, I get it. You have to be drunk and high instead.

Gotcha. :okthumb:
I'd rather be drunk and high, than pregnant and inflicting suffering on a person that is not even born yet.

And I will take that to the grave.

cheers

:stout:

Biggy
11-22-2003, 09:51 PM
I decided to quit about a week ago.

I was never a big smoker, but I found myself having a few everyday for almost 6 months, id go thru maybe 1.5-2 packs a week. Been 7 days strong, no cravings...

every time I see someone smoking a cigarette, I realize how disgusting it is. Good luck!

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 09:58 PM
what a glass house for one to sit behind.

an oprah statistic live in the flesh.

id kill my mom if she had smoked during her pregnancy.

no wonder your kids prefer guns over love, their own parents are killing them even before birth.

we hate you because you fed us hate, even before birth.

dont hate us because you poison your children.

Sausage
11-22-2003, 10:01 PM
Jesus fletch .. put down the bong and give the lady a break!

she is trying to quit because of the baby. Hats off to her imho

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Sausage@Nov 22 2003, 07:09 PM
Jesus fletch .. put down the bong and give the lady a break!

she is trying to quit because of the baby. Hats off to her imho
yeah, its the guy telling a woman she should NOT smoke during pregnancy that is at fault over the woman doing so.

save your sermon for a fucking priest.

these women do not deserve to have children let alone the right to poison them before they are born.

its now become a criminal offense, and rightfully so. Carrie is always the one to jump in a express her opinion, ill be damned if i hold mine back when it regards her sitting back and toking nicotin while her chil suffers fotr her choices.

fuck pride nigger, this is about a kid that has ALWREADY BEEN CONDITIONED TO NEGLECT.

read it how you want, the truth is louder than words.



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 22 2003, 07:14 PM

VooMan
11-22-2003, 10:12 PM
Hey CT, Peaches, and Edd...

I have noticed this too. One time I sent Tony a link to a thread on this board and when he clicked it he was logged in as me. Possible security issue?

Now back to the topic at hand...

Sausage
11-22-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Nov 22 2003, 07:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Nov 22 2003, 07:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Sausage@Nov 22 2003, 07:09 PM
Jesus fletch .. put down the bong and give the lady a break!

she is trying to quit because of the baby. Hats off to her imho
yeah, its the guy telling a woman she should NOT smoke during pregnancy that is at fault over the woman doing so.

save your sermon for a fucking priest.

these women do not deserve to have children let alone the right to poison them before they are born.

its now become a criminal offense, and rightfully so. Carrie is always the one to jump in a express her opinion, ill be damned if i hold mine back when it regards her sitting back and toking nicotin while her chil suffers fotr her choices.

fuck pride nigger, this is about a kid that has ALWREADY BEEN CONDITIONED TO NEGLECT.

read it how you want, the truth is louder than words.[/b][/quote]
If you really cared about the welfare of the kid, then you would support the mother who decided to quit because of the kid.

I find it rather odd that if you feel that strongly about it, you will try to break her down?

Nickatilynx
11-22-2003, 10:16 PM
yeah, its the guy telling a woman she should NOT smoke during pregnancy that is at fault over the woman doing so.

save your sermon for a fucking priest.

these women do not deserve to have children let alone the right to poison them before they are born.

its now become a criminal offense, and rightfully so. Carrie is always the one to jump in a express her opinion, ill be damned if i hold mine back when it regards her sitting back and toking nicotin while her chil suffers fotr her choices.

fuck pride nigger, this is about a kid that has ALWREADY BEEN CONDITIONED TO NEGLECT.

read it how you want, the truth is louder than words.



You really should quit drinking.



save your sermon for a fucking priest.


Same to you ,you are the one behaving like one. Drunk and dogmatic.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:16 PM
if i really catred, blah blah blah. Like im the civil servant arranged for chil abuse.

Yeah pin it on me as if its my reponsibility.

You have a mom ADMITTING to smoking during pregnancy, and you feel the need to address me?

Your throwing darts at the wrong board idiot.

Mommy is killing her baby and its my fault?

ill have a drink and saulte you baby killing nicotin addicts.

funny.



:stout:

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2003, 07:24 PM




You really should quit drinking.

Again, a woman admits to smoking during pregnancy, and i am fault?

what a fucking joke.

keep smoking mom your peers support you



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 22 2003, 07:26 PM

Nickatilynx
11-22-2003, 10:25 PM
Again, a woman admits to smoking during pregnancy, and i am fault?


Yes.

She is trying to quit .

Instead of encouraging her to do so , and being supportive you behave like a drunken oaf.

Damn , I am glad I quit. You really should consider doing the same.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:31 PM
ohhhhh. Ok, i get it now.

Im supposed to be the NA and AA for the addicted moms.

Ive been though NA, and AA, i feel njo fucking pitty for these addicted moms.

I feel so bad that she is addicted to nicotin so much she is willing to risk her childs life.

Sorry guy, ive had friends that couldnt even snowboard becayse mom was a cig addict, you expect sympathy fro me?

hahahah

not in this life time.

blame me all you want, it wasnt my fault mommy needs a cigarette.



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 22 2003, 07:40 PM

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:33 PM
oh and BTW i quit smoking cigs cold turkey OCT 97 - just becayse someone is so addicted they need some kind of medication deserves no respect from me.



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 22 2003, 07:41 PM

Sausage
11-22-2003, 10:38 PM
Fletch you really need to resist standing on your soapbox with your fingers in your ears.

It happens far too much and doesn't earn you any respect.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:40 PM
im not hear to earn your respect.

thats the difference between me and most of you.

if i was here for freidns i wouldnt charge people for my services.

hahaha

anyhow, distort it however you want.

Fact it: a child has been and most likely tonight been exposed to something that is killing him or her and yet you guys feel the need to point at me, thats cool. Point away.

While you digest your pride a child is digesting a cloud of death.

mask it how you want.

Nickatilynx
11-22-2003, 10:41 PM
It happens far too much and doesn't earn you any respect.
:okthumb:

Trust me , no point arguing with a drunk.

cherrylula
11-22-2003, 10:43 PM
Funny, the thread title is "anyone quitting smoking for the holidays"

not

"anyone quitting smoking while they are pregnant"

Just an observation.

:)

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2003, 07:49 PM
It happens far too much and doesn't earn you any respect.
:okthumb:

Trust me , no point arguing with a drunk.
nothing better than watching people shoot down another.

watching someone defend the child abusing actions of another is almost as amiusing.

cheers nick.

i am regretful you seem to be now opposed to me solely because i voiced an opinion on a woman smoking during pregnancy.

Nickatilynx
11-22-2003, 10:53 PM
am regretful you seem to be now opposed to me solely because i voiced an opinion on a woman smoking during pregnancy.


I am not opposed to you at all ,fletch.

I am not for her smoking during pregnancy.

There is not one person on this board that would congratulate a woman FOR smoking during pregnancy.

You , however , are the ONLY one that feels the need to harass and bully a pregnant woman that is trying to give up.

Do you see my point?

Winetalk.com
11-22-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2003, 11:01 PM

Do you see my point?
tmorrow Oprano Morning Headlines:

Punk Rockers Harass Pregnant Women!
;-))))

Nickatilynx
11-22-2003, 10:57 PM
I prefer

"Drunk punk debates donut hunk"

;-)))

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2003, 08:01 PM
am regretful you seem to be now opposed to me solely because i voiced an opinion on a woman smoking during pregnancy.


I am not opposed to you at all ,fletch.

I am not for her smoking during pregnancy.

There is not one person on this board that would congratulate a woman FOR smoking during pregnancy.

You , however , are the ONLY one that feels the need to harass and bully a pregnant woman that is trying to give up.

Do you see my point?
Ah ok.

So I'll sit down calmy, and shut my mouth.

Hope her actions are forgotten.

I can see how most parental abuse is covered up, hell its accepted amongst adults.

So ok, we cool now, let it all go back to how it was.... never turn your back on an addiction, its sad kids have to fight a war mommy started.

I have worked with kids, both deaf and abandoned, in fact I have raised money for them for over a decade. I will never let some half ass mom get in the way of what a kid deserves.

I have worked with klids and they deserve more than they get.

make me out to be the bad guy, its silly.

i have put in more hours to chuild rehabilitation that most have put in for their own kids.

it isnt my responsibility but i do it because it feels right....

keep making me out to be an asshole when im the martyr for the children you dont even have.

i have given kids a smile when they had none.

THAT is what makes me scream for them when their own parents are poisoning them.

cheers.

:stout:

PornoDoggy
11-22-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 22 2003, 10:39 PM
ohhhhh. Ok, i get it now.

Im supposed to be the NA and AA for the addicted moms.

Ive been though NA, and AA, i feel njo fucking pitty for these addicted moms.

I feel so bad that she is addicted to nicotin so much she is willing to risk her childs life.

Sorry guy, ive had friends that couldnt even snowboard becayse mom was a cig addict, you expect sympathy fro me?

hahahah

not in this life time.

blame me all you want, it wasnt my fault mommy needs a cigarette.
It will still be there for you when you are ready for it ... if you're that lucky.

Carrie
11-22-2003, 11:17 PM
Cherry, I asked if anyone was quitting for the holidays because in case you haven't noticed, I am one of 3 people on this board who are pregnant and AFAIK, the other two don't smoke.
So asking the non-pregnant women and the can't-get-pregnant men if they are quitting smoking for their pregnancies would have been rather stupid, don't you think?
I thought if anything, someone else might be quitting around this time for the holidays.

Fletch - Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, meet Pot.

You guys can berate me and bash me all you want, ignoring the fact that I am trying to quit. The mere fact that you are ignoring that makes all of your rantings and preachings moot.

Besides, taking sermons from someone who feels the need to brag about his alcoholism and his 420 celebrations is just too funny for words.
So I choose not to.
Preach to the wall - you might convince it that you are more than a rebel without a cause.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 11:21 PM
Carrie, you dont like me, never have thats fine. I like watching you write paragraphs.

on the real though, yuou should spend more time worrying about the life inside of you instead of my comments on a board.

PornoDoggy
11-22-2003, 11:24 PM
Carrie, I think your desire to quit for your pregnancy is great.

I'd seek out a few more opinions on the affects of Wellbutrin on pregnant women, since you've gotten two different opinions on it would be my only advice. Yes, smoking during pregnancy does cause some problems, but it's not likely to cause problems for your child should he or she someday decide to snowboard. :rolleyes:

cherrylula
11-22-2003, 11:24 PM
blah, blah, blah... glad Fletch seems to irritate you so much, your comments are funny. Smoke up mom.

oh yeah, what's AFAIK? I almost don't want to ask...

PornoDoggy
11-22-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 22 2003, 11:29 PM
Carrie, you dont like me, never have thats fine. I like watching you write paragraphs.

on the real though, yuou should spend more time worrying about the life inside of you instead of my comments on a board.
Duuuuuuuuuude ... you're starting to sound a lot like confucy.

Back slowly away from the bottle ...

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 22 2003, 08:32 PM
Carrie, I think your desire to quit for your pregnancy is great.

I'd seek out a few more opinions on the affects of Wellbutrin on pregnant women, since you've gotten two different opinions on it would be my only advice. Yes, smoking during pregnancy does cause some problems, but it's not likely to cause problems for your child should he or she someday decide to snowboard. :rolleyes:
Are you saying a friend of mine who had severe respritory problems known to have been brought on by his moms smoking is a lie?

Id like to see you tell him that to his face.

his lungs never formed correctly due to moms nictonin, whether you accept it or not.

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Nov 22 2003, 08:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Nov 22 2003, 08:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 22 2003, 11:29 PM
Carrie, you dont like me, never have thats fine. I like watching you write paragraphs.

on the real though, yuou should spend more time worrying about the life inside of you instead of my comments on a board.
Duuuuuuuuuude ... you're starting to sound a lot like confucy.

Back slowly away from the bottle ...[/b][/quote]
cheers.



:rokk:

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 11:34 PM
i am the cormorant perched looking down upon you christians.

hate me all you want, i call a spade, and accept your envy.

its cool, i realize few can comprehend yet realize actions aside from the abuse they are used to.

cheers.

labels are nothing more than a sticker you dont want to lick anymore.

enjoy the night.

:salute:

Carrie
11-22-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Biggy@Nov 22 2003, 09:59 PM
I decided to quit about a week ago.

I was never a big smoker, but I found myself having a few everyday for almost 6 months, id go thru maybe 1.5-2 packs a week. Been 7 days strong, no cravings...

every time I see someone smoking a cigarette, I realize how disgusting it is. Good luck!
Biggy good going!! Keep it up!!

Fletch XXX
11-22-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Carrie+Nov 22 2003, 08:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carrie @ Nov 22 2003, 08:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Biggy@Nov 22 2003, 09:59 PM
I decided to quit about a week ago.

I was never a big smoker, but I found myself having a few everyday for almost 6 months, id go thru maybe 1.5-2 packs a week. Been 7 days strong, no cravings...

every time I see someone smoking a cigarette, I realize how disgusting it is. Good luck!
Biggy good going!! Keep it up!![/b][/quote]
'Madonna has a dragon under her skin, pushing against her soul.'

so funny the stones youve thrown in a glass house.

Peaches
11-22-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 22 2003, 11:20 PM
Hey CT, Peaches, and Edd...

I have noticed this too. One time I sent Tony a link to a thread on this board and when he clicked it he was logged in as me. Possible security issue?

Now back to the topic at hand...
Yeah, and then since he was "me", he logged out and back as him and so when I posted, it said I was logged on as "him". :unsure: And we were on two completely different computers and neither of us has used the other's computer to post on this board.

Odd. I'll alert my boyfriend/lover/etc., Gonzo to the problem while we're in bed tonight. :awinky: (and if you haven't been following Confucy's accusations, then I apologize for the confusion, hehehe. B) )

And Fletch - if you're going to attack Carrie for smoking while she's pregnant, shouldn't you attack me for making my kid smoke AND eat what was left of the pack I caught him with? :P

Carrie
11-22-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 22 2003, 11:29 PM
Carrie, you dont like me, never have thats fine. I like watching you write paragraphs.

on the real though, yuou should spend more time worrying about the life inside of you instead of my comments on a board.
I do not dislike you. I am ambivalent towards you, as you are of no consequence to me whatsoever.

PornoDoggy
11-23-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 22 2003, 11:51 PM
Odd. I'll alert my boyfriend/lover/etc., Gonzo to the problem while we're in bed tonight. :awinky: (and if you haven't been following Confucy's accusations, then I apologize for the confusion, hehehe. B) )
Damn, woman, you seem to have more partners than I could fit on that chocolate brown sectional sofa I had in the 70s ... :)

Vick
11-23-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2003, 11:05 PM
I prefer

"Drunk punk debates donut hunk"

;-)))
Great line Nick!


Fletch - Carrie should get support, not condemnation
Can you agree with that?

Tough situation and Carrie is doing the best thing she can, if you can't support/get behind that and not make negative remarks ......

and I really don't want to piss on/with you because I have enjoyed conversing with Cherrylula

What do you think?

Carrie
11-23-2003, 02:03 AM
I've been hearing so much lately about google cutting out spam - pah!
Try typing "zyban pregnancy" into google (no quotes) and see how many pages you get through before you get tired of looking for a relevant article!

PD I went over to Babycenter and WebMD finally and found a few notes about it here and there, all saying that Zyban is safe. I'll still get another opinion, though.

Today will be lollipop and Sharpie's Sports Bottle day. :)
Jolly Rancher makes some of the best-tasting lollipops, big huge square things that you can wedge in the roof of your mouth between your teeth and just slobber on for half an hour. (yummmmmy)

Peaches
11-23-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Nov 23 2003, 01:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Nov 23 2003, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Nov 22 2003, 11:51 PM
Odd. I'll alert my boyfriend/lover/etc., Gonzo to the problem while we're in bed tonight. :awinky: (and if you haven't been following Confucy's accusations, then I apologize for the confusion, hehehe. B) )
Damn, woman, you seem to have more partners than I could fit on that chocolate brown sectional sofa I had in the 70s ... :)[/b][/quote]
I do pretty good for a fat chick. :P

LadyMischief
11-23-2003, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by cherrylula+Nov 22 2003, 06:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cherrylula @ Nov 22 2003, 06:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Carrie@Nov 22 2003, 06:56 PM
Ahh, I get it. You have to be drunk and high instead.

Gotcha. :okthumb:
I'd rather be drunk and high, than pregnant and inflicting suffering on a person that is not even born yet.

And I will take that to the grave.

cheers

:stout:[/b][/quote]
You guys act like it's easy to quit.. It's not. Believe me I struggled with quitting for a long time too. I'm not smoking now, but that doesn't mean I don't crave it, it's STILL hard. She has expressed the will to quit smoking, and you guys are crucifying her for what? To make a point? Drinking alcohol and smoking up really no better, whether you're doing it to your body or your baby's. Instead of sitting there saying "How could you do that to a baby", why not say "How can I help support you in your efforts?" I guess it's easier to sit and judge and point fingers than it is to help? I'm not trying to be bitchy, but as a reformed smoker myself, I happen to know that the kind of superior attitude you guys are foisting off on Carrie does NOTHING to help the conviction to quit. If you REALLY want to be helpful, offer to be someone to talk to when things get hard, and offer words of encouragement.

Carrie, I know how hard it is. If you need someone for some support, believe me I'm there for you! Icw 3522039.

LadyMischief
11-23-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Carrie@Nov 22 2003, 11:11 PM
I've been hearing so much lately about google cutting out spam - pah!
Try typing "zyban pregnancy" into google (no quotes) and see how many pages you get through before you get tired of looking for a relevant article!

PD I went over to Babycenter and WebMD finally and found a few notes about it here and there, all saying that Zyban is safe. I'll still get another opinion, though.

Today will be lollipop and Sharpie's Sports Bottle day. :)
Jolly Rancher makes some of the best-tasting lollipops, big huge square things that you can wedge in the roof of your mouth between your teeth and just slobber on for half an hour. (yummmmmy)
Honestly, the Zyban might help, but you would probably be better off in the long run to use behavioral quitting.. As in replacing the bad behavior (smoking) with a new one. And make sure to have a stress-free zone you can go to when things get rough. I know with kids it can be a huge stress sometimes, but have a room you can go to for a second, take a few deep breaths and calm down, breathe your way through the craving. It really does help.

Meni
11-23-2003, 10:00 AM
quitting smoking?
I know Forest quit smoking pole 2 summers ago
and he hasn't been seen at the rest area since
the truckers miss you bro

Forest
11-23-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Meni@Nov 23 2003, 10:08 AM
quitting smoking?
I know Forest quit smoking pole 2 summers ago
and he hasn't been seen at the rest area since
the truckers miss you bro
PPPPPPPUUULLLEEEAAASSSEEEEEEEE

i recall someone running from the parking lot at scarletts during a smoiking event not to be seen again for the evening

Meni
11-23-2003, 10:08 AM
I had to take an important phone call

Forest
11-23-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Meni@Nov 23 2003, 10:16 AM
I had to take an important phone call
glory hole huh?

Sharpie
11-23-2003, 10:22 AM
Carrie - Make sure you brush your teeth after that lolipop........

Food taste in your mouth seems to bring on that behavioural thing of wanting to smoke after meals. Brush your teeth or use mouth wash often. That is why water is so good - it doesn't leave the food taste.

Sharpie
11-23-2003, 10:30 AM
I found this on http://www.webmd.com - there is lot's of stuff there you might want to read if you haven't been there.

"Bupropion (the idgredient if Zyban) is in the FDA pregnancy category B. This means that it is unlikely to harm an unborn baby. Do not take bupropion without first talking to your doctor if you are pregnant"

Fletch XXX
11-23-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by LadyMischief@Nov 23 2003, 06:14 AM

You guys act like it's easy to quit.. It's not.
Where did I say it was easy?

I dont think its a matter of choice when it is regarding a child life.

I have been through both NA and AA and smoked cigs for years and quit smoking cigs as well.

Spare me how hard the test is, I have quit smoking as well as harder things.

No one said it was easy.

Good luck Carrie, I hope for your child sake you beat it.

Nickatilynx
11-23-2003, 01:47 PM
Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more." - Proverbs 31:6-7

;-))))