Exercise Bikes

[FATPad]

Anyone have one? I'm looking for a basic one to get me through the winter. Nothing fancy, but looking around online for them is a nightmare. Too many models and options.

Any suggestions on models or brands?

Thanks.

[spazlabz]

Sorry, wish I could help
I have a recumbant bike (for my T-shirts)
A bowflex (for my jackets)
and a treadmill (for my trousers)
getting to be a pain in the ass dusting them all LOL

spaz

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by spazlabz@Nov 7 2003, 05:24 PM

getting to be a pain in the ass dusting them all LOL


my girl convinced me to buy a total gym one time.

was a bitch repacking it to sell on ebay.

hahaha

[Nickatilynx]

Make sure you don't get one that you have to like pull/push the handlebars.

Makes it hard to eat and smoke when pedalling.

;-)

[TeenGodFather]

I have one in my bedroom, facing the TV.
I use it to hang my dirty clothes on when I go to bed.
(my laundry basket's been full for months, gotta buy new clothes soon)

[VooMan]

hahaha Spazlabz, that's funny and so true... :)

I have a really good recumbant bike. It's a Lifecycle 9500R like you would find in a health club. I'm going to put mine on Ebay... I have a problem with my knee, and believe it or not the bike aggravates it but walking seems doesn't bother it a bit. I'm going to trade the bike for a treadmill...

FATPad, I honestly don't recommend a cheap bike. They never run that well and they don't last. You can get a good refurbished Lifecylce for around $1300 and it will last forever. If that's not what you're looking to spend, I recommend a Tunturi. They make excellent bikes... All the gadgets are what add to the price, so you can save a few bucks by cutting down on those options. Some have more pre-programmed routines, heart monitors, etc... which add up. All you really need to do is pedal your ass off and you can check your pulse by hand, so all the extras aren't really necessary.

And of course you can buy my Lifecycle and save me the trouble of putting an ad on Ebay. :awinky:

Hope that helps...

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 05:34 PM
I recommend a Tunturi. They make excellent bikes...
Damn. right, everything coming out of Finland is quality. Except me, I have no class.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather+Nov 7 2003, 09:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TeenGodFather @ Nov 7 2003, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 05:34 PM
I recommend a Tunturi. They make excellent bikes...
Damn. right, everything coming out of Finland is quality. Except me, I have no class.[/b][/quote]
But you're as cute as a button! Do people say that about Tunturi bikes? Huh? I didn't THINK so - you win. :awinky:

[cherrylula]

Those total gyms will take off a finger if you're not careful when you fold them up. Fuck those things!

[VooMan]

TGF, you seem like a good guy, and hell, Peaches thinks you're cute! Doesn't look like it's a bad day for you...

Total Gym? Bah... I don't have a guest room because of my home gym. Mind you, I don't *look* like I work out, but now that I finally figured out how to get some cardio without my knee swelling up I've got a shot at losing this extra baggage. Already down 10 pounds since the summer... :okthumb:

edit: how long does it take before I am no longer putting the cock in cockholster? hahaha





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[Giuseppe]

All depends on your budget ! If your looking for basic Schwinn makes some excellent choices. If you want to go progamable , Life is definitly a top choice but I have my eye on the Natilus 2000 !
If your in Canada email me ! My day job is selling fitness Equipment ! Maybe I can help more !

Joe !

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 05:50 PM
TGF, you seem like a good guy, and hell, Peaches thinks you're cute! Doesn't look like it's a bad day for you...
I love my life.

[VooMan]

I will now pass over the discussion to Giuseppe. I don't sell fitness equipment, just one bike on Ebay. heh

[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 05:53 PM
I will now pass over the discussion to Giuseppe. I don't sell fitness equipment, just one bike on Ebay. heh
That's a sweet bike you have Vooman ! Anybody who jumps on your deal has it pretty good ! A new home version (like the R7) will run you at least $2700.00 CDN

[VooMan]

Yep, it's an excellent bike. Pity I barely use it...

The thing I find really strange is that a low impact exercise like riding a bike absolutely kills my knee, and walking seems to help it. Who would have thought? I started walking about three weeks ago and I have had absolutely no pain...

Got any recommendations on a good treadmill? I've heard that manual treadmills are better than motorized when it comes to calories burned, but the decks are really small on the manual treadmills. Nordic Track used to make a manual one (the 5000 series I think) and I would think that would be good... however I'm not sure how smooth the manual treadmills are.

I'd like to work up to walking an hour a day. What treadmill would you recommend? And if I get a motorized one, how many horses is adequate for that amount of time every day? My mom bought a cheap treadmill a while back, and of course the motor burned out really quick...

Any suggestions?

[mojobill]

Sell your exercise bike?


But where will I hang my coat then???

[Giuseppe]

I don't recommend manuel treadmills ! You can't jog or run on them ! You have no choice but to hold on to the handles and push the tread below you ! if you let go to start jogging the belt will stop ! I stopped selling them a few years ago cause of the complaints from clients who hurt there backs using them !

Two things to look for in a treadmill ,
1- you need minimum a 2 hp continous motor ! Don't look at peak duty , it means nothing !
2- You want to make sure the frame is heavey enough for your wieght ! When trying it out bring it up to at least a decent jogging speed and make sure it doesn't shake below you !

A few sugestted brands
Trimline (the new models are getting awsome at very reasable prices!)
Pacemaster (probably the best bang for the buck)
Life Fitness (such a sweet machine)
Precor (my personal favorite , but definitly the best on the market!)

If your worried about your knees , try an elliptical traner !

[Peaches]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 10:20 PM
I'd like to work up to walking an hour a day. What treadmill would you recommend? And if I get a motorized one, how many horses is adequate for that amount of time every day? My mom bought a cheap treadmill a while back, and of course the motor burned out really quick...

Any suggestions?
An hour a day is really pretty easy on a treadmill unless you put the speed faster. Due to my bum leg, I don't go faster than 3.5 MPH because then I'm running and I pay for it later. :(

I bought mine at WalMart for less than $400. It was rated #1 or #2 with Consumer Reports. It's not one of the fancy smancy ones, but it's all you really need. It has an incline, pulse monitor, drink holder B) , etc.

Of course, being the great exerciser that I am, I'm must too lazy to walk down 2 flights of stairs to tell you the exact name, but maybe the basement dweller will read this and do it. Or I'll get it for you tomorrow. :awinky:

[XXXPhoto]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 06:20 PM
Yep, it's an excellent bike. Pity I barely use it...

The thing I find really strange is that a low impact exercise like riding a bike absolutely kills my knee, and walking seems to help it. Who would have thought? I started walking about three weeks ago and I have had absolutely no pain...

Got any recommendations on a good treadmill? I've heard that manual treadmills are better than motorized when it comes to calories burned, but the decks are really small on the manual treadmills. Nordic Track used to make a manual one (the 5000 series I think) and I would think that would be good... however I'm not sure how smooth the manual treadmills are.

I'd like to work up to walking an hour a day. What treadmill would you recommend? And if I get a motorized one, how many horses is adequate for that amount of time every day? My mom bought a cheap treadmill a while back, and of course the motor burned out really quick...

Any suggestions?
Voo...

Just a tip in case you haven't tried them yet... My mom spent few k on nice
treadmill few years ago but found out that using it made her physically
ill (nausea/motion sickness)... This didn't happen when she tried it out in
the store for a few minutes but rather when she had at home doing
actual workouts...

Not saying that it is common but is something to test out at a gym before
you pony up the dough for one of these!

Congrats on the 10lbs! Another low impact one is 'pool walking' (I'm sure
it has some fancy name but that's what I call it)... I go to pool at the gym
and just walk laps. Those floating 'water weights' are also great for
stretching out and resistance type workout (again, low impact)...

Port that Tunak Tunak vid to mp3 and beboop around your neighborhood...
lol...

[FATPad]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 05:34 PM
hahaha Spazlabz, that's funny and so true... :)

I have a really good recumbant bike. It's a Lifecycle 9500R like you would find in a health club. I'm going to put mine on Ebay... I have a problem with my knee, and believe it or not the bike aggravates it but walking seems doesn't bother it a bit. I'm going to trade the bike for a treadmill...

FATPad, I honestly don't recommend a cheap bike. They never run that well and they don't last. You can get a good refurbished Lifecylce for around $1300 and it will last forever. If that's not what you're looking to spend, I recommend a Tunturi. They make excellent bikes... All the gadgets are what add to the price, so you can save a few bucks by cutting down on those options. Some have more pre-programmed routines, heart monitors, etc... which add up. All you really need to do is pedal your ass off and you can check your pulse by hand, so all the extras aren't really necessary.

And of course you can buy my Lifecycle and save me the trouble of putting an ad on Ebay. :awinky:

Hope that helps...
How much are you looking for, for your bike? (Just curious)

I'll check out the Tunturi's. Like you said, the options add up quickly on the price, and honestly, I don't need anything more than something I can pedal for 45 mins or an hour, so that Lifecycle may be overkill for me.

[FATPad]

Originally posted by Giuseppe@Nov 7 2003, 06:49 PM
I don't recommend manuel treadmills ! You can't jog or run on them ! You have no choice but to hold on to the handles and push the tread below you ! if you let go to start jogging the belt will stop ! I stopped selling them a few years ago cause of the complaints from clients who hurt there backs using them !

Two things to look for in a treadmill ,
1- you need minimum a 2 hp continous motor ! Don't look at peak duty , it means nothing !
2- You want to make sure the frame is heavey enough for your wieght ! When trying it out bring it up to at least a decent jogging speed and make sure it doesn't shake below you !

A few sugestted brands
Trimline (the new models are getting awsome at very reasable prices!)
Pacemaster (probably the best bang for the buck)
Life Fitness (such a sweet machine)
Precor (my personal favorite , but definitly the best on the market!)

If your worried about your knees , try an elliptical traner !
I've had back problems in the past, and I have a bad ankle still.

Is there something that would be better for me than a bike? I was walking 3 or 4 miles 4 or 5 times a week, but winter is here, and honestly, my ankle was getting bad, so I was going to have to find something else anyways.

I don't know dick about gym equipment. ;) But I figured the bike would be easiest on my ankle. Is that right?

[VooMan]

Interesting...

Thanks for the info Giuseppe. No manual for me then... I like Precor and Life Fitness, so I'll probably go that route. Any special model you like best? The other day I saw a treadmill with a five horse motor. (insert Tim Allen grunt)

Hey Peaches, tell the basement dweller I'd appreciate it. I don't want you to work too hard. :nyanya:

And XXXPhoto, I can't even tell you how much my Tunak Tunak buddy has improved my workouts. And I have a bunch more avatars! hahaha

[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by FATPad@Nov 7 2003, 07:17 PM
traner !
I've had back problems in the past, and I have a bad ankle still.

Is there something that would be better for me than a bike? I was walking 3 or 4 miles 4 or 5 times a week, but winter is here, and honestly, my ankle was getting bad, so I was going to have to find something else anyways.

I don't know dick about gym equipment. ;) But I figured the bike would be easiest on my ankle. Is that right?[/quote]
Yes a Bike would be easy on your ankles ! If you have back problems then you should consider a recumbent cycle.

I too have bad ankles and a bum knee ! I own a bike and an Elliptical trainer. Both are very easy on all your joints. BUt the big problem with bikes are that they tend to get boring ! I hardly use my bike compared to my elliptical. Another big thing to consider is getting something to keep you motivated !

XXXphoto gave some excelent advise , Join a gym (take a one week trial) try all the equipment ! figure out what you like and dislike about each of the equipment and find a specialty store that will guide you proprely towards what your needs are !

Good equipment will cost you an arm and a couple of toes , So you should really know what you want before you dish out that cash !

[VooMan]

Sorry FATPad, I forgot to answer your question. The most important one, mind you. :unsure:

I see my bike selling like hotcakes on Ebay for about $1350, so that's what I'd like to get for it... I've never sold anything on ebay before, and I'd really like the buyer to pick it up. It'll have to go on a pallet otherwise, and who knows what the shipping would be...

[VooMan]

Very good advise Giuseppe... I belonged to a gym before I bought my house and I tried everything. Back then the bike didn't bother my knee so I thought I would go with the low impact.

The girls on the treadmills were always cuter though. Always walking so fast... Too bad I could never catch up to them. LOL

[Billy]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 08:50 PM
edit: how long does it take before I am no longer putting the cock in cockholster? hahaha
You dont know how bad I want to respond to this one : )

[FATPad]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 07:31 PM
Sorry FATPad, I forgot to answer your question. The most important one, mind you. :unsure:

I see my bike selling like hotcakes on Ebay for about $1350, so that's what I'd like to get for it... I've never sold anything on ebay before, and I'd really like the buyer to pick it up. It'll have to go on a pallet otherwise, and who knows what the shipping would be...
Yea. The shipping would be nasty on a bike like that, I think.

Thanks, anyways. :)

[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 07:28 PM
Interesting...

Thanks for the info Giuseppe. No manual for me then... I like Precor and Life Fitness, so I'll probably go that route. Any special model you like best? The other day I saw a treadmill with a five horse motor. (insert Tim Allen grunt)

You've fallen into that marketing trap ! That 5 hp motor is a peak duty , it means shit ! the deparment store will advertise that ! but when you look at the specs properly you will see that the 5.1 hp only has a continous rating of 1.5 or 2 hp ! If the guy at Sears fails to mention that fact to you, when you walk into a specialty store and they try to sell you a Precor at 3 times the price you just saw that 5.1hp (tim allan grunt!) And he tells you the precor only has a 2.75 hp ! It's gonna make you wonder !

I'm a gadget kinda guy and the Precor 9.35 has ever button you can think of ! Touch sensitive buttons , direct numeric speed and incline imput , fitness test , Heart rate control programs and so much more ! The 9.33 and the 9.31 are just as Good but much simpler ! The features just depends on wghat you like ! One will not make you fitter than the other !

[FATPad]

Originally posted by Giuseppe@Nov 7 2003, 07:31 PM
traner !
I've had back problems in the past, and I have a bad ankle still.

Is there something that would be better for me than a bike? I was walking 3 or 4 miles 4 or 5 times a week, but winter is here, and honestly, my ankle was getting bad, so I was going to have to find something else anyways.

I don't know dick about gym equipment. ;) But I figured the bike would be easiest on my ankle. Is that right?
Yes a Bike would be easy on your ankles ! If you have back problems then you should consider a recumbent cycle.

I too have bad ankles and a bum knee ! I own a bike and an Elliptical trainer. Both are very easy on all your joints. BUt the big problem with bikes are that they tend to get boring ! I hardly use my bike compared to my elliptical. Another big thing to consider is getting something to keep you motivated !

XXXphoto gave some excelent advise , Join a gym (take a one week trial) try all the equipment ! figure out what you like and dislike about each of the equipment and find a specialty store that will guide you proprely towards what your needs are !

Good equipment will cost you an arm and a couple of toes , So you should really know what you want before you dish out that cash ![/quote]
Elliptical?

*Off to look at ellipticals after I figure out what they are*

[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by FATPad@Nov 7 2003, 07:43 PM

Elliptical?

*Off to look at ellipticals after I figure out what they are*
It's the lastest craze ! It's a cross between walking and cycling. Kinda like cycling standing up ! So you get all the benifits of walking or running with zero impact on your joints !

Elliptical sales in the US have surpassed Treadmills sales , here in Canada it catching up very fast !

Check out precor's website ! The invented it but there are some really good cheaper models on the market !

[VooMan]

Originally posted by Giuseppe@Nov 7 2003, 10:42 PM
You've fallen into that marketing trap ! That 5 hp motor is a peak duty
Ah, you know what? You're probably right... I am aware of peak and continuous, but I'll be the fiver is peak. Another good point. :okthumb:

You wanna talk about Tim Allen grunts? Back in the old days I worked in a cabinet shop. Used to run something like this:

http://www.holzma.com/cms/en/Products?g_iProduct=289

Woo hoo! That saw is 25 feet by 25 feet, just to give you some perspective. Bob Vila can kiss my ass! hahaha

[Carrie]

Ellipticals are ones that have your feet moving in ovals (like when you run naturally) rather than strict circles (like when you're biking).
I've got one.

Of course, I can't use it because the kidlets insist on getting too close to the damn footpads and get knocked in the head, or they want to get on it with me, or they start ooohing and aaahing at the fan going around in the front wheel cage and start sticking things like pennies and fingers in there... *sigh*

They don't make home exercise equipment that comes standard with a 6-foot steel cage to put around it.

[VooMan]

Giuseppe, what the hell?

http://www.precor.com/hpr_tre_935.php Comes with four userid's????

http://www.precor.com/hpr_tre_931.php Has a password protection feature????

Man, that must be some damn good treadmill to be password protected! I think you just sold me on the Precor. :okthumb:

:)



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[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 07:56 PM
You wanna talk about Tim Allen grunts? Back in the old days I worked in a cabinet shop. Used to run something like this:

http://www.holzma.com/cms/en/Products?g_iProduct=289

Woo hoo! That saw is 25 feet by 25 feet, just to give you some perspective. Bob Vila can kiss my ass! hahaha
Is it wrong to be turned on by equipment like that ?


LOL

[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 08:01 PM
Giuseppe, what the hell?

http://www.precor.com/hpr_tre_935.php Comes with four userid's????

http://www.precor.com/hpr_tre_931.php Has a password protection feature????

Man, that must be some damn good treadmill to be password protected! I think you just sold me on the Precor. :okthumb:

:)
Well If you are a serious buyer ! email me I'll quote you a price ! I have shipped as far as Florida for clients before !

[VooMan]

Is it wrong to be turned on by equipment like that ?
LOL

hahaha well apparently the Precor's are just as technical... :awinky:

That saw is amazing, but it's basically bottom of the barrel. Those four slots in the front are where you would stand, and yes, it's an air table. You can cut up to eight sheets of three quarter inch material at a time and the air table makes it easy to move.

There's another model where you drop a skid of material behind the saw and it will move up on a scissor lift and the machine will actually grab how many sheets it needs based on the cut-right software...

But alas, automation kills craftsmanship. The guy running that saw probably makes about 8 bucks an hour and can cut about $100k worth of cabinet parts per day...

Well If you are a serious buyer ! email me I'll quote you a price ! I have shipped as far as Florida for clients before !

I'm gonna look around a while, but stick around the boards will ya? :)



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[Giuseppe]

Originally posted by VooMan@Nov 7 2003, 08:12 PM

I'm gonna look around a while, but stick around the boards will ya? :)
I'll be around ! Other than bed for the night I'm not going anywhere !

[Peaches]

(this is going to be a long post, stop now if you're not interested in treadmills :awinky: )

I have the Image 10.0

Here's the Consumer Reports report - couldn't link because it's a membership site:

Best values in treadmills

More than 10 million Americans hop onto a treadmill every few days, making it one of the most widely used pieces of exercise equipment. Perhaps that’s because a treadmill can be used day or night, rain or shine. Or perhaps it’s because it’s so effective; treadmill exercise has been demonstrated to burn calories more quickly than exercise on several other types of equipment, including stair climbers, rowing machines, exercise riders, and exercise bikes. Our own research has shown that treadmills are less likely than other machines to sit unused.


WHAT’S NEW

As the treadmill market matures, manufacturers are fine-tuning and adding features. The 15 models we tested for this report, priced from $325 to $3,500, have notable features such as these:

Improved motor housing. Increasingly, it’s concave and located farther from the control console so you’re less likely to kick it with a long stride.

Higher inclines. This lets you increase the intensity of your workout. The belt on some treadmills can rise to a very steep grade of up to 15 percent (the equivalent of scaling an 800-foot hill in a one-mile walk).

Upper-body. Several treadmill models have some feature intended to give the upper body, not just the legs, a workout. This is a good idea in theory, but not always well designed. For example, the ProForm Crosswalk Advanced 525x has poles that attach to the frame and can be levered back and forth. We found this version of a cross-country skiing workout awkward because you can’t secure the poles if you want to let go of them in midroutine. Two other treadmills come with hand weights that can easily be stored on the console.


HOW TO CHOOSE

At its heart, a treadmill is an endless belt looped around rollers, propelled by an electric motor, and supported by a deck on a metal frame. Electronic controls and displays let you change the belt’s speed, vary the pitch of the deck, and monitor your progress.

The main features to look for in any treadmill are these:

A belt that’s long enough to accommodate your stride and wide enough to let you walk or run comfortably.

Wide foot rails that make it easy to get on and off the belt.

Handrails that are at the right location for you to grip and keep your balance.

A well-labeled speed control that allows you to change the belt speed precisely.

Shop smart: Treadmill features shows a number of other details that may influence your choice.

We recommend auditioning the machine in the store before buying. Here are a few points to consider to match the machine to your mode of exercise:

Will I be walking or running? The models we tested go from a starting speed of about a half-mile per hour to 12 mph, fast enough even for elite runners. Runners in particular should focus on very sturdy construction to ensure that the machines can take a beating. All the treadmills we bought withstood our high-intensity durability testing without damage to the deck or frame. But the ProForm CT 1160 and the Reebok RX 5000 showed an unusual amount of wear on the deck padding; both have thick, soft cushioning between the belt and the deck.

How much variety do I need? Some treadmill users prefer to control speed and incline by hand. For them, any machine in the Ratings will do. But if you prefer preset or customized routines, you’ll have to spend more money. The more sophisticated programs adjust speed and incline to your heart rate.

Several models offer iFIT, a program developed by Icon Health & Fitness, the nation’s largest treadmill maker. With iFIT and a computer hookup, you can either sample exercise routines that change daily or follow a "virtual trainer’s" guidance from the iFIT Web site. Our past tests found the virtual trainer option, at $30 for 45 minutes, enjoyable but not necessarily a good value.

Is space an issue? If so, consider a folding treadmill. You can fold 8 of the 15 models we tested and save about 10 square feet of floor space. You fold the typical treadmill by grabbing one end of the deck and lifting. Treadmills that offer two easy-grip surfaces at the sides of the deck are ergonomically better than those with a one-hand center grip.

Try folding the machine in the store to identify idiosyncrasies. The Horizon Fitness Tsc2, for example, has a pneumatic device that helps lift and lower the deck, but it tilts disconcertingly at first. The Image 10.0 was one of the easiest to fold and lock, we found.

Can I assemble it myself? Only the Reebok RX 5000 and ProForm CT 1160 arrived completely assembled. Others take about an hour to put together. If you’re not handy or especially strong, you may need help. When you buy, find out whether home delivery means a drop-off at the curb, the front door, or inside.


RECOMMENDATIONS

For walkers. It’s OK to consider a low-priced treadmill. You won’t get many features or amenities, but you probably won’t need them for regular, modest workouts. Look to the Image 10.0, $450, or the Weslo Cadence 450, $325. One drawback to both: Neither has a belt that can be dropped to horizontal; using these treadmills means always moving up at least a slight incline, which may give you a more intense workout than you’d like.

For runners. Look for a machine with solid construction, a large belt, controls that are responsive, and displays dedicated to the information you need. That means spending $1,000 or more. We recommend the Vision Fitness T9200, A CR Best Buy at $1,350. The top-rated True 400 HRC, $2,200, is the best choice overall. It had a very stable ride, excellent controls and displays, a very large tread belt area, a powerful motor, and a deck that rises to a challenging 12 percent grade.

In construction and ergonomics, the Vision Fitness T9200 bested models costing as much as $2,400. But it has no preprogrammed exercise routines and no heart-rate monitor. The similar T9300 has programmed routines.

For multiple users. The treadmills we recommend for runners also work if you like to run but your spouse wants to walk, or if you like to run and walk.

When buying, look for a warranty of at least two years for parts and one year for labor. Don’t reject a treadmill if it comes with a shorter warranty, but consider buying an extended warranty. Among the treadmills we tested, extended warranties range from $70 to $150 per year.

[spanno]

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/c9/7a/2003-Kona-Stuff-bikes.jpg

[Peaches]

Originally posted by spanno@Nov 9 2003, 10:18 AM
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/c9/7a/2003-Kona-Stuff-bikes.jpg
Tell ya what - you come ride one of those around MY subdivision. :yowsa: If you can get up the driveway, you'll be in great shape.