Which Marx made the greatest contribution

[Vick]

Crossed my mind (short trip) this evening

While Karl Marx issued Manifest der kommunistischen Partei (Communist Manifesto) in the hope of precipitating social revolution .....
So far that hasn't really worked and (IMNSHO) at best are marginally interesting to read and then follow the influence his writing and work had

Grouch gave us entertainment and thought provoking witticisms that still hold true and amuse us

Wonder if MTV could do a Marx Celebrity death match :groucho:

[PornoDoggy]

Duck Soup is much more entertaining than the manifesto ... :)

[Vick]

Animal Crackers for your Duck Soup after A night at the Opera followed by a Day at the Races

[TeenGodFather]

I wish Groucho would have authored the communist manifesto, russia would have been a much happier place.

[sarettah]

Hail Hail Freedonia !!!!!!!!

My alma mater (or at least one of dem):
http://ww1.fredonia.edu/fweb/default.aspx


:groucho:

[The Truth Hurts]

This one.

http://www.lyrics.com/m/marx,_richard/richard.marx.jpg

[Vick]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts@Nov 3 2003, 11:22 PM
This one.

http://www.lyrics.com/m/marx,_richard/richard.marx.jpg
Ewe .... :P
80's hair - is that a mullet? :unsure:

[Dravyk]

Poor Harpo never gets talked about.

[Vick]

Originally posted by Dravyk@Nov 4 2003, 12:03 AM
Poor Harpo never gets talked about.
Oh the irony :groucho:

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Vick+Nov 4 2003, 12:15 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Nov 4 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Dravyk@Nov 4 2003, 12:03 AM
Poor Harpo never gets talked about.
Oh the irony :groucho:[/b][/quote]
I figured you would enjoy that, Vick! :)

[nlphoto]

oh please...

zeppo was the least known...

anyways, if harpo had known that orprah would
bastardize his name into her production company
he'd have chosen another name... :nyanya:



Last edited by nlphoto at Nov 4 2003, 07:03 AM

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather@Nov 3 2003, 09:26 PM
I wish Groucho would have authored the communist manifesto, russia would have been a much happier place.
:okthumb:
hahhahahaha
;-)))

[Fletch XXX]

"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 4 2003, 07:42 AM

[JR]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 4 2003, 07:41 AM
"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?
Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by nlphoto@Nov 4 2003, 10:02 AM
oh please... zeppo was the least known...

Naw, few people ever remember the fourth brother ... Guido Marx. :P

[Nickatilynx]

Naw, few people ever remember the fourth brother ... Guido Marx.

They never mention the slightly strange brother Emma Marx.

;-))

[Vick]

or the one that had a lot to say

Re Marx

[Nickatilynx]

or the one that had a lot to say

Re Marx


ahahahahahahahahahha

The blues singing brother

Black Marx

[Trev]

What about the least liked brother of all:

Skid Marx

[Nickatilynx]

What about the least liked brother of all:

Skid Marx

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Vick]

Originally posted by Trev@Nov 4 2003, 01:53 PM
What about the least liked brother of all:

Skid Marx
That's really shitty to bring him up

[Nickatilynx]

ahahahahahahahahahaha

OK, Vick , you've gone too far!

I think this thread should now be closed!

[Trev]

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 4 2003, 09:12 PM
That's really shitty to bring him up
I know, I know.. trust me to lower the tone :D

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by JR+Nov 4 2003, 08:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Nov 4 2003, 08:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 4 2003, 07:41 AM
"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?
Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"[/b][/quote]
What are you suggesting Marx "borrowed"? And who did he "borrow" it from?

[JR]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 5 2003, 01:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 5 2003, 01:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -JR@Nov 4 2003, 08:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 4 2003, 07:41 AM
"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?
Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"
What are you suggesting Marx "borrowed"? And who did he "borrow" it from?[/b][/quote]
now i understand why you are "JoeSixpack" and not "Joe the Literate"

[Fletch XXX]

A very addicting site

http://www.marxists.org

[JR]

I love reading this stuff. I speak Russian fairly well and have read all of Lenins writings as well as studied East European History of the last century quite a bit. When reading their writings and considering it within the context of the times they were writing in, it makes a lot of sense.

here is most of Lenins stuff in English.
http://www.newyouth.com/archives/classics/...by_vi_lenin.asp (http://www.newyouth.com/archives/classics/works_by_vi_lenin.asp)

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 4 2003, 10:41 AM
"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?
It is, of course, a well known fact that Franklin Roosevelt was a Jew. That truth was established by a prominent German politician in the 1930s-40s. If you are inclined to believe in the theories proffered by the likes of such people - or if you are inclined to believe it matters one fucking bit whether he was or wasn't - than I am sure you can take whatever is on that website as absolute truth. :rolleyes:

But the profound truth goes far beyond plagarism by Marx and an early Roosevelt. I mean, can't you see the significance?

CLINTON Roosevelt? Ohmyohmy ... the plot thickens :ph34r:

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by JR@Nov 5 2003, 08:35 AM
When reading their writings and considering it within the context of the times they were writing in, it makes a lot of sense.

yes it does.

i like reading all this as well.

historical writings hold all the secrets to the wool over our eyes.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Nov 5 2003, 08:37 AM
If you are inclined to believe in the theories proffered by the likes of such people - or if you are inclined to believe it matters one fucking bit whether he was or wasn't - than I am sure you can take whatever is on that website as absolute truth. :rolleyes:


'My mom taught me at an early age to not believe anything, that anyone says.' - Charles Manson

There is no truth except right now.

http://members.tripod.com/~Borocar/sci-gov/



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 5 2003, 08:50 AM

[photogregg]

The unheard of Marx but one of the most important: Sam Marx
My mom had him as a sugar daddy for 30 years when I was in Hollywood. Started with Mayer and Thalberg, now MGM...discovered a cutie and put her in Lassie Come Home, Elizabeth Taylor...one of the behind the scenes moguls of the movie biz.

He died last year at the age of 101...my mom got some nice goodies, the best is Post Office Box 1, Beverly Hills, CA

Do a google search on Sam Marx...amazing life.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by JR+Nov 5 2003, 08:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Nov 5 2003, 08:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by -JR@Nov 4 2003, 08:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 4 2003, 07:41 AM
"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?
Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"
What are you suggesting Marx "borrowed"? And who did he "borrow" it from?
now i understand why you are "JoeSixpack" and not "Joe the Literate"[/b][/quote]
So answer the question.

[[Labret]]

I am supposed to believe that most of the people in this thread have read Marx and understand it? right.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 5 2003, 03:59 PM
I am supposed to believe that most of the people in this thread have read Marx and understand it? right.
I've only read the Communist Manifesto. Capital put me to sleep.

I'm interested to know what J.R. thinks Marx "borrowed". The implication being that Marx was some kind of German commie plagarist.

Marx took the ideas of others - like Hegel's dialectic - and applied it to his own work, sure. But that's not ripping off someone else's stuff.



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Nov 5 2003, 04:13 PM

[[Labret]]

I agree. To say he is a difficult read is an understatement. Reading it is one thing, understanding him is another. Many a phd thesis has been written that just involve dumbing his material down. None of the critics on here have made any statement beyond the standard kneejerk comments about his ideas on the shortcomings of capitalism. Which only prove they have no idea the breadth and the scope of his work. I am trying my hardest not to get involved in this thread. Marx was a genius.

I can hear it now, "but he was wrong about the revolution". Listen up halfwits. Marx was writing at a time when the proletariate were working under conditions that one could barely imagine now. Marx only failed to predict the ability of capitalism and the means of production to adapt. It would have only been a matter of time if people were forced to work under horrific conditions that they would eventually rise up and start killing. Conditions improved enough to keep people happy and keep the revolution a distant idea. This still holds true today, 90% of the population make enough to just survive on a daily basis. The artificial need created by the culture industry keeps you consuming, keeps you working for whatever they will give you. Fucking sheep.

I agree, I would like to know what he ripped off from someone else.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 5 2003, 04:34 PM

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 5 2003, 06:59 PM
I am supposed to believe that most of the people in this thread have read Marx and understand it? right.
I was forced to....right
;-))

wanna swap some notes on Der Kapital and Manifesto?

"Prizrak brodit po Evrope, Prizrak Kommunizma"
;-))))

[Winetalk.com]

Labret, Marx failed in his economical predictions of how Socialism would work
;-)))

[Nickatilynx]

""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 04:40 PM
""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))
So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 5 2003, 05:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 5 2003, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 04:40 PM
""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))
So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:[/b][/quote]
as logical as it can get.

the problem with america is definitely americans.

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/rebel.gif>

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Nov 5 2003, 05:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Nov 5 2003, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 05:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 04:40 PM
""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))
So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:
as logical as it can get.

the problem with america is definitely americans.

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/rebel.gif>[/b][/quote]
And yes, the problem with Australia is Australians.

:stout:

Cheers!

[Fletch XXX]

heheh cheers.

another problem with america is the fucking beer.

look what my girl picked up the other day.

fucking LOW CARB ROLLING ROCK, can you believe this shit?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/lowcarb.jpg border="1">

i had a sip the other day and damn near spit it out.

hahaha

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 05:54 PM
heheh cheers.

another problem with america is the fucking beer.

look what my girl picked up the other day.

fucking LOW CARB ROLLING ROCK, can you believe this shit?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/lowcarb.jpg border="1">

i had a sip the other day and damn near spit it out.

hahaha
I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 05:57 PM
I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:
I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 05:57 PM
I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:
I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh[/b][/quote]
When's Mardi Gras?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 5 2003, 06:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 5 2003, 06:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 05:57 PM
I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:
I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh
When's Mardi Gras?[/b][/quote]
http://www.mardigras.com/

if you seriously want to go.

My barowner buddy will let you crash at his pad in the heart of New Orleans, walking distance to his bar and many more hehehe.

Mardi Gras Day Feb. 24, 2004

drinking in nola is super cheap, and you wont need to find a place to crash.

:rokk:

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Nov 5 2003, 06:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Nov 5 2003, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by -Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 05:57 PM
I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:
I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh
When's Mardi Gras?
http://www.mardigras.com/

if you seriously want to go.

My barowner buddy will let you crash at his pad in the heart of New Orleans, walking distance to his bar and many more hehehe.

Mardi Gras Day Feb. 24, 2004

drinking in nola is super cheap, and you wont need to find a place to crash.

:rokk:[/b][/quote]
Have always wanted to go but doubt I'll be able to make it for 2004. Damn!

It's mainly a money issue but timing is also a factor.

Maybe I'll pencil it in for 2005 and try and get there... things like this need planning.

:hic:

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 06:18 PM

Have always wanted to go but doubt I'll be able to make it for 2004. Damn!

It's mainly a money issue but timing is also a factor.

Maybe I'll pencil it in for 2005 and try and get there... things like this need planning.

:hic:
trust me, I know the feeling.

going to another country to drink and do drugs aint cheap.

hehehe

:awinky:

[cherrylula]

Mardi Gras, words just can't quite describe it. :lol:

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:19 PM
trust me, I know the feeling.

going to another country to drink and do drugs aint cheap.

hehehe

:awinky:
Come amsterdam. It'll be worth it. Bitch.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather+Nov 5 2003, 06:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TeenGodFather @ Nov 5 2003, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:19 PM
trust me, I know the feeling.

going to another country to drink and do drugs aint cheap.

hehehe

:awinky:
Come amsterdam. It'll be worth it. Bitch.[/b][/quote]
$2866 Adult x 2
$5733 Total (USD)

Depart 8:00 am Tue., Dec. 30 Los Angeles (LAX)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 7:30 am Wed., Dec. 31 Amsterdam (AMS)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 14 hr 30 min

Return 12:30 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Amsterdam (AMS)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 8:17 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Los Angeles (LAX)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 16 hr 47 min

fucking cheaptickets.com aint cheap

hahaha

:ph34r:

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:57 PM
$2866 Adult x 2
$5733 Total (USD)

Depart 8:00 am Tue., Dec. 30 Los Angeles (LAX)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 7:30 am Wed., Dec. 31 Amsterdam (AMS)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 14 hr 30 min

Return 12:30 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Amsterdam (AMS)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 8:17 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Los Angeles (LAX)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 16 hr 47 min

fucking cheaptickets.com aint cheap

hahaha

:ph34r:
Damn. That's even more expensive than my flight to Florida.. although I didn't have to fly over the continental US.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 5 2003, 08:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 5 2003, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 04:40 PM
""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))
So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:[/b][/quote]
North America or South America?
;-)))

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather+Nov 5 2003, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TeenGodFather @ Nov 5 2003, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:57 PM
$2866 Adult x 2
$5733 Total (USD)

Depart 8:00 am Tue., Dec. 30 Los Angeles (LAX)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 7:30 am Wed., Dec. 31 Amsterdam (AMS)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 14 hr 30 min

Return 12:30 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Amsterdam (AMS)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 8:17 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Los Angeles (LAX)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 16 hr 47 min

fucking cheaptickets.com aint cheap

hahaha

:ph34r:
Damn. That's even more expensive than my flight to Florida.. although I didn't have to fly over the continental US.[/b][/quote]
Flying out of LA simply costs more.

One of the bad things about LA.

If I had more time maybe, but crunching it in like this, and trying to make Vegas as well as Mardi Gras is simply too much.

fuck it, next year.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Nov 5 2003, 09:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Nov 5 2003, 09:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -TeenGodFather@Nov 5 2003, 06:46 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:19 PM
trust me, I know the feeling.

going to another country to drink and do drugs aint cheap.

hehehe

:awinky:
Come amsterdam. It'll be worth it. Bitch.
$2866 Adult x 2
$5733 Total (USD)

Depart 8:00 am Tue., Dec. 30 Los Angeles (LAX)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 7:30 am Wed., Dec. 31 Amsterdam (AMS)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 14 hr 30 min

Return 12:30 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Amsterdam (AMS)
United Airlines Inc

Arrive 8:17 pm Fri., Jan. 2 Los Angeles (LAX)
Stops: 1 Travel Time: 16 hr 47 min

fucking cheaptickets.com aint cheap

hahaha

:ph34r:[/b][/quote]
hmmmm...you rich kids...
we fly to Amsterdam for $1094, Business Class

http://www.martinair.com

it's tough to be poor
;-)))

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 06:57 PM

$2866 Adult x 2
$5733 Total (USD)


Holy shit, thats sick. I got tickets for 900 round trip. And those were the spendy ones. If I wanted to layover in England it would have been a couple hundred cheaper.

[Fletch XXX]

tell me about it, thats like 6 months of rent.

hahaha



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 5 2003, 07:23 PM

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 07:23 PM
tell me about it, thats like 6 months of rent.

hahaha
My return ticket from here cost me AUD$1900 which is about USD$1400... and you can't get much further away from Amsterdam than Australia.

That's a shame about the price, man. I guess Xmas/New Years is busy as hell.

I'll be in Amsterdam for next New Years Eve anyway... so it's all good.

:yowsa:



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Nov 5 2003, 08:28 PM

[Winetalk.com]

from Marx to Amsterdam pot and hookers...
I see a perfect logic
;-)))

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 5 2003, 09:18 PM
from Marx to Amsterdam pot and hookers...
I see a perfect logic
;-)))
So you coming for New Years Serge?

I'll buy you a beer, joint and a hooker.

No doubt you've already got your own Communist Manifesto.

[[Labret]]

Ohhh the volume of hash and quality marijuana I plan on consuming in a 3 week period is going to leave a deep scar.

Maybe find some eastern european whores to take pictures of me getting spanked in front of the anne frank house on christmas day.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 05:54 PM
heheh cheers.

another problem with america is the fucking beer.

look what my girl picked up the other day.

fucking LOW CARB ROLLING ROCK, can you believe this shit?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/lowcarb.jpg border="1">

i had a sip the other day and damn near spit it out.

hahaha
So how does it taste? I love Rolling Rock.

edit, nevermind, I see the spit it out part now.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 5 2003, 09:31 PM

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Nov 5 2003, 09:28 PM
Ohhh the volume of hash and quality marijuana I plan on consuming in a 3 week period is going to leave a deep scar.

Maybe find some eastern european whores to take pictures of me getting spanked in front of the anne frank house on christmas day.
Don't forget the space cake!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 6 2003, 12:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 6 2003, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 5 2003, 09:18 PM
from Marx to Amsterdam pot and hookers...
I see a perfect logic
;-)))
So you coming for New Years Serge?

I'll buy you a beer, joint and a hooker.

No doubt you've already got your own Communist Manifesto.[/b][/quote]
hahahahahah,
thanks, but no thanks!

I enjoy the cities much more AFTER webmasters are gone...not my kind of a crowd,
I deal with webmasters when I work, I don't need to socialize with them on my vacations
;-))))

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Nov 5 2003, 09:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Nov 5 2003, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 5 2003, 09:28 PM
Ohhh the volume of hash and quality marijuana I plan on consuming in a 3 week period is going to leave a deep scar.

Maybe find some eastern european whores to take pictures of me getting spanked in front of the anne frank house on christmas day.
Don't forget the space cake![/b][/quote]

I have no idea what that is but I like sound of it. :)

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Nov 5 2003, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Nov 5 2003, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Nov 6 2003, 12:26 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Nov 5 2003, 09:18 PM
from Marx to Amsterdam pot and hookers...
I see a perfect logic
;-)))
So you coming for New Years Serge?

I'll buy you a beer, joint and a hooker.

No doubt you've already got your own Communist Manifesto.
hahahahahah,
thanks, but no thanks!

I enjoy the cities much more AFTER webmasters are gone...not my kind of a crowd,
I deal with webmasters when I work, I don't need to socialize with them on my vacations
;-))))[/b][/quote]
Yes, but this isn't your ordinary every day webmaster crowd.

So far we have me, Labret, quiet, Teen Godfather, Equinox and Battus.

A very select group of freaks.

[Nickatilynx]

I deal with webmasters when I work, I don't need to socialize with them on my vacations


Thats a pearl! :-)))

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 5 2003, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 5 2003, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 09:34 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--[Labret]@Nov 5 2003, 09:28 PM
Ohhh the volume of hash and quality marijuana I plan on consuming in a 3 week period is going to leave a deep scar.

Maybe find some eastern european whores to take pictures of me getting spanked in front of the anne frank house on christmas day.
Don't forget the space cake!

I have no idea what that is but I like sound of it. :)[/b][/quote]
Just cake with weed or hash. But if you get space cake made by someone who loves to make space cake, you will get fucked up. Badly.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 09:41 PM
I deal with webmasters when I work, I don't need to socialize with them on my vacations


Thats a pearl! :-)))

Because Serge says he "works"?

[Nickatilynx]

LOL , very good point [labret] .

So you DO work ,Serge? ;-)))

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 09:42 PM

Just cake with weed or hash. But if you get space cake made by someone who loves to make space cake, you will get fucked up. Badly.

God bless the Dutch.

So I can just carry my space cakes with me into museums and eat lunch while I whack my pud to the dutch masters?

Fuck me, its like a kid waiting for christmas. Time just slows down. I havent looked so forward to a vacation so much in my life.

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 5 2003, 09:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 5 2003, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 09:42 PM

Just cake with weed or hash. But if you get space cake made by someone who loves to make space cake, you will get fucked up. Badly.

God bless the Dutch.

So I can just carry my space cakes with me into museums and eat lunch while I whack my pud to the dutch masters?

Fuck me, its like a kid waiting for christmas. Time just slows down. I havent looked so forward to a vacation so much in my life.[/b][/quote]
Amsterdam is my second home. I've spent over three months there already and this will be my fifth New Years. There's nothing quite like it anywhere else in the world. It's like a theme park for men.

Don't forget that if you go to the movies there you can buy bottles of Grolsch at the Candy Bar and drink em during the film. That is, of course, after your joint and space cake at the coffeeshop around the corner.



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Nov 5 2003, 09:58 PM

[cherrylula]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 5 2003, 09:30 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 5 2003, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Nov 5 2003, 05:54 PM
heheh cheers.

another problem with america is the fucking beer.

look what my girl picked up the other day.

fucking LOW CARB ROLLING ROCK, can you believe this shit?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/lowcarb.jpg border="1">

i had a sip the other day and damn near spit it out.

hahaha
So how does it taste? I love Rolling Rock.

edit, nevermind, I see the spit it out part now.[/b][/quote]
The punk bitch is outside drinking the rest of them with a friend of ours hahaha

[Fletch XXX]

:stout:

[TeenGodFather]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Nov 5 2003, 09:56 PM
There's nothing quite like it anywhere else in the world. It's like a theme park for men..
Ahahaha :rokk:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Nov 6 2003, 12:40 AM

Yes, but this isn't your ordinary every day webmaster crowd.

So far we have me, Labret, quiet, Teen Godfather, Equinox and Battus.

A very select group of freaks.
and what exactly makes this group special???

and this is not a loaded question...yet
;-)))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 6 2003, 12:45 AM
LOL , very good point [labret] .

So you DO work ,Serge? ;-)))
of course I DO work....answering grogan's PM's is WORK,
it's NOT an adventure
;-))))

off topic,
did you notice that not ALL GFYers are created equal?

I don't see anybody turning "Amsterdam Special Group" into a punching bags like we do with other GFYers who "blessed" Oprano waters
;-))

[Trev]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 6 2003, 02:12 PM
I don't see anybody turning "Amsterdam Special Group" into a punching bags like we do with other GFYers who "blessed" Oprano waters
;-))
Same shit, different crowd.

[XXXPhoto]

Serge,

None of them have felt the need to take snapshots of their wallets
or fake Mensa memberships...

TGF did post a pic of his car, but since he was in it and Groan shot
two behind a fence I'm more inclined to believe TGF actually owns
the vehicle he posted...

TGF also posted about bad heart and affinity for bit of bud while Groan
weaved tales of the monster living in his pants and quiff he bangs...
who is easier to believe?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 6 2003, 12:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 6 2003, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Nov 5 2003, 09:41 PM
I deal with webmasters when I work, I don't need to socialize with them on my vacations


Thats a pearl! :-)))

Because Serge says he "works"?[/b][/quote]
Labret, of course I work....you think interesting people got here by pure accident?

Getting them here and filtering them from MORONS is HARD work...I wish Lensman bans MORE interesting people...and this si what I am working on.
;-))))

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Nov 6 2003, 07:26 AM
Serge,

None of them have felt the need to take snapshots of their wallets
or fake Mensa memberships...

TGF did post a pic of his car, but since he was in it and Groan shot
two behind a fence I'm more inclined to believe TGF actually owns
the vehicle he posted...

TGF also posted about bad heart and affinity for bit of bud while Groan
weaved tales of the monster living in his pants and quiff he bangs...
who is easier to believe?
Mark,
this is not just a matter of "posessions", but rather overall intelligence,
not all GFYers are created equal
;-)))

God Bless
;-)))

[XXXPhoto]

Is not intelligence relative to the company one keeps?

Asuta my friend! :^)

[JR]

to answer the question of which "Marx" made the greatest contribution, i would say that ones ideas were the root cause of the deaths of 10's of millions across Eastern Europe, Asia and Central and South America... and one had a silly TV show that made people laugh.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:21 AM
to answer the question of which "Marx" made the greatest contribution, i would say that ones ideas were the root cause of the deaths of 10's of millions across Eastern Europe, Asia and Central and South America... and one had a silly TV show that made people laugh.
One could say the same thing about Jesus. But it would be absurd to say Jesus was the root of the problem yes?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 6 2003, 11:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 6 2003, 11:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:21 AM
to answer the question of which "Marx" made the greatest contribution, i would say that ones ideas were the root cause of the deaths of 10's of millions across Eastern Europe, Asia and Central and South America... and one had a silly TV show that made people laugh.
One could say the same thing about Jesus. But it would be absurd to say Jesus was the root of the problem yes?[/b][/quote]
of course...because Jesus never existed, Karl Marx is another story.

[JR]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 6 2003, 08:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 6 2003, 08:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:21 AM
to answer the question of which "Marx" made the greatest contribution, i would say that ones ideas were the root cause of the deaths of 10's of millions across Eastern Europe, Asia and Central and South America... and one had a silly TV show that made people laugh.
One could say the same thing about Jesus. But it would be absurd to say Jesus was the root of the problem yes?[/b][/quote]
what would absurd about pointing out the 100's of millions of men, women and children slaughtered in the name of religion and peace and love and happiness. its a matter of historical fact.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:36 AM

what would absurd about pointing out the 100's of millions of men, women and children slaughtered in the name of religion and peace and love and happiness. its a matter of historical fact.


Who said it would be absurd to say that people were slaughtered in the name of God?

All I said was its absurd to blame it on Jesus. Just as absurd as blaming Marx for Stalin's transgression.

If I took something you said, twisted it around and used it as justification for chopping up your family with a hatchet, is it my fault or your fault?



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 6 2003, 09:07 AM

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 6 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 6 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:36 AM

what would absurd about pointing out the 100's of millions of men, women and children slaughtered in the name of religion and peace and love and happiness. its a matter of historical fact.


Who said it would be absurd to say that people were slaughtered in the name of God?

All I said was its absurd to blame it on Jesus. Just as absurd as blaming Marx for Stalin's transgression.

If I took something you said, twisted it around and used it as justification for chopping up your family with a hatchet, is it my fault or your fault?[/b][/quote]
YOU sir, must contact me. 3522039.

[JR]

Originally posted by [Labret]+Nov 6 2003, 09:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ([Labret] @ Nov 6 2003, 09:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:36 AM

what would absurd about pointing out the 100's of millions of men, women and children slaughtered in the name of religion and peace and love and happiness. its a matter of historical fact.


Who said it would be absurd to say that people were slaughtered in the name of God?

All I said was its absurd to blame it on Jesus. Just as absurd as blaming Marx for Stalin's transgression.

If I took something you said, twisted it around and used it as justification for chopping up your family with a hatchet, is it my fault or your fault?[/b][/quote]
"right" or "wrong" is primarily determined by the number of those who believe. the more people that believe in an idea, the more "right" it usually becomes.

If you as an individual comitted an act of murder by twisting my words around, then you would be wrong simply because there would be no safety in numbers.

If you were skilled enough to get 1,000,000 people to slaughter another 100,000,000.... you would have a chair at the UN and most likely, on the Security Council.

[Vick]

and now you know why I am a Marxist ........
of the Groucho variety :groucho:

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by JR+Nov 6 2003, 09:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Nov 6 2003, 09:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -[Labret]@Nov 6 2003, 09:06 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--JR@Nov 6 2003, 08:36 AM

what would absurd about pointing out the 100's of millions of men, women and children slaughtered in the name of religion and peace and love and happiness. its a matter of historical fact.


Who said it would be absurd to say that people were slaughtered in the name of God?

All I said was its absurd to blame it on Jesus. Just as absurd as blaming Marx for Stalin's transgression.

If I took something you said, twisted it around and used it as justification for chopping up your family with a hatchet, is it my fault or your fault?
"right" or "wrong" is primarily determined by the number of those who believe. the more people that believe in an idea, the more "right" it usually becomes.

If you as an individual comitted an act of murder by twisting my words around, then you would be wrong simply because there would be no safety in numbers.

If you were skilled enough to get 1,000,000 people to slaughter another 100,000,000.... you would have a chair at the UN and most likely, on the Security Council.[/b][/quote]

That is not an answer. If the question would have been, "Were the crusades right or wrong", perhaps. Were the crusades Jesus fault? Absurd. It is more Paul's fault for spreading the semite disease into the diaspora in the first place. But I digress...

So following your logic, if I can gather up some followers to help me kill and rape children, using your words as justification, it then becomes your fault?

LadyM, at school and dont have icq on my laptop. Will be back home in a few hours.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 6 2003, 12:27 PM
and now you know why I am a Marxist ........
of the Groucho variety :groucho:
Harpo = Trotsky?

[Vick]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Nov 6 2003, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Nov 6 2003, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Nov 6 2003, 12:27 PM
and now you know why I am a Marxist ........
of the Groucho variety :groucho:
Harpo = Trotsky?[/b][/quote]
While Lennon read a book on Marx :awinky:
The quartet practiced in the park

[PornoDoggy]

I'll be back later.

I've got to turn off the lights and sing dirges.

[Vick]

With all the Marxist talk I wanted to bump this :groucho: