Grogan - interesting psychological study

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Guys, I have a stupid suggestion....

beating Grogan of today into a pulp is a piece of cake...ANYBODY can do it, even GFYers can do it.

Wouldn't it be much more interesting and challenging to take the TYPICAL newb and form him into an Opranoid? THAT's would be something!

Is anybody besides me up to it,
or would you rather follow the old Roman path of
"Bread and Entertaintment"?

just curious...

[Vick]

Serge - I'm keeping my claws in (little hard considering some of the statements made)

I'm handing out rope in the women smarter thread :awinky:

What's done with it is another story :unsure:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Vick@Oct 30 2003, 07:35 AM
Serge - I'm keeping my claws in (little hard considering some of the statements made)

I'm handing out rope in the women smarter thread :awinky:

What's done with it is another story :unsure:
Vick, I see what you do, and YOU inspired me with this idea
;-)))

[Trev]

I say give it a try...

but you've got to get it into his head that he needs to change and not everyone else!


I don't envy anyone in that undertaking

[sarettah]

Damn, hit me with the hard decisions first thing in the morning.....

:yowsa:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Trev@Oct 30 2003, 08:00 AM
I say give it a try...

but you've got to get it into his head that he needs to change and not everyone else!


I don't envy anyone in that undertaking
Grogan,
Trev has a VERY good suggestion....change your "shtick" and routine,
the present doesn't and would never work here.

it's doable, good luck and as a starting point I suggest:
START ASKING QUESTIONS

[Vick]

Serge - do you think it's doable?
Thinking that you do, if so just for fun would you like to make the customary wager?
You set the criteria and I'll pick a side?

If nothing else the kid's getting a lot of play here

is it true the only bad press is no press?

[voodooman]

Serge,

I look at it like this.

Don't waste your time trying to teach a pig to sing. Its a
waste of your time, and it will just annoy the pig.


:awinky:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 30 2003, 07:24 AM
Guys, I have a stupid suggestion....

beating Grogan of today into a pulp is a piece of cake...ANYBODY can do it, even GFYers can do it.

Wouldn't it be much more interesting and challenging to take the TYPICAL newb and form him into an Opranoid? THAT's would be something!

Is anybody besides me up to it,
or would you rather follow the old Roman path of
"Bread and Entertaintment"?

just curious...
For my 2 cents worth on this....why dont we help out someone that is actually looking for help?
This guy thinks hes a millionare and a playa playa. I nominate cockgobblin Brand0n at least he dont gots that stench of arrogance on him.

[voodooman]

I think Juicy was working out just fine here, why can't we just
stick with him instead of trying to shape a moron.

I know it would be much more rewarding to take a moron
and shape him up to be a fine, upstanding citizen here
at Oprano, but lets face it, some kids cannot be persuaded
to change their evil ways.

[Peaches]

Look, if the group as a whole plans on shaping up a 20 year old moron, I vote we work on the one living in my basement. :okthumb:

[kath]

Originally posted by Peaches@Oct 30 2003, 07:04 AM
Look, if the group as a whole plans on shaping up a 20 year old moron, I vote we work on the one living in my basement. :okthumb:
Sounds like a plan - I mean at least the one in your basement has the benefit of someone knocking him upside the head in person when need be. :yowsa:

....and the one in your basement at least seems to have some respect for women - he may be a little "rough around the edges" Peaches, but you've done a good job, he's no Grogan. :awinky:

[brand0n]

so grogan how do you feel about being a pet?

thats a good groggie, mere boy!

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Originally posted by gonzo+Oct 30 2003, 09:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Oct 30 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Oct 30 2003, 07:24 AM
Guys, I have a stupid suggestion....

beating Grogan of today into a pulp is a piece of cake...ANYBODY can do it, even GFYers can do it.

Wouldn't it be much more interesting and challenging to take the TYPICAL newb and form him into an Opranoid? THAT's would be something!

Is anybody besides me up to it,
or would you rather follow the old Roman path of
"Bread and Entertaintment"?

just curious...
For my 2 cents worth on this....why dont we help out someone that is actually looking for help?
This guy thinks hes a millionare and a playa playa. I nominate cockgobblin Brand0n at least he dont gots that stench of arrogance on him.[/b][/quote]
I disagree.....brand0n is MORON with no hope...grogan HAS hope,
and if nobody joins me, I'll coach him myself just to show the point that he has MUCH better potential than brand0n..
;-)))

[brand0n]

serge you are sayin im a bigger moron the grogan? boy o boy do you have your wires crossed

but hey, if you want to take groggie and make him into another dildo or bozo (whats the guys name? fat dude in the mink coat?) go right ahead

like i said, im sure he will make a great pet, now.. just one time grogan. lets hear you baaaaaaaa like the sheep you are

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Originally posted by brand0n@Oct 30 2003, 10:54 AM
serge you are sayin im a bigger moron the grogan? boy o boy do you have your wires crossed

but hey, if you want to take groggie and make him into another dildo or bozo (whats the guys name? fat dude in the mink coat?) go right ahead

like i said, im sure he will make a great pet, now.. just one time grogan. lets hear you baaaaaaaa like the sheep you are
thank you for making my point stronger
;-))

[brand0n]

anything for you, you mean old russian bastard

[Peaches]

Originally posted by brand0n@Oct 30 2003, 11:57 AM
anything for you, you mean old russian bastard
Flattery will get you nowhere with Serge. B)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 30 2003, 10:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 30 2003, 10:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -gonzo@Oct 30 2003, 09:20 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Oct 30 2003, 07:24 AM
Guys, I have a stupid suggestion....

beating Grogan of today into a pulp is a piece of cake...ANYBODY can do it, even GFYers can do it.

Wouldn't it be much more interesting and challenging to take the TYPICAL newb and form him into an Opranoid? THAT's would be something!

Is anybody besides me up to it,
or would you rather follow the old Roman path of
"Bread and Entertaintment"?

just curious...
For my 2 cents worth on this....why dont we help out someone that is actually looking for help?
This guy thinks hes a millionare and a playa playa. I nominate cockgobblin Brand0n at least he dont gots that stench of arrogance on him.
I disagree.....brand0n is MORON with no hope...grogan HAS hope,
and if nobody joins me, I'll coach him myself just to show the point that he has MUCH better potential than brand0n..
;-)))[/b][/quote]
You were right Serge...I stand corrected.
I can put a pin on my nose around Grogan.
And a prtective cup around the cockgobblin.

[Cassie]

no no no no no no no

he is the brightest and most successful of his generation which means he cant loose and cant make any mistakes.

so when the walls come tumbling down, i (like others i am sure), will be there to rub the salt in the wounds deeper then anyone else. if he were a different personality and was actually kidding, i would have felt sorry for him for that brief second (i give everyone a second of compassion) when he came tumbling down the mountain. being that he has such an ego trip, i cant wait to pounce on this one (especially since i am inferior to him being that i am a woman). i treasure moments of someones failure when they are so grandious in their manner. i actually look forward to the day and have that taste only a hunter has when coveting its prey.

i was being easy last night and maybe i was that way because it was getting late but today is a new day and as i sit here with my coffee, i am just watching and waiting for out new little boy to make his next mistake.

i hope he pays attention to what lurks in the shadows for the mob is getting restless.

you should take free advice when given gro; i can guarantee you the advice giving is over! at 20, youre still wetting the bed (figuratively).

peace and love to you dear young and so unwise one :awinky: :inlove:

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Originally posted by Peaches+Oct 30 2003, 11:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Oct 30 2003, 11:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--brand0n@Oct 30 2003, 11:57 AM
anything for you, you mean old russian bastard
Flattery will get you nowhere with Serge. B)[/b][/quote]
hahahahahahahahahhaah
;-)))))))

[photogregg]

Hmmm,
Probably better to send him to Toms Newbie Booster where real help is given to folks that ask for it.

Haven't seen anyone help anyone on this board, just bragging about being a player or used-to-be-player and putting down those that weren't around the biz in 1996.

I do enjoy a good soap opera though so Oprano is worth a few minutes a day of laughs

[Carrie]

Originally posted by photogregg@Oct 30 2003, 11:17 AM
Haven't seen anyone help anyone on this board, just bragging about being a player or used-to-be-player and putting down those that weren't around the biz in 1996.

Just because we don't do step-by-step "Instructions For Dummies" doesn't mean we don't share things and help people around here.

If you're looking for something like this...
1. Open up your ftp editor
2. Pick the file you want to upload
3. Press the "-->" button to upload it

Then you're right, we don't help anyone.

However, if you're looking for things that will enlighten you and help you succeed, then just scan the threads and pick any one that doesn't have to do with Groggy.

[brand0n]

Originally posted by Carrie+Oct 30 2003, 08:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carrie @ Oct 30 2003, 08:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--photogregg@Oct 30 2003, 11:17 AM
Haven't seen anyone help anyone on this board, just bragging about being a player or used-to-be-player and putting down those that weren't around the biz in 1996.

Just because we don't do step-by-step "Instructions For Dummies" doesn't mean we don't share things and help people around here.

If you're looking for something like this...
1. Open up your ftp editor
2. Pick the file you want to upload
3. Press the "-->" button to upload it

Then you're right, we don't help anyone.

However, if you're looking for things that will enlighten you and help you succeed, then just scan the threads and pick any one that doesn't have to do with Groggy.[/b][/quote]
carrie do you hate all men?

[Monk]

Just found this picture of Grogan debating what he should do next...






http://www.zoobsworld.com/media/3/media_2987.JPG



Last edited by Monk at Oct 30 2003, 11:39 AM

[PornoDoggy]

What can anyone possibly offer one of the brightest and most successful young people of his generation?

[Bex]

Although helping to mold someone into something or someone that is better than they are, remember that time is a valuable thing, not to be wasted.

Definately don't want to tell you how to spend your time serge! Just think about those words (you likely have already)
I guess everyone looks at recreation differently. :)

[Toolz]

You know what Bex,

I met you when you and I were both in our younger days, do you ever remember being like this? Because if we were I could have really used a bitch slappin.

[spazlabz]

Would he even accept your advice Serge? I doudt it. This guy thinks he is on top of the world and a master of his game. What could he possibly glean from you? I think it would be a wasted effort, a zebra can't changes its stripes and everything is black and white with Mr. Sensitive. The first tme you correct him he will think your stupid.

spaz

[Trev]

Originally posted by Toolz@Oct 30 2003, 07:25 PM
You know what Bex,

I met you when you and I were both in our younger days, do you ever remember being like this? Because if we were I could have really used a bitch slappin.
I asked my wife whom I've been with since I was 17, was I like that when I was 20?

She just looked at me and said "Babe if you were like that when you were 20 you still be single, you'd jack off to porn in the dark and have black eyes from being hit a lot"

Well I'm not single and I don't have a black eyes.

[sarettah]

Originally posted by photogregg@Oct 30 2003, 11:17 AM
Haven't seen anyone help anyone on this board, just bragging about being a player or used-to-be-player and putting down those that weren't around the biz in 1996.

:blink:

I must not read the same threads as you do...........

[Vick]

spaz - in this situation offering advice isn't the method
It's asking questions, looking at information and asking more questions (to lead to a favorable conclusion)

and now if grogan is half as smart as he thinks, he can first pat himself on the back for getting us all to discuss him

and in 3(-6) months (or less) can capitalize on it

[Bex]

Originally posted by Toolz@Oct 30 2003, 09:25 AM
You know what Bex,

I met you when you and I were both in our younger days, do you ever remember being like this? Because if we were I could have really used a bitch slappin.
Toolz my man ... could not agree more. IF we were like that we did need a good bitch slap LOL. Although I have no idea how we would have tollerated each other if we did act like that. I am sure we were a bit more cocky then, but nothing bordering on that. :groucho:

Trev ... I think your wife is on to something there, and my wife would likely agree in my case. :okthumb:

[grogan]

Thanks Serge.

Please don't call me a "newb" though, some people would think it's accurate. :awinky: :inlove:

[voodooman]

Originally posted by grogan@Oct 30 2003, 01:42 PM
Thanks Serge.

Please don't call me a "newb" though, some people would think it's accurate. :awinky: :inlove:
Yeah, that's what I hear. Mostly from you though.

:okthumb:

[Peaches]

Originally posted by voodooman+Oct 30 2003, 03:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (voodooman @ Oct 30 2003, 03:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--grogan@Oct 30 2003, 01:42 PM
Thanks Serge.

Please don't call me a "newb" though, some people would think it's accurate. :awinky: :inlove:
Yeah, that's what I hear. Mostly from you though.

:okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Has ANYONE we know stood up for this guy? :unsure:

[Bex]

Originally posted by Vick@Oct 30 2003, 10:00 AM
and now if grogan is half as smart as he thinks, he can first pat himself on the back for getting us all to discuss him

and in 3(-6) months (or less) can capitalize on it
THAT is what he should be commended for. Grogan has got a lot of people to see who he is. But for the most part people are thinking that he is a total ass clown. BUT, an assclown with some recognition now.
It is what he does now with his minutes of fame that is important.

It SEEMS as though he has not brought his GFY mud slinging style with him to Oprano, and if that is the case then bravo. Getting down to business might turn some heads, and gain some much needed respect from peers.

Time will tell I guess.

[spazlabz]

Originally posted by Bex+Oct 30 2003, 12:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bex @ Oct 30 2003, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Oct 30 2003, 10:00 AM
and now if grogan is half as smart as he thinks, he can first pat himself on the back for getting us all to discuss him

and in 3(-6) months (or less) can capitalize on it
THAT is what he should be commended for. Grogan has got a lot of people to see who he is. But for the most part people are thinking that he is a total ass clown. BUT, an assclown with some recognition now.
It is what he does now with his minutes of fame that is important.

It SEEMS as though he has not brought his GFY mud slinging style with him to Oprano, and if that is the case then bravo. Getting down to business might turn some heads, and gain some much needed respect from peers.

Time will tell I guess.[/b][/quote]
sounds like there may be some softening out there, and thats good. I don't know if it is pity or just new world order thousand points of light soft heartedness. Either way, threats and shit talking leaves a bad taste in my mouth for a long time. As for me I won't personally fuck with the boy, let him learn or not learn, makes no difference to me.

spaz