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Mike AI
10-14-2003, 04:56 PM
What the hell is going on with this country?
First, when did people who work in Grocery stores unionize? WTF is up with that? Have you ever tried bagging groceries? You have tmake sure you don't smash the bread or crush the eggs or break the glass! Now they are on strike!! What a joke.
Second, in the OSU game, an Ohio State player chocked the oposing QB by the throat. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1636877 I saw the replay of it, this punk should not only be suspended from the team, but he should have criminal charges brought against him. IT was all documented on TV!!
Finally, another punk from Nebraska completely cold cocked some kid who was celebrating his teams victory. Here is a guy in full uniform including helmet, just randoming jacking some college kid in the head. KNocked him out. What a pussy he is. Here is the article. You have to watch the video!
http://www.wftv.com/sports/2552858/detail.html
He is another punk who deserved JAIL TIME!!! He should be suspended from the team.
I see these things and shake my head. What has happened to sportmanship?
Sorry for the rant... hand to get this off my chest! :D
gregtx
10-14-2003, 05:05 PM
yup.. just like the fights that broke out in the red sox/ yankees games...
how many kids are watching thier "heros" (loose term) start a fist fight over a game...
great way to portray good sportmanship and the piss poor consequences of their actions...
btw.. how bout dem Texas Tech Red Raiders.. bustin in to the top 25... woo hoo!!!
ok.. back to work :D
Last edited by gregtx at Oct 14 2003, 01:14 PM
Sharpie
10-14-2003, 05:44 PM
Just like most other things nowdays..... lack of RESPECT. People, possessions, attitudes.... you name. Win at all costs! Out of control.... much anger management needed :-)
Peaches
10-14-2003, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 14 2003, 05:04 PM
What the hell is going on with this country?
First, when did people who work in Grocery stores unionize? WTF is up with that? Have you ever tried bagging groceries? You have tmake sure you don't smash the bread or crush the eggs or break the glass! Now they are on strike!! What a joke.
Grocery stores have been unionized for at least 24 years - I know because that's when worked for one and it was the one and only time I've ever been a member of a union. :P
When Publix opened in Atlanta, whatever national union the grocery workers are members of picketed all the stores because Publix isn't unionized. Yet Publix wins every "Best of" contest in Atlanta as far as stores and employees. Gee...... B)
MattK
10-14-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 14 2003, 01:04 PM
What the hell is going on with this country?
quote:
Negative social mood is the primary feature of a long-term bear market. This mood will show up in ways you don't expect; it can be the obvious explanation "why" when no one else has even figured out the question.
check out the book:
Socionomics: The Science of History and Social Prediction (http://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/)
sarettah
10-14-2003, 07:06 PM
PORN !!!!
Thats the reason.... PORN is bringing down the moral values...
PORN is wiping out all remnants of civilized behavior left on the planet...
PORN PORN PORN......
or maybe it's just because we have a republican administration....
I always get those two so confused....... :blink:
BradShaw
10-14-2003, 08:16 PM
They should both be suspended. The OSU incident took out Wisconsin starting QB, when the game was in the balance. Thankfully, Wisconsin pulled out the game.
PornoDoggy
10-14-2003, 08:29 PM
Somehow, I have trouble connecting the fact that grocery employees have organized into a collective bargining unit with violence in sports.
:blink:
Mike AI
10-14-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by MattK+Oct 14 2003, 06:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MattK @ Oct 14 2003, 06:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Oct 14 2003, 01:04 PM
What the hell is going on with this country?
quote:
Negative social mood is the primary feature of a long-term bear market. This mood will show up in ways you don't expect; it can be the obvious explanation "why" when no one else has even figured out the question.
check out the book:
Socionomics: The Science of History and Social Prediction (http://www.elliottwave.com/socionomics/)[/b][/quote]
Hmmm but we have been in a Bull market for over a year.....
Mike AI
10-14-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 14 2003, 07:37 PM
Somehow, I have trouble connecting the fact that grocery employees have organized into a collective bargining unit with violence in sports.
:blink:
PD, nothing in common.... just think its kinda silly for unions in groceries.
I am sure you support them, and will not cross the picket line!!
No justice, no fresh fruit!
MattK
10-14-2003, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 14 2003, 05:48 PM
Hmmm but we have been in a Bull market for over a year.....
seemingly yes, but it is most likely a "bear market rally", still a part of
the bigger bear market that started in jan 2000.
sarettah
10-14-2003, 11:09 PM
Back about 10 years ago, the workers at Safeway here went on strike... ended up shutting down all the Safeway's in the area....
They initially had some public support.... Because the original issues raised had to do with some of the more skilled workers such as the butchers (and that is a skill) and the shit pay they were getting...
They pretty much lost the support with a commercial they ran showing a line checker (you know, the girl or guy who runs your stuff over the scanner) complaining about how little she got paid this far into here "career".....
It was quickly beat up by the media and most folk with common sense who pointed out that checkers/baggers and stockboy types were not supposed to be "career" employment but rather high school and part time jobbers...
Mike AI
10-15-2003, 01:51 AM
Look at this bullshit!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1637854
Nebraska Unniversity can suck my balls. The suspend the guy for 1 game, then actually have the nerve to say the player was "defending himself" like he was going to be attacked.
This guy is like 5'10" 210lbs of solid muscle, can bench press around 300lbs, and is in FULL FUCKING ARMOUR including a helmet - that THIS guy was worried that this dorky kid was going to hurt him.
THe guy was not even coming towards, merely past. The football player was pissed his team lost, and wanted to exact some revenge on someone. Take out his frustration. You can see it in the video, he even went moving on, looking around like he was guilty!!
They are passing the buck on this, and blaming the fucking victim!!
Who should I call or write about this? Should we start some kind of online thing on this? SOmeone needs to hold this kid, and the Univeristy responsible!
PornoDoggy
10-15-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Oct 14 2003, 08:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Oct 14 2003, 08:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 14 2003, 07:37 PM
Somehow, I have trouble connecting the fact that grocery employees have organized into a collective bargining unit with violence in sports.
:blink:
PD, nothing in common.... just think its kinda silly for unions in groceries.
I am sure you support them, and will not cross the picket line!!
No justice, no fresh fruit![/b][/quote]
Funny you should mention that ... I have a daughter on strike (actually, she's locked out) in a St. Louis grocery store. She works there part time while going to school.
Mike AI
10-15-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Oct 15 2003, 08:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Oct 15 2003, 08:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Oct 14 2003, 08:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 14 2003, 07:37 PM
Somehow, I have trouble connecting the fact that grocery employees have organized into a collective bargining unit with violence in sports.
:blink:
PD, nothing in common.... just think its kinda silly for unions in groceries.
I am sure you support them, and will not cross the picket line!!
No justice, no fresh fruit!
Funny you should mention that ... I have a daughter on strike (actually, she's locked out) in a St. Louis grocery store. She works there part time while going to school.[/b][/quote]
Why does this not surprise me.
Why don't you tell your daughter if she wants to strike she should get a real job. If I was owner of the store ( well I would not have let unions in), I would bring in a bunch of kids to replace them....
Next we are going to have unions for people who cut the yard, or what about homeless persons union who go on strike unless they get the price for recycled aluminun cans to 10 cents each!!
KevinG
10-15-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by sarettah@Oct 14 2003, 03:14 PM
or maybe it's just because we have a republican administration....
I always get those two so confused....... :blink:
LOL :D
1.) That retard who socked the kid and KO'd him should be brought up on criminal charges. Sportsmanship in todays sports world is in a sad state, these guys need to smarten the fuck up.
2.) Unions are WAY out of control. Hell I can see the need for a union back in say the 20's when working conditions were shitty etc. But now we have health and safety comittees, and other organizations in place to ensure safe working environments etc. It seems as though unions now only protect the dog fuckers of this world, and drive up prices on goods and services unnecessarily.
Oh yeah, and that cubs fan who interfered in the playoff game last night is a moron too!
Just my 2 cents.
Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 15 2003, 06:04 AM
Next we are going to have unions for people who cut the yard,
Hahaha, we do, only ours hold their local meetings at the INS ;)
Toolz
10-15-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by *KK*+Oct 15 2003, 06:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Oct 15 2003, 06:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Oct 15 2003, 06:04 AM
Next we are going to have unions for people who cut the yard,
Hahaha, we do, only ours hold their local meetings at the INS ;)[/b][/quote]
Can you send some of those workers up here the north is desperately in need of that type of union worker KK :)
Originally posted by Toolz+Oct 15 2003, 06:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Toolz @ Oct 15 2003, 06:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -*KK*@Oct 15 2003, 06:47 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Oct 15 2003, 06:04 AM
Next we are going to have unions for people who cut the yard,
Hahaha, we do, only ours hold their local meetings at the INS ;)
Can you send some of those workers up here the north is desperately in need of that type of union worker KK :)[/b][/quote]
Then who would do our yards????
Mike AI
10-15-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Bex@Oct 15 2003, 09:28 AM
1.) That retard who socked the kid and KO'd him should be brought up on criminal charges. Sportsmanship in todays sports world is in a sad state, these guys need to smarten the fuck up.
2.) Unions are WAY out of control. Hell I can see the need for a union back in say the 20's when working conditions were shitty etc. But now we have health and safety comittees, and other organizations in place to ensure safe working environments etc. It seems as though unions now only protect the dog fuckers of this world, and drive up prices on goods and services unnecessarily.
Oh yeah, and that cubs fan who interfered in the playoff game last night is a moron too!
Just my 2 cents.
Bex I like the way you think!
:okthumb:
Kittyfuzz
10-15-2003, 10:53 AM
Can someone tell me why in the hell they didn't call interference when that fan grabbed that ball in the cubs game??????? WTF! I just hope they had some serious security escort that dude to his car after the game. Otherwise sports violence could have had a whole new meaning!
swank
10-15-2003, 11:00 AM
Yea there is strikes going on here in stlouis right now and just not but about a year or 2 ago there was a pretty large union riot that affected alot of stores nationwide as it was with AWG who is a wholesale distributor to alot of large chains. My father is a teamsters union member and was affected by it, the outcome was in our favor.
Gotta love the UNION. :awinky:
ESPN said they didn't call interference cuz the ball wasn't in play
they say it was in the crowd, alou would hve picked it out of the crowd
and they blame that kid
well your cubs suck
didn't the SS have an error
didn't Sammy miss the cut off?
there were 10 hands reaching for that ball
blame one guy
hind sight is 20/20
you tell me you don't reach for a ball coming at you with 2 seconds to think
Originally posted by Mike AI+Oct 15 2003, 06:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Oct 15 2003, 06:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Bex@Oct 15 2003, 09:28 AM
1.) That retard who socked the kid and KO'd him should be brought up on criminal charges. Sportsmanship in todays sports world is in a sad state, these guys need to smarten the fuck up.
2.) Unions are WAY out of control. Hell I can see the need for a union back in say the 20's when working conditions were shitty etc. But now we have health and safety comittees, and other organizations in place to ensure safe working environments etc. It seems as though unions now only protect the dog fuckers of this world, and drive up prices on goods and services unnecessarily.
Oh yeah, and that cubs fan who interfered in the playoff game last night is a moron too!
Just my 2 cents.
Bex I like the way you think!
:okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Hehe ... thanks! You too! :groucho:
Last edited by Bex at Oct 15 2003, 07:12 AM
Toolz
10-15-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by *KK*+Oct 15 2003, 06:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Oct 15 2003, 06:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Toolz@Oct 15 2003, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by -*KK*@Oct 15 2003, 06:47 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Oct 15 2003, 06:04 AM
Next we are going to have unions for people who cut the yard,
Hahaha, we do, only ours hold their local meetings at the INS ;)
Can you send some of those workers up here the north is desperately in need of that type of union worker KK :)
Then who would do our yards????[/b][/quote]
Who's gonna do mine?
That's what I need the workers for, send a team of 12 for a week, they'd accomplish more than 36 regular workers here.
Toolz
10-15-2003, 11:12 AM
Oh yeah and to comment on this Nebraska player, now a couple of Mizzou players look like the saw what happened, why didn't they jump that mofo and beat him down? Yeah he can punch one fan out but what about a mobscene which is what could have happened had anyone been paying attention.
Kittyfuzz
10-15-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Meni@Oct 15 2003, 07:09 AM
ESPN said they didn't call interference cuz the ball wasn't in play
they say it was in the crowd, alou would hve picked it out of the crowd
and they blame that kid
well your cubs suck
didn't the SS have an error
didn't Sammy miss the cut off?
there were 10 hands reaching for that ball
blame one guy
hind sight is 20/20
you tell me you don't reach for a ball coming at you with 2 seconds to think
oh stop looking for someone to get into a pissing contest with, i'm not that type of girl.. I personally am not a cubs fan, but the whole thing was good for humor.. Find someone who will compete...
PornoDoggy
10-15-2003, 11:27 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
ulfie
10-15-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Kittyfuzz@Oct 15 2003, 10:01 AM
Can someone tell me why in the hell they didn't call interference when that fan grabbed that ball in the cubs game??????? WTF! I just hope they had some serious security escort that dude to his car after the game. Otherwise sports violence could have had a whole new meaning!
Just heard on the radio that security did have to escort him out of the stadium. People were throwing beer at him, screaming they were going to kill him, etc.
As far as unions go, don't get me started.
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 09:35 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
PD,
Labor is where I draw the line economically. I am pro union and pro living wage. I don't understand how we as a society are willing to allow people to work for $6/hr when food and clothing and utilities and rent are so expensive. No one can live on that.
The living wage should be at LEAST $25/hr.
PornoDoggy
10-15-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Buff+Oct 15 2003, 11:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Oct 15 2003, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 09:35 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
PD,
Labor is where I draw the line economically. I am pro union and pro living wage. I don't understand how we as a society are willing to allow people to work for $6/hr when food and clothing and utilities and rent are so expensive. No one can live on that.
The living wage should be at LEAST $25/hr.[/b][/quote]
Only if I'm getting $75 an hour ...
Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Oct 15 2003, 10:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Oct 15 2003, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Buff@Oct 15 2003, 11:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 09:35 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
PD,
Labor is where I draw the line economically. I am pro union and pro living wage. I don't understand how we as a society are willing to allow people to work for $6/hr when food and clothing and utilities and rent are so expensive. No one can live on that.
The living wage should be at LEAST $25/hr.
Only if I'm getting $75 an hour ...[/b][/quote]
Why should you get more?
Originally posted by Kittyfuzz+Oct 15 2003, 10:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kittyfuzz @ Oct 15 2003, 10:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Meni@Oct 15 2003, 07:09 AM
ESPN said they didn't call interference cuz the ball wasn't in play
they say it was in the crowd, alou would hve picked it out of the crowd
and they blame that kid
well your cubs suck
didn't the SS have an error
didn't Sammy miss the cut off?
there were 10 hands reaching for that ball
blame one guy
hind sight is 20/20
you tell me you don't reach for a ball coming at you with 2 seconds to think
oh stop looking for someone to get into a pissing contest with, i'm not that type of girl.. I personally am not a cubs fan, but the whole thing was good for humor.. Find someone who will compete...[/b][/quote]
I'm not pissing baby love
just a little aggression on the way to the gym
i'm ok now
thanks
hee hee
Toolz
10-15-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Buff+Oct 15 2003, 08:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Oct 15 2003, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by -Buff@Oct 15 2003, 11:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 09:35 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
PD,
Labor is where I draw the line economically. I am pro union and pro living wage. I don't understand how we as a society are willing to allow people to work for $6/hr when food and clothing and utilities and rent are so expensive. No one can live on that.
The living wage should be at LEAST $25/hr.
Only if I'm getting $75 an hour ...
Why should you get more?[/b][/quote]
What are you advocating Buff? Communism? We all know how well that's worked in other parts of the country.
As long as there are people willing to do jobs others don't want, yard work, drywall, painting, etc, at a lower wage than American laborers the rates are going to stay the same. Read the article in this month's Playboy on WalMart and how they keep their employees down, really amazing article.
Kittyfuzz
10-15-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Meni+Oct 15 2003, 09:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meni @ Oct 15 2003, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Kittyfuzz@Oct 15 2003, 10:29 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Meni@Oct 15 2003, 07:09 AM
ESPN said they didn't call interference cuz the ball wasn't in play
they say it was in the crowd, alou would hve picked it out of the crowd
and they blame that kid
well your cubs suck
didn't the SS have an error
didn't Sammy miss the cut off?
there were 10 hands reaching for that ball
blame one guy
hind sight is 20/20
you tell me you don't reach for a ball coming at you with 2 seconds to think
oh stop looking for someone to get into a pissing contest with, i'm not that type of girl.. I personally am not a cubs fan, but the whole thing was good for humor.. Find someone who will compete...
I'm not pissing baby love
just a little aggression on the way to the gym
i'm ok now
thanks
hee hee[/b][/quote]
Ahhhhh, having an overdose of testosterone :unsure:
Originally posted by Toolz+Oct 15 2003, 11:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Toolz @ Oct 15 2003, 11:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Buff@Oct 15 2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by -PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by -Buff@Oct 15 2003, 11:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 09:35 AM
Mike, she's going to school - she works one day a week at the grocery store (and has two other part-time jobs). She doesn't want to be on strike.
FYI, grocery workers have been organized in many, many places for as long as I can remember. Here in the United States of America they have the right to do that, even if they don't meet the Mike AI skills test.
PD,
Labor is where I draw the line economically. I am pro union and pro living wage. I don't understand how we as a society are willing to allow people to work for $6/hr when food and clothing and utilities and rent are so expensive. No one can live on that.
The living wage should be at LEAST $25/hr.
Only if I'm getting $75 an hour ...
Why should you get more?
What are you advocating Buff? Communism? We all know how well that's worked in other parts of the country.
As long as there are people willing to do jobs others don't want, yard work, drywall, painting, etc, at a lower wage than American laborers the rates are going to stay the same. Read the article in this month's Playboy on WalMart and how they keep their employees down, really amazing article.[/b][/quote]
Toolz... I am trying to bait PD (unsuccessfully, I might add). I don't agree with the existence of any government at all; I absolutely do not support minimum or "living" wages or any of that shit either.
This sucks. I try to bait PD and I hook Toolz instead. Fuck.
Originally posted by Buff@Oct 15 2003, 11:32 AM
Toolz... I am trying to bait PD (unsuccessfully, I might add). I don't agree with the existence of any government at all; I absolutely do not support minimum or "living" wages or any of that shit either.
This sucks. I try to bait PD and I hook Toolz instead. Fuck.
Quick ... throw him back. I don't think Toolz's are in season right now. :awinky:
Toolz
10-15-2003, 03:39 PM
Libertarian Buff? Or is even that too much government?
I don't think quite a few of the government facilities we rely upon could be privatized, specifically police, fire, and rescue.
PornoDoggy
10-15-2003, 03:57 PM
No government at all is not much different from the dictatorship of the proletariat, as far as being possible in the real world ...
Originally posted by Toolz@Oct 15 2003, 01:47 PM
Libertarian Buff? Or is even that too much government?
I don't think quite a few of the government facilities we rely upon could be privatized, specifically police, fire, and rescue.
I am a Might Makes Right Anarchist. I think it should be every man for himself.
Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 15 2003, 02:05 PM
No government at all is not much different from the dictatorship of the proletariat, as far as being possible in the real world ...
Of course it's impossible. So is completely eradicating evil.
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