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deepundercover
09-29-2003, 06:12 PM
From the October issue of Arena magazine:

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=65478...4728eb26b0947ef (http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=6547884cea64550284728eb26b0947ef)

Arena is a classy, UK-based "Style for Men" magazine, kind of a cross between Vanity Fair and Details. In the current (Oct. 2003) issue, it's got 40 pages on porn, entitled "Adult Education: How Pornography is taking over the Mainstream," Arena does a major rundown on the blurred lines between "porn, high fashion and art" and the legacy behind this sprawling, money-magnet beast.

50. James Hundleby
49. Sean Michaels
48. Jason Sechrest
47. Ed Powers
46. Ron Vogel
45. Al Goldstein
44. Michael Ninn
43. Colin Malone
42. Jewel De’Nyle
41. Dick Nasty
40. Christian Mann
39. Earl Miller
38. Nina Hartley
37. Peter North
36. Joey Silvera
35. Candida Royalle
34. Luke Ford
33. Ben Dover
32. Bill Margold
31. Dion Giarrusso
30. Lexington Steele
29. Jim Gunn
28. Ron Jeremy
27. Andrew Blake
26. H Louis Sirkin
25. Russ Hampshire
24. Scott Tucker
23. Suze Randall
22. Gina Lynn
21. Serenity
20. Jacqueline Gold
19. John Stagliano
18. Anna Kieran
17. Jill Kelly
16. Rocco Siffredi
15. David Sullivan
14. Patrick Collins
13. Steve Orenstein
12. Tim Connely
11. Sharon Mitchell
10. Jim South
9. Bob Guccione
8. Jenna Jameson
7. Steve Hirsch
6. Richard Desmond
5. Charles Prast
4. Danni Ashe
3. Paul Raymond
2. Hugh Hefner
1. Larry Flynt

Nickatilynx
09-29-2003, 06:15 PM
34. Luke Ford

ahahahahahahaha

Mike AI
09-29-2003, 06:23 PM
That list is pretty funny....

Thing is its leaving out the REAL players.... Much more $$ made on the net the past 7 years.

BradShaw
09-29-2003, 06:42 PM
Danni Ashe.

HAHA. About sums up the accuracy of that list.

Hooper
09-29-2003, 06:50 PM
yeah, danni ashe and luke ford?

i guess they didnt do their research first :-/

although i do agree with ranking larry flynt #1 (if you're talking about all the flynt companies... video, net, print, casino etc..)

RichC
09-29-2003, 07:00 PM
where's AT&T?

sextoyking
09-29-2003, 07:02 PM
Rich,

No shit and where is GM / Hughes / Dtv and Dish :)

dantheman
09-29-2003, 07:16 PM
AOhelL

:)

Mike AI
09-29-2003, 07:27 PM
Flynt is definately number 1....

As far as AT&T, Dish, etc.... I think the list is for powerful PEOPLE, not companies.

Peaches
09-29-2003, 07:30 PM
Color me dumb, but I can't even seem to find Arena Magazine anywhere on the internet, except one in Australia....am I Googling wrong? I just had to read the other "articles" in it if this is their list of "Porn's Most Powerful", lol! :)

slavdogg
09-29-2003, 07:41 PM
At least Luke FOrd is not above Steve Hirsch and Jenna

Danni Ashe #4 ? LOL thats a joke
i bet she sponsors or helped put the list together

dig420
09-29-2003, 08:29 PM
playa-haters :nyanya:

confucy
09-29-2003, 08:55 PM
Luke, how come you are way down the list at 34?

Don't those writers know you are the voice of porn?

No comments, Hooper. Why don't you go back to GFY and continue to set yourself up with a lawsuit from TNVCASH. :agrin:

Hooper
09-29-2003, 09:14 PM
lawsuit? who?

the day they sue me will be a cold day in hell. they used my studios for half those fuckin videos they're selling.. and they didnt pay me the rent they owed or for the loan i made them.

they'll talk a big talk about suing me.... but in the end, they will NEVER want to end up in court because i'm absolutely right about what i've said. i never said he had underage girls fucking in his videos. i might type fast confucy, but i'm typing the truth.

Hooper
09-29-2003, 09:14 PM
And given that they couldnt make $3000 note, my guess would be that they cant afford a lawyer either.

Jim_Gunn
09-29-2003, 09:45 PM
I've never read Arena magazine to my recollection, but the writer must either be someone I know or a big fan of my movies for me to be number twenty-nine on this list! Guess I have to go to Borders and check out the mag now :P

Mike AI
09-29-2003, 09:59 PM
Jim do not sell yourself short. I have worked with many people from the video side of things, and you are by far one of the classiest - most professional person I have dealt with!

Anyone who needs custom video content done, should see this man!

confucy
09-30-2003, 12:08 AM
Damn! I had this great post and it vanished. Sorry if it pops up after this one. Hooper, I think it is important to warn others about webmasters who are using underage girls, but you are taking a big chance by making those charges on the boards. Everyone is sue crazy...even if you are telling the truth.

I think we should have more lists. How about a list of every porn message board with the names of the biggest posters. Another list giving us the traffic for the top 100 porn websites. A list of the current lawsuits against porn webmasters and current updates every day. A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!! A list of the top 100 richest porn webmasters and the exact amounts they make each month/year. And a list of the porn webmasters with the largest dicks and their exact measurements...for the girls! :wnw:

JR
09-30-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 29 2003, 08:16 PM
A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!!
thats just good entertainment. i like watching him and his brother trying to spin off his nomadic work habits.

Bex
09-30-2003, 10:15 AM
Uh that list seems flawed at best. And who the fuck wants to read a magazine called Arena that deals nothing with hockey anyhow? :biglaugh:

Mike AI
09-30-2003, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by JR+Sep 30 2003, 01:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Sep 30 2003, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Sep 29 2003, 08:16 PM
A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!!
thats just good entertainment. i like watching him and his brother trying to spin off his nomadic work habits.[/b][/quote]


Yeah, I used to just laugh at KB and D$.... I thought they were harmless, and decent guys.

But there is NO doubt in my mind that one or both were involved with trying to use GaryK as a club against me. So they have proven to me once and for all what type of people they are. ( the scary part is that someone as "smart" as Gary was allowed to be used like this)

No need to get into KB and D$s short comings.... this is not the time ( I have some meetings to go to - ironiclly with attorneys), nor the place ( everyone at Oprano knows what a set of boobs these guys really are)

But Karma is a bitch....

:D

gonzo
09-30-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by JR+Sep 29 2003, 10:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Sep 29 2003, 10:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Sep 29 2003, 08:16 PM
A complete list of KB's jobs for the past ten years (just kidding)!!
thats just good entertainment. i like watching him and his brother trying to spin off his nomadic work habits.[/b][/quote]
Lifestyles of the self proclaimed family of porn royalty!

JR
09-30-2003, 11:21 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 11:25 AM
I'm one of the few that admits to liking Luke's writing but I have to ask ...

How is Luke Ford powerful? ScottP made him look like a little bitch.

Who reads what he writes anyway?

gonzo
09-30-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by JR@Sep 30 2003, 07:29 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?

Mike AI
09-30-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by gonzo+Sep 30 2003, 11:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Sep 30 2003, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Sep 30 2003, 07:29 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?[/b][/quote]
Well after yesterday, I will never do business with any company KB is associated with.

I will also advise my friends, and associates to do the same.

Buff
09-30-2003, 03:30 PM
Powerful? Obviously, porn's most powerful man is me, as I could dominate the rest of the list without any serious physical effort.

Mike AI
09-30-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Buff@Sep 30 2003, 02:38 PM
Powerful? Obviously, porn's most powerful man is me, as I could dominate the rest of the list without any serious physical effort.


Welcome back Buff!!

gonzo
09-30-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Sep 30 2003, 10:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Sep 30 2003, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -gonzo@Sep 30 2003, 11:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--JR@Sep 30 2003, 07:29 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?
Well after yesterday, I will never do business with any company KB is associated with.

I will also advise my friends, and associates to do the same.[/b][/quote]
Hell Mike--

I was powering down a few Krispy Kremes last night with a Starbucks mocha "mounds bar" and I got this wild idea.
I figure that Id offer KBizzle...the shizzle of the porn bizzle ... a deal he cant refuse. Ill just offer him half of everything one of my new websites could make. Let him pick the niche and everything!

Using his stellar skills Im sure wed both be rich and he wouldnt have need of a salary.

WHat do you say KB? You could use that CFF line to recruit models.
"Suck my dick bitch...suck my dick!"
Or...."baby you is so fly.....I knows you suck cock like a heroin whore!"

The dude is so diverse....I remmeber how when he was working for Mac And Brumble he was giving us all tips on how to tastefully treat the talent like the ladies they are....and then presto chango....to "Suck My Dick Bitch....Suck MY Dick!"

D$ is right. He should have you working the angles on the Players Ball instead of carrying his gear around at poolside in Florida. The PHB would be dwarfed just by the sheer magnatude!
Theyd be on CNN...HOward Stern Would fly down...hell who knows maybe fittycent would come down and KB could get him to set up a porn site too!

Then hed be in one of those Epassporte ads like Too Short!



Last edited by gonzo at Sep 30 2003, 12:33 PM

Mike AI
09-30-2003, 04:33 PM
Gonzo es en Fuego !!


:devil:

confucy
09-30-2003, 04:53 PM
Colin, don't let that weight loss cloud your vision. Luke has always had a big audience. How can anyone take porn seriously. Sure, many have made millions, but they are few in numbers. ScotPB never got the best of Luke. ScotPB made threats. Big fucking deal. I have been reading about all the fights that will happen in January in Las Vegas. These clowns are all talk. They have small dicks and excessive amounts of testosterone.

Porn boys, grow up and act like men. Take some estrogen. Clear your brains, and check out Luke's writing on http://www.lukeford.net

There is a big archive of his interviews with non-porn producers, directors, writers, and talented people. That is where Luke shines. It doesn't take much for someone to interview a porn actress by the name of Clitty Sally. But try sitting down with legends in the film industry and coming up with material never before reported. That takes talent. :awinky:

DrGuile
09-30-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Bex@Sep 30 2003, 09:23 AM
Uh that list seems flawed at best. And who the fuck wants to read a magazine called Arena that deals nothing with hockey anyhow? :biglaugh:
lol, eh, what did you expect from a UK mag ;)

Those rankings are a little odd to say the least. And actors/actresses are really never that powerful. If its not you, it will be somebody else...



Last edited by DrGuile at Sep 30 2003, 04:15 PM

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Buff@Sep 30 2003, 02:38 PM
Powerful? Obviously, porn's most powerful man is me, as I could dominate the rest of the list without any serious physical effort.
How much are you going to pay Labret? ;-) ;-)

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 04:01 PM
Colin, don't let that weight loss cloud your vision. Luke has always had a big audience. How can anyone take porn seriously. Sure, many have made millions, but they are few in numbers. ScotPB never got the best of Luke. ScotPB made threats. Big fucking deal. I have been reading about all the fights that will happen in January in Las Vegas. These clowns are all talk. They have small dicks and excessive amounts of testosterone.

Porn boys, grow up and act like men. Take some estrogen. Clear your brains, and check out Luke's writing on http://www.lukeford.net

There is a big archive of his interviews with non-porn producers, directors, writers, and talented people. That is where Luke shines. It doesn't take much for someone to interview a porn actress by the name of Clitty Sally. But try sitting down with legends in the film industry and coming up with material never before reported. That takes talent. :awinky:

I already said I like his writing. He's talented. Now what makes him powerful?

Where's the interview with Scott? I remember Luke getting schooled. Period.



Last edited by Colin at Sep 30 2003, 04:23 PM

confucy
09-30-2003, 05:30 PM
I didn't miss your comment about liking his writing.

Which ScottPB interview? The most recent one before DUC moved to Setgo? Or the ones from the past? I like the Aussies' (ScottPB) in your face comments as long as they don't lead to violence.

Why wasn't Persian Kitty on the list? How about Kremen? They have done more for porn than Danni Ashe, Suze Randall, and Hefner. Hefner hasn't done a damn thing in years. He sits around in a rocking chair with nude ladies giving him blowjobs while his staff does all the work. If the names of photographers are going to appear, where is Stephen Hicks?

Lists like this one are for fun. They stimulate conversation and give people a few laughs. :bjump:

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 05:31 PM
With the approach of Oct 1st it is becoming more and more obvious that at this moment the most powerful entity in online porn,at least,is VISA.

If they yell jump,we bitch and whine,but eventually ...we ask "How High".

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 05:35 PM
confucy,

Define "power".

The people you mention have no "power" over me.
An befiore you ask,I define power as:
The ability to exercvise control over others,or influence the actions of others.

No one you mention has that form of "power" over most on this board.

VISA sure as hell does.

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 04:39 PM
With the approach of Oct 1st it is becoming more and more obvious that at this moment the most powerful entity in online porn,at least,is VISA.
Yup. I'm Visa's bitch and admit it.

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 05:53 PM
Nick and Colin's most powerful (porn) list

1. Visa
2. Ashcroft

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 05:54 PM
Yup. I'm Visa's bitch and admit it.

Amen,and I for one love them for it ;)

Nick and Colin's most powerful (porn) list

1. Visa
2. Ashcroft

Good idea...lets make our own list :)

Who is #3?



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 30 2003, 02:05 PM

Almighty Colin
09-30-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 05:02 PM
Yup. I'm Visa's bitch and admit it.

Amen,and I for one love them for it ;)
I remain undecided. ;-)

confucy
09-30-2003, 09:03 PM
Colin, using your description of power, I would say that PK and GK do have a certain amount of POWER. Whether they have power over you is not relevant. They have the power to pick up the phone and call people and get things done. They both have *connections* and they both have made enough money to open many doors.

PK started out in '95 and gradually made Persian Kitty the Yellow Pages of Porn Sites. Gary fought like hell and made major sacrifices and held on to his sex.com, the most recognized porn domain name/website on the internet. Therefore, they have a great deal of power and do influence many porn webmasters.

When two sites are this recognizable, power just naturally follows.

Until you can come up with a list of more powerful people in porn, I suggest you accept my two recommendations and move forward, into the light, my son! :nyanya:

gonzo
09-30-2003, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 05:11 PM
Colin, using your description of power, I would say that PK and GK do have a certain amount of POWER. Whether they have power over you is not relevant. They have the power to pick up the phone and call people and get things done. They both have *connections* and they both have made enough money to open many doors.

PK started out in '95 and gradually made Persian Kitty the Yellow Pages of Porn Sites. Gary fought like hell and made major sacrifices and held on to his sex.com, the most recognized porn domain name/website on the internet. Therefore, they have a great deal of power and do influence many porn webmasters.

When two sites are this recognizable, power just naturally follows.

Until you can come up with a list of more powerful people in porn, I suggest you accept my two recommendations and move forward, into the light, my son! :nyanya:
There's that Lew De Payne connection again.

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 09:22 PM
Colin, using your description of power, I would say that PK and GK do have a certain amount of POWER.Whether they have power over you is not relevant.

errr Colin didn't offer a description of power.

I did though......

If I was more powerful,you'd have noticed,I guess ;)

Or if you would take the bloody tablets LOL



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 30 2003, 05:34 PM

*KK*
09-30-2003, 10:15 PM
Oh wow, what a fun game, can I play?

Here are some definitions I like...

delusional

\De*lu"sion*al\, a. Of or pertaining to delusions; as, delusional monomania.
---------------------------------------------

con·fused ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-fyzd)
adj.
Being unable to think with clarity or act with understanding and intelligence.

Lacking logical order or sense: a confused set of instructions.
Chaotic; jumbled: a confused mass of papers on the floor.
----------------------------------------------

sycophantic

\Syc`o*phan"tic\, Sycophantical \Syc`o*phan"tic*al\, a. [Cf. Gr. ? slanderous.] Of or pertaining to a sycophant; characteristic of a sycophant; meanly or obsequiously flattering; courting favor by mean adulation; parasitic.

I could go on but someone might do something mean to me.

confucy
09-30-2003, 10:26 PM
Sorry, Nick. The maintenance men are here to repair an overflowing sink and I got CONFUSED! Where are my pills?

Yes, Gonzo, there is a Lew Payne connection. He is a very talented individual. Don't ask me. Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people. :okthumb:

*KK*
09-30-2003, 10:30 PM
Oh Nick, I forgot to remind you of #3.

Mastercard.

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 10:32 PM
Ok then confucy :)

Whether they have power over you is not relevant.

Oh yes it is. :)

gonzo
09-30-2003, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 06:34 PM
Sorry, Nick. The maintenance men are here to repair an overflowing sink and I got CONFUSED! Where are my pills?

Yes, Gonzo, there is a Lew Payne connection. He is a very talented individual. Don't ask me. Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people. :okthumb:
Sorry Gary is too big of a pussy to post over here...I guess Serge is mean to him or Mike makes him look stupid...maybe he and Kato...I mean KB are busy out at the McDonalds drive thru.

I dont know how to properly address Lew...is it Payne or De Payne?

Everyone knows that PK=Lew. Look at the cut line under my avatar.

So Im stuck with your story. Is it a love triangle with you Lew and Kev...baybee?

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 10:39 PM
Oh Nick, I forgot to remind you of #3.

Mastercard.

Fair enough. :)

#4 The IRS or RevCanada

Diamond Jim
09-30-2003, 10:43 PM
Most influential #5 (this year) - Acacia

How about least influential?

1.) DJ

BradShaw
09-30-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI+Sep 30 2003, 10:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Sep 30 2003, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -gonzo@Sep 30 2003, 11:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--JR@Sep 30 2003, 07:29 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?
Well after yesterday, I will never do business with any company KB is associated with.

I will also advise my friends, and associates to do the same.[/b][/quote]
I tried to tell people that months ago. There is some serious behind the scenes manipulation going on. "friends" are blowing smoke up each others ass like it is going out of style. I hear Shok is sending some fog juice to CA just in case!

gonzo
09-30-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by BradShaw+Sep 30 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BradShaw @ Sep 30 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Mike AI@Sep 30 2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by -gonzo@Sep 30 2003, 11:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--JR@Sep 30 2003, 07:29 AM
i dont know either of them except that i spoke to D$ a few times on the phone. I think he has probably done ok. promoting the Players Ball can't be that easy.

i dont know KB except from the boards. the only one i have heard KB is a great marketing person is from his brother. i can't recall anyone other than those two talking about how great he is. generally, when a business or company benefited in the way they would have you believe they did from his "expertise", they typically let the world know.

i have always been baffled by a few people in this biz who can do such a great job promoting themselves and can't seem to get their own shit together and are usually broke.
After reading that quote yesterday from KBizzle in Wired...

ALl I can think of is that College Fuckfest clip where the song goes ...."suck my dick bitch....suck my dick!"

I guess thats self promotion of sorts?
Well after yesterday, I will never do business with any company KB is associated with.

I will also advise my friends, and associates to do the same.
I tried to tell people that months ago. There is some serious behind the scenes manipulation going on. "friends" are blowing smoke up each others ass like it is going out of style. I hear Shok is sending some fog juice to CA just in case![/b][/quote]
Ok Brad...

I gotta ask. What kinda list would a smart white boy like you pay 17K for?
Was it that much heralded CCBill members list? Virgin AOL screen names [you shoulda got em from Joe E] ? I mean really for 17K what the fuck did he promise you?

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 10:50 PM
Most influential #5 (this year) - Acacia

How about least influential?

1.) DJ



That was a very influencial post
:-)

Brad,

One benefit of the VISA requirements is that celeb webmasters (ie webmasters who are well known but have no traffic,etc etc) have got to become extinct.

gonzo
09-30-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 06:58 PM
Most influential #5 (this year) - Acacia

How about least influential?

1.) DJ



That was a very influencial post
:-)

Brad,

One benefit of the VISA requirements is that celeb webmasters (ie webmasters who are well known but have no traffic,etc etc) have got to become extinct.
Define celebrity webmaster and give a few examples.

How can one be any kind of webmaster and not have any traffic?

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 10:56 PM
Define celebrity webmaster and give a few examples.

How can one be any kind of webmaster and not have any traffic?


ahahahahahahahha you bastard!!!!!

OK,then...Dravyk!!!! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Diamond Jim
09-30-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 10:04 PM
Define celebrity webmaster and give a few examples.

How can one be any kind of webmaster and not have any traffic?


ahahahahahahahha you bastard!!!!!

OK,then...Dravyk!!!! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
That was like watching a volleyball set at the net....

confucy
09-30-2003, 11:02 PM
Not fair listing Acacia, Mastercard, Visa, the IRS, Ashcroft!

They or their counterparts will always be in the picture. You might as well throw in PayPal, too. I thought we were making up lists of powerful individuals in the porn business, not credit card companies and government agencies! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to list the above bad guys.

If Kimmy were still employed by CCBill, she would be listing them.

There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 11:03 PM
That was like watching a volleyball set at the net....

Yup and I used poor Dravyk as a safe return ;-))))

Sorry,Drav.You know I don't mean it nasty.

I'll do the powerful list,gonzo,you do the celeb webmaster list.Fair?

ahahahahaha

cj
09-30-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 08:11 PM
When two sites are this recognizable, power just naturally follows.
I don't necessarily disagree with your overall point confucy, but i can think of a lot of examples of why this statement isn't true ...

being 'recognised' doesn't *necessarily* equal power - or you'd be the top of that list ;-)

the only reason there are 'recognised' people on that list, is that the true powers in this biz don't WANT to be 'recognised' on top 50 lists

i guess it just depends on your definition of power!

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 11:05 PM
here are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful

OK,but its a start!!!

I would think however being your own boss is a necessity.

*KK*
09-30-2003, 11:05 PM
If I were still at CCBill I'd be working with my clients to get them into Visa and Mastercard compliance while insuring they were making the most money they possibly could.

Don't confuse your self-confessed love of lists with anything I do sweetie.

The only list I care to see any more is the one that consists of deposits into my bank accounts.

And for the record, you are wrong again.

Visa, Mastercard, Acacia and Ashcroft will not always be here. If you were around in mid-99, you might as well have said that DMR would always be here.

BradShaw
09-30-2003, 11:06 PM
I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.

It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.

*KK*
09-30-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 07:10 PM

There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
OH, and while I have my evil eye turned away from Mordor and in your direction, I will tell you now that is the most farcical statement anyone has ever fallen victim to believing in this business.

gonzo
09-30-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 07:10 PM
Not fair listing Acacia, Mastercard, Visa, the IRS, Ashcroft!

They or their counterparts will always be in the picture. You might as well throw in PayPal, too. I thought we were making up lists of powerful individuals in the porn business, not credit card companies and government agencies! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to list the above bad guys.

If Kimmy were still employed by CCBill, she would be listing them.

There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
Posing in Mitnick Teeshirts does though....

http://www.babe.net/exposed/exposed.html

gonzo
09-30-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:14 PM
I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.

It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Brad...

I should have qualified that by saying it wasnt a set up or anything.
I just wanted to know. Shit. I dont know any spammers that would pay 17K for an email list.

If you had told me I could have repoed one from Mr Cash and sold it to you for 2K less. Right now 5K would suffice.

BradShaw
09-30-2003, 11:22 PM
It was not a "spam" list, I would only buy a list of verified porn surfers. "opt in"

Many people here have spent $50k+ on an email list. So $17k is nothing.

gonzo
09-30-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:30 PM
It was not a "spam" list, I would only buy a list of verified porn surfers. "opt in"

Many people here have spent $50k+ on an email list. So $17k is nothing.
I trust your judgement on this.
Personally I have no use for an opt-in or a even a spam list.
But I do remember Mr Cash telling me all his lists were opt in.

Mebbe you got to opt in to get paid in full too?

cj
09-30-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 10:30 PM
It was not a "spam" list, I would only buy a list of verified porn surfers. "opt in"
What would you define as an opt in list brad?

the way i see it ... if you are buying a list from someone else, those on the list didn't opt to receive anything from you ... 'opt in' doesn't mean 'only requested to be removed 10 times' or 'opted in to a list at 1 site therefore opted into the list of anyone who purchases it' ...

opt in means that someone visited YOUR site and requested information on YOUR services - double opt in is where they confirm this request ... not to split hairs, but you have been very outspoken on the issue for quite a long time - its just surprising to see your attitude change so much on a suject you've judged plenty of others on ...

Dravyk
09-30-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 10:11 PM
Yup and I used poor Dravyk as a safe return ;-))))

Sorry,Drav.You know I don't mean it nasty.
Nick, you're getting old when you start playing it safe! Tsk, tsk.

Tell us who you really want to list. Get it out. It'll make you feel better. :)

BradShaw
09-30-2003, 11:44 PM
CJ, I am a whore. The business changed, I changed and adapted. I also spoke out against cross sells. The model for sucess has changed, and continues to do so.

Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.

Nickatilynx
09-30-2003, 11:48 PM
The business changed, I changed and adapted.

Nawww your morals did :-))

Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.



ahahahahahaha right back onto your high horse again, Brad.
Now you are a "moral" spammer ahahahahahaha



And Damn you Dravyk!!!! ;-)))

I wanted to say Kaiser. :)

And it has made me feel better.Thanks me old mate :)

BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 30 2003, 07:59 PM

Dravyk
09-30-2003, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 10:56 PM
BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))
Ah, that explains the air raid sirens!! LOL

No problems, Nick! The truth shall set you free ... *cough*

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 12:01 AM
The truth shall set you free ... *cough*

Physician..heal thyself ;-)))

Dravyk
10-01-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 11:09 PM
The truth shall set you free ... *cough*

Physician..heal thyself ;-)))
Naw! Some people can't handle the truth. :yowsa:

cj
10-01-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 10:52 PM
CJ, I am a whore. The business changed, I changed and adapted. I also spoke out against cross sells. The model for sucess has changed, and continues to do so.

Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.
Brad, Nick beat me to it ...

>>Nawww your morals did :-))

BUT ... i like this non-hypocrite person ... can he come out and play more often? :okthumb:

"there are responsible ways to mail" :wnw:

gonzo
10-01-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by cj+Sep 30 2003, 08:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Sep 30 2003, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 10:52 PM
CJ, I am a whore. The business changed, I changed and adapted. I also spoke out against cross sells. The model for sucess has changed, and continues to do so.

Actually there are responsible ways to mail. I am not going to go into it, or educate. But needless to say, I was quite conservative, and you will not see Microsoft or AOL coming after me. No spoofing, no games, etc.
Brad, Nick beat me to it ...

>>Nawww your morals did :-))

BUT ... i like this non-hypocrite person ... can he come out and play more often? :okthumb:

"there are responsible ways to mail" :wnw:[/b][/quote]
Need some spam hosting?

*KK*
10-01-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 07:56 PM
BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))
Oct 1 is the START of compliance Nicholas.

December 15 is going to be the date that tells the tale, I'll wager you.

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 12:26 AM
No bet! :)

I'm gonna go watch "Crimescene"..hope it doesn't suck.
L8r all :)

Dravyk
10-01-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by *KK*+Sep 30 2003, 11:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Sep 30 2003, 11:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 07:56 PM
BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))
Oct 1 is the START of compliance Nicholas.

December 15 is going to be the date that tells the tale, I'll wager you.[/b][/quote]
You don't think December 31st is more telling, KK?

gonzo
10-01-2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:14 PM
I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.

It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Hey Brad...

Maybe D$ was right. Get ready to be dazzled by pure salesmanship from the one the only KBizzle!

Nice cameo Porn daddy!

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/awe/kbsells.ram

Hooper
10-01-2003, 12:53 AM
I dont know any spammers that would pay 17K for an email list.

There have been several lists offered to me for far more than that that i declined.... and i regret it to this day. A good list is worth a LOT.

gonzo
10-01-2003, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Hooper@Sep 30 2003, 09:01 PM
I dont know any spammers that would pay 17K for an email list.

There have been several lists offered to me for far more than that that i declined.... and i regret it to this day. A good list is worth a LOT.
Spam sells.
The question remains...can you take the heat?
Not me bubba.
The future of spam looks bleak...and that includes how all of it no matter how you mask it...opt in...double opt in...Russian...Canadian...Curaco...Grand Caymans etc.


The best thing that will happen will be for some laws to appear on the books that are enforceable.

Those who have been spinning it and making fat cash off of it hopefully invested their money wisely.

*KK*
10-01-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Dravyk+Sep 30 2003, 08:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Sep 30 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -*KK*@Sep 30 2003, 11:31 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Sep 30 2003, 07:56 PM
BTW its October 1st on the East coast I believe ;-)))
Oct 1 is the START of compliance Nicholas.

December 15 is going to be the date that tells the tale, I'll wager you.
You don't think December 31st is more telling, KK?[/b][/quote]
Quite frankly I think that the 15th is the over on the stretch.

Mike AI
10-01-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by gonzo+Sep 30 2003, 11:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Sep 30 2003, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Sep 30 2003, 07:14 PM
I was told it was a list that would make me back more than $17k. At this point, it is not even about the $17k or the list. I do not even mention the $17k anymore. In the end, $17k will be the least of KB's problems.

It is amazing what his "friends" say about this lost soul privately.
Hey Brad...

Maybe D$ was right. Get ready to be dazzled by pure salesmanship from the one the only KBizzle!

Nice cameo Porn daddy!

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/awe/kbsells.ram[/b][/quote]


I would not do business with KB or anyone who works with him, but I have to say the boy can talk. He is all mouth, no brains!

Actually he is all mouth, all bullshit.

Winetalk.com
10-01-2003, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 09:34 PM
Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people. :okthumb:
confucy, I'd like to ask GK about how much did he make/lose supporting Lew and his Paypal quest
;-))))))


do you have the answer?
;-)))))

Almighty Colin
10-01-2003, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by gonzo@Oct 1 2003, 12:09 AM
Not me bubba.

Gonzo. ;-)

Almighty Colin
10-01-2003, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by confucy@Sep 30 2003, 10:10 PM
Not fair listing Acacia, Mastercard, Visa, the IRS, Ashcroft!


Since when did anyone promise to play fair? What we have here is a bunch of people that like to rig the rules.

slavdogg
10-01-2003, 04:45 AM
fuck rules
i break em all the time :rokk:

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 08:32 AM
i break em all the time

Rules should never be broken , they bend so easily ;-)))

gonzo
10-01-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Colin+Oct 1 2003, 12:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Oct 1 2003, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--gonzo@Oct 1 2003, 12:09 AM
Not me bubba.

Gonzo. ;-)[/b][/quote]
Colin...I sitll want 10K and a trip to Vegas....let me write my story!
We will still be partying!

gonzo
10-01-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Sep 30 2003, 11:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Sep 30 2003, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Sep 30 2003, 09:34 PM
Ask PK and GK. Ask anyone who has done business with him. Technical wizards are very special people. :okthumb:
confucy, I'd like to ask GK about how much did he make/lose supporting Lew and his Paypal quest
;-))))))


do you have the answer?
;-)))))[/b][/quote]
Hey Serge ...can I interest you in a few teeshirts?

Buff
10-01-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by *KK*+Sep 30 2003, 09:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Sep 30 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Sep 30 2003, 07:10 PM

There are many webmasters who make money, but money alone doesn't make someone powerful.
OH, and while I have my evil eye turned away from Mordor and in your direction, I will tell you now that is the most farcical statement anyone has ever fallen victim to believing in this business.[/b][/quote]
Hmm.

Power -- it's a vague and nebulous concept, like "capital" (the economic term). But what is power?

Power is the ability to impose your will on others.

All the money in the world couldn't save the King of France when the peasants came for his neck.

Money can buy power, to a certain extent; but only to a certain extent.



Last edited by Buff at Oct 1 2003, 09:38 AM

Buff
10-01-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by slavdogg@Oct 1 2003, 02:53 AM
fuck rules
i break em all the time :rokk:
Amen! The only rules I don't break are the ones which I don't know how to break yet -- like the rules of physics.

confucy
10-01-2003, 12:21 PM
Buff, you look very powerful in your movies! :agrin:

Mike AI
10-01-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 11:29 AM
Buff, you look very powerful in your movies! :agrin:


Good editing! :awinky:

confucy
10-01-2003, 01:08 PM
I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:

1. Flashman: http://www.setgo.com/article_gallery.html?...d7731794e231bd3 (http://www.setgo.com/article_gallery.html?id=860320be12a1c050cd7731794e 231bd3)
2. Gene Ross: http://www.therealgeneross.com
3. Alexander the Poet
4. Stephen Cohen
5. JoeE
6. Forest

jimmyD's take on the MOST POWERFUL PORN LIST:
http://simplyjimmyd.com

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 01:14 PM
I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:


I'd nominate you to that list confucy , but you are not a webmaster ;-)))

Dravyk
10-01-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 07:40 AM
i break em all the time
Rules should never be broken , they bend so easily ;-)))
Rules are like the velvet ropes outside of the "chic" places. ... Need I say more?

gonzo
10-01-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 09:22 AM
I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:


I'd nominate you to that list confucy , but you are not a webmaster ;-)))
Come on Nick...you know she shoulda been on that powerful list cuz shes a Lufe Ford wanna bee. Come to think of it has anyone ever seen em in the same place?

The rhetoric and industry pertinance cetainly do seem to "jive" with each other.

BTW last I check Forest didnt have up a site currently.

confucy
10-01-2003, 03:46 PM
Nick, how do you know what I have or don't have?

I know one thing, I don't scam people or cheat them like you do. You are like ScotPB -- you talk big but can't back it up. The world is full of scam artists. Want to meet me in Las Vegas and compare notes about your past? If Luke doesn't come out with a book about PORN ASSHOLES, I may be forced to do it. I would have you on my list. :moon:

BradShaw
10-01-2003, 03:54 PM
"You are like ScotPB "

I can attest, Nick carries bolt cutters just like Scott!



Last edited by BradShaw at Oct 1 2003, 12:02 PM

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 03:54 PM
A tad sensitive aren't we ;-)))

Nick, how do you know what I have or don't have?


Mitnick told me! ahahahahahaha

:nyanya:

PORN ASSHOLES, I may be forced to do it. I would have you on my list

I'm flattered , thank you ;-))

There is nothing that more obviously seperates the truly powerful from the powerless than graciousness.

;-))

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:00 PM
Nick, I'm just trying to make you happy. When I treated you with respect, you basically told me you were not worthy. Some men prefer being kicked in the balls, and I think you may be one of them. Therefore, I promise you I will put you on a *BAD GUY* list when I send my article to WIRED. :inlove:

Brad, you will go on the list for THE MOST IMPROVED PORN WEBMASTERS. People are beginning to like you. Watch out! :awinky:

gonzo
10-01-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 11:54 AM
Nick, how do you know what I have or don't have?

I know one thing, I don't scam people or cheat them like you do. You are like ScotPB -- you talk big but can't back it up. The world is full of scam artists. Want to meet me in Las Vegas and compare notes about your past? If Luke doesn't come out with a book about PORN ASSHOLES, I may be forced to do it. I would have you on my list. :moon:
My lying ass bitch...

You know youy wont show your face at any fucking show where we are at. youd rather sit in the corner and take notes and masterbate with the hair brush handle.

Just another bullshit threat.

gonzo
10-01-2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 12:08 PM
Nick, I'm just trying to make you happy. When I treated you with respect, you basically told me you were not worthy. Some men prefer being kicked in the balls, and I think you may be one of them. Therefore, I promise you I will put you on a *BAD GUY* list when I send my article to WIRED. :inlove:

Brad, you will go on the list for THE MOST IMPROVED PORN WEBMASTERS. People are beginning to like you. Watch out! :awinky:
Brad been calling out all the bullshitters.

Watch out you'll be next.

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 04:05 PM
Nick, I'm just trying to make you happy. When I treated you with respect, you basically told me you were not worthy. Some men prefer being kicked in the balls, and I think you may be one of them. Therefore, I promise you I will put you on a *BAD GUY* list when I send my article to WIRED.

Brad, you will go on the list for THE MOST IMPROVED PORN WEBMASTERS. People are beginning to like you. Watch out!

I can't speak for Brad , but I for one can't put a price on how much your opinion of me is worth to me.
:)

*KK*
10-01-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 12:13 PM
Nick, I'm just trying to make you happy. When I treated you with respect, you basically told me you were not worthy. Some men prefer being kicked in the balls, and I think you may be one of them. Therefore, I promise you I will put you on a *BAD GUY* list when I send my article to WIRED.

Brad, you will go on the list for THE MOST IMPROVED PORN WEBMASTERS. People are beginning to like you. Watch out!

I can't speak for Brad , but I for one can't put a price on how much your opinion of me is worth to me.
:)
You can round to the nearest .00 ;)

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:12 PM
There he is again. The fat G-MAN is on my tail! Listen asshole, if you are going to follow me around like the asshole you are, I want a percentage of the exposure time you are getting.

You are such a wimp-dick SOB! You only attack the weak. You never say anything that will make waves when you are writing about Brad, Serge, Mike, and those who would kick your fucking ass. I'm the only strong person you try to intimidate, and it just makes you look like a bigger shithead. You are like one of those large flies that circles around cow dung! The more you swat it, the more it buzzes and lays eggs in your backyard! :papow:

Peaches
10-01-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 03:54 PM
If Luke doesn't come out with a book about PORN ASSHOLES, I may be forced to do it. I would have you on my list. :moon:
Billy's beat the two of you to it. B)

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 04:14 PM
You are like one of those large flies that circles around cow dung!

So gonzo is the fly?

That makes you either the cow,or the cow dung ,I guess :)

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:16 PM
Oh Shit! This is too funny. Here is KK, on my case! Was your name mentioned? It doesn't matter what I say, here they come. Nick, you can't compete with these two idiots. Sorry! They love me! I think all three of you love me. Can't you find any other way to be recognized?

You are keeping my thread and Luke's thread alive.

Thank you one and all! :inlove:

gonzo
10-01-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 12:22 PM
You are like one of those large flies that circles around cow dung!

So gonzo is the fly?

That makes you either the cow,or the cow dung ,I guess :)
My guess is shes the cud the cow chews on.

*KK*
10-01-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 12:24 PM
Oh Shit! This is too funny. Here is KK, on my case! Was your name mentioned? It doesn't matter what I say, here they come. Nick, you can't compete with these two idiots. Sorry! They love me! I think all three of you love me. Can't you find any other way to be recognized?

You are keeping my thread and Luke's thread alive.

Thank you one and all! :inlove:
I think if we look at the number of times my name comes up in your posts unrelated to anything, the truth will out.

In the meantime, I'll say it again... I push your buttons you cannot help but respond.

I always did like that whackamole game at the state fair.

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:20 PM
Peaches, you are way off base. Billie has a simple little list.

Luke writes BOOKS about porn.

Peaches, since you are the sweet Georgia peach, which porn people would you put on your ASSHOLE LIST? :rokk:

You're not blind, Nick. Wouldn't you be embarrassed to have Gonzo following you? The guy is sick!

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 04:20 PM
You are keeping my thread and Luke's thread alive.


You are obsessed with a thread being "owned" by the originator.

Its just a thread. :)

Stop obsessing, its making me obsessed! ;-)))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Oct 1 2003, 12:29 PM

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:25 PM
Kimmy, let's be serious for one second. I am genuinely worried about you. The Kimmy I remember would not waste her time repeating the same boring phrases over and over. That Kimmy was into her business. Did losing Brad hurt you so much that you must attack every female who brings up your past?

How about moving into Gary Kremen's house? You need a break. As KB pointed out on GFY...everyone who is anyone has spent some time lying around Gary's house sniffing in the fumes and mellowing out.

You are in need of some serious MELLOW MEDS. :gbounce:

*KK*
10-01-2003, 04:26 PM
Ah little princess, in order to train a dog or teach a child, repetition is the key.

My finger is getting a little tired at the moment tho, but I'm sure it will bounce back.

Peaches
10-01-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 04:28 PM
Luke writes BOOKS about porn.
How many books has Luke written? How many has he sold? :lol:

Peaches, since you are the sweet Georgia peach, which porn people would you put on your ASSHOLE LIST? :rokk:

I happen to like assholes, so my list would disappoint you. Now, if I was going to make a list of people with obvious problems who aren't happy unless they're causing problems, i.e. being where they're not wanted, the list would be short. :)

gonzo
10-01-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 12:33 PM
Kimmy, let's be serious for one second. I am genuinely worried about you. The Kimmy I remember would not waste her time repeating the same boring phrases over and over. That Kimmy was into her business. Did losing Brad hurt you so much that you must attack every female who brings up your past?

How about moving into Gary Kremen's house? You need a break. As KB pointed out on GFY...everyone who is anyone has spent some time lying around Gary's house sniffing in the fumes and mellowing out.

You are in need of some serious MELLOW MEDS. :gbounce:
Lets get serious and all chip in and buy you a Palm.
It will help keep your lies at least somewhat cohereant and stabile.
On 2 occasions youve supposedly been at a wedding and posted day and night ...I guess thru telekinesis?

Its a lot more fun to piss with somene that has half a clue but so far all your key words are...fat,drunk and thief.

Its ok though...ours for you is just plain old stupid.

Nickatilynx
10-01-2003, 04:30 PM
There already is a list of assholes,confucy :) (http://www.isjustanasshole.com)

Peaches,

That post was magnificent :)

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:33 PM
I got it, Peaches. It's okay to name names. I will still luv you :inlove:

In fact, I like both the city Peach and the country Peach. What year did you win the Miss Georgia contest. Did you smile and throw the baton high into the air?

I have an older brother you might like to meet. No, he isn't on the internet and he isn't a bastard. He is not into porn, but he could help you fish and hunt and make repairs to your log cabin. :rolleyes:

Peaches
10-01-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 04:41 PM
I got it, Peaches. It's okay to name names. I will still luv you :inlove:

In fact, I like both the city Peach and the country Peach. What year did you win the Miss Georgia contest. Did you smile and throw the baton high into the air?

I have an older brother you might like to meet. No, he isn't on the internet and he isn't a bastard. He is not into porn, but he could help you fish and hunt and make repairs to your log cabin. :rolleyes:
At times I wonder if you're even aware enough to realize how pathetic you sound....... :unsure:



Last edited by Peaches at Oct 1 2003, 04:43 PM

gonzo
10-01-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Peaches+Oct 1 2003, 12:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Oct 1 2003, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Oct 1 2003, 04:41 PM
I got it, Peaches. It's okay to name names. I will still luv you :inlove:

In fact, I like both the city Peach and the country Peach. What year did you win the Miss Georgia contest. Did you smile and throw the baton high into the air?

I have an older brother you might like to meet. No, he isn't on the internet and he isn't a bastard. He is not into porn, but he could help you fish and hunt and make repairs to your log cabin. :rolleyes:
At times I wonder if you're even aware enough to realize how pathetic you sound....... :unsure:[/b][/quote]
I wonder if she feeds the kitties the strained pears?

confucy
10-01-2003, 04:49 PM
Peaches, I have never claimed to be sane. I have never said that I wasn't pathetic. I have never said that I have all the answers to the questions which are thrown my way. I have never asked for you to pay attention to me.

If I bother you so much, then say a little prayer for me and go about your business.

*KK*
10-01-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 12:57 PM
Peaches, I have never claimed to be sane. I have never said that I wasn't pathetic. I have never said that I have all the answers to the questions which are thrown my way. I have never asked for you to pay attention to me.

If I bother you so much, then say a little prayer for me and go about your business.
I guess it's too late for you to delete all those posts above SCREAMING for Peaches attention, huh?

confucy
10-01-2003, 05:46 PM
SCREAMING FOR ATTENTION, I must have learned that from you, Kimmy.

Were you born Kimberly? Kim? Kimber? Kimmy? Kimmie? KimmyKim?

Peaches just can't help herself. She reads a post from me, and she must respond.

Same goes for you, Kimmy! Instead of giving me advice about Peaches, why don't you fly to Georgia and help Peaches decorate her cabin. After all, you claim to have been an interior decorator in another life. :rolleyes:

*KK*
10-01-2003, 10:19 PM
You certainly didnt learn your stalking act from me, I'll grant you that.

Peaches is right.

confucy
10-02-2003, 03:19 AM
Kimmy, I know you have taken another trip and will be away from the boards for a while, but when you return, I would like to see the police reports showing that I am a stalker. If you can't prove your accusations, then I suggest you shut the fuck up.

You are demeaning my wonderful reputation with your libelous comments. What will happen if transcripts from the boards are sent to your employers. That would be a pity, and there are sick people who don't like you who might snitch you out. Just ask Carrie. She is an expert at taking information off the internet and sending it to anyone who will give her money.

I would hate to see you lose your job, Miss Kimmy. You have lost your way, and I'm trying to clear a path for you. Be a good girl and apologize to me and Brad. You will feel so much better. :okthumb:

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 2 2003, 02:27 AM
Just ask Carrie. She is an expert at taking information off the internet and sending it to anyone who will give her money.

I would hate to see you lose your job, Miss Kimmy. You have lost your way, and I'm trying to clear a path for you. Be a good girl and apologize to me and Brad. You will feel so much better. :okthumb:
I paid Carrie $100,000, set her for life!@
;-)

Kimmy,
that wouldn't be enough, sorry....
somehow confucy forgot to mention that you MUST show me your boobs too! without that, no amends will be complete! :bjump:

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 03:49 AM
BTW, confucy, in the other thread you mentioned that Gary can sue anybody...
not so.
There is one person he is affraid of and will never even dream of touching...and it's YOU!

He IS scared shitless of you and the topic was discussed about 6-8 months ago and you can trust me with it';s accuracy!

confucy
10-02-2003, 04:56 AM
Impossible, Serge! Gary has the money to screw up my life forever with many lawsuits if he felt the urge. Don't know what the cause of action would be since I have never done anything to warrant a lawsuit. I discovered Gary before I got into porn. I heard about his battle for his domain name, and I contacted him and wished him well.

To this day, I don't know whether Gary knows that confucy is Kimberly. When we spoke to each other, I was just Kim. When I kept running into KimmyKim, I realized that I couldn't use my name. It reminds me of the Screen Actors Guild. You cannot use your real name if it is being used by another actor.

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 2 2003, 04:04 AM
Impossible, Serge! Gary has the money to screw up my life forever with many lawsuits if he felt the urge. Don't know what the cause of action would be since I have never done anything to warrant a lawsuit. I discovered Gary before I got into porn. I heard about his battle for his domain name, and I contacted him and wished him well.

To this day, I don't know whether Gary knows that confucy is Kimberly. When we spoke to each other, I was just Kim. When I kept running into KimmyKim, I realized that I couldn't use my name. It reminds me of the Screen Actors Guild. You cannot use your real name if it is being used by another actor.
confucy,
money don't mean shit most of the time when it comes to one's personal sense of security....

here are a few examples:
Howard Hughes - was affraid of his own shadow despite all his billions

JFK - wasn't exactly poor,
did it save him from the assasin's bullet?

what one's believes and what one's state of mind and what one's reality,
can have NOTHING in common!

Gary beleives that no money and lawyers can protect him from YOU!
if you put your mind to it
;-))))

He sees what others has to jump thru when you put your mind to them
;-))))))

you know he is fragile, don't you?
;-))))

JR
10-02-2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 2 2003, 01:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 2 2003, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Oct 2 2003, 04:04 AM
Impossible, Serge! Gary has the money to screw up my life forever with many lawsuits if he felt the urge. Don't know what the cause of action would be since I have never done anything to warrant a lawsuit. I discovered Gary before I got into porn. I heard about his battle for his domain name, and I contacted him and wished him well.

To this day, I don't know whether Gary knows that confucy is Kimberly. When we spoke to each other, I was just Kim. When I kept running into KimmyKim, I realized that I couldn't use my name. It reminds me of the Screen Actors Guild. You cannot use your real name if it is being used by another actor.
confucy,
money don't mean shit most of the time when it comes to one's personal sense of security....

here are a few examples:
Howard Hughes - was affraid of his own shadow despite all his billions

JFK - wasn't exactly poor,
did it save him from the assasin's bullet?

what one's believes and what one's state of mind and what one's reality,
can have NOTHING in common!

Gary beleives that no money and lawyers can protect him from YOU!
if you put your mind to it
;-))))

He sees what others has to jump thru when you put your mind to them
;-))))))

you know he is fragile, don't you?
;-))))[/b][/quote]
some of the CIA reports about Howard Hughes are pretty interesting during the end. he was completely out of his mind.

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by JR@Oct 2 2003, 05:01 AM

some of the CIA reports about Howard Hughes are pretty interesting during the end. he was completely out of his mind.
JR, at the end,
MOST OF US gonna be out of our minds!!!

Just look at me and you'll see where we all are going
;-))))

*KK*
10-02-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by confucy@Oct 1 2003, 11:27 PM
You are demeaning my wonderful reputation with your libelous comments. What will happen if transcripts from the boards are sent to your employers. That would be a pity, and there are sick people who don't like you who might snitch you out. Just ask Carrie. She is an expert at taking information off the internet and sending it to anyone who will give her money.

I would hate to see you lose your job, Miss Kimmy. You have lost your way, and I'm trying to clear a path for you. Be a good girl and apologize to me and Brad. You will feel so much better. :okthumb:
Are you just stupid? Or are you smoking crack instead of taking your meds? First you cyberstalk me, then you attempt to threaten me repeatedly on a public message board?

ROFLMAO.

I am not an employee, dear. And you are welcome to send anything you like to anyone you like.

Apologize to you? For what?

Apologize to Brad? LOL, I don't think that mine and Brads relationship is any of your business, to say the least.

Get some help. You need it.

Next time you want to threaten me, at least find something that is a threat.

Now, back to everyone's regularly scheduled programming, I'm off to get my nails done and do some packing.

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 02:47 PM
confucy, she is BLUFFING!!!!

threaten her you show me the pics of her TITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*KK*
10-02-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Oct 2 2003, 10:55 AM
confucy, she is BLUFFING!!!!

threaten her you show me the pics of her TITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heh, heh, you know if there were pics out there, you'd be among the first to get a signed copy ;)

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by *KK*+Oct 2 2003, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (*KK* @ Oct 2 2003, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Oct 2 2003, 10:55 AM
confucy, she is BLUFFING!!!!

threaten her you show me the pics of her TITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heh, heh, you know if there were pics out there, you'd be among the first to get a signed copy ;)[/b][/quote]
KK, may I quote you that you have no tits?
;-)))

*KK*
10-02-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 2 2003, 11:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 2 2003, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -*KK*@Oct 2 2003, 02:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Oct 2 2003, 10:55 AM
confucy, she is BLUFFING!!!!

threaten her you show me the pics of her TITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heh, heh, you know if there were pics out there, you'd be among the first to get a signed copy ;)
KK, may I quote you that you have no tits?
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Sure honey, anyone whos seen me in a swimsuit can attest to that ;)

JR
10-02-2003, 04:42 PM
these threads piss me off. i keep waiting for a "top 1000 mediocre pornographers" list, so i can have my day in the sun but it just aint a happenin' for me.

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by JR@Oct 2 2003, 03:50 PM
these threads piss me off. i keep waiting for a "top 1000 mediocre pornographers" list, so i can have my day in the sun but it just aint a happenin' for me.
JR,
it won't help ya...
therer are 10,000 GFYers in front of you for mediocriocity laurels
;-)))

JR
10-02-2003, 04:56 PM
yeah, i dont think i will wait for the "mediocre 100,000" list.

Now i know how Nick must feel. He chose a company name that starts with "W" so he is always at the bottom of the Spamhaus list which is alphabetical. hard to be notorious when you are at the bottom of the list :(

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 05:02 PM
don't worry about Nick...
his last name starts with A,
first name starts with J,
alias starts with N (which is in the middle of the alphabet) and company starts with W...
he got it ALL covered!
;-)))

Nickatilynx
10-02-2003, 05:32 PM
Now i know how Nick must feel. He chose a company name that starts with "W" so he is always at the bottom of the Spamhaus list which is alphabetical. hard to be notorious when you are at the bottom of the list

Why do people say these things about me?

I just happen to have a lot of people in my address book that I like to keep up to date from time to time with various products I come across.

I'm a friend of the consumer,really.

It sucks to be me :(


don't worry about Nick...
his last name starts with A,
first name starts with J,
alias starts with N (which is in the middle of the alphabet) and company starts with W...
he got it ALL covered!
;-)))

I do the best I can......


;-)))

(wandering off to check on things...singing to himself...)

I hope you like spamming too...

;)))


*note : I am responsible bulk emailer.
Anytime someone gets bulk email,they claim I'm responsible!!

:yowsa:


...I thank you ;-))

Winetalk.com
10-02-2003, 05:38 PM
hahahahahahhaha,
Nick, thanks for the laugh of the day

"*note : I am responsible bulk emailer.
Anytime someone gets bulk email,they claim I'm responsible!!"

LOL
hahahahahahahhahahahaah
;_)))

photogregg
10-02-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 12:22 PM
I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:


I'd nominate you to that list confucy , but you are not a webmaster ;-)))
Damn Nick...got me thinking...All the years I've seen confucy post...still have no clue of what or who she does

gonzo
10-02-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by photogregg+Oct 2 2003, 04:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (photogregg @ Oct 2 2003, 04:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Oct 1 2003, 12:22 PM
I nominate several people for the MOST BIZARRE PORN WEBMASTER LIST:


I'd nominate you to that list confucy , but you are not a webmaster ;-)))
Damn Nick...got me thinking...All the years I've seen confucy post...still have no clue of what or who she does[/b][/quote]
Its really Luke Ford in drag...

Carrie
10-02-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Oct 2 2003, 02:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Oct 2 2003, 02:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Oct 2 2003, 02:27 AM
Just ask Carrie. She is an expert at taking information off the internet and sending it to anyone who will give her money.

I would hate to see you lose your job, Miss Kimmy. You have lost your way, and I'm trying to clear a path for you. Be a good girl and apologize to me and Brad. You will feel so much better. :okthumb:
I paid Carrie $100,000, set her for life!@
;-)
[/b][/quote]
This is simply NOT true.
It was $100,000 **and** an autographed picture of your penis. Which you still have yet to send, mind you. I'm not taking those "I've been out of the country" excuses much longer!

Winetalk.com
10-03-2003, 12:24 AM
This is simply NOT true.
It was $100,000 **and** an autographed picture of your penis. Which you still have yet to send, mind you. I'm not taking those "I've been out of the country" excuses much longer![/QUOTE]
Carrie, cum and get it!
;-)))

Carrie
10-03-2003, 05:05 AM
Oh, sure. You'll wire money but you won't snail-mail a picture. I see what you're doing... you just want me to blow my snitch fee following you around the globe to get my pic. I'm onto you! :ph34r:

Winetalk.com
10-03-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Carrie@Oct 3 2003, 04:13 AM
Oh, sure. You'll wire money but you won't snail-mail a picture. I see what you're doing... you just want me to blow my snitch fee following you around the globe to get my pic. I'm onto you! :ph34r:
c'mon, don't make me worse than I realy am!

you fgot one word right, thoiugh..

"blow"
was the one...
if I give you "p", do you still wanna buy a vowel?
;-)
;-)