Brad tries to fuck KB BUT!

[Forest]

and gets post pulled on GFY

Lens...

I thought you didnt do that on gfy?

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d...f04fc0e0e9dc9fc (http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d488755367316f04fc0e0e9dc9fc)

"I also hear the spam complains went through the roof with idiots from GFY sending that list to Brad Shaw's SIC Cash."

LOL brad...

did you get any signups from the list you posted that everyone is mailing?

Smart move

:rokk: :wnw: :okthumb: :salute:

[Mike AI]

Forest I would not beleive everything you read on the internet, especially written by Luke Ford.

[Forest]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 16 2003, 05:40 PM
Forest I would not beleive everything you read on the internet, especially written by Luke Ford.
Mike

im not..

IM actually going by the posts I have read myself and that were pulled from gfy

I posted in the thread that was pulled

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=162956 (http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162956)

is the current thread started by brad

The thread was pulled BY REQUEST of someone at weg



Last edited by Forest at Aug 16 2003, 05:43 PM

[Forest]

BradShaw
Yo momma

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: KB's trailer
Posts: 1967
KB, you will get yours, I promise. $17k will turn out to be pennies in the end.

By the way, are you still selling the stolen Join 4 Free list? Maybe they can take some cues from your boy FM.

Amazing, how the list I provided Join 4 Free matched up exactly. If I am wrong, sue me for slander tough guy;-) Buy you were selling stolen GOODS.


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[ulfie]

Well, I read the thread as well and I thought it was kind of dumb for brad to post the list and drag WEG into it. Do people not know how to use phones anymore? Seems to me that the whole deal was kind of shady from the start but I have gotten burned on email lists before as well. I live in a glass house though so I shall cast no stones.

[Forest]

Originally posted by ulfie@Aug 16 2003, 06:33 PM
Well, I read the thread as well and I thought it was kind of dumb for brad to post the list and drag WEG into it. Do people not know how to use phones anymore? Seems to me that the whole deal was kind of shady from the start but I have gotten burned on email lists before as well. I live in a glass house though so I shall cast no stones.
Ulfie

My biggest amazement was that he dragged WEG into this

:(

and it was THEIR stolen list (according to brad)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 16 2003, 02:35 PM
and gets post pulled on GFY

Lens...

I thought you didnt do that on gfy?

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d...f04fc0e0e9dc9fc (http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d488755367316f04fc0e0e9dc9fc)

"I also hear the spam complains went through the roof with idiots from GFY sending that list to Brad Shaw's SIC Cash."

LOL brad...

did you get any signups from the list you posted that everyone is mailing?

Smart move

:rokk: :wnw: :okthumb: :salute:
Forest bubba--

Thread withstanding...I find it very hard to believe that T would allow that kind of bullshit to go out on his network.

And I know firsthand the kinda of shit storm any list...intentional or unintentional brings to anyone doing any kind of hosting.

T is way too smart to risk his upstreams from catching 40-11 levels of hell of complaints and whining raised by ANY list.

However stranger things have happened.

It took me and the boys a year to learn our lesson on this kind of crap.
We found its a lot easier to deal with mainstream clients and their shit than
fucking Spammers.

They all end up hosing you for the hosting in the end anyhow.

BTW heres a big FUCK YOU GOLDSTIENS since Im on the subject. XO will disco your ass next week anyhow along with firing your sales rep.

[Forest]

Originally posted by gonzo+Aug 16 2003, 06:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Aug 16 2003, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 16 2003, 02:35 PM
and gets post pulled on GFY

Lens...

I thought you didnt do that on gfy?

http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d...f04fc0e0e9dc9fc (http://www.setgo.com/article.html?id=ef41d488755367316f04fc0e0e9dc9fc)

"I also hear the spam complains went through the roof with idiots from GFY sending that list to Brad Shaw's SIC Cash."

LOL brad...

did you get any signups from the list you posted that everyone is mailing?

Smart move

:rokk: :wnw: :okthumb: :salute:
Forest bubba--

Thread withstanding...I find it very hard to believe that T would allow that kind of bullshit to go out on his network.

And I know firsthand the kinda of shit storm any list...intentional or unintentional brings to anyone doing any kind of hosting.

T is way too smart to risk his upstreams from catching 40-11 levels of hell of complaints and whining raised by ANY list.

However stranger things have happened.

It took me and the boys a year to learn our lesson on this kind of crap.
We found its a lot easier to deal with mainstream clients and their shit than
fucking Spammers.

They all end up hosing you for the hosting in the end anyhow.

BTW heres a big FUCK YOU GOLDSTIENS since Im on the subject. XO will disco your ass next week anyhow along with firing your sales rep.[/b][/quote]
i didnt mention anything about T

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:55 PM
i didnt mention anything about T
Duck's "article" that you linked to did. :awinky:

[Forest]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 16 2003, 06:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 16 2003, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:55 PM
i didnt mention anything about T
Duck's "article" that you linked to did. :awinky:[/b][/quote]
ahhhh

well that was flukes fault

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Forest+Aug 16 2003, 03:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Aug 16 2003, 03:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Peaches@Aug 16 2003, 06:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:55 PM
i didnt mention anything about T
Duck's "article" that you linked to did. :awinky:
ahhhh

well that was flukes fault[/b][/quote]
Ill step all the way here on this one and just say this reminds me of a similar story with only a few names changed. Last time I recall a lawsuit and someones life being ruined and someones ego being pumped up even more.

However....as long as there are lists out there. There are those who will steal them and those that will buy them. And then theres the ficticious CCBill list that everyone and their brother has tried to sell....

[Forest]

Originally posted by gonzo+Aug 16 2003, 07:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Aug 16 2003, 07:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Forest@Aug 16 2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by -Peaches@Aug 16 2003, 06:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:55 PM
i didnt mention anything about T
Duck's "article" that you linked to did. :awinky:
ahhhh

well that was flukes fault
Ill step all the way here on this one and just say this reminds me of a similar story with only a few names changed. Last time I recall a lawsuit and someones life being ruined and someones ego being pumped up even more.

However....as long as there are lists out there. There are those who will steal them and those that will buy them. And then theres the ficticious CCBill list that everyone and their brother has tried to sell....[/b][/quote]
there is a good one for sale now on gfy

600 million all opt ins

maybe brad can recover his loss on kb's list with that one

[confucy]

I missed Brad when he took his break from the boards. He grew up while he was away. He came back a very funny man. Lensman refuses to accept responsibility for the threads he removes on GFY. Lensman, or one of his gofers, took down the pictures that Brad Shaw bought for $50 of Easton (alledgedly doing coke). Then Brad supplied the controversial mailing list which KB sold him. I think it is quite acceptable to bring your dirty laundry to the boards if you have tried in good faith to resolve the issue to no avail in person or off the boards.

There is an idiot by the name of *Joe* from The Gallery People who ripped off many webmasters by refusing to refund money on work he didn't do. It's a pretty interesting thread. Some of you may know this cheating webmaster. His customers were very patient for months, and now they are telling their stories. http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...30&pagenumber=1 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2693&perpage=30&pagenumber=1)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 17 2003, 05:39 PM
I missed Brad when he took his break from the boards. He grew up while he was away. He came back a very funny man. Lensman refuses to accept responsibility for the threads he removes on GFY. Lensman, or one of his gofers, took down the pictures that Brad Shaw bought for $50 of Easton (alledgedly doing coke). Then Brad supplied the controversial mailing list which KB sold him. I think it is quite acceptable to bring your dirty laundry to the boards if you have tried in good faith to resolve the issue to no avail in person or off the boards.

There is an idiot by the name of *Joe* from The Gallery People who ripped off many webmasters by refusing to refund money on work he didn't do. It's a pretty interesting thread. Some of you may know this cheating webmaster. His customers were very patient for months, and now they are telling their stories. http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...30&pagenumber=1 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2693&perpage=30&pagenumber=1)
Im having a All Of Em flashback.

Are you bucking for PornDoggys job?

[Forest]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 17 2003, 08:39 PM
I missed Brad when he took his break from the boards. He grew up while he was away. He came back a very funny man. Lensman refuses to accept responsibility for the threads he removes on GFY. Lensman, or one of his gofers, took down the pictures that Brad Shaw bought for $50 of Easton (alledgedly doing coke). Then Brad supplied the controversial mailing list which KB sold him. I think it is quite acceptable to bring your dirty laundry to the boards if you have tried in good faith to resolve the issue to no avail in person or off the boards.

There is an idiot by the name of *Joe* from The Gallery People who ripped off many webmasters by refusing to refund money on work he didn't do. It's a pretty interesting thread. Some of you may know this cheating webmaster. His customers were very patient for months, and now they are telling their stories. http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...30&pagenumber=1 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2693&perpage=30&pagenumber=1)
Serge

I think we found a use for confucy

board reporter

[BradShaw]

Forest, lets not take what you read on lukes site to be fact. There is A LOT more to this story that I can not go into at this point. But, lets just say that Zimm and I have no issues are are working together on this issue. When the full story comes out after a few folks sign a few papers, it will be very interesting to see where this all lands. Some people are going to be very surprised, and in the end I will have my $17k back.

[Forest]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 18 2003, 10:05 AM
Forest, lets not take what you read on lukes site to be fact. There is A LOT more to this story that I can not go into at this point. But, lets just say that Zimm and I have no issues are are working together on this issue. When the full story comes out after a few folks sign a few papers, it will be very interesting to see where this all lands. Some people are going to be very surprised, and in the end I will have my $17k back.
Brad

I was one of the posters and readers of the ORIGINAL thread you posted

I know what was said there and not said there

and lukes site was just an add on to what was said AND removed by the staff at gfy

got to take everything fluke says with a grain of salt

[Forest]

Brad

did anyone mail the Join4free list you posted on gfy for free to sic cash?

I would like to know if they had better luck than u did?

Maybe it was in your delivery of the list and not the list itself

Can u get spam hosting???

I hear you have good connections

[BradShaw]

Forest, I have no connections. I am still trying to figure out how to work BSS in outlook express.

[SykkBoy]

Why would someone buy an email list when they have no clue as to how to mail the list?

[slavdogg]

who fucked who in the what now ??

[confucy]

Forest, I see you are trying to find the *email list* that we have heard so much about on GFY. I looked away for a second, and it disappeared. I learned a long time ago if you see something interesting or important on the internet, grab it, because when you return, it will be gone. That is also my philosophy regarding shopping. Buy that dress now, and if you have second thoughts, you can always return it.

Brad, if you can't mention the url for the KB list on the boards, can you please email it to me...please! I have never used any kind of mailing lists because I am so against spam, but I make use of the newsgroups and have gotten good results. confucy@errata.to

[Forest]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 18 2003, 02:20 PM
Forest, I see you are trying to find the *email list* that we have heard so much about on GFY. I looked away for a second, and it disappeared. I learned a long time ago if you see something interesting or important on the internet, grab it, because when you return, it will be gone. That is also my philosophy regarding shopping. Buy that dress now, and if you have second thoughts, you can always return it.

Brad, if you can't mention the url for the KB list on the boards, can you please email it to me...please! I have never used any kind of mailing lists because I am so against spam, but I make use of the newsgroups and have gotten good results. confucy@errata.to
confucy

i didnt want it then as i knew it to be worthless

I just have been offered a list and wanted to compare it so i dont get ripped off

[confucy]

Forest, I have no use for the list. I want to see it because I have heard so much about it. In '95, I knew many who used lists. But, I received very little, if any spam during those days. Now, I daily receive enough spam to wallpaper my entire house, along with worms, viruses, and weird attachments. I was hit by the blaster worm and something called dameware which is used by hackers to enter your computer and cause you misery. I could easily play the Kathy Bates role in "Misery" if James Caan had hacked my computer. Give me those whips, knives, and guns!

[Forest]

I found it

Several people were willing to send it to me

BIG file brad 52 megs

how many names are on it?

[LeeNoga]

Confucy Babee, the list is compressed in a zip and is is 52 megs, its not something one can send in email, its HUGE.................it has to be downloaded from a server sweetie.

[Forest]

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Aug 19 2003, 08:32 AM
Confucy Babee, the list is compressed in a zip and is is 52 megs, its not something one can send in email, its HUGE.................it has to be downloaded from a server sweetie.
and my post on GFY looking for the list produced MANY people willing to send it to me for free

;-))))))

handlebars@therange.com
handlebarz@msn.com
handlebiz@hotmail.com
handlebrs@aol.com
handlee69@hotmail.com
handleit8@aol.com
handlekg@boat.bt.com
handlemines@aol.com
handlemycharm@hotmail.com
handleone2ruff@aol.com

Hey brad

Whats converting best on SIC CASH for this list?

im going to send it to my russian guys and mail it for you

:okthumb:



Last edited by Forest at Aug 19 2003, 08:35 AM

[LeeNoga]

One gent had 8 signups I believe to SIC Cash within the first couple of hours and then never reported back. One said they lost their account for spamming SIC, dunno if thats true. Alot of ppl spammed that list and nobody is talking about the results, and that makes no sense.

Why is nobody talking numbers? I want to know damnit :-)

[gonzo]

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Aug 19 2003, 06:20 AM
One gent had 8 signups I believe to SIC Cash within the first couple of hours and then never reported back. One said they lost their account for spamming SIC, dunno if thats true. Alot of ppl spammed that list and nobody is talking about the results, and that makes no sense.

Why is nobody talking numbers? I want to know damnit :-)
Spam still pays...but youd better get it while you can.

DOS Tip

CCBill will take your account nad revenue if you spam for on of their affilaite programs...

[Forest]

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Aug 19 2003, 09:20 AM
One gent had 8 signups I believe to SIC Cash within the first couple of hours and then never reported back. One said they lost their account for spamming SIC, dunno if thats true. Alot of ppl spammed that list and nobody is talking about the results, and that makes no sense.

Why is nobody talking numbers? I want to know damnit :-)
I thought a WEG join4free list would be golden

BUT after brad posted it on gfy for all to download its not worth much now im sure

IM curious to know why nobody from weg has commented on a stolen list of their's and bradley posting it

Its now worthless to them

they have lost money because of this?

[BradShaw]

Forest, we do not take spam. Mail that list to me, and I will dead end your page within minutes. You fucking idiot.

That WEG list is 2 years old. WEG has no problem with me, I speak to them almost daily. So why try to stir shit where it does not exist?

The reason I took down the list is NOT because WEG asked me to, it is because someone pointed out to me, that the last thing we need is 100 amateur gfy spamers like yourself.



Last edited by BradShaw at Aug 19 2003, 07:00 AM

[LeeNoga]

Imagine all the folks that have bought it the last couple of months, Brad is being vocal imagine those that are being quiet about it. You can't tell me that if that list is 2 years old WEG just realized it was their list being sold off a milion times.

[confucy]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, THE LIST!

Brad, what happened with KB? Did he return the $1,000 to you that he made by selling you the list? Why would you bother spending $17,000 for a list from KB when he didn't tell you all the details? I thought you were too smart to bother with a list.

I have known many webmasters who have spent large amounts of money for lists. I have never known one who benefited from them. Anybody have good results from spamming email lists? What results would be viewed as a success?

Forest, what is your email address? I have ICQ, but I really don't like it.

[confucy]

Forest, before I forget, here is one of my favorite pictures of you. Looking for what???? http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/m...oees/z03676.htm (http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/miami03/joees/z03676.htm)

I heard your party was great. But next time, hire a caterer or spruce up the table. This looks a little grim! Need some flowers, pretty platters, and a tablecloth. http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/m...arty/z00118.htm (http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/miami03/neverendparty/z00118.htm)

Too bad Brad wasn't there to keep you company.

[LeeNoga]

No way are to many people going to talk about "purchasing" lists Confucy because they do not want folks to think they spam..problem is spam still works and it takes some sophistication to run this operation.

If I were buying a list how could somebody prove to me they were double opt in vs stolen or harvested etc....

Very risky business to say the least but if done right it can be quite $$$$$$ profitable.

[LeeNoga]

I see Brad is over on the other board gathering the audience, he is going in for another round, and I have to admit the first Round where he gave up the list was some of the best drama in a long time.

Here comes the sequel, and lets see if Brad can hit a home run again. He has over 300 views anticipating the launch.

Something about drama that builds community :-)

[Forest]

confucy

no money for catering. I had planned to but the sponsor cut the funding...
Thats the buisiness these days But some of my friends pitched in Evi, Dave and my girls and really did a GREAT job

The BEST compliment I received was from ulfie who campaired it to one of mike ai's parties and those are Legendary!!!!


Lee

any idea why bradley isnt posting in this thread?

Does he find playing with High schoolers more fun you think?

[gonzo]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 08:09 AM
Forest, before I forget, here is one of my favorite pictures of you. Looking for what???? http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/m...oees/z03676.htm (http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/miami03/joees/z03676.htm)

I heard your party was great. But next time, hire a caterer or spruce up the table. This looks a little grim! Need some flowers, pretty platters, and a tablecloth. http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/m...arty/z00118.htm (http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/miami03/neverendparty/z00118.htm)

Too bad Brad wasn't there to keep you company.
The tin plates were to provide belly wadding for the open bar he had running he entire day and night.

It also served as a distraction for wine thieves.

[confucy]

forest, it's a numbers game! Lensman said that all his friends tell him that the first thing they do is read GFY with their morning coffee. It's the kids who keep GFY going. Along with the brats come the numbers every board owner wants.

Example: D$ & KB with their pimp bullshit! Aren't they a little long in the tooth for the rapper snapper crap! GFY is perfect for them to push over-the-hill rappers for the Players Ball.

Affiliate programs: the college kids with no money participate heavily in these, so FM, JoeE, Lightspeed, and even Mike with his new program go to GFY to push their new products.

threads that are juvenile & boring: GFY takes the cake!

Stupid fights: Amputate and his followers make up stuff. They have become experts at inciting riots!

There are a few big names whom I use to respect that seem to have found a home on GFY. In my mind, they are making fools of themselves, and I no longer admire them, just pity them. Too bad that several are women.

:gbounce:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 10:01 AM
forest, it's a numbers game! Lensman said that all his friends tell him that the first thing they do is read GFY with their morning coffee. It's the kids who keep GFY going. Along with the brats come the numbers every board owner wants.

Example: D$ & KB with their pimp bullshit! Aren't they a little long in the tooth for the rapper snapper crap! GFY is perfect for them to push over-the-hill rappers for the Players Ball.

Affiliate programs: the college kids with no money participate heavily in these, so FM, JoeE, Lightspeed, and even Mike with his new program go to GFY to push their new products.

threads that are juvenile & boring: GFY takes the cake!

Stupid fights: Amputate and his followers make up stuff. They have become experts at inciting riots!

There are a few big names whom I use to respect that seem to have found a home on GFY. In my mind, they are making fools of themselves, and I no longer admire them, just pity them. Too bad that several are women.

:gbounce:
Thats right and to boot Persian Kitty is on GG&J's...

[Forest]

Originally posted by gonzo@Aug 19 2003, 12:50 PM
The tin plates were to provide belly wadding for the open bar he had running he entire day and night.

It also served as a distraction for wine thieves.
The Stealers The Stealers ( in best evi french accent)

Serge LOVE that accent of hers

AND her boobs

:biglaugh:

[confucy]

Oh Wow! How smug can you get! Brad is acting like King Lensman. He starts threads with no substance and then walks away. (GFY)

I wonder how much Lensman is paying him? I can't tell the difference between those two. Gigantic egos and so-so PR skills. Did they make good choices in selecting talented webmasters who can carry the ball? What skills do these guys have? Anyone can have big cars and big houses for a few dollars, but they may have nothing in the bank.

[Forest]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 01:47 PM
Oh Wow! How smug can you get! Brad is acting like King Lensman. He starts threads with no substance and then walks away. (GFY)

I wonder how much Lensman is paying him? I can't tell the difference between those two. Gigantic egos and so-so PR skills. Did they make good choices in selecting talented webmasters who can carry the ball? What skills do these guys have? Anyone can have big cars and big houses for a few dollars, but they may have nothing in the bank.
confucy

he needs to sell alot of content

marriage costs alot i guess

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Forest+Aug 19 2003, 10:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Aug 19 2003, 10:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Aug 19 2003, 01:47 PM
Oh Wow! How smug can you get! Brad is acting like King Lensman. He starts threads with no substance and then walks away. (GFY)

I wonder how much Lensman is paying him? I can't tell the difference between those two. Gigantic egos and so-so PR skills. Did they make good choices in selecting talented webmasters who can carry the ball? What skills do these guys have? Anyone can have big cars and big houses for a few dollars, but they may have nothing in the bank.
confucy

he needs to sell alot of content

marriage costs alot i guess[/b][/quote]
Is this where we all get called midbees again?

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 19 2003, 09:38 AM
Lee

any idea why bradley isnt posting in this thread?

Does he find playing with High schoolers more fun you think?
Brad has to be in control and does things when he wants and not when the situation calls for it I suppose. He participates in those threads of interest to him and the KB List apparently bores him and he is already plottting his next pain session.

Thats my guess. He is reading tho! THAT I guarentee.

Confucy, what women have gone to hell in a hand basket for posting on GFY?

Besides myself of course :-) Its not my choice tho.

[Forest]

Originally posted by LeeNoga+Aug 19 2003, 02:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LeeNoga @ Aug 19 2003, 02:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 19 2003, 09:38 AM
Lee

any idea why bradley isnt posting in this thread?

Does he find playing with High schoolers more fun you think?
Brad has to be in control and does things when he wants and not when the situation calls for it I suppose. He participates in those threads of interest to him and the KB List apparently bores him and he is already plottting his next pain session.

Thats my guess. He is reading tho! THAT I guarentee.

Confucy, what women have gone to hell in a hand basket for posting on GFY?

Besides myself of course :-) Its not my choice tho.[/b][/quote]
he is usually so out spoken and Doesnt give a shit...

I guess his silence means he gives a shit

[confucy]

Lee, it is much easier for me to attack men. They usually don't know how to fight women with words. They eventually resort to WHORE, BITCH, CUNT, and then decide to call you a MAN or LESBIAN. No matter what men say when fighting females, they come out looking like losers.

I try *not* to attack women. Of course, there is one exception...Carrie. She took her comments to a personal level off the boards to get in good with Netpond. I haven't forgiven her. The other women I think are jokes, besides myself, will remain nameless.

Lee, do you think there should be a retirement age for porn women who work behind the scenes? I look at Asia, and she is in her prime at 30. Her body is toned, and the only mistake she made was getting implants. Without makeup, she looks 17, and she is in front of the camera and wants to retire. Al Goldstein and Larry Flynt are old and ugly, but they still plug along and are admired by the porn community.

Pilots must retire at a certain age. I don't like seeing women who are old enough to be my grandmother selling porn and sitting at booths at Internext. Sorry, really got off the subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BradShaw]

Been at Bass Pro Shops all day, if you have ever been to one, sure you understand. Greg and I have a bass fishing trip, tomorrow am at 5.

[BradShaw]

"I guess his silence means he gives a shit"

Forest, I do not give a shit about your opinion. I can not make a dime off your ass.

As for the KB stuff, there is alot going on behind the scenes that I can not comment on at the moment.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 19 2003, 03:56 PM
Been at Bass Pro Shops all day, if you have ever been to one, sure you understand. Greg and I have a bass fishing trip, tomorrow am at 5.
OMG - fishing bores me to tears if I have to wait more than 1/2 an hour to catch anything, but the Bass Pro Shop is a BLAST! :rokk:

[JFK]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 17 2003, 05:39 PM
I missed Brad when he took his break from the boards. He grew up while he was away. He came back a very funny man. Lensman refuses to accept responsibility for the threads he removes on GFY. Lensman, or one of his gofers, took down the pictures that Brad Shaw bought for $50 of Easton (alledgedly doing coke). Then Brad supplied the controversial mailing list which KB sold him. I think it is quite acceptable to bring your dirty laundry to the boards if you have tried in good faith to resolve the issue to no avail in person or off the boards.

There is an idiot by the name of *Joe* from The Gallery People who ripped off many webmasters by refusing to refund money on work he didn't do. It's a pretty interesting thread. Some of you may know this cheating webmaster. His customers were very patient for months, and now they are telling their stories. http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showth...30&pagenumber=1 (http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2693&perpage=30&pagenumber=1)
The Pictures that Shaw Bought , were taken and owned by me, and stolen off my server, and had my copyright on them ! It is pretty ironic that a guy who produces content would induce someone to do such a thing! Then he had the nerve to question my ownership of them ! I wonder how he would react if his content was stolen and sold ?

[confucy]

JFK, if this is your attempt at a *show*, forget it! Brad bought those pictures from the first person who came up with them because you censored them and took them down. Brad was trying to make a point.

You, Mr. FUBAR, have no right to get your ass in an uproar. You know damn well, that we all download pictures you take at the events. If we didn't pay any attention to you and your pictures, you would be on welfare. I, for one, wanted to see the Easton pictures. Brad made it possible for all of us to see your pictures. So why the bitching? Brad gave you advertising that you would never have gotten otherwise.

Now, take your camera and go back to picture taking. You can't handle yourself on the boards. :redance:

[BradShaw]

JFK, call forest and you guys can throw a pity party for each other. You guys bring the whine, I will send some cheese!

BTW, please remove any photos of me on your site, I do not believe I gave you such permission to post my likeness. This will be your only warning.

[JFK]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 12:07 PM
JFK, if this is your attempt at a *show*, forget it! Brad bought those pictures from the first person who came up with them because you censored them and took them down. Brad was trying to make a point.

You, Mr. FUBAR, have no right to get your ass in an uproar. You know damn well, that we all download pictures you take at the events. If we didn't pay any attention to you and your pictures, you would be on welfare. I, for one, wanted to see the Easton pictures. Brad made it possible for all of us to see your pictures. So why the bitching? Brad gave you advertising that you would never have gotten otherwise.

Now, take your camera and go back to picture taking. You can't handle yourself on the boards. :redance:
I did not want any advertising of this kind from Brad ! You are getting your nickers in a knot over something that is none of your business really ! Besides just because I am not a keyboard warrior, dosent mean that I am a welfare case, or do not know how to handle my self on a board !

[confucy]

JFK, look at the number of your posts here and on GFY. What does it take to become a *keyboard warrier*...number of posts says you are no stranger to the boards.

When you post your url's and your pictures on the boards, you become *my* business and everyone's business who sees your posts. I think you are taking the Easton picture buying spree a little too seriously. If someone wants to do drugs in public, then I don't want to do business with them. I think your pictures do a service for the porn industry at times because you show us with one click of your camera those who are professionals and those who are jerks.

And you are wrong! You get a whole lot of attention every time your name is mentioned on the boards and your pictures are shown, whether it is because of Brad Shaw or Mrs. Fubar.

[Winetalk.com]

confucy,
would you mind to use smaller pic in your sig?

(I MIGHT concider marrying you, will you move to Utah with us?
;-)))

[confucy]

Serge, when I got the confucy name back, the animal came with it. I haven't been able to delete it. Want to help me out? I would prefer a house in New Mexico.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 19 2003, 12:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 19 2003, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Aug 19 2003, 03:56 PM
Been at Bass Pro Shops all day, if you have ever been to one, sure you understand. Greg and I have a bass fishing trip, tomorrow am at 5.
OMG - fishing bores me to tears if I have to wait more than 1/2 an hour to catch anything, but the Bass Pro Shop is a BLAST! :rokk:[/b][/quote]
I dont know Peaches. I think watching the online "fishing" is pretty damn entertaining. You always can get the back story round these parts.

Pop me some corn! I got a feeling its going to be a long weekend.

[JFK]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 19 2003, 12:24 PM
JFK, call forest and you guys can throw a pity party for each other. You guys bring the whine, I will send some cheese!

BTW, please remove any photos of me on your site, I do not believe I gave you such permission to post my likeness. This will be your only warning.
No Problem sir, please send me the appropriate picture #'s and they shall be removed! Btw When You attend a convention next time, please take a look at the sign by the door , stating that you may be photographed or video taped and you enter the premises with that understanding. ps what kind of cheese ?? I want to make sure to get the appropriate WHINE

[Forest]

Originally posted by gonzo@Aug 19 2003, 04:06 PM
Pop me some corn! I got a feeling its going to be a long weekend.
I just wanted to finally get a rise out of bradley

Looks like i was succesful

:lol: :P

Im off to vegas in the am then to serges on friday then back on weds

Brad

have fun fishing tommorow

any number on the roulette table you wish me to play for you?

17 maybe?

[Forest]

Originally posted by JFK@Aug 19 2003, 04:07 PM
I want to make sure to get the appropriate WHINE
JFK

as bradley like to fish may I suggest a good chardonay???

:okthumb: :salute:

Sonoma of course

:wnw: :hic:

[JFK]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 12:34 PM
JFK, look at the number of your posts here and on GFY. What does it take to become a *keyboard warrier*...number of posts says you are no stranger to the boards.

When you post your url's and your pictures on the boards, you become *my* business and everyone's business who sees your posts. I think you are taking the Easton picture buying spree a little too seriously. If someone wants to do drugs in public, then I don't want to do business with them. I think your pictures do a service for the porn industry at times because you show us with one click of your camera those who are professionals and those who are jerks.

And you are wrong! You get a whole lot of attention every time your name is mentioned on the boards and your pictures are shown, whether it is because of Brad Shaw or Mrs. Fubar.
Yes I am no stranger to the boards, nor am I a newbie, been doing this since 99 for what it matters. I am there for business, not to shit on people. What I strenuously object to, is some one crucifying another just for gamesmanship, using photos taken by me. This is NOT what the intent or function of FUBAR is. We remove photos on request all the time, whether it is an uncomplementary shot , or the person just dosent want to be seen as associated with the porn industry.These photos were requested to be removed. After being on there for months, if you were that interested you could have seen them during that time. What would you do if the situation was reversed and you were on the receiving end of one of these vendettas ?

[confucy]

JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn. My training was in ham radio. It might sound strange, but there are x-rated repeaters in Southern California where the battles on the radio frequencies are 100 times more brutal than on porn boards. Almost all the users are males...like 95% or more. They are insulting, abusive, and totally obnoxious. I learned how to deal with them.

The same applies to the boards. Most of the time, it is a game. Those who take everything they read to heart are going to be miserable. I have nothing against you, but I will say what is on my mind. I thought you overreacted regarding the Easton pictures. I know you are thinking about your rights as a businessman. You must do what you think is best for yourself and your business.

Your pictures are appreciated by many...including me.

CLICK CLICK, JFK. Hope you are healing quickly from your accident. :okthumb:

**By the way, I have been on the receiving end since the day I started using the *confucy* name. What would I do in your case??? I would handle it like a gentleman since your work is involved. I would keep a sense of humor and kick some ass! I don't have the time to look at all 4000 or 1,000,000 pictures you have posted. I didn't know who Easton was until I read about him on Brad's thread. I visit many boards and look at many pictures each day.

[JFK]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 02:19 PM
JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn. My training was in ham radio. It might sound strange, but there are x-rated repeaters in Southern California where the battles on the radio frequencies are 100 times more brutal than on porn boards. Almost all the users are males...like 95% or more. They are insulting, abusive, and totally obnoxious. I learned how to deal with them.

The same applies to the boards. Most of the time, it is a game. Those who take everything they read to heart are going to be miserable. I have nothing against you, but I will say what is on my mind. I thought you overreacted regarding the Easton pictures. I know you are thinking about your rights as a businessman. You must do what you think is best for yourself and your business.

Your pictures are appreciated by many...including me.

CLICK CLICK, JFK. Hope you are healing quickly from your accident. :okthumb:

**By the way, I have been on the receiving end since the day I started using the *confucy* name. What would I do in your case??? I would handle it like a gentleman since your work is involved. I would keep a sense of humor and kick some ass! I don't have the time to look at all 4000 or 1,000,000 pictures you have posted. I didn't know who Easton was until I read about him on Brad's thread. I visit many boards and look at many pictures each day.
Confucy Thanks B)

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 11:54 AM
Lee, do you think there should be a retirement age for porn women who work behind the scenes?

Pilots must retire at a certain age. I don't like seeing women who are old enough to be my grandmother selling porn and sitting at booths at Internext.

Welp Confucy, thats a tough question. I am all for people doing what they love for as long as they can do it for.

However, when I was exhibiting in 1993-1994 [CD-ROMS], seeing Kitty fox who is OLD OLD OLD wearing red/white/blue sequined Daisy duke shorts and a bikini top gave me nightmares, she is the Queen of anal I believe, and she looked like she was nearly 60 yo, legimately. To me that did not sit right.

Look at Suze Randall [photographer], she is a senior and she plays behind the scenes still.

I think age is over rated :-)



Last edited by LeeNoga at Aug 19 2003, 03:08 PM

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 02:19 PM
JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn.

Lee at age 23, Hospital Corpsman Petty Officer Second Class:

http://www.leenoga.com/pix/Leenavy.jpg

[gregtx]

Lee.. I didn't know you liked Seamen? :D


btw.. going fishin in the morning... I'll try to get pics to post :-)



Last edited by gregtx at Aug 19 2003, 03:23 PM

[confucy]

Love that picture!

Lee, you look so innocent. I would have known from that sweet look on your face that you would end up being Sister Lee.

Also, JFK, look!!!! No logo's or ad's on Lee's picture. I know you have to do it for business reasons, but your pictures would be so great if they were a little larger and logo free.

[JFK]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 03:28 PM
Love that picture!

Lee, you look so innocent. I would have known from that sweet look on your face that you would end up being Sister Lee.

Also, JFK, look!!!! No logo's or ad's on Lee's picture. I know you have to do it for business reasons, but your pictures would be so great if they were a little larger and logo free.
I would love to, but those little logos pay for my travels ! So at this time it is not possible. However If there is a picture of you, I would love to send it logo free. As for the size , people have short attention spans, the pics are the size so they load as fast as possible, as I have said before, you can always click and enlarge ! Thanks J

[JFK]

And Mr Brad Shaw, instead of getting your pic removed ,(for which you have posed with Shaw Cutie) and being adversarial ,you should consider advertising with us ! Might help you get even richer, and people would say Look he's helping a "Never Been" :okthumb:

[confucy]

JFK, that wouldn't surprise me one bit if I see Brad Shaw in the corner of your pictures. One second webmasters are arguing and you think they hate each other, and you take a second look and they are having lunch. I think of the boards as a place to get rid of your pent-up emotions so you don't have to pay $200 an hour for therapy.

But seriously, the only time I really don't mind real-life battles here is when someone is cheating webmasters, and the info is given to us so we can protect ourselves. Those individuals need to be exposed.

[Anthony]

Originally posted by LeeNoga+Aug 19 2003, 03:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LeeNoga @ Aug 19 2003, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Aug 19 2003, 02:19 PM
JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn.

Lee at age 23, Hospital Corpsman Petty Officer Second Class:

http://www.leenoga.com/pix/Leenavy.jpg[/b][/quote]
Woohoo Lee!

Ahoy Shipmate! Cryptological Technician "R" Petty Officer Third Class here!

[LeeNoga]

Ant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahoy Shipmate!

You should remember that red rope, I was helping push recruits and temporarily assigned to work as a company commander in Fla in 1980. You know the type, had metal taps on the bottom of my shoes and kicked trashcans and scared the crap out of recruits, shut the door and laughed about it.

Navy was good to me, hell I gave them nearly 10 years :-) Went in at 18 can came out and went back in within 9 months for a second tour, and extended once.

[Anthony]

Lee,

Oh yesssss I do! You female Company Commanders scared me the most. Always one step away from violence!!! LOL, that brings back memories. I don't think I've ever been cowed so badly by a 100lbs woman other than my mother!

You know what though? I can't believe I was such a conformist when I was younger. My 4 years, almost made it a career, if not for the end of the Cold War and all the Intelligence Billets dissappeared. Who would have thunk it, eh? :D

[cj]

Originally posted by confucy@Aug 19 2003, 05:19 PM
JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn. My training was in ham radio. It might sound strange, but there are x-rated repeaters in Southern California where the battles on the radio frequencies are 100 times more brutal than on porn boards. Almost all the users are males...like 95% or more. They are insulting, abusive, and totally obnoxious. I learned how to deal with them.

The same applies to the boards. Most of the time, it is a game. Those who take everything they read to heart are going to be miserable. I have nothing against you, but I will say what is on my mind. I thought you overreacted regarding the Easton pictures. I know you are thinking about your rights as a businessman. You must do what you think is best for yourself and your business.

Your pictures are appreciated by many...including me.

CLICK CLICK, JFK. Hope you are healing quickly from your accident. :okthumb:

**By the way, I have been on the receiving end since the day I started using the *confucy* name. What would I do in your case??? I would handle it like a gentleman since your work is involved. I would keep a sense of humor and kick some ass! I don't have the time to look at all 4000 or 1,000,000 pictures you have posted. I didn't know who Easton was until I read about him on Brad's thread. I visit many boards and look at many pictures each day.
confucy, wow.

:wnw:

couple of nice pearls in there! especially paragraph 2!

[Mike AI]

Yeah Confucy has been on fire lately....

Some thoughtful posts!

:okthumb:

[Timon]

Originally posted by cj+Aug 19 2003, 10:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Aug 19 2003, 10:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--confucy@Aug 19 2003, 05:19 PM
JFK, Lee Noga was in the Navy. She learned how to protect herself before she entered porn. My training was in ham radio. It might sound strange, but there are x-rated repeaters in Southern California where the battles on the radio frequencies are 100 times more brutal than on porn boards. Almost all the users are males...like 95% or more. They are insulting, abusive, and totally obnoxious. I learned how to deal with them.

The same applies to the boards. Most of the time, it is a game. Those who take everything they read to heart are going to be miserable. I have nothing against you, but I will say what is on my mind. I thought you overreacted regarding the Easton pictures. I know you are thinking about your rights as a businessman. You must do what you think is best for yourself and your business.

Your pictures are appreciated by many...including me.

CLICK CLICK, JFK. Hope you are healing quickly from your accident. :okthumb:

**By the way, I have been on the receiving end since the day I started using the *confucy* name. What would I do in your case??? I would handle it like a gentleman since your work is involved. I would keep a sense of humor and kick some ass! I don't have the time to look at all 4000 or 1,000,000 pictures you have posted. I didn't know who Easton was until I read about him on Brad's thread. I visit many boards and look at many pictures each day.
confucy, wow.

:wnw:

couple of nice pearls in there! especially paragraph 2![/b][/quote]
really??

Damn, maybe one day I too will have the attention span to read something THAT long...

[Hooper]

OMG - fishing bores me to tears if I have to wait more than 1/2 an hour to catch anythin

You just need to bring more beer. Fishing is 99% about beer. At least for me it is :)

[Timon]

Originally posted by Hooper@Aug 19 2003, 11:58 PM
OMG - fishing bores me to tears if I have to wait more than 1/2 an hour to catch anythin

You just need to bring more beer. Fishing is 99% about beer. At least for me it is :)
Or bring more dynamite, fishing is 99% about tossing bombs into the water, but it is indeed more fun when you're drunk ;-)