Any Fitness folks out there

[hghpaysbig]

I am curios any webmasters out there familiar with Human Growth Hormone the real stuff not the spray

[Winetalk.com]

fitness freaks on Oprano???

uh-uh-uh!
;-)))

[dantheman]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 12 2003, 01:42 PM
I am curios any webmasters out there familiar with Human Growth Hormone the real stuff not the spray
YO anthony, this question is yours :)

[Anthony]

I've never used HgH, though I've known quite a few guys that did. Approx between 10 to 15 IU's a week. At least that's what they told me, probably more.

Real HgH, bodybuilders will snap up like candy.

[hghpaysbig]

Anthony u r right but also anti aging people or longevity people love!!

I take HGH and It really is a miracle drug

[Anthony]

Yeah, I've read good anti ageing stuff about it. Something worthwhile, eh?

[Peaches]

Human Growth Hormone - will it make me taller? :P

[ulfie]

I would be extremely cautious about taking something like that without a doctor supervising it. One of my best friends daughters wasn't growing and the doctors put her on hgh and she is now a normal sized child for her age. The key being it was supervised for doctors and they monitored it constantly. Self prescribing drugs is dangerous and not something I would recommend to anyone. Just my thoughts though. Beer is my drug of choice so I guess I self-medicate myself also.

[hghpaysbig]

The product that I sell requires a doctors perscription and a IGf-1 test you need to be aware of what you put in your body and not abuse any substance
That being said many people have had great results with hgh and i am not aware of any complications with the brand that we sell.

Beer is good too! :hic:

[LittleC]

My Hubby uses it & it is good for the mind & body.

he works out & I must say the hormon does well for our private life too...hehehe

[wig]

Yeah, Lyle Alzado used it as well. :blink:

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by wig@Aug 12 2003, 01:24 PM
Yeah, Lyle Alzado used it as well. :blink:
OOOHHHH Wig a flippant comment or a show of ignorance?,
Lyle Alzados untimely death and HGH where how and why do you put them together Lyle admited to using steroids (HGH IS NOT A STERIOD)
Lyle passed in 1987 (I MIGHT BE OFF BY A YEAR OR TWO) Bioengineered HGH was not available till 1990 there were other forms but not the type that is used today

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 12 2003, 01:18 PM
My Hubby uses it & it is good for the mind & body.

he works out & I must say the hormon does well for our private life too...hehehe
Out of curiosity can you tell me does he use injectable or a spray?

[cj]

so you started a thread asking questions about hgh, so you can plug your product?

think 'discreet' when spamming webmasters :okthumb:

[JR]

Originally posted by cj@Aug 12 2003, 04:55 PM
so you started a thread asking questions about hgh, so you can plug your product?

think 'discreet' when spamming webmasters :okthumb:
it looks like he stole the graphics on his site from a photoshop tutorial site. :( it was originally done in flash... you can see how the original version opened up (the part where he put the picture of the warrior)

it was taken from what used to be the main page of this site http://www.phong.com/tutorials/



Last edited by JR at Aug 13 2003, 12:26 AM

[Timon]

AFAIK HGH is not an anabolic and will do little to bulk you up faster in the gym.

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon@Aug 13 2003, 01:15 AM
AFAIK HGH is not an anabolic and will do little to bulk you up faster in the gym.
What is AFAIK?

And thats true if you arer looking for a pump or to get "huge" HGH is not for that alom\ne all though many body builders stack it with anabolics I personally think its best use is as a anti aging drug.

CJ, I must say that my checking the boards to see what the internet marketing community knows about the product I sell is not only smart business but common sense. I saw your program and it seems you have grown and done some changing over the years. Would it be a stretch to think that some of your changes have been from conversations you have had with your peers? I think your site design for your program is original and I am sure your sites convert. Do you use traditional marketing methods? If not how did you find out what would work for you?
Just wondering

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by JR+Aug 13 2003, 12:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Aug 13 2003, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Aug 12 2003, 04:55 PM
so you started a thread asking questions about hgh, so you can plug your product?

think 'discreet' when spamming webmasters :okthumb:
it looks like he stole the graphics on his site from a photoshop tutorial site. :( it was originally done in flash... you can see how the original version opened up (the part where he put the picture of the warrior)

it was taken from what used to be the main page of this site http://www.phong.com/tutorials/[/b][/quote]
First
I DONT STEAL LIE CHEAT---------------
Second I have designers who do my work and yes I am not happy or done with that site but it is there////// my bad

[Peaches]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 13 2003, 03:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 13 2003, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 13 2003, 01:15 AM
AFAIK HGH is not an anabolic and will do little to bulk you up faster in the gym.
What is AFAIK?[/b][/quote]
As Far As I Know

[wig]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 12 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 12 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Aug 12 2003, 01:24 PM
Yeah, Lyle Alzado used it as well. :blink:
OOOHHHH Wig a flippant comment or a show of ignorance?,
[/b][/quote]
Probably both. :o

But, thanks for clearing everything up for me. I'll take 50lbs!

Can I pay by check? :P

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by wig+Aug 13 2003, 12:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Aug 13 2003, 12:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 12 2003, 06:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--wig@Aug 12 2003, 01:24 PM
Yeah, Lyle Alzado used it as well. :blink:
OOOHHHH Wig a flippant comment or a show of ignorance?,

Probably both. :o

But, thanks for clearing everything up for me. I'll take 50lbs!

Can I pay by check? :P[/b][/quote]
LOL


Just pay me when you get it!

[cj]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 02:22 PM
CJ, I must say that my checking the boards to see what the internet marketing community knows about the product I sell is not only smart business but common sense. I saw your program and it seems you have grown and done some changing over the years. Would it be a stretch to think that some of your changes have been from conversations you have had with your peers? I think your site design for your program is original and I am sure your sites convert. Do you use traditional marketing methods? If not how did you find out what would work for you?
Just wondering
I could tell you .... but i'd have to :ph34r:

never mind

fitness freaks on Oprano???

uh-uh-uh!
;-)))


speak for yourself!! :P

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 02:22 PM
What is AFAIK?
Arabs For An Independent Karbala

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 02:22 PM
And thats true if you arer looking for a pump or to get "huge" HGH is not for that alom\ne all though many body builders stack it with anabolics I personally think its best use is as a anti aging drug.

So then what's the connection between fitness and HGH?

ARE YOU TRYING TO MISLEAD US VULNERABLE OPRANAUTS!!!???

[Timon]

Originally posted by cj@Aug 13 2003, 07:10 PM
I could tell you .... but i'd have to :ph34r:

never mind


Yep, she'd have to marry you, so keep digging ;-))

[JR]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 13 2003, 11:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 13 2003, 11:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -JR@Aug 13 2003, 12:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--cj@Aug 12 2003, 04:55 PM
so you started a thread asking questions about hgh, so you can plug your product?

think 'discreet' when spamming webmasters :okthumb:
it looks like he stole the graphics on his site from a photoshop tutorial site. :( it was originally done in flash... you can see how the original version opened up (the part where he put the picture of the warrior)

it was taken from what used to be the main page of this site http://www.phong.com/tutorials/
First
I DONT STEAL LIE CHEAT---------------
Second I have designers who do my work and yes I am not happy or done with that site but it is there////// my bad[/b][/quote]

hahha... the "my designer went rogue and i am not happy about it" routine - its been done to death in porn, but in my opinion, IT IS a classic.
:okthumb:

[slavdogg]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 13 2003, 02:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 13 2003, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 03:22 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 13 2003, 01:15 AM
AFAIK HGH is not an anabolic and will do little to bulk you up faster in the gym.
What is AFAIK?
As Far As I Know[/b][/quote]
what ?
peaches did you and timon invent this one ?

[Timon]

Originally posted by slavdogg@Aug 14 2003, 03:57 AM

peaches did you and timon invent this one ?
no just me

[Peaches]

Originally posted by slavdogg@Aug 14 2003, 04:57 AM
what ?
peaches did you and timon invent this one ?
Timon is wrong - I invented mine. I'm clever like that! I also invented "BTW", "FYI", "IIRC", and the popular AOL (another "Acronym by Peaches....) "BRB".

I'm in the process of working with Acacia and filing patent infringement lawsuits against ALL of you. Expect your packages soon! B)

[Timon]

Originally posted by Peaches@Aug 14 2003, 08:56 AM
I'm in the process of working with Acacia and filing patent infringement lawsuits against ALL of you. Expect your packages soon! B)
Peaches I patented this one: SMDB

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Timon@Aug 14 2003, 10:18 AM
Peaches I patented this one: SMDB
I'll bite.....

[wig]

suck my dick bitch?

[voodooman]

Originally posted by wig@Aug 14 2003, 09:38 AM
suck my dick bitch?
Poor Peaches.

:P

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by JR+Aug 13 2003, 10:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Aug 13 2003, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by -JR@Aug 13 2003, 12:21 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--cj@Aug 12 2003, 04:55 PM
so you started a thread asking questions about hgh, so you can plug your product?

think 'discreet' when spamming webmasters :okthumb:
it looks like he stole the graphics on his site from a photoshop tutorial site. :( it was originally done in flash... you can see how the original version opened up (the part where he put the picture of the warrior)

it was taken from what used to be the main page of this site http://www.phong.com/tutorials/
First
I DONT STEAL LIE CHEAT---------------
Second I have designers who do my work and yes I am not happy or done with that site but it is there////// my bad

hahha... the "my designer went rogue and i am not happy about it" routine - its been done to death in porn, but in my opinion, IT IS a classic.
:okthumb:[/b][/quote]
I will have a redesign here shortly!!!! jeesh what a cynic!

[Peaches]

Originally posted by wig@Aug 14 2003, 11:38 AM
suck my dick bitch?
I think it must be SEVER my dick bitch. B)

Poor Peaches.

And here I thought Wig was my friend! :P

[wig]

Hey now... Timon patented it, not me. :D

[ulfie]

SMDB = Show Me Da Bling I know my wigger speak. :D

[hghpaysbig]

YSMF

[Timon]

hghpaysbig: GAYFA!

[hghpaysbig]

Timon=GAYFA I'm stumped

[Forest]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 15 2003, 12:37 PM
Timon=GAYFA I'm stumped
hehe seems we have a new newbie to play with

:okthumb:

[Cleo]

Originally posted by Peaches@Aug 12 2003, 02:54 PM
Human Growth Hormone - will it make me taller? :P
Yeah that is what I need, to grow even taller…

Just watch out for the seven foot bitch from south Florida.
:gbounce:

[Forest]

Originally posted by Cleo+Aug 16 2003, 07:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cleo @ Aug 16 2003, 07:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Aug 12 2003, 02:54 PM
Human Growth Hormone - will it make me taller? :P
Yeah that is what I need, to grow even taller…

Just watch out for the seven foot bitch from south Florida.
:gbounce:[/b][/quote]
:rokk:

was great to see u at the show


you look maaaarrrrrrrvvvvaaalllooouuussssss darling



:okthumb:

[Cleo]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:07 AM
was great to see u at the show


you look maaaarrrrrrrvvvvaaalllooouuussssss darling
It was nice seeing you too Forest even if you did go around molesting the passed out,
http://cleoslinks.com/show/day-two/pages/f...ing-passout.htm (http://cleoslinks.com/show/day-two/pages/forest-molesting-passout.htm)

[Forest]

Originally posted by Cleo+Aug 16 2003, 07:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cleo @ Aug 16 2003, 07:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 16 2003, 07:07 AM
was great to see u at the show


you look maaaarrrrrrrvvvvaaalllooouuussssss darling
It was nice seeing you too Forest even if you did go around molesting the passed out,
http://cleoslinks.com/show/day-two/pages/f...ing-passout.htm (http://cleoslinks.com/show/day-two/pages/forest-molesting-passout.htm)[/b][/quote]
CLASSIC!!!!!

that was sooo funny

1/2 the lobby was watching that

:wnw: :okthumb: :hic: :stout:

[Soul_Rebel]

few things about hgh

it's not anabolic,it's very expensive, it's not easy to get prescription in most countries,it can do miracles and it's mostly combined with steroid cycles by bodybuilders. The only HGH that has real results is the injectable. All the rest are products will minor results,not real HGH, but they contain ingredients that help your body to produce more hormones, this is the reason they come at 1/100th of the cost.

I've seen a couple sites claiming to sell HGH like humatropin and somatropin, but I'm not sure if they do send you the products or just scam you. From what I rememberHGH must be kept at very low temp. and this makes harder to transfer it. I've seen the results of it on pro bodybuilders. Although how your body reacts to HGH plays important role, in average the results are incredible (if you can keep up with the cost) and permanent. If you suffer with thyroid problems you shouldn't even think of using it.

of course your doctor has the 1st word on such things
:)



Last edited by Soul_Rebel at Aug 16 2003, 11:09 PM

[Forest]

Is this legal in the states to sell and ship this way????

"From what I rememberHGH must be kept at very low temp. and this makes harder to transfer it."

where is it shipped from? How is it shipped if it need to be maintained at a certain temp (especially to hot states)

"(if you can keep up with the cost)"

if you stop taking it does it act like other steriods and just start to loose muscle and mass? (i dont know anything about steroids never used them)

Health risks associated with other steriods? Tumors, imputance, increased aggresion.

where are the doctors located?

The pay outs are great and I have an exceptional forum for this product (about 760k mebember) that will cross sell verry well. What are your current conversion ratios?

But ive been down the online pharmacy road and congress shut down that one ( i dont like to mess around with the feds) and this sounds like a similar ending.

[Soul_Rebel]

"Is this legal in the states to sell and ship this way????"


You need prescription for sure. This goes for all countries. In states it is usually under the category of anti-aging therapy.


"where is it shipped from? How is it shipped if it need to be maintained at a certain temp (especially to hot states)"

I don't know a lot of details about it. There are only few drug labs that produce synthetic HGH since the market for it is small. Most of them are located in Europe. Till few years ago you could find in the black market cheap Russian non synthetic HGH (which was coming from animals!) and due to various dangers for diseases it was banned. Like Steroids, if you can't be 100% sure for the source it's better not to purchase anything since the percentage of fake drugs is extremely high. Most of steroids sold in the blackmarket are fake. This goes for HGH as well.


"if you stop taking it does it act like other steriods and just start to loose muscle and mass? (i dont know anything about steroids never used them)"

No, the results of HGH are permanent and cannot be traced with antidoping control tests. That's why the steroids Guru, Daniel Duchaine had called HGH as God's miracle in his book a decade ago. I translated this book in my native lang. and it had a paragraph about Ben Johnson, the canadian sprinter that lost his olympic medal due to anabolic use. Ben Johnson bought a period before the olympics some bottles that were supposed to have HGH. In reality the bottles didn't have HGH,but another anabolic that works only on the female body. That drug was found in his blood and that drug didn't help him to win the medal of 100m running. He won the race due to his own increadible performance. The drug was useless....... Now near all olympic athletes make use of HGH and dozens of other anabolics.

A primary chracteristic of HGH is that it reduces the body fat levels.
Also it increases the amount of muscle cells, unlike all other kind of drugs like steroids that temp. increase the size of your cells. That's why pro bodybuilders use both. More and bigger muscle cells. There is a small fear that it might lead to cancer cases. So far though there's no scientific proof that the use of HGH means higher possibility of cancer and this is after many decades of research.

I haven't used any steroids myself as well,but I would consider HGH after few years. In the middle 20's the human body produces less growth hormone and this results at a high level on getting old. The older you are, the better results you'll see with HGH. I think for someone that can afford it and it's 40y.old+ (Serge??) it's a good deal to visit a doctor and request to start an anti aging therapy after doing all the proper medical tests.

[Forest]

Great Post soul

Thanx

Now i just need to know about legalities of marketing/sell this program to us citizens

:okthumb:

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 15 2003, 12:37 PM
Timon=GAYFA I'm stumped
GAYFA = Go Away You fucking Asshole

[Timon]

Soul Rebel knows his shit :-)

What if you take hGH, work out daily but don't use any anabolic steroids, will it promote enough muscle growth to justify the $1500/month expense of using it?

[Peaches]

I plan on growing old according to my inner time clock. When it's time for me to look like a dried up old prune, then so be it. B)

[Soul_Rebel]

lol thanks

Timon, I cannot gurantee that, specially if you haven't exercised before. Best thing to do is to start exercising and after a year or two you consult a doctor. Maybe the tests they do to you can show how effective or not HGH will be in your body.

There's no doubt HGH on average works. No other drug from what I know can increase the number of your cell bodies. A small example is that the today's pro bodybuilders, although they have monster dimensions, they all "suffer" from large waist. Like the rest bodyparts, their waist also increase in dimensions which is negative for the competitions.

we should start an oprano gym club :stout:

[Forest]

bump

where is the hgh guy???

[Timon]

maybe I scared him away, too bad, I had more stuff to ask him :(

[Forest]

Originally posted by Timon@Aug 19 2003, 01:19 AM
maybe I scared him away, too bad, I had more stuff to ask him :(
hell i wanted to know the shave % on those payouts

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 13 2003, 09:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 13 2003, 09:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 13 2003, 02:22 PM
And thats true if you arer looking for a pump or to get "huge" HGH is not for that alom\ne all though many body builders stack it with anabolics I personally think its best use is as a anti aging drug.

So then what's the connection between fitness and HGH?

ARE YOU TRYING TO MISLEAD US VULNERABLE OPRANAUTS!!!???[/b][/quote]
HGH improves lean muscle mass burns fat and helps too reverse or slow signs of aging.

Not my opinion this is that off many

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Forest+Aug 18 2003, 10:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Aug 18 2003, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 19 2003, 01:19 AM
maybe I scared him away, too bad, I had more stuff to ask him :(
hell i wanted to know the shave % on those payouts[/b][/quote]
No timon just been busy whats up sir.

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel@Aug 17 2003, 01:51 AM
"Is this legal in the states to sell and ship this way????"


You need prescription for sure. This goes for all countries. In states it is usually under the category of anti-aging therapy.


"where is it shipped from? How is it shipped if it need to be maintained at a certain temp (especially to hot states)"

I don't know a lot of details about it. There are only few drug labs that produce synthetic HGH since the market for it is small. Most of them are located in Europe. Till few years ago you could find in the black market cheap Russian non synthetic HGH (which was coming from animals!) and due to various dangers for diseases it was banned. Like Steroids, if you can't be 100% sure for the source it's better not to purchase anything since the percentage of fake drugs is extremely high. Most of steroids sold in the blackmarket are fake. This goes for HGH as well.


"if you stop taking it does it act like other steriods and just start to loose muscle and mass? (i dont know anything about steroids never used them)"

No, the results of HGH are permanent and cannot be traced with antidoping control tests. That's why the steroids Guru, Daniel Duchaine had called HGH as God's miracle in his book a decade ago. I translated this book in my native lang. and it had a paragraph about Ben Johnson, the canadian sprinter that lost his olympic medal due to anabolic use. Ben Johnson bought a period before the olympics some bottles that were supposed to have HGH. In reality the bottles didn't have HGH,but another anabolic that works only on the female body. That drug was found in his blood and that drug didn't help him to win the medal of 100m running. He won the race due to his own increadible performance. The drug was useless....... Now near all olympic athletes make use of HGH and dozens of other anabolics.

A primary chracteristic of HGH is that it reduces the body fat levels.
Also it increases the amount of muscle cells, unlike all other kind of drugs like steroids that temp. increase the size of your cells. That's why pro bodybuilders use both. More and bigger muscle cells. There is a small fear that it might lead to cancer cases. So far though there's no scientific proof that the use of HGH means higher possibility of cancer and this is after many decades of research.

I haven't used any steroids myself as well,but I would consider HGH after few years. In the middle 20's the human body produces less growth hormone and this results at a high level on getting old. The older you are, the better results you'll see with HGH. I think for someone that can afford it and it's 40y.old+ (Serge??) it's a good deal to visit a doctor and request to start an anti aging therapy after doing all the proper medical tests.
Wow I havnt been back to oprano for a few days Soul Thank you for the great disertation on HGH If I could add a couple of points

The brand that I rep is called Saizen and it does not degrade with heat untill it is reconstituted.

Our prescrtiptions are handled by a US doc and our fufillment comes from a Bahamaian pharmacy(free trade zone).

Soul you have a real handle on HGH cool I would love to talk to you further.

TY

[Timon]

hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon@Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM
hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!
:biglaugh:

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 20 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 20 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM
hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!
:biglaugh:[/b][/quote]
What are you laughing about? Nobody's making jokes.

[JR]

i have a question.

can you point to any peer reviewed and credible medical study that shows that taking HGH is effective and safe?

[Meni]

If you are in to fitness
then try
nutrition
training
cardio

if you are into reverse aging
talk to HG Wells
or Dick Clark

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by JR@Aug 21 2003, 04:50 AM
i have a question.

can you point to any peer reviewed and credible medical study that shows that taking HGH is effective and safe?
Sure,

2 of the most credible are Dr Nick Delgado 7 books (http://www.extendyouth.com)
Dr Ronald Klatz do a google search
Both very credible

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Meni@Aug 21 2003, 05:07 AM
If you are in to fitness
then try
nutrition
training
cardio

if you are into reverse aging
talk to HG Wells
or Dick Clark
Dick Clark,

It is often said that Dick Clark, George Hamilton and quite a few actors are HGH believers (even Arnuld)

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 21 2003, 04:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 21 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 20 2003, 12:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM
hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!
:biglaugh:
What are you laughing about? Nobody's making jokes.[/b][/quote]
RUSAT

[Trev]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 21 2003, 05:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 21 2003, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 21 2003, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 20 2003, 12:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM
hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!
:biglaugh:
What are you laughing about? Nobody's making jokes.
RUSAT[/b][/quote]
ok, ok you got me...

I knew what GAYFA was but I've never seen RUSAT before...

wassit mean :huh:

[Opti]

are you sure about that trev?

answer your email mr hormone

[TheHarvMan]

HGH Info (http://hghlink.com/) Here is a source for Pros and Cons on HGH! There are just as many benefits as there are side effects. Get looked at by a professional to see if HGH is right for you! :zoinks: [SQL]

[Trev]

Originally posted by Opti@Aug 21 2003, 06:38 PM
are you sure about that trev?

answer your email mr hormone
:unsure:

Ok you've got me wracking my brain and Google and I.. dunno :(

I know Rusat is a word in Russian, Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian
Also Al Rusat is an Arabic word
Rusat was a Cardasian in DS9

but I don't know what hghpaysbig means by RUSAT :(

[JR]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 21 2003, 08:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 21 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Aug 21 2003, 04:50 AM
i have a question.

can you point to any peer reviewed and credible medical study that shows that taking HGH is effective and safe?
Sure,

2 of the most credible are Dr Nick Delgado 7 books (http://www.extendyouth.com)
Dr Ronald Klatz do a google search
Both very credible[/b][/quote]
do you have any sources of info from someone who is not trying to sell the same shit?

"very credible" :rolleyes:

http://www.pleasurelabs.com/pics/bridge.jpg

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by TheHarvMan@Aug 21 2003, 09:54 AM
HGH Info (http://hghlink.com/) Here is a source for Pros and Cons on HGH! There are just as many benefits as there are side effects. Get looked at by a professional to see if HGH is right for you! :zoinks: [SQL]
Great Info Thank you

[Joesho1]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 21 2003, 04:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 21 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 20 2003, 12:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM
hghpaysbig ===> GAYFA!!!
:biglaugh:
What are you laughing about? Nobody's making jokes.[/b][/quote]
He is laughing at YOU...not with YOU.....

Nobody ever laughs with you, ONLY at you...hahahaha

[Opti]

Originally posted by Trev+Aug 22 2003, 04:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ Aug 22 2003, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Opti@Aug 21 2003, 06:38 PM
are you sure about that trev?

answer your email mr hormone
:unsure:

Ok you've got me wracking my brain and Google and I.. dunno :(

I know Rusat is a word in Russian, Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian
Also Al Rusat is an Arabic word
Rusat was a Cardasian in DS9

but I don't know what hghpaysbig means by RUSAT :([/b][/quote]
oops.. bit too obtuse!

I meant to say... I think he meant R U Sure About That.

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Opti+Aug 21 2003, 10:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Aug 21 2003, 10:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Trev@Aug 22 2003, 04:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Opti@Aug 21 2003, 06:38 PM
are you sure about that trev?

answer your email mr hormone
:unsure:

Ok you've got me wracking my brain and Google and I.. dunno :(

I know Rusat is a word in Russian, Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian
Also Al Rusat is an Arabic word
Rusat was a Cardasian in DS9

but I don't know what hghpaysbig means by RUSAT :(
oops.. bit too obtuse!

I meant to say... I think he meant R U Sure About That.[/b][/quote]
OPTI -YKA

[hghpaysbig]

JR

You putz I mean really These guys do not sell HGH they are anti aging advocates Men who have spent thier careers studying in their feild.
I fail to see what you want me to tell you HGH is no good for you I believe in the product and the downside is low I liked what Harv man put up very accuarate site. scrool up and click the link.

I dont need to sell webmasters we are doing ok now. I like the reach that the adult community has on the web that is why i posed my first question?
I am really glad that I posted because of the response I have gotten from some has been informative, engaging and not suprisingly possible a few business relationships.
I realize that no matter what on a forum like this someone will feel threatened and lash out quickly (show their ass) so I take no offense when someone is rude (ignorant). The upside is most people are so nice that I am really happy to be around crative bright people who if thier questions wern't answered the way they wanted they did some research on thier own. One reqally sweet person did a google searcg so they can form thier own opinion. JR just type google in your search bar the type in HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE - you can add other words too it's really easy.

Sorry for the rant

[Timon]

hghpaysbig you are a fucking asshole

The only reason you are here is to spam your snakeoil hormones for midgets, senile 90 yr olds and wasting AIDS patients.

Every single post you have made so far has been to peddle your lame snakeoil. Even your nickname is a spam slogan. You are so fucking transparent even Forest could figure you out.

Get the fuck out of here and peddle your crappy shit somewhere else.

[Forest]

timon

you've got that copy and paste thing down pat

Good Job!!!



Last edited by Forest at Aug 21 2003, 10:40 PM

[Forest]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 21 2003, 04:31 PM
JR

You putz
boy he figured you out quick

got any new photoshops of me???

I love you spending time on little ol me

makes me feel all warm and cuddly

[JR]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 21 2003, 01:31 PM
JR

You putz I mean really These guys do not sell HGH they are anti aging advocates Men who have spent thier careers studying in their feild.
I fail to see what you want me to tell you HGH is no good for you I believe in the product and the downside is low I liked what Harv man put up very accuarate site. scrool up and click the link.

there are a few simple facts about hormone therapy, HGH, DHEA, precursors etc.

i could be wrong about this .. and i am not going to dig up facts, but here is the opinion of a "putz"

1) there is little to no solid evidence to prove their long term safety or benefits of taking HGH. every credible medical study usually concludes with words like "suggests that" ... "seems to indicate" ... "is thought to...." etc.

2) there is a TON of dickheads like you selling snake oil - for example the sprays which are 100% not effective. Your body simple cannot convert and utilize it. of course you were careful to point out that you are not one of those people.. but you can only defend yourself by pointing us to evidence from people who are selling the same thing you are. *yawn*

3) Your hormones exist in a pretty delicate balance with each other. Toying with that, without medical supervision is pretty dangerous.

toying with that balance because some fuck with a website with stolen graphics from www.phong.com said it's ok... is beyond stupid.




Last edited by JR at Aug 21 2003, 10:51 PM

[Trev]

Originally posted by Opti+Aug 21 2003, 07:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Aug 21 2003, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Trev@Aug 22 2003, 04:03 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Opti@Aug 21 2003, 06:38 PM
are you sure about that trev?

answer your email mr hormone
:unsure:

Ok you've got me wracking my brain and Google and I.. dunno :(

I know Rusat is a word in Russian, Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian
Also Al Rusat is an Arabic word
Rusat was a Cardasian in DS9

but I don't know what hghpaysbig means by RUSAT :(
oops.. bit too obtuse!

I meant to say... I think he meant R U Sure About That.[/b][/quote]
DUH!!! lol

I must have taken my moron pills yesterday

RU Sure About That!!!


Doh! :huh:

[Timon]

RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon

[Opti]

Originally posted by Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:

[Timon]

Originally posted by Opti+Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:[/b][/quote]
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)

[Opti]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 22 2003, 05:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 22 2003, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Opti@Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)[/b][/quote]
were you imagining anyone thought it came to you "naturally" :moon:

[Timon]

Originally posted by Opti+Aug 22 2003, 02:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Aug 22 2003, 02:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by -Opti@Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)
were you imagining anyone thought it came to you "naturally" :moon:[/b][/quote]
I was sort of hoping that.... :(

But it doesn't matter how it came as long as it came ;-)

[Trev]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 22 2003, 08:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 22 2003, 08:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Opti@Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)[/b][/quote]
I need some of these hormones so I can become: Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Trev :okthumb:

[Timon]

Originally posted by Trev+Aug 22 2003, 02:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ Aug 22 2003, 02:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 22 2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by -Opti@Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)
I need some of these hormones so I can become: Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Trev :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
It's called hSOH

You must use it as a suppository, don't believe any of those injectable hSOH selling liars, that stuff doesn't work!

[Trev]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 22 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 22 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Trev@Aug 22 2003, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 22 2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by -Opti@Aug 22 2003, 02:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Timon@Aug 22 2003, 05:29 PM
RUSAT means Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Timon
You will only stay that way if you keep up your hormones! :matey:
Hey, it's hormones that made me "Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate" in the first place ;-)
I need some of these hormones so I can become: Right, Ultra Smart & Articulate Trev :okthumb:
It's called hSOH

You must use it as a suppository, don't believe any of those injectable hSOH selling liars, that stuff doesn't work![/b][/quote]
Damn!!

I've got a gSOH by the bucket load... but if this hSOH has got to go up my ass I don't wanna know :blink:


I'll sit here with my gSOH and be a dumb ass :D

[american pervert]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Aug 12 2003, 10:48 AM
fitness freaks on Oprano???

uh-uh-uh!
;-)))
I am at the gym at 5.30 am..... not all of us are blessed with adonis like physiques.... ;-))

[Vick]

What all this about Hormones???

If you want to make a Hor moan ... just don't pay her

:D

[Anthony]

Originally posted by american pervert+Aug 22 2003, 09:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (american pervert @ Aug 22 2003, 09:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Aug 12 2003, 10:48 AM
fitness freaks on Oprano???

uh-uh-uh!
;-)))
I am at the gym at 5.30 am..... not all of us are blessed with adonis like physiques.... ;-))[/b][/quote]
Hey you will you look nice, for sure.

But those muscles are just gonna look good, it's for sure.

Come on the mat with me and roll. Build real muscles that won't tire out quickly because they are trained to do 3 sets of 12 reps.

You would have to take out all your piercings first, though. :D

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by JR@Aug 21 2003, 04:50 AM
i have a question.

can you point to any peer reviewed and credible medical study that shows that taking HGH is effective and safe?
So you get some "peer reviews" and you bitch Ha what do you want from me to come to "industry" board and not talk about my business at all?
Yes this a great board because its laid back and a lot more mature then some of the others, I feel I can get some better use of my time than posting or looking at tits and ass.

I think my credibility is yet to be determined and certainly not by you Timon or JR who based on their previous posts that I made the time to check out are cynics and seem like your stereotypical keyboard tough guys in my experiences those types are much nicer in person.

Jr points out
1) there is little to no solid evidence to prove their long term safety or benefits of taking HGH. every credible medical study usually concludes with words like "suggests that" ... "seems to indicate" ... "is thought to...." etc.



True many studies end that way, As well as studies for Cancer, weight loss ertectile dysfunction etc,,,,
You see all bodies are different Doctors never give a definitive answer unless it has to do with a specific ex; put a cast on that broken bone
even than put a cast on it and we will check it in six weeks

So what is solid "evidence" I think the testomonials of people who use and get results (good or bad) HGH is a perscription you have to have a medical exam before recieving any treatment


2) there is a TON of dickheads like you selling snake oil - for example the sprays which are 100% not effective. Your body simple cannot convert and utilize it. of course you were careful to point out that you are not one of those people.. but you can only defend yourself by pointing us to evidence from people who are selling the same thing you are. *yawn*


Well There are a few people who sell real HGH on the internet and I am sure there will be plenty more as the buzz gets bigger. I dont sell a spray so why mention it. Again I see the Docs/Scientists/Authors who right books and spend their lives dedicated to antiaging (who dont sell growth)
know less than JR. I am sorry please do not be offended but I trust their opinion more than I do yours

3) Your hormones exist in a pretty delicate balance with each other. Toying with that, without medical supervision is pretty dangerous.

toying with that balance because some fuck with a website with stolen graphics from www.phong.com said it's ok... is beyond stupid.


You are correct please if you decide to pursue any physical activity from dieting to fucking a stranger get a medical opinion or wear a rubber.

If you have a stolen graphic on yourwebsite fire your designer thats what I did!

So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?
Snake oil dont throw stones you might not like the window you break

[Timon]

Hey dipshit, you're in the wrong thread, this discussion has moved here:

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...e4caa11d9ca9a1a (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=5184&s=142e565c82f473f75e4caa11d9ca9a1a)

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?
This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))

[Timon]

Originally posted by Anthony@Aug 22 2003, 01:10 PM
Hey you will you look nice, for sure.

But those muscles are just gonna look good, it's for sure.

Come on the mat with me and roll. Build real muscles that won't tire out quickly because they are trained to do 3 sets of 12 reps.

Anthony....... I think most of us guys would rather have a good looking body than be really good at rolling on the mat hugging another guy :unsure:



Last edited by Timon at Aug 23 2003, 12:34 AM

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 22 2003, 06:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 22 2003, 06:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?
This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))[/b][/quote]
my point exactly

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 23 2003, 12:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 23 2003, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 22 2003, 06:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?
This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
my point exactly[/b][/quote]
so then what the fuck are you doing here?

go find some midget support group forum



Last edited by Timon at Aug 23 2003, 12:35 AM

[JR]

Originally posted by JR@Aug 21 2003, 04:50 AM
i have a question.

can you point to any peer reviewed and credible medical study that shows that taking HGH is effective and safe?

I think my credibility is yet to be determined and certainly not by you Timon or JR who based on their previous posts that I made the time to check out are cynics and seem like your stereotypical keyboard tough guys in my experiences those types are much nicer in person.

fair enough. if it will make you feel better, i can kick the living shit out of you in vegas if you can find enough money for a bus ticket to get there.

Jr points out
1) there is little to no solid evidence to prove their long term safety or benefits of taking HGH. every credible medical study usually concludes with words like "suggests that" ... "seems to indicate" ... "is thought to...." etc.

True many studies end that way, As well as studies for Cancer, weight loss ertectile dysfunction etc,,,,
You see all bodies are different Doctors never give a definitive answer unless it has to do with a specific ex; put a cast on that broken bone
even than put a cast on it and we will check it in six weeks

we are not talking about "many studies" - we are talking about HGH. you can't find any large body of credible medical studies because there are none.

even more to the point, you can't find any studies that can say conclusively that there are no long term negative effects because relatively, this is a very new science and it would take 50-100 years to know the answer to that question.

so.... saying "i take it and i feel better today" - is no different than saying "i snort cocaine and feel great" or "i am taking double the recommended doses of steroids and insulin injections and i am seeing tremendous gains"

the fact is, you can also be destroying yourself at the same time. you CAN'T prove thats not true.

So what is solid "evidence" I think the testomonials of people who use and get results (good or bad) HGH is a perscription you have to have a medical exam before recieving any treatment

some people get good temporary results from smoking crack. so what?

2) there is a TON of dickheads like you selling snake oil - for example the sprays which are 100% not effective. Your body simple cannot convert and utilize it. of course you were careful to point out that you are not one of those people.. but you can only defend yourself by pointing us to evidence from people who are selling the same thing you are. *yawn*

--
Well There are a few people who sell real HGH on the internet and I am sure there will be plenty more as the buzz gets bigger. I dont sell a spray so why mention it. Again I see the Docs/Scientists/Authors who right books and spend their lives dedicated to antiaging (who dont sell growth)
know less than JR. I am sorry please do not be offended but I trust their opinion more than I do yours

i see books by people dedicated to studying Bigfoot, Lochness Monster and UFO's. so what? its hardly conclusive proof of anything. right?


3) Your hormones exist in a pretty delicate balance with each other. Toying with that, without medical supervision is pretty dangerous.

toying with that balance because some fuck with a website with stolen graphics from www.phong.com said it's ok... is beyond stupid.

------
You are correct please if you decide to pursue any physical activity from dieting to fucking a stranger get a medical opinion or wear a rubber.

ok. so i am correct. you can tweak with your hormones and the list of things that can go wrong are WELL documented thanks to bodybuilders in the last 50 years. the health risks are many. they are proven.

If you have a stolen graphic on yourwebsite fire your designer thats what I did!

what do you mean "fire your designer" - you have a guy working for you and he does not have the photoshop skills of a 10 year old and you had to fire him? doesn't make sense. looked like you had no money and you took a screenshot of the flash animation of www.phong.com and tried to make a website from it.

So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound and they retire young and rich? Snake oil dont throw stones you might not like the window you break

this is an adult webmaster board. where did you think you were... www.people-who-believe-anything.com?

[HoneyBlond]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))[/b][/quote]
:biglaugh:


touche Timon

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by HoneyBlond+Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HoneyBlond @ Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
:biglaugh:


touche Timon[/b][/quote]
My point was when in a glass house

[hghpaysbig]

JR your arguments are that of a spoiled child.
I will no longer be responding to you or Timon
We will have our talk in Vegas I promise you will have an oportunity to kick my ass :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Trust me good folks at oprano I am neither annoyed or shocked just saddened that once again another who judged me and what I do is reduced to threats of violence :huh:

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 23 2003, 11:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 23 2003, 11:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -HoneyBlond@Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
:biglaugh:


touche Timon
My point was when in a glass house[/b][/quote]
You have the nerve to come to OUR board and then call our business a glass house?

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 23 2003, 07:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 23 2003, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 23 2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by -HoneyBlond@Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
:biglaugh:


touche Timon
My point was when in a glass house
You have the nerve to come to OUR board and then call our business a glass house?[/b][/quote]
Just making a point about passing judgement.

?"our board?
Timon if this was your board you would be very lonely

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 24 2003, 12:13 AM
?"our board?
Timon if this was your board you would be very lonely
Our board = the board of us lowlife scum pornographers.

We are way below you, you have no business being here.

[Timon]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig@Aug 24 2003, 12:13 AM
Just making a point about passing judgement.
By stating that you are morally objected by our line of business you are simply reinforcing my point that your posts here are a thinly veiled attempt at peddling your midget hormones to us.

We might be lowlife smut peddlers but we're not stupid and your spam campaign is an insult to our intelligence.

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 23 2003, 10:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 23 2003, 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 24 2003, 12:13 AM
Just making a point about passing judgement.
By stating that you are morally objected by our line of business you are simply reinforcing my point that your posts here are a thinly veiled attempt at peddling your midget hormones to us.

We might be lowlife smut peddlers but we're not stupid and your spam campaign is an insult to our intelligence.[/b][/quote]
Thas was not my statement
I am not morally opjected to porn or those who make or sell porn

I just dont like hypocrites!

You created my spam campaign thanks it made me some great contacts and some cash Timon keep up the work

[HoneyBlond]

Originally posted by hghpaysbig+Aug 24 2003, 03:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hghpaysbig @ Aug 24 2003, 03:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -HoneyBlond@Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
:biglaugh:


touche Timon
My point was when in a glass house[/b][/quote]
:lol:

hghpaysbig my point is I'm not interested in your glass house / passing judgement points :)

I am Australian, so by nature have the inherent ability to laugh at myself or at my own expense. ie pondering the absurdity of 12 years of catholic schooling to become a pornographer. ( Not exactly sure thats what my mother had in mind hmmm.. ) :awinky:

However your cute antidotes and backward sarcasm on *our* chosen profession have about as much charm as a road fatality :)
and are lousy comparisons in making the actual *points* of view you wish to share.

*Our = us lowlife scum pornographers*
** Thank You Timon

[Soul_Rebel]

Originally posted by JR@Aug 22 2003, 10:54 PM
"even more to the point, you can't find any studies that can say conclusively that there are no long term negative effects because relatively, this is a very new science and it would take 50-100 years to know the answer to that question."
im quoting this part of JR's post because it's very important in case someone miss it. As JR said although HGH has been around for few decades, it's still early to be certain it doesnt have serious negative effects, even in a very small percentage. Health is very important and you should have everything in mind before taking any decision and always consult a doctor.

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by HoneyBlond+Aug 23 2003, 11:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HoneyBlond @ Aug 23 2003, 11:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -hghpaysbig@Aug 24 2003, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by -HoneyBlond@Aug 23 2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by -Timon@Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hghpaysbig@Aug 22 2003, 04:44 PM
So JR you keyboard tough guy what do you sell oh yea you pimp young chicks to do lude acts with strangers and that keeps then mentally sound
and they retire young and rich?

This is a pornographers board you idiot, we ALL do that for a living ;-))
:biglaugh:


touche Timon
My point was when in a glass house
:lol:

hghpaysbig my point is I'm not interested in your glass house / passing judgement points :)

I am Australian, so by nature have the inherent ability to laugh at myself or at my own expense. ie pondering the absurdity of 12 years of catholic schooling to become a pornographer. ( Not exactly sure thats what my mother had in mind hmmm.. ) :awinky:

However your cute antidotes and backward sarcasm on *our* chosen profession have about as much charm as a road fatality :)
and are lousy comparisons in making the actual *points* of view you wish to share.

*Our = us lowlife scum pornographers*
** Thank You Timon[/b][/quote]
Honey-- somehow you missed my point because my opinion is the same as yours I was making a direct reference to JR pointing fingers at part of what I do for a living.

I do not wish to offend anyone just point out a hypocrite!

[hghpaysbig]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel+Aug 24 2003, 03:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Soul_Rebel @ Aug 24 2003, 03:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Aug 22 2003, 10:54 PM
"even more to the point, you can't find any studies that can say conclusively that there are no long term negative effects because relatively, this is a very new science and it would take 50-100 years to know the answer to that question."
im quoting this part of JR's post because it's very important in case someone miss it. As JR said although HGH has been around for few decades, it's still early to be certain it doesnt have serious negative effects, even in a very small percentage. Health is very important and you should have everything in mind before taking any decision and always consult a doctor.[/b][/quote]
I second that please always consult your doctor.

[Anthony]

Originally posted by Timon+Aug 22 2003, 09:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Timon @ Aug 22 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Anthony@Aug 22 2003, 01:10 PM
Hey you will you look nice, for sure.

But those muscles are just gonna look good, it's for sure.

Come on the mat with me and roll. Build real muscles that won't tire out quickly because they are trained to do 3 sets of 12 reps.

Anthony....... I think most of us guys would rather have a good looking body than be really good at rolling on the mat hugging another guy :unsure:[/b][/quote]
Timon,

You are assuming that you won't get a decent body rolling around grappling. I admit, it's not the puff up muscles that I once had, but actual working muscle that I can rely on after 30 seconds of full out physical exertion.

Having all those great muscles look even worse when your ass is knocked down and choked out on the ground spasming like a fish out of water.

Sorry for the disturbing visual.

:D

[PornoDoggy]

Could be it's the whole 60s thing, but I agree with Peaches.

I've always seen a difference between doing the best with what [INSERT YOUR DIETY HERE] gave you through excercise, workouts, whatever ... and practicing "better living through chemistry."

Having watched several friends go into very ugly melt downs on steroids, I take a suspicious view of things like this. I'm particularly skeptical of claims about scientific research after looking into the whole Manitek (sp?) pyramid scheme of "nutritional supplements."

[aeon]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Aug 25 2003, 12:09 AM
Could be it's the whole 60s thing, but I agree with Peaches.

I've always seen a difference between doing the best with what [INSERT YOUR DIETY HERE] gave you through excercise, workouts, whatever ... and practicing "better living through chemistry."

Having watched several friends go into very ugly melt downs on steroids, I take a suspicious view of things like this. I'm particularly skeptical of claims about scientific research after looking into the whole Manitek (sp?) pyramid scheme of "nutritional supplements."
that diety in some way created anabolics too - all anabolics are, are synthetic derivatives of testosterone. many people melt down on alchohol, tobacco & other drugs.

everything in moderation. With HGH...it's too expensive and doesn't really show any benefit until 6 months or so of continued use from what folks say that use it (unless you use insulin with it - way too dangerous). Not to mention the amazing amount of "legally fuck me dry" potentialities selling it to US customers would offer.

best of luck -
aeon