Classy or Trashy? Behavior at Internext Convention

[Mike AI]

It amazes me how much this industry has changed, and how the conventions and parties have changed as well.

I remember the first show I went to in Orlando... it was a pretty low key affair, the only real party I remember being outside the hotel was thrown by Python at a local strip club. This convention is the one where everyone was a newbie, and lots of great friendships and business associates were made.

This last show, I strolled over to the GFY Boat party to say hello to Lensman, and I was pretty distrubed at what I saw....

http://joinrightnow.com/pictures/03-08-04/images/126.jpg

The rest of them are here http://joinrightnow.com/pictures/03-08-04/index_7.html

When I saw this unfold in front of me on the ship, I knew it was time to leave.... the guy also pissed all over the boat as well.

This is the problem with our industry.... there is a lack of professionalism... there is a group of people who are more thrilled to be part of the show, then understand that this is a BUSINESS!!

I am far from a prude, and if people want to urinate on each other, or in cups ands drink it in private... I am all for it.... but to do it at a party, a "business party", that is why this industry continue to head South quickly!


- End of RANT!

[Almighty Colin]

It's interesting to watch the change. The way the parties are now is the way I thought they would be back at my first show (Orlando). That was the tamest show ever. It was a big deal that DJ-JD brought 3 strippers with him. No content parties. Very mellow.

I've been surprised at how far the public parties have gone. It was usually only the private, small parties that had the live sex shows. Now it is the big heavily attended ones.

Precedence has been set, I imagine.

[Hooper]

That's just trashy and disturbing.

[mojobill]

Mike, I agree, and have been of that opinion for some years now...

I thought it was just me showing my age, but I never understood how one conducted business in a 'circus' atmosphere where you can not hear yourself talk... lol

Professionalism needs to be shown, now more than ever, especially in the 'public eye' so to speak.... we dont need any more adverse publicity, and situations like this will certainly attracth that....

I know that private parties and smaller gatherings, are all that a number of people will attend anymore.... a number of us just had such a gathering in Vegas last week, it was fruitful, laid back, and LOTS of biz taken care of with like minded folks....

Will the Internext style events go away? I highly doubt it... people want to get crazy, and dont think of the long term consequences...

course.. thats my simple 2 cents... and worth every penny you paid for it!
;-)

[Mike AI]

Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

There was a little nudity and such, but it was very tame. Especially by todays standards.

Thing is, I love naked chicks, and live sex shows and things do not bother me as well. The problem is doing this in front of large groups of drunk webmasters, this causes the problems.... at least part of them.

[ulfie]

I was standing there with MikeAI when that happened and I was shocked. After she did that some guy started pissing on the wall. It definately was disturbing and disgusting. Some people treat this as a business, some people don't. That's the problem when you have no barriers to entry into a business, you end up with people that work for beer money and are just there to party at an industry convention.

[BradShaw]

Things like this are the reason I did not attend Miami and may never attend another show. There is a serious lack of a professional business atmosphere. I think we are seeing more businessmen staying home, or doing private affairs at shows, thus these idiots stick out even more.

I also heard the open use of drugs was rampant. One thing to do drugs on the down low, it is another to do them out in public and gloat about it.

You have that idiots like easton who OD's on coke and was back at the hotel doing more coke the next day, and bragging about it on the chat boards.

One day a drug bust will happen at a show, and some innocent people will be caught in the middle. Limo gets pulled over full of coke, or a small room party where coke is everywhere, cops will arrest everyone. There are some people in this business with serious drug problems.

[SykkBoy]

I wonder if hired talent at the older shows had current STD tests...I can't remember....

[BradShaw]

FYI, people ask me all the time why we no longer sponsor parties. Two reasons.

#1 Better to do small affairs and take people to private dinners. In Miami, we did 3 dinners for 8-10 people. Anymore than that and it can be hard to talk biz.

#2 Liability issues abound.

[princess]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 6 2003, 08:32 AM
#1 Better to do small affairs and take people to private dinners. In Miami, we did 3 dinners for 8-10 people. Anymore than that and it can be hard to talk biz.


I personally like the smaller parties. For me these trips are about business and networking. Not to mention if they get to big the hassles that you have to go through doesn't make it worth the time.

:inlove:

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 11:08 AM
Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg
Flashback. Nice photo collection ;-)

Isn't that by the pool at the Clarion? If so, I know I was sitting right there. Spanker too.

Two of those girls worked in a Houston strip club. I remember them telling me they had jerk off booths.

I wonder if Forest worked there before he went to Ohio. ;-)

[Billy]

Brad I think that is one reason why the player hater balls are so good, a small group that make the night one to remember.

Humm... PHB III ???

Who will be sponsors in January ??

[Forest]

Originally posted by Colin+Aug 6 2003, 11:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Aug 6 2003, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 11:08 AM
Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg
Flashback. Nice photo collection ;-)

Isn't that by the pool at the Clarion? If so, I know I was sitting right there. Spanker too.

Two of those girls worked in a Houston strip club. I remember them telling me they had jerk off booths.

I wonder if Forest worked there before he went to Ohio. ;-)[/b][/quote]
colin

never been to houston

Now NYC is a different story


:o



Last edited by Forest at Aug 6 2003, 11:46 AM

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 6 2003, 11:32 AM
FYI, people ask me all the time why we no longer sponsor parties. Two reasons.

#1 Better to do small affairs and take people to private dinners. In Miami, we did 3 dinners for 8-10 people. Anymore than that and it can be hard to talk biz.

#2 Liability issues abound.
Brad,

You've reached a point where not going to a show is seen as a sign of success rather than failure. You've done a good job on the boards of cultivating that point.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Hooper@Aug 6 2003, 08:01 AM
That's just trashy and disturbing.
I must agree

[*KK*]

Hmmm, the only real party I went to was Hoopers (and I didnt make it to the Topbucks side so I dont know what went on there) at this show, stopped by the GFY boat for a few minutes but it was too humid out for me...

However this show reminded me of another Internext in alot of ways -- the New Orleans show back in 2000... the frantic atmosphere, with all manner of crazy behaviour going on.

I think its a cyclical thing -- when the industry is scared of whats going to happen in the future it seems that people start to get crazy, partying like rock stars, pushing things way over the edge. When its more secure, things are much less wide open.

I remember thinking back in New Orleans, damn, this can't go on this way... then there were all manner of problems coming -- FTC, cc companies, etc - bearing down on the industry like a train with no brakes -- once the dust settled tho, the next year when we had the summer show in Vegas it was way more calm and people weren't anywhere near as crazy in their behaviour.

Some people are just fools in public no matter what, and they definitely give the rest of the industry a very bad public image.

[AcidMaX]

January's Internext was the first show I had ever been too. The convention floor wasn't bad I met a lot of people, however the parties were just too much. There was a lot of drugs going on all over the place it seemed and me personally don't care for drugs. The following evening I met some people on the show floor and some of us all went out to dinner.

That dinner proved more beneficial for me than anything else I did at that show. I was introduced to about 10 people during dinner that turned out to be great business contacts.

It's a shame some people don't act professional when at an industry / professional function. Some people forget, there is time for business and there is time for pleasure. And to use one more cliche, "Perception is Reality", when people act like that it gives you an impression of their professionalism.

You could be the best business man in the world, but if I saw you drinking urine during a public funtion I would never do business with you.

Andy

[Cassie]

and people wonder why the bigger webmasters are not attending shows any longer. that pic is just down right disgusting. great representation of an industry that already has a name lower then a shit stain.
:barfon:

[ulfie]

I keep hearing about rampant drug use. I guess I hang out with the right people because I saw very little. I saw a few people smoking pot but that was about it.

[SykkBoy]

Drugs have always been a part of this industry and always will be.

It used to be a more hush hush thing though...but I've never been to a show where at least 2-3 peaopl haven't come up to me and said "hey, let's go up to such and such's room and smoke some pot" or "snort a couple lines".

I've been to "real" business conferences that were the same way. The parties were insane, out of hand and filled with drugs, hookers and all vices exploited.

Parties were NEVER where business happened. Why should they be? Go to the convention for the business and the parties to let off some steam.

Fuck, even at some of the big restaurant industry conventions I attended, business was done on the show floor or in private meetings, never at parties.

Everyone thinks these parties are the downfall of this industry? No, the downfall is shady business practices, the VISA monopoly, the bullshit billing tricks, the LARGE amount of free hardcore porn available, overeducated surfers and our whole taboo factor (of course, the taboo factor is what keeps us in business).

[sextoyking]

Sykk,

As usual well said!!!
-------------------------------------------

Everyone thinks these parties are the downfall of this industry? No, the downfall is shady business practices, the VISA monopoly, the bullshit billing tricks, the LARGE amount of free hardcore porn available, overeducated surfers and our whole taboo factor (of course, the taboo factor is what keeps us in business).

[shawcutie]

[COLOR=red]

That fool is Easton. Isnt he the same fool that supposedly was in the hospital for not being able to breath due to drugs, then 3 hours later was back doing lines???

:headwall: :headwall: :headwall:

[RichC]

The poker party the party the platinum & hawg bros threw was the best one at this show I thought, and one of the classier ones looking back on it. An it was a good clean fun social event. Kinda glad I left the GFY one early after seeing that pic.

:blink:

[aspwm]

Interesting thread... keep your thoughts coming...

[Peaches]

It's very easy to go the shows and not attend the wild parties. I was at the GFY thing but only for about an hour (long enough to see the pissing though :barfon: ). I was at the Topbucks party but had no desire to watch what was going on onstage, so I didn't. I stayed on "The other side of the black curtain" most of the time :awinky: That party clearly stated that there would be sex shows. It was the GFY party that ticked me off, I guess, since I THOUGHT it was a semi-low key affair as a meet and greet warm up. Pissing on floors and walls was NOT what I expected and I daresay Lensman and CE didn't either.

What worries me is that now the wilder parties will have to be topped by some. But again - I just won't attend - no biggie. :)

Another thing is that a lot of these hardcore sex parties are run by those that produce their own content. It can be argued that they ARE doing business by shooting and then selling the pictures/vids on their sites.

I saw little drug use and only pot. There WERE police all around the Westin and also at the Topbucks party. I would GUESS that if hard drugs were being consumed in their site, they'd take care of it on an individual basis, not arrest everyone at the party.

To sum it up, I'm an old lady and I stay on the fringe of these things and do the small dinners/parties. It's worked out well so far for me. :rokk:

[OldJeff]

Mike,

You have pretty much summed up why I do not attend parties that include strip clubs, photo shoots or the rest.

At the past 4 shows I have attended 4 parties

2 Gameworks parties we were hosting with ARS, and the 2 ARS lounge Lizard parties.

I did not see a single naked person at any of them (I did hear about some guy that was all over Vegas naked showing up at Gameworks)

I could give a shit what people do, but I control what I subject myself to.

FWIW - urinating in public is illegal in all 50 states

[OldJeff]

Originally posted by SykkBoy@Aug 6 2003, 12:38 PM
Drugs have always been a part of this industry and always will be.


Drug use has nothing to do with business, anyone mixing the two is a fool.

[Mike AI]

I stopped by the poker game, I missed getting into it - but I think it was a GREAT idea.... looked like a fun event!!

[Cassie]

drug use does have something to do with business and the way business is conducted. a person being that irresponsible can also ruin the lives of others. so how you can say one cannot or does not affect the other is wrong. whether the end result is now or in the future, the day will come. i have seen it happen many times to those far more successful then me.

regardless, these two in that first photo are suppose to be adults. as it is now seen, the title adult does not necessarily apply.

shooting photos like that for content to resell is one thing. doing it because a person is high is a bullshit excuse that went out once we all graduated hs (or at least it should have).

if a person has an addiction that could be harmful to innocent people, keep it behind closed doors.

those excuses of i did it because i was drunk or high doesn't hold water cause if you cant handle either, you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. no one put a gun to the people in first pic's heads and ordered them to make such a spectical of themselves. they made that decision and imo it was the wrong decision.

content-one thing; money is made from it
public attention-another thing that could lead to sever reprecussions.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Cassie@Aug 6 2003, 02:19 PM
those excuses of i did it because i was drunk or high doesn't hold water
Sorry, but I just had to point out that this could be an EXCELLENT pun considering the subject matter. :rolleyes:

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by OldJeff+Aug 6 2003, 01:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Aug 6 2003, 01:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--SykkBoy@Aug 6 2003, 12:38 PM
Drugs have always been a part of this industry and always will be.


Drug use has nothing to do with business, anyone mixing the two is a fool.[/b][/quote]
This business is full of them ;-)

[photogregg]

The best party we went to for networking and doing biz was at JoeE's.

No loud music so we could talk

Great bbq and relaxing atmosphere at his house

No nudity, but still some eyecandy with a bikini contest

Pics from JoeE's party (http://www.photogregg.com/news.html)

[Cassie]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 6 2003, 02:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 6 2003, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Cassie@Aug 6 2003, 02:19 PM
those excuses of i did it because i was drunk or high doesn't hold water
Sorry, but I just had to point out that this could be an EXCELLENT pun considering the subject matter. :rolleyes:[/b][/quote]
hehehe i made a funny and didnt even know it. hehehehe (ok laughing at my own, unknown jokes means i have spent way too many years on this computer) :biglaugh:

[kath]

KK - I think you have an excellent point... the "craziness" does come and go in waves and if we look back, we can see the pattern you are pointing out quite clearly.

I made it to the a few small board gatherings, had a few planned dinners/hangouts with specific companies/webmasters, made it to the ARS Lounge Lizard Party ( excellent gathering - great drinks, food, a little entertainment for those who wanted it & great prizes! ), got to the Freekfest ( I enjoyed the Voodoo Lounge venue over the Solid Gold, but liked that the two were separated as a 2-part party so folks could choose party vs. strip club or both ) and pretty much just hung out in the lounge area between Satine/pool the last evening meeting up with folks I'd missed, saying good-bye to friends.

I have to agree with Peaches - if you want to see it, it's easy to do and most folks know where to go for the crazy, wild, over-the-top parties. If you want to skip the craziness, it's easy to find places that suit those tastes as well.

I've always preferred the Vegas venues over the Florida ones for their diversity, but have to say that if nothing else - this particular show provided lots of options party-wise for attendees.

:awinky:

[Meni]

About Easton
I saw him, his voice was gone
he thought about going to the hospital
how he was going to pay was talked about
he was gone a while
I saw him next day
Voice still gone
I saw his prescribed meds in my buddy's room

Maybe he did coke, but saying he OD's on coke is bull shit
And if the parties are wild, don't go
as Sykk said, the downfall for this industry isn't 7 days of parties a year
As for doing biz, sure dinner is at 8
parties at 10



Last edited by Meni at Aug 6 2003, 02:11 PM

[Bishop-Ken]

This has been an interesting read..

KK I remember the 2000 party in New Orleans that was a wild place to be. I sat the Miami show out since I haven't been around for awhile. I just wasn't interested in going and dealing with a show that size after being away for awhile. From the sounds of it that was the correct choice.

The big to-do's at the shows are amusing but everyone knows serious business doesn't take place at those things. Hell many people in attendance at those parties will be doing good to remember bits and pieces of the night.. they are not going to remember that they had struck some deal or another.

I have never had a problem with living a wild lifestyle but I don't understand how or why anyone would want to do it in public at a show and risk making themselves look like asses to their peers. Not that I haven't been stupid at a show.. just never that freaking stupid. If you want to have a wild night do it at home with friends. Don't go get well lit with business associates.

[Meni]

Easton out of control at a party?
He's a STUNT COCK
I don't see anything wrong with his behavior
he's not RB

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Meni@Aug 6 2003, 02:08 PM
Maybe he did coke, but saying he OD's on coke is bull shit

Yup, and if I'm not mistaken, couldn't a false allegation of an OD be grounds for some legal problems?
Not sure, I'm not a lawyer and don't play one on TV, the Internet or even in my own home....

[Sharpie]

These comments DO interest me greatly!!!!!!!!

When this sort of conduct goes on - it is damn hard to find a hotel that you feel safe in booking. I am sure that we have had these things go on at Cybernets - but they are kept very low key and more private.

Just today, in discussing some things about a possible 2004 future Cybernet, I looked at a location on the website, with a wide spread beach. My first thoughts were..."how do you control what goes on there when the photographers arrive, without going nuts?" We could have to non- consider a great location, just because the attendees don't know how to conduct themselves in public.

I am glad to see this discussion and hear that not everyone thinks you need to hype up or advertise live sex shows or extreme fetish demonstrations at conventions. My opinion is that I want them so private that I don't even hear about them!

[Evil Chris]

Someone needs some potty training...



Last edited by Evil Chris at Aug 6 2003, 03:21 PM

[Mike AI]

HAHA I agree with you Evil Chris.

Meni - partying, drugs, getting naked are all fine... they do not bother me. It is destroying other peoples property that bothers me. Pissing on a boat ( inside on carpet) you do not own on purpose is just destructive. I doubt Easton would like it if we went to his house and peed on his sofa!

[sarah_webinc]

in addition to my distance and financial restraintsm part of the reason I have never made a huge effort to go to a convention is all the wild parties I hear about. I've never been much of a wild party type. Love a good time but not getting off my head ..especially with people I am suppose to be dealing with on a professional level.

It is good to hear that pleanty of networking can be done away from the wild parties. Makes me feel a bit more comfortable, should I see myself at one anytime in the near future.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc@Aug 6 2003, 03:36 PM
I've never been much of a wild party type. Love a good time but not getting off my head ..especially with people I am suppose to be dealing with on a professional level.

Sarah, you can hang out with me - I didn't even realize all that went on at the Topbucks party until I read it on the boards! :P

[sarah_webinc]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 6 2003, 11:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 6 2003, 11:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--sarah_webinc@Aug 6 2003, 03:36 PM
I've never been much of a wild party type. Love a good time but not getting off my head ..especially with people I am suppose to be dealing with on a professional level.

Sarah, you can hang out with me - I didn't even realize all that went on at the Topbucks party until I read it on the boards! :P[/b][/quote]
deal :D

[ulfie]

I would be the first to admit that I drink a lot of beer at these shows. I also get things done though while I'm there. I met a lot of new people again at this show so it was worthwhile going to it. Some of the things that happen are just over the line for my tastes. Damaging property is not cool. If you can't handle your drugs or alcohol get into a program. Just my opinion, it's worth what you paid for it.

[ulfie]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 6 2003, 02:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 6 2003, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--sarah_webinc@Aug 6 2003, 03:36 PM
I've never been much of a wild party type. Love a good time but not getting off my head ..especially with people I am suppose to be dealing with on a professional level.

Sarah, you can hang out with me - I didn't even realize all that went on at the Topbucks party until I read it on the boards! :P[/b][/quote]
Me neither and we were both there. Hang out with the old folks Sarah and you will have a good time. :okthumb:

[sextoyking]

Fay,

What about if we all did a different type of cybernet sometime. Does a cruise sound good, stupid?? I am sure we could get a few hundred people to go. say a 5-7 day cruise?? There is gaming and drinking for those who wish to do so.

or mabey 1 week in mexico or something. just something different. I love going to Vegas, but I also very much enjoy Dokk's week in Jamaica..

[Peaches]

Originally posted by sextoyking@Aug 6 2003, 04:21 PM
Fay,

What about if we all did a different type of cybernet sometime. Does a cruise sound good, stupid?? I am sure we could get a few hundred people to go. say a 5-7 day cruise?? There is gaming and drinking for those who wish to do so.

or mabey 1 week in mexico or something. just something different. I love going to Vegas, but I also very much enjoy Dokk's week in Jamaica..
A cruise would be GREAT.....with a selected guest list. :P Ditto with the other suggestions. :awinky:

Per GFY, there was also stuff thrown off a balcony in an attempt to break the glass - and it worked. And someone else reported a couple thrown out of their room.

I wonder if the Westin wants us back. :(

[Meni]

Well I guess peeing on the carpet was too trashy

[sarah_webinc]

Originally posted by ulfie@Aug 6 2003, 12:10 PM

Me neither and we were both there. Hang out with the old folks Sarah and you will have a good time. :okthumb:
sounds like a plan...I've always been older before time..guess that might have something to do with marrying someone 18 years older than me.

[VooMan]

I thought I was the only one who wasn't a wild partier. haha

Unfortunately I spent most of this trip working in my hotel room (thank God for the high speed internet access), and I missed a few very nice dinner invitations with people I really wanted to spend time with. I did manage to get to the ARS party, and I always like that (along with Gameworks) because it is low key and a guaranteed nice time. It was funny, I remember going up to Marc the day after and thanking him for a great party. I felt like such a dork, but that is truly how I felt... Good conversation with good people is what I enjoy. :okthumb:

As for all the craziness, you can certainly avoid all that and get things done while still enjoying the show. :)

[sarah_webinc]

atleast you can make someone walk the plank on a cruise

[BradShaw]

Originally posted by Colin+Aug 6 2003, 08:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Aug 6 2003, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Aug 6 2003, 11:32 AM
FYI, people ask me all the time why we no longer sponsor parties. Two reasons.

#1 Better to do small affairs and take people to private dinners. In Miami, we did 3 dinners for 8-10 people. Anymore than that and it can be hard to talk biz.

#2 Liability issues abound.
Brad,

You've reached a point where not going to a show is seen as a sign of success rather than failure. You've done a good job on the boards of cultivating that point.[/b][/quote]
Colin, thanks! But I get jealous when I hear that Mike, Billy, KC, Chris, and Toolz were all hanging out without me! Thats alot of man loving without me!

[BradShaw]

Webmaster cruise long ago was very nice. Maybe an invitation only affair.

Curaco is nice and very well put on, but too many people go there for the drugs and brothels. I recall they had buses to get around on last year, and people were smoking weed on them openly.

[MikeW]

The past 2 shows that I've attended I went to one 'sponsored' party, usually on the first day. After that, I just met with clients, friends and associates, had small dinners and then went out later to private clubs, etc. I hate being stuck in a crowd full of people that I don't know and or can't stand to begin with .... especially when the guy/girl ratio is about 1000:1 :blink:

:awinky:



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[mojobill]

The wild party atmosphere will not go away... there is a lot of the younger crowd in this business, and there concept of a convention is 'wild and crazy'.. so be it... I was young once.. I think....

I have no problem with what people choose to do on their own, god knows I've done enough abusive things to my mind and body over the year, and would by hypocricial of me to condem others for doing the same...

The thing is.. A LOT of people want and atmosphere thats quieter, and more condusive with catching up with friends, exchanging ideas, and cutting deals... frankly, there are a lot of the 'older crowd' that just flat out will not deal with people indulging in the craziness.... maybe to the detrement of both groups, but its a simple fact.

Peaches.. can I hang out with you too... ;-) We gotta do dinner in Jan..

[Peaches]

Originally posted by fatbaby@Aug 6 2003, 05:09 PM
Peaches.. can I hang out with you too... ;-) We gotta do dinner in Jan..
Cool! I've missed you over the past several shows. :(

[SykkBoy]

So I should probably drop the blood drinking/ritual sacrifice party I was planning at Webmaster Summit? I wouldn't want to appear trashy or classless :(

[scott]

I also attended this exact party and was front row for that piss drinking display, that was just trashy and nasty, but some of these girls were actualy really classy, and were there just to represent there companies in a tasteful manner, but the piss drinker, that would make me label for the most part the trip as trashy, but to each there own.
Anyone get any pics of my inflatable penises, those things got some major mileage there. was just wondering if they made it to any websites.

[nlphoto]

If I remember from that first party in Rick YNot's room, the only trashing that occured was someone sitting on a glass table and breaking it...

:awinky:

[sextoyking]

Good Points Mikew,peaches,brad.


hey guys let's talk it around and see if we can do a cruise. I still have never been on one and would love to do a week.

mabey we could all have some contests also were we could give away a few tickets each???

thanks

Todd

[ulfie]

Originally posted by scott@Aug 6 2003, 04:50 PM
I also attended this exact party and was front row for that piss drinking display, that was just trashy and nasty, but some of these girls were actualy really classy, and were there just to represent there companies in a tasteful manner, but the piss drinker, that would make me label for the most part the trip as trashy, but to each there own.
Anyone get any pics of my inflatable penises, those things got some major mileage there. was just wondering if they made it to any websites.
Is this one of yours?



http://www.unmotivated.com/FL_2003/images/104-0443_IMG_JPG.jpg



Last edited by ulfie at Aug 6 2003, 05:52 PM

[Carrie]

That's got to be the biggest penis I've ever seen.
No wonder it's flaming.

I'm with you guys - I like it quieter and if there's partying going on, a small group is way better than a hundred people (most of whom you don't know). Like 8-10 folks get together and party, do the club rounds, whatever. It still lets you have fun but you're also in a more 'protected' atomosphere where if you're female you'll know someone's got your back, but also if you make an ass of yourself it's less likely to be plastered all over the biz boards.

The only time I like to be with a hundred folks I don't know is when we're all out on a dance floor and the lights are going crazy, the bass is pounding in your chest, and the only thing you can think about is the music :awinky:



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[SykkBoy]

With me, it varies, I'm just as comfortable in a noisy, loud music, whole bunch of hellraising going on type party as I am a nice, quiet dinner party with formal wear.

I don't expect to get "business" done at a loud party anymore than I expect to get drunk, fuck the waitress and spill my drinks all over at a nice dinner or formal party........



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[PornoDoggy]

A convention hotel is used to throwing people out during shows/expos, so one or two such situations in the course of a show will only be a big deal if they are looking for a reason to avoid rescheduling a group.

They same cannot be said for the kind of moronic behavior like dropping shit onto a skylight.

I am looking forward to finding the old foggies group in January - my drinking/drugging days are behind me, but I can get pretty wild long about the 2nd double espresso ... :D

[SexPranks_Dave]

cool pics :okthumb:

[cj]

Originally posted by Billy@Aug 6 2003, 11:45 AM
Brad I think that is one reason why the player hater balls are so good, a small group that make the night one to remember.

Humm... PHB III ???

Who will be sponsors in January ??
:bwave:
you can bank on it!

i may even show up this time :D

the last show i attended, (august last year) I had a breakfast meeting all 3 mornings and was in bed by 2am every night (and home by 4 :P )

very tame show, i don't remember attending any 'parties', but we had lots of nice 'dinner parties' at serge's - that's my ideal show - good food, good wine (or soda water) and family for good company.

sounds like i didn't miss much this show!!

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 11:08 AM
Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

There was a little nudity and such, but it was very tame. Especially by todays standards.

Thing is, I love naked chicks, and live sex shows and things do not bother me as well. The problem is doing this in front of large groups of drunk webmasters, this causes the problems.... at least part of them.
hahahahahhaha,
in those days we had less nudity and...much more money!

nowadays the poor bastards substitute the lack of REAL money by abundance of pussy...

to each it's own
;-)))

uh-uh-uh!
;_)))

[ulfie]

Originally posted by cj@Aug 6 2003, 08:22 PM
[QUOTE=Billy,Aug 6 2003, 11:45 AM]- that's my ideal show - good food, good wine (or soda water) and family for good company.

hahaha, I brought 2 bottles of wine for Peaches and we polished them off in the lobby at the Westin at around 4 AM Saturday morning. At least she didn't have to carry them home. :hic:

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by ulfie@Aug 6 2003, 08:49 PM
[QUOTE=Billy,Aug 6 2003, 11:45 AM]- that's my ideal show - good food, good wine (or soda water) and family for good company.

hahaha, I brought 2 bottles of wine for Peaches and we polished them off in the lobby at the Westin at around 4 AM Saturday morning. At least she didn't have to carry them home. :hic:
You damn party animals!
You're ruining the industry! Drinking in public!!!

;-))))))))

[cj]

Originally posted by ulfie@Aug 6 2003, 08:49 PM
[QUOTE=Billy,Aug 6 2003, 11:45 AM]- that's my ideal show - good food, good wine (or soda water) and family for good company.

hahaha, I brought 2 bottles of wine for Peaches and we polished them off in the lobby at the Westin at around 4 AM Saturday morning. At least she didn't have to carry them home. :hic:
LOL

ya know, i don't think i've ever seen peaches drunk ... maybe i did miss something important at this show :biglaugh:

i'll have to give peaches my alcohol share at the phb so i can see it for myself :hic: maybe we can get her on ze piano with ze tiger! :P

[Hell Puppy]

Seems we're getting more people who wanna go to the conventions to get high on their own supply. They aren't there for business, they're there to party and for the occasional cheap thrill. I chuckle everytime I see pics from convention sex shows or photoshoots and you see guys stacked 4 deep holding their cameras over each other trying to get that shot of the action.

It's kinda sad that they're in this industry and are that desperate to get a pic of some nekkid ass....

[ulfie]

Originally posted by SykkBoy@Aug 6 2003, 08:54 PM
You damn party animals!
You're ruining the industry! Drinking in public!!!

;-))))))))
We had help with the wine. The ACHDebit guys were there as well. One of the best things I ever learned from Serge was to sit in the lobby. Everyone comes through eventually and if you have booze they are likely to stop and talk to you. :D

[SykkBoy]

Ah, but did you have condoms and STD tests?

[Hell Puppy]

I think everyone needs to learn to be a bit more conscious of where they are. And that goes both ways.

Based on the ads for the parties, I think it should be no surprise to find nudity and even sex in some of them. Now pissing is a new one, not my scene I woulda been out there. But that's really what everyone should do, exercise the same freedoms we hope users do, if you dont like it, dont look at it or leave.

But again, discretion, know where you are. If you're in rented space with controlled access, you can get wild. If in a more public location, like the beach, use your head. Now drugs are another story, do what you want in your room, but keep it off the premises at the parties, especially anything stronger than weed.

And one of my alltime pet peeves is people who wear their "industry" clothes outside with the normals, to the mall or dinner or whatever. We may perceive ourselves as business people who just happened to have sexy products. Make no mistake about the rest of the world though, they view us as nasty pornographers who they think might chases their children down the streets with a dildo in one hand and an industrial sized bottle of wet lube in the other.

[Evil Chris]

I see from reading multiple threads on multiple boards today and yesterday that there was no need for me to attend this most recent internext.

Anyone new wanna do some business? ICQ 342827
Cheers. :awinky:

[Billy]

Wow.. what a thread.. all from some piss !!

I have got a few emails about the PHB III and
I think I may have talked Mike into it so I will
be in touch !!

The PHB is one of the best parties that is offered at
the show, it's got great people, great food and you
know what.. a little business does get done at it
also !

More to follow as I get the info !

[Peaches]

If we can convince Forest to be quiet in a restaurant, there's no excuse for anyone else causing scenes out in public. B)

And one of my alltime pet peeves is people who wear their "industry" clothes outside with the normals, to the mall or dinner or whatever.

Thankfully my "industry" clothes are just as boring as my "normal" clothes. :D

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Billy@Aug 6 2003, 10:55 PM
Wow.. what a thread.. all from some piss !!

I have got a few emails about the PHB III and
I think I may have talked Mike into it so I will
be in touch !!

The PHB is one of the best parties that is offered at
the show, it's got great people, great food and you
know what.. a little business does get done at it
also !

More to follow as I get the info !
Billy,
will somebody jump nekkid out of the cake at PHB III
and fuck me silly without condom?

I want some REAL fun!
;-)))

[Vick]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Aug 6 2003, 09:17 PM
people who wear their "industry" clothes outside with the normals
.... does that include my
"Nobody Knows I'm A Lesbian" T-shirt?

If you remember that and know it's lovely in the pics ....
You've been in the business a while

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Vick@Aug 7 2003, 12:30 AM
.... does that include my
"Nobody Knows I'm A Lesbian" T-shirt?

If you remember that and know it's lovely in the pics ....
You've been in the business a while
Wasn't that just a year and a half ago? :huh:

[BradShaw]

Billy I would love to sponsor PHB III. Not sure if I am going to Vegas, but the PHB is a great concept and hopefully I will be invited this year!

[Vick]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 6 2003, 11:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 6 2003, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Aug 7 2003, 12:30 AM
.... does that include my
"Nobody Knows I'm A Lesbian" T-shirt?

If you remember that and know it's lovely in the pics ....
You've been in the business a while
Wasn't that just a year and a half ago? :huh:[/b][/quote]
I wore it at a few shows :D

If I go on the next show in Jan it's to ....
See old friends
See Zumanity (New Cirque show)
Attend the PHB III (best party overall)
Go to Gameworks party (great event sponsored by Max Cash <and others> for many years)
Get Peaches Drunk and find out her real name
and hopefully 1 (maybe 2) more reason<s> .... B)

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Vick@Aug 7 2003, 12:42 AM
If I go on the next show in Jan it's to ....
See old friends
See Zumanity (New Cirque show)
Attend the PHB III (best party overall)
Go to Gameworks party (great event sponsored by Max Cash <and others> for many years)
Get Peaches Drunk and find out her real name
and hopefully 1 (maybe 2) more reason<s> .... B)
All the same reasons I'd go - except instead of getting me drunk and finding out my real name (when I'm drunk, I usually can't REMEMBER my real name...plus I was sober when I was showing every one :P ), I'd FINALLY get to meet Vick! :bdance:

Is Zumanity the "adult" show?

After watching the special reality show, it doesn't SEEM like the performers make much money - do you have any guesses?

[Vick]

Is Zumanity the "adult" show?

Yes, with very unique seating

http://www.zumanity.com/en/home.asp

and we would have met before if you would have introduced us at PHB I :P

[cj]

Originally posted by Vick@Aug 6 2003, 11:59 PM
Is Zumanity the "adult" show?

Yes, with very unique seating

http://www.zumanity.com/en/home.asp
tres cool!!!!

looking forward to seeing this one ... its porn meets cirque du soleil :yowsa:

[JR]

i have been reading this and looked at the pics. the only thing that occured to me was that if someone found the notion of THAT woman pulling down her britches in front of everyone and pissing into a cup, fun and entertaining... they may want to take a step back and start re-assessing their values and priorities.

[Forest]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Aug 6 2003, 11:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Aug 6 2003, 11:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Billy@Aug 6 2003, 10:55 PM
Wow.. what a thread.. all from some piss !!

I have got a few emails about the PHB III and
I think I may have talked Mike into it so I will
be in touch !!

The PHB is one of the best parties that is offered at
the show, it's got great people, great food and you
know what.. a little business does get done at it
also !

More to follow as I get the info !
Billy,
will somebody jump nekkid out of the cake at PHB III
and fuck me silly without condom?

I want some REAL fun!
;-)))[/b][/quote]
dont look at me

:rolleyes: :P

[Sabby]

ewwww
I think pissing all over the place is just nasty.

Sabby:)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Sabby@Aug 7 2003, 04:46 AM
ewwww
I think pissing all over the place is just nasty.

Sabby:)
Sabby,
as you probably already suspected,
women do NOT have the presission instruments to piss men do
;-)))

[Ironhorse]

Looks like Bacchus is back in the game :okthumb:

Can someone please pass the grapes?



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[gonzo]

hmmm the irony of it all is that theres this huge thread all over piss.

I thought Serge loved piss!

[LittleC]

what a threat...

I love porn, I love parties, I love business.....

Why is it ok to SELL pee content and when you see it in front of you it is NOT ok ???

That's what I call typicall American mentality.

If it would have been my party and my boat, the guy would have been in trouble pissing over my furniture...haha

But, the guy is props hired by someone....he is just doing the job we ALL make money off !!!

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 08:51 AM
That's what I call typicall American mentality.


Interesting. What are some more examples of "typical American mentality"?

[Peaches]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 09:51 AM
what a threat...

I love porn, I love parties, I love business.....

Why is it ok to SELL pee content and when you see it in front of you it is NOT ok ???

Claudia, I thought you were going to be there! I wanted to FINALLY meet you. :(

Peeing content has been phased out by most of the larger paysites. ARS got rid of their pee site over a year ago and I honestly can't think of another "big" affiliate program that offers it.

That said, I made the remark several times that I have ZERO problem with it. But the fact is that I watched someone pee on the carpet of a boat that was leased by their host for the party. In looking at the pictures, it seems she WAS aiming for the cup, but as Serge pointed out, we women ain't so great at aiming. B) When "visiting' someone (which is how I look at it when you're at a party given by someone else), I try to adhere to what they consider good taste. My brother and SIL don't drink. Therefore I would NEVER drink at one of their parties. I daresay Lensman and CE wouldn't want you to come to their homes and pee on their carpet - or even in a cup or beer bottle - so IMHO, it shouldn't be done when they host a party either. I never saw that party advertised as a "content grabbing" party, which it seems it was treated as by some.

It's all about respect.

[Sharpie]

Did anyone else but me miss the fact that there was NO hospitality room this time? This type of incident is why. The attendees seem to have little respect for the obligations and liability of the sponsors. Many check their brains at the door or ' just don't give a damn.

I hope hospitality rooms are not a total thing of the past, because that is many times where some real business is done - but, I can't fault sponsors for not wanting to do it anymore.

[sarah_webinc]

Originally posted by Colin+Aug 7 2003, 05:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Aug 7 2003, 05:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 08:51 AM
That's what I call typicall American mentality.


Interesting. What are some more examples of "typical American mentality"?[/b][/quote]
behaving in public, i suppose...I can't talk for other nations but the Brits are pretty big on that too.

[LittleC]

hehe...ok...colin, I could see that comment from me was waiting for a reaction...

typicall american I mean with this :

Like the law in USA.

over 65% of our traffic is comming from USA, most porn companies are from people from USA...and still the government wants to exclude porn from the country......???

and as far as our business:

It's ok to sell it but not ok to do it ???

thats all......nothing too nasty towards USA Colin, but I must say my experience with the mentality has not always been a good one. I believe that European people value long term relationships and handshakes more the American people do.

But I might be wrong....I sometimes have a bad feeling with who to trust..so, I just take my loss and move on..I call it business risks now days...hehe....

But my bank account can handle a little more than a few years ago..so, the mistakes I feel less than a couple of years back..if you understand what I mean.


Peaches,

I would love to meet you too !

I am against any kind of content which is degrading woman, vomit, abusing animals, girls, and pregnant woman...

I believe that porn should be happy content, between adults and that should be the border.

I have been saying this for a few years already. I just have the feeling now business is getting more difficult that suddenly people realise that it might can be too late & changing their thoughts and opinion on things.


But - I don't want to bitch all the time ....I don't have the wisdom either...I hope performers will be treated nicely because they are the reason We all make money !!!

whenever you in europe please come visit me !

Love Claudia

[Mike AI]

Little C, its not the problem of peeing per say. Its peeing on someone else private property - in essence destroying it. IF you are fine with peeing, would it be ok if I come to your house and pee on your bed? Or pee on your new rugs?

There is a time and place from everything.....

[LittleC]

Oeps, I forgot something..

The reasons why I am not attending shows is because of a few reasons:

1. I think the shows are too expensive.

No, I am not bankrupt, Interclimax is doing very well and I am trying to keep it that way !

As you can see on our websites : http://www.camsathome.com we give each Month a 1st price to the best webcam girl worth of $ 5.000 US a vacation for 2 persons, and a 2nd price for around 2.000 US and a 3th price around 500.
These tickets are booked by us andthe models will bring pics back so, we can show that to the members who voted for them.

2. I do hava business to run & I want to run our business as best as I can, this means I can not travel all the time.

3. I don't like to get on a plane at the moment. You never know what can happen. Plus the shows in USA can get out of hand.....

That is one thing Bradshaw can be right about.

[LittleC]

Mike Al,

you are right about that, like I said I would not like the guy peeing on my furniture. !!!

C.

[Winetalk.com]

LittleC,
do you pee on cam?

[gonzo]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 05:51 AM
what a threat...

I love porn, I love parties, I love business.....

Why is it ok to SELL pee content and when you see it in front of you it is NOT ok ???

That's what I call typicall American mentality.

If it would have been my party and my boat, the guy would have been in trouble pissing over my furniture...haha

But, the guy is props hired by someone....he is just doing the job we ALL make money off !!!
Actually C.... they both work for Lens.
I know Kayla personally and she told me that Lens dared her to do it so she went for it.

Personally I would have made like Peaches and stayed clear of the waterworks.

However...it doesnt surprise me or shock me at all. Thats why I chose to go to Forest's as opposed to GFY.

Different strokes for different folks.

I expect to see most anything at these shows. After all we do work in the PORN industry. However I am like HP & Mike AI in the respect that there is a time and place for everything.

And as most of you know Ive made my own public shows of "awe and shock" to stir the buzz. I guess I shoulda stood at the keg at Forests house and drank while taking a piss at the same time.

it would have been more entertaining than hearing that shimpy dude yell at all the models.

[LittleC]

lol serge,
I wish I could I think I would make a lot of money ....hehe

Our webcamgirls can pee in a cup if they want I dont mind. Most of them use applejuice...

I dont allow them to drink it or do vomit or other stuff..

Peeing is not my thing...you know what i like right Serge ?!?

B)

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 10:17 AM


Peeing is not my thing...you know what i like right Serge ?!?

B)
I do...I was told that you'd like the most to make a wild scene with me...and few other folks of our choosing
;-))

tell me it ain't so!
;-)))

[LittleC]

of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 10:25 AM
of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi
beware what you ask for...she SMOKES alot!
;-)))

ok, it's a deal,
she loves doube teaming on me...just bring your own baseball bat
;-)))

[LittleC]

Deal ! :D

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 09:41 AM
still the government wants to exclude porn from the country......???
They do? I didn't get that memo. How does the US government "want to exclude porn from the country"? If THEY want do it, why haven't they done it?

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 09:41 AM
I believe that European people value long term relationships and handshakes more the American people do.
Yeah, you have to be careful. There are definitely a few Americans I wouldn't shake hands with. Email me at colin @ pleasurelabs.com and I'll send you a list. Hope I can be of help.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Colin+Aug 7 2003, 12:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Aug 7 2003, 12:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 09:41 AM
I believe that European people value long term relationships and handshakes more the American people do.
Yeah, you have to be careful. There are definitely a few Americans I wouldn't shake hands with. Email me at colin @ pleasurelabs.com and I'll send you a list. Hope I can be of help.[/b][/quote]
I hope I'M on that list - I want HUGS, not handshakes from you! :P

[Robert]

:blink:

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Robert@Aug 7 2003, 11:33 AM
:blink:
I'd shake hands with YOU any day ;-)

[LittleC]

Colin,

yeah lol send me the list - I'll send you mine !

for all duplicates 1 point. :agrin:

to be honoust - I don't mean it in a bad way !

there are diferences in cultures and it took me a while to get used to that.

But, I guess that goes both ways right ?

--------------------------------------

About the memo. I might have been reading the wrong memo. But isn't PayPal for example entitled to exclude porn / adult companies ?

If I use a bank here in holland and the bank says sorry you are selling porn we dont want you - they can not do that here.

That's what I ment. Sorry sometimes my English fucks me up.

How was the show for you btw Colin ?



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[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 12:41 PM
there are diferences in cultures and it took me a while to get used to that.

But, I guess that goes both ways right ?
That is correct.

I think the differences are overly magnified by many though. Europe and US culture are remarkably more similar than say Japan and the US or China and Europe.

Are you sure you are used to it? ;-) ;-)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 12:41 PM
How was the show for you btw Colin ?
I had an excellent show. We already have some new business because of it which is a rarity on less than a week's turnaround in my experience.

I only went to one party - and only for a few minutes. Spent a lot of time on the convention floor, lunches, dinners, and so on.

My take is that either there is business there you don't have and it's time to get to work or you are doing business with everyone in which case it is good to manage existing relationships. I spent about 80% of my time with people I already do business with and 20% with potential new partners.

I'm big on shows and boards. I believe the value is always there.

[LittleC]

Let's say my wallet is used to a certain behaviour now....

And my ego is big enough to ger hurt once in a while :awinky:

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 12:41 PM
But isn't PayPal for example entitled to exclude porn / adult companies ?

If I use a bank here in holland and the bank says sorry you are selling porn we dont want you - they can not do that here.
That is quite interesting.

Should a society limit the freedom of businesses or people? Seems like a toss-up. Telling a business it can't exclude porn is also a limitation of freedom - of a different sort.

There are no right answers.

[LittleC]

That is tru colin, and it is always nice to see the faces you do bizz with.

you have the luxury of being in a country where you can fly within a few hours to be at any show.

I made the decision to keep on building and expanding. Hiring more people, take a look in other business fields like tv, etc.

that is costing money and a lot of time.

I am hoping that people will take our products because they are good and making money. If my business does not survive because I do not visit shows I think it is time to do something else. (this again I do not mean negative)

I have a lot of nice memories of the shows I went too & I met a lot of nice people and got lots of business from the shows.

But Iif I would make it to Vegas next year I would love to invite you for a dinner ! I would love to discuss wit you the future of our business !!!

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 01:00 PM
If my business does not survive because I do not visit shows I think it is time to do something else. (this again I do not mean negative)

I have a lot of nice memories of the shows I went too & I met a lot of nice people and got lots of business from the shows.

But Iif I would make it to Vegas next year I would love to invite you for a dinner ! I would love to discuss wit you the future of our business !!!
Oh, I didn't mean to that extreme. Your business is fine I am sure. You have a great reputation. I only hear good things about you and your company. You've been working hard at it for many years.

I am fortunate to have great partners that work really hard on stuff while I am in Vegas, Miami and other places.

Love to meet for dinner. Hope you are there next year. :-)

[LittleC]

Should a society limit the freedom of businesses or people? Seems like a toss-up. Telling a business it can't exclude porn is also a limitation of freedom - of a different sort.
-------------------------------------------

hhmmmmm.....I don't have an answer for that - you got me there ! 1 point for you ! :)

It just works different here. As long I don't do illegal activities a bank is considered to be for everybody.

PayPal has accepted money from adult business owners and than suddenly they can say: we dont want you anymore thank you for your business, thank you for your money but you can GFY now...

what do you think about that ? I think that is wrong !

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 01:06 PM
PayPal has accepted money from adult business owners and than suddenly they can say: we dont want you anymore thank you for your business, thank you for your money but you can GFY now...

what do you think about that ? I think that is wrong !
I have this dichotomous nature.

Of course I would like everything in the world to work to my benefit so I'd prefer PayPal to accept adult transactions. I think it should be their right though - even though that is to my detriment.

[LittleC]

Nice opinion !

Hope to see you someday !

Bye & was nice speaking with you !

[Almighty Colin]

Why did Pay Pal stop accepting adult transactions? Ethics or because of chargeback difficulties? It wouldn't benefit anyone to force Pay Pal into an unprofitable business. If it's a good one, the possibilities are now open for a competitor.

[*KK*]

Paypal got out because their idea of fraud control doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a fraudulent webmaster or affiliates abilities.

[Billy]

Colin, I sure hope you are going to make it to the best party in Vegas.. the PHB III !

I am sure we can get you some business at that party : )

Heck with Peaches as a date who knows where you will end up !!

[JonStern]

I am new to this board, but been in the industry for a while. I just have one question ragarding parties of this nature (with the live sex amnd shit)....

Why is it a group of people that see porn all the time for a living, work around porn all the time and are at a porn industry convention, want to climb the walls and crawl over people to take all the pics they can of people having sex? Seems a little funny to me....the funnier thing is, when I see it right in front of me at a porn convention, or anywhere for that matter outside of my bedroom, I find the bar more interesting...

hehe

Jon

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by JonStern@Aug 8 2003, 12:27 AM
I am new to this board, but been in the industry for a while. I just have one question ragarding parties of this nature (with the live sex amnd shit)....

Why is it a group of people that see porn all the time for a living, work around porn all the time and are at a porn industry convention, want to climb the walls and crawl over people to take all the pics they can of people having sex? Seems a little funny to me....the funnier thing is, when I see it right in front of me at a porn convention, or anywhere for that matter outside of my bedroom, I find the bar more interesting...

hehe

Jon
Because a lot of those people aren't in this business only for the money... ;-)))

now, give me two content models dressed like vampires and it might get my attention

[Sabby]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 10:25 AM
of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi
beware what you ask for...she SMOKES alot!
;-)))

ok, it's a deal,
she loves doube teaming on me...just bring your own baseball bat
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Sergie I think you need ME to join the team too! and I will bring my special bat.

http://private.amsterdamlivexxx.com/modelpages/imallboobs2.jpg

My bat is verrrrry popular on Interclimax!

I am a total FREAK, lol, but I do not drink piss!


Sabby:)

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Sabby+Aug 8 2003, 12:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sabby @ Aug 8 2003, 12:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 10:25 AM
of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi
beware what you ask for...she SMOKES alot!
;-)))

ok, it's a deal,
she loves doube teaming on me...just bring your own baseball bat
;-)))
Sergie I think you need ME to join the team too! and I will bring my special bat.

http://private.amsterdamlivexxx.com/modelpages/imallboobs2.jpg

My bat is verrrrry popular on Interclimax!

I am a total FREAK, lol, but I do not drink piss!


Sabby:)[/b][/quote]
sabby...I'm.....speechless...

[Sabby]

LOL...

Yes... I know....

You all thought I was such a nice girl, right? :)


Sabby:)

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Billy@Aug 8 2003, 12:18 AM
Colin, I sure hope you are going to make it to the best party in Vegas.. the PHB III !

I am sure we can get you some business at that party : )
Of course!

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by *KK*@Aug 7 2003, 10:51 PM
Paypal got out because their idea of fraud control doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a fraudulent webmaster or affiliates abilities.
I think the law has no business getting involved then. Forcing businesses to stay in business to their detriment will cause more problems than are solved.

Obviously there is a point where there must be protective regulations. The banking industry is heavily protected against their own stupidity ;-)

[Sabby]

Billy sweetie... Can I be invited again to PHBIII...

Even though I am a "content"... I promise not to pee on the furniture :)))

http://www.oprano.com/reporter/01082002phb/DSC01584.JPG


Sabby:)

[LittleC]

hehe Sabby, I bet you can pee on anyone's furniture !!!

even on mine ! haha :awinky:

[DannyCox]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 08:08 AM
Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

There was a little nudity and such, but it was very tame. Especially by todays standards.


Hey all!

Carol doesn't even remember that picture! Anyone know who any of the other girls are? The only person we recognize is dear old "Joe Liberty" (Lovey - only the old-timers will remember that one!)

The shows have changed quite a bit, and not to my liking. That's one of the main reasons I send people down and only attend occasionally. You can see it in the various message boards, with 90% of the "webmasters" talking about parties, and not the show or business. Yes, we'll like to party, and we have had some great ones (Carol & Serge naked in the pool at MikeAI's party in Florida in 1998) :awinky:

The first party I can remember was the one JoeE held at the Clarion, when he had the strippers dancing on the tables. That's when his credit card wouldn't cover the cost (it was a lot higher than expected), and the hotel wouldn't take his check and anted to throw him out. Too funny! (for us at least).

I've always preferred the smaller, more intimate suite parties and receptions. You can have fun, hang with the people you like, and get some real business done. Ah, the good old days (Christ, I sound like my father!)

Danny

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:39 PM
Yes, we'll like to party, and we have had some great ones (Carol & Serge naked in the pool at MikeAI's party in Florida in 1998) :awinky:


Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh my!!!!

Give Carol my best regards,
I wish I got closer to her in that pool,
I thought it wouldn't be our last time nekkid together
;-)))

but...I learned a valauble lesson,
NEVER POSTPONE!
;-)))

[DannyCox]

Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:47 PM
Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....
Danny,
if you need to find that pic to verify that I weared the condom -
I did NOT!
;-))

but...I didn't indulge either!
;_)))

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Aug 8 2003, 11:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Aug 8 2003, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:47 PM
Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....
Danny,
if you need to find that pic to verify that I weared the condom -
I did NOT!
;-))

but...I didn't indulge either!
;_)))[/b][/quote]
Oh shit another condoms and tests thread!

I bet Gregg lined up that tallent too!

[Joesho1]

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 6 2003, 08:19 AM
Things like this are the reason I did not attend Miami and may never attend another show. There is a serious lack of a professional business atmosphere. I think we are seeing more businessmen staying home, or doing private affairs at shows, thus these idiots stick out even more.

I also heard the open use of drugs was rampant. One thing to do drugs on the down low, it is another to do them out in public and gloat about it.

You have that idiots like easton who OD's on coke and was back at the hotel doing more coke the next day, and bragging about it on the chat boards.

One day a drug bust will happen at a show, and some innocent people will be caught in the middle. Limo gets pulled over full of coke, or a small room party where coke is everywhere, cops will arrest everyone. There are some people in this business with serious drug problems.
Wow Bradshaw you sounded like you should organize a union... those were bold yet Intelligent statements! bravo to you sir! :)

[XXXPhoto]

Originally posted by DannyCox+Aug 8 2003, 11:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DannyCox @ Aug 8 2003, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 08:08 AM
Colin, I
http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

[/b][/quote]
Oh sure the girls are nice... but where is the pic of 'OldFold' peeking out the
window of the YNOT 'suite' and beating off behind the curtain?

[JFK]

Originally posted by SykkBoy@Aug 6 2003, 09:38 AM

I've been to "real" business conferences that were the same way. The parties were insane, out of hand and filled with drugs, hookers and all vices exploited.

Everyone thinks these parties are the downfall of this industry? No, the downfall is shady business practices, the VISA monopoly, the bullshit billing tricks, the LARGE amount of free hardcore porn available, overeducated surfers and our whole taboo factor (of course, the taboo factor is what keeps us in business).


Right On!

:okthumb:

[Billy]

This picture really scares me..

http://oprano.com/reporter/pics/oldfold.jpg

I don't know what to say when I see it.....


Sabby.. you can always play on my piano !!

[JFK]

Originally posted by Sharpie@Aug 7 2003, 06:30 AM
Did anyone else but me miss the fact that there was NO hospitality room this time? This type of incident is why. The attendees seem to have little respect for the obligations and liability of the sponsors. Many check their brains at the door or ' just don't give a damn.

I hope hospitality rooms are not a total thing of the past, because that is many times where some real business is done - but, I can't fault sponsors for not wanting to do it anymore.
Sharpie, I think most of the hospitality suites are usually in Vegas. Even there some of the larger companies discontinued them, because there did not seem to be a return on their investment. :stout:

[BradShaw]

Originally posted by JFK+Aug 10 2003, 04:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JFK @ Aug 10 2003, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Sharpie@Aug 7 2003, 06:30 AM
Did anyone else but me miss the fact that there was NO hospitality room this time? This type of incident is why. The attendees seem to have little respect for the obligations and liability of the sponsors. Many check their brains at the door or ' just don't give a damn.

I hope hospitality rooms are not a total thing of the past, because that is many times where some real business is done - but, I can't fault sponsors for not wanting to do it anymore.
Sharpie, I think most of the hospitality suites are usually in Vegas. Even there some of the larger companies discontinued them, because there did not seem to be a return on their investment. :stout:[/b][/quote]
And companies get a return on a investment spending $50k on a party? uh huh..... Big dick contest days are OVER.

[Billy]

Brad have I told you lately that the PHB III will be a lot cheapter then 50K ??

Just wondering : )

Shit how many days till Vegas ???

[Sharpie]

and damn it Billy - I had better be invited again! I am still in running for the same award i got last year :rolleyes:

[Mike AI]

See Serge, Oprano had a presence at the show!

http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures.com/miami03/showfloor/z01770.jpg

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:39 PM
Carol doesn't even remember that picture! Anyone know who any of the other girls are?

..


The first party I can remember was the one JoeE held at the Clarion, when he had the strippers dancing on the tables.
The blonde in the back and the girl on the other side of Lovey from Carol were the same girls that were dancing at JoeE's party. JD brought them - pretty sure they were from Houston. Can'r remember either of their names.

[JohnIP]

Well Shit if Danny can come out of the woodwork so can I,but just this once;)

I agree with almost all the old crowd has said here...and have had the same policy Danny has had...went to this last show however and understand now why I had that policy;) Although it was GREAT to see old Friends!

One thing to remember the third and fourth generation folks are very different then those that came before,nature of mentality between originators and followers, and as I told Brad in ICQ the other day, he's wastin his breath on the bulk of the Get Your Fries here Generation(GFY)...most are pimp wanna be's(and I mean that in every sense of the Godfather definition;)....JoeE wanna be's(with 90% less brains)...No sense of respect for accomplishment...heaven forbid they would be caught "Judging" anyone..there small timers who are probably at the pinnacle of there careers touting 100 posts on GFY and peein in cups.

Btw those girls in the pics were indeed JD's AND Porndaddys.I had hired them for the first Ynot suite In Orlando..I think they were the Texas Tease Girls.

[Mike AI]

John it was good seeing you in Florida!

I agree 100% with your post!

I hope that you will post more often now that you took the time to make that nice sig! :D

Seriously, lets talk this week about your dialer solution.... I need something for PureCash!

[JohnIP]

ROFL...Thanks Mike...was great seein you and your crew too.I didnt think Billy recognized me;) Dude the sig is cut and paste..I could NEVER have figured that out...dont ya remeber how bad the original html was on Inpraise;)

I drive up tomorrow to Atlanta man..Be in all week ..Lets hook up!!

[Forest]

johnip was in florida?

god i remeber my first johnip meet at my first fl show

you still in NJ john?

how is insite doing?

[Sharpie]

Hi there John. Was good to see you at Internext. Long time no see. Really missed Sammi! Heard she had retired from 'the show scene. Guess I am gonna have to come to Atlanta to get to see some of my old friends.

What is it going to take to get some of the 'ole timers out? I really want to know. That is the part of shows I look forward to. Missed seeing MFold too - didn't have any dance partners.

[Peaches]

John, it was GREAT seeing you again - you look mahvelous! B) I need to get back down to Atlanta while you're IN town and have a get together with the whole gang.

And Fay, get your behind up here and make me leave the woods to mingle. :awinky:

[dantheman]

I see a atlanta gathering coming together, let me know, I'll be there :rokk:

[Mike AI]

We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 07:06 AM
We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:
Count me in...Ill bring my fur!

[Forest]

Originally posted by gonzo+Aug 11 2003, 10:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Aug 11 2003, 10:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 07:06 AM
We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:
Count me in...Ill bring my fur![/b][/quote]
ill fly up for that one!!!

minus the fur

well sort of

http://www.unmotivated.com/FL_2003/pages/1...506_IMG_JPG.htm (http://www.unmotivated.com/FL_2003/pages/105-0506_IMG_JPG.htm)

:lol:

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 11:06 AM
We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:
When is that?

[Mike AI]

Weekend of Oct. 18th.....


Might be good to have a little get together!!

[dantheman]

first dibs on sweet-t's condo in buckhead :nyanya:

[Forest]

when is the vancouver show??

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 11 2003, 11:15 AM
when is the vancouver show??
Vancouver's the NEXT weekend.

Sounds like a plan to me - my HS girlfriend's and I are planning a weekend in Sept/Oct in NC - I'll make sure it's NOT on the 18th. Last year the leaves peaked on the 25th - we've had so much rain this year it might be different, but it will still be BEEYOUTEEFUL up here then! :)

[Forest]

Awesome!!!!

if someone puts it together Ill go!!!

I miss you guys already even if my liver doesnt

:P :biglaugh:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 11 2003, 07:20 AM
Awesome!!!!

if someone puts it together Ill go!!!

I miss you guys already even if my liver doesnt

:P :biglaugh:
Theys a lot of webmasters here.

If Purecash wanted to throw a launch party might be a douable thing...

[Mike AI]

first dibs on sweet-t's condo in buckhead

Dan you should know better, I put in my reservations with Casa De T last year. We do the NO/Atlanta thing every year back and forth.

Gonzo - I hope PureCash gets its full launch before then - but rounding up some roudy webmasters to drink with and have some fun... sounds like a good plan to me!!

[Forest]

gonzo

we may have something ready for launch by then

Thats why im going to vancouver

[dantheman]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 10:35 AM
first dibs on sweet-t's condo in buckhead

Dan you should know better, I put in my reservations with Casa De T last year. We do the NO/Atlanta thing every year back and forth.

Gonzo - I hope PureCash gets its full launch before then - but rounding up some roudy webmasters to drink with and have some fun... sounds like a good plan to me!!
yeah I do know, last time I talked to tony, he said I could use it anytime EXCEPT for the falcons saints game this fall. :) I think I'll be able to find a suitable bridge to crash under :ph34r:

I DO think we should put something together, it would be a blast :rokk:

[Peaches]

Originally posted by dantheman@Aug 11 2003, 11:50 AM
I think I'll be able to find a suitable bridge to crash under :ph34r:

I DO think we should put something together, it would be a blast :rokk:
I've got room for ya, big fella! B)

[dantheman]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 11 2003, 10:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 11 2003, 10:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--dantheman@Aug 11 2003, 11:50 AM
I think I'll be able to find a suitable bridge to crash under :ph34r:

I DO think we should put something together, it would be a blast :rokk:
I've got room for ya, big fella! B)[/b][/quote]
sweet. nice to have wifes around that WILL still let me in thier house :D

[ulfie]

I'm glad she's married to both of us. Now I only have to buy 500 acres in Montana instead of 1000. We need to find about 10 more husbands for Peaches. :D

[Forest]

Originally posted by ulfie@Aug 11 2003, 11:07 AM
I'm glad she's married to both of us. Now I only have to buy 500 acres in Montana instead of 1000. We need to find about 10 more husbands for Peaches. :D
Ill take thurdays if no one esle wants them



:wnw:

[ulfie]

Originally posted by Forest+Aug 11 2003, 11:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Aug 11 2003, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--ulfie@Aug 11 2003, 11:07 AM
I'm glad she's married to both of us. Now I only have to buy 500 acres in Montana instead of 1000. We need to find about 10 more husbands for Peaches. :D
Ill take thurdays if no one esle wants them



:wnw:[/b][/quote]
Thursday is golf night so it works for me. :agrin:

[Forest]

Originally posted by ulfie+Aug 11 2003, 11:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ulfie @ Aug 11 2003, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Forest@Aug 11 2003, 11:08 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--ulfie@Aug 11 2003, 11:07 AM
I'm glad she's married to both of us. Now I only have to buy 500 acres in Montana instead of 1000. We need to find about 10 more husbands for Peaches. :D
Ill take thurdays if no one esle wants them



:wnw:
Thursday is golf night so it works for me. :agrin:[/b][/quote]
SHIT wait I meant Wednesday!!!!!

i need to learn how to play

[Peaches]

A few more husbands and I'll OWN Montana! Don't forget, I'm also looking at Wyoming and Idaho, so there's room for more. :okthumb:

[*KK*]

ulfie, I just cannot get over how slim and trim you are now. Wow :)

[Mike AI]

ulfie, I just cannot get over how slim and trim you are now. Wow

Back off KK, Billy says he gets first dibs on the NEW Ulfie!!

:zoinks: :lol:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Forest@Aug 11 2003, 07:38 AM
gonzo

we may have something ready for launch by then

Thats why im going to vancouver
Vancooter?

Cool! Mike if your serious Ill see what the local interest is. Shemp had a gathering up her elast year and it was a big smash...except for the chocolate train.

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 08:26 AM
ulfie, I just cannot get over how slim and trim you are now. Wow

Back off KK, Billy says he gets first dibs on the NEW Ulfie!!

:zoinks: :lol:
Billy can back off dammit!

[ulfie]

Originally posted by *KK*@Aug 11 2003, 11:24 AM
ulfie, I just cannot get over how slim and trim you are now. Wow :)
Thanks, One day I bent over and I had a hard time tying my shoes. That's the day I said it's time to do something about this. I've dropped about 45 pounds and still have another 20 to go but at least I can walk 9 holes of golf now and not feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. :D

Peaches, powerball jackpot is going back up again so when I win maybe we can afford one of those states. I'll take one side and you can have the other and we'll get together twice a year at shows. It will be the perfect marraige. ;)

[Billy]

KK.. you know Mike is lying.. I have my eyes still set on Brad.. or Chris or Toolz.. or KC... or ok.. Ulfie : )

[dantheman]

damn that's one list I think I'm glad I missed :ph34r:

[Buff]

Originally posted by dantheman@Aug 11 2003, 02:58 PM
damn that's one list I think I'm glad I missed :ph34r:
No shit!

[ulfie]

Originally posted by dantheman@Aug 11 2003, 03:58 PM
damn that's one list I think I'm glad I missed :ph34r:
Grimm is the one you have to watch not Billy. Of course I've had wild nights with both of them so maybe it's a toss up. :hic:

[SykkBoy]

I think I've come to realize that the fact I was a concert promoter for a couple years and had to babysit musicians that I'm a bit more hardened to bizarre antics ;-)

I remember a group, who'll remain nameless, who had a groupie take a shit in a jar....then they sealed the jar and played catch with it, the point being to not drop the jar. The jar tossing was done in the hallway of the hotel by the way...and ended up in the lobby when the guitarist (who I really want to name, but can't ;-)) dropped the jar...

In my own band days we'd tell groupies to make out with their female friends before being invited backstage and some times, we still didn't let them back stage...and we weren't even that good of a band......

I'm so glad I escaped that world and fell into the cleancut world of internet pornography ;-)

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by gonzo+Aug 11 2003, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Aug 11 2003, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Forest@Aug 11 2003, 07:38 AM
gonzo

we may have something ready for launch by then

Thats why im going to vancouver
Vancooter?

Cool! Mike if your serious Ill see what the local interest is. Shemp had a gathering up her elast year and it was a big smash...except for the chocolate train.[/b][/quote]
I'm in.

:gbounce:

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Aug 11 2003, 09:42 PM
I'm in.

:gbounce:
Uh huh - yeah, sure...how many gatherings have you passed up? Vegas, Atlanta, Florida.... :ph34r:

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Billy@Aug 11 2003, 12:17 PM
KK.. you know Mike is lying.. I have my eyes still set on Brad.. or Chris or Toolz.. or KC... or ok.. Ulfie : )
Hahaha, you mean anyone you can get toasted enough to pee in the cup ;)

[DAMNMAN]

I guess no one here was around for the party in Hollywood 1999 the Joe E and the gang had on the cruise ship. Huh?

I seem to remember a lot of girls pissing directly into mouths in the halls of that ship. (Bypassing the cup part >;_0 )
The Fetish Factory provided the talent for a fetsih party and the show was talked about for years afterwards.

My wife Shannon Rush got the spanking of her life on that boat. :wnw:

As far as the bitch pissing in the cup goes, what the fuck do you expect?

80% of the people at the show were newbies who have never made dime 1 from this business and are in it for the fun.

As far as the guy drinking the pee goes, in all fairness they did run out of seltzer!!! :nyanya:

[Hell Puppy]

Originally posted by Peaches+Aug 11 2003, 09:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Aug 11 2003, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Hell Puppy@Aug 11 2003, 09:42 PM
I'm in.

:gbounce:
Uh huh - yeah, sure...how many gatherings have you passed up? Vegas, Atlanta, Florida.... :ph34r:[/b][/quote]
I'm not allowed off my leash very often. I'm prone to severe cases of wander lust.

[tara-scorescash]

Originally posted by Hooper@Aug 6 2003, 08:01 AM
That's just trashy and disturbing.
I agree!!! Thats nasty!

[kath]

Last year I spoke with one of the main coordinators @ the Venetian about our group. She said that believe-it-or-not the shoe salesmen and ladies' Tupperware groups were rowdier than we were over the years.

I wonder if she was privy to such goings on as the topic of discussion here, but all-in-all it seems we do NOT have the worst reputation.

True, it's like my 14 year old saying "yeah but so-and-so did (something worse)" and expecting me not to punish him because somebody else's kid behaves worse than he did, but perhaps the hotels do not see us as badly as we are seeing ourselves. True, it's distasteful, shocking & an image we don't want the world to have of our industry (like they don't already have a pre-set notion about us), but we can't control everyone.

Good point about a lot of it being newbies & folks just there for the "fun" and "party." I think that's a LOT of our problems at public events like this one. :headwall:

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by DAMNMAN@Aug 11 2003, 09:56 PM


My wife Shannon Rush got the spanking of her life on that boat. :wnw:


fuck!
and I missed it all for a game of Black Jack with JB&Webfather....
;-)))

fuckin' money...I'd be happier watching Shannon
;-)))

[ulfie]

Originally posted by kath@Aug 12 2003, 11:38 AM
Last year I spoke with one of the main coordinators @ the Venetian about our group. She said that believe-it-or-not the shoe salesmen and ladies' Tupperware groups were rowdier than we were over the years.

You make a good point there. I got to the show early on Thursday and had a couple hours to kill before Dantheman got there so I went and sat at the bar. I was talking to the bartender about working at the show and she said she requested to work it again because last year she made more money on the weekend of the show than any other. She also said the hotel agreed to hold the show because AVN gaurenteed they would sell out the hotel every year for 5 years. So I'm sure you can look forward to at least 3 more shows at the Westin.

Another interesting thing from that bar encounter was the guy sitting next to me was there for the show also. I asked him what he did and he said he was a carpenter but he had heard about the show and came down to see it. He had absolutely no business being at that show. He registered for 1 reason, to go to the parties. There's really no way to stop that but I'm sure some of the people that get out of hand fall into that category.