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I was talking to a guy about a webmaster program Im creating.
It will have a payout of $50 per trial join for the more productive webmasters.
He tells me people wont trust me.....theyll think im shaving.
Are webmasters generally this suspicious?
How do I overcome this, as I have every intention of providing what is promised and retaining quality webmasters.
What the consensus?
Cheers
Digipimp
06-10-2003, 05:31 AM
I think it's the newbies that are attracted to the high payouts, most companies offer the high payouts because many others are already and to draw the newbies in and then they shave your ass off. Experienced webmasters realize this and prefer reasonable payouts that both the sponsor and affiliate can benefit from and is not as likely to be shaved since the sponsor doesn't have to save his ass on offering $50 payouts on trials.
"my bitch better have my money
not "some", not "half"... but ALL my cash
cause if she dont...
i'm gonna put my foot right dead in that ass"
- Unknown Pimp.
Originally posted by Digipimp@Jun 10 2003, 04:39 AM
I think it's the newbies that are attracted to the high payouts, most companies offer the high payouts because many others are already and to draw the newbies in and then they shave your ass off. Experienced webmasters realize this and prefer reasonable payouts that both the sponsor and affiliate can benefit from and is not as likely to be shaved since the sponsor doesn't have to save his ass on offering $50 payouts on trials.
If a company has a high payout they must be shaving?
Only newbies are attracted to high payouts?
What are you basing these statements on?
Winetalk.com
06-10-2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by cj+Jun 10 2003, 05:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Jun 10 2003, 05:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Digipimp@Jun 10 2003, 04:39 AM
I think it's the newbies that are attracted to the high payouts, most companies offer the high payouts because many others are already and to draw the newbies in and then they shave your ass off. Experienced webmasters realize this and prefer reasonable payouts that both the sponsor and affiliate can benefit from and is not as likely to be shaved since the sponsor doesn't have to save his ass on offering $50 payouts on trials.
If a company has a high payout they must be shaving?
Only newbies are attracted to high payouts?
What are you basing these statements on?[/b][/quote]
he is baseing it on Serge's 18 cents per UVOVUN payouts
;-))
worked for me and Xpics
;-)))
Pimp I generally follow this chain of thought:
If they are paying you, no matter what the payout is. You'll be getting shaved. <_<
From feedback here and elsewhere im assuming higher payouts do not make for a significant competitve advantage.
What could a program offer that would set it apart from the rest
within reason
slavdogg
06-10-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by JR@Jun 10 2003, 05:01 AM
"my bitch better have my money
not "some", not "half"... but ALL my cash
cause if she dont...
i'm gonna put my foot right dead in that ass"
- Unknown Pimp.
JR, here is a full version
bitch better have my money. Through rain, sleet, or snow, my hoe better have my money. Not half, not some, but all my cash. Because if she don't, I'll put my foot dead in her ass.
its from "I'm gonna git you sucka" movie
:)
Originally posted by un1t@Jun 10 2003, 03:41 AM
From feedback here and elsewhere im assuming higher payouts do not make for a significant competitve advantage.
What could a program offer that would set it apart from the rest
within reason
it sounds like you are planning on losing some serious $ soon. you should take it slow before you set most of your money on fire just to see what happens. there is a lot to learn, a lot to know and a lot of money to be lost and mistakes to be made.
you are asking a pretty silly question: "what can i do to be innovative, unique, better, more appealing" etc. people here do not make the money they do because they sell roadmaps to success. they make the money they do because for the most part, they talk very little about what they are doing, how it works, why it works and what the future plans are.
there is no shortcut. you are talking about a very mature and saturated market and very experienced people controlling the bulk of traffic. this is a business built first on personal relationships first, good ideas second.
i doubt anyone here can sum up the last 7-8 years, the changes, the evolution, the state of affairs today and the general direction things are heading in a couple meaningful paragraphs.
business is business.
risk, lose, learn, grow (repeat if necessary - and know beforehand that it usually is)
Originally posted by slavdogg+Jun 10 2003, 03:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slavdogg @ Jun 10 2003, 03:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JR@Jun 10 2003, 05:01 AM
"my bitch better have my money
not "some", not "half"... but ALL my cash
cause if she dont...
i'm gonna put my foot right dead in that ass"
- Unknown Pimp.
JR, here is a full version
bitch better have my money. Through rain, sleet, or snow, my hoe better have my money. Not half, not some, but all my cash. Because if she don't, I'll put my foot dead in her ass.
its from "I'm gonna git you sucka" movie
:)[/b][/quote]
shit, i knew i was forgetting something. I love that movie. i used to know the whole thing word for word.
its a classic.
im not planning on setting any $ on fire in the near future.
people assume a maximum payout of $50 means there is a loss involved.
if you do the math of my particular program, depending on referal numbers, you should come up with some sort of idea.
i assumed asking webmasters (they are the client) what they want would be a smart way of providing something of value
as an observer of 4 years or so I wouldnt regard myself to be a complete newb, although i understand the assumption
so please, im not after lectures as to the nature of the industry and its saturation level, im after specifics.....why do you chose one program as opposed to another
payout?
tools?
relationships?
anything?
cheers
Originally posted by un1t@Jun 10 2003, 04:16 AM
i assumed asking webmasters (they are the client) what they want would be a smart way of providing something of value
you are asking the same people you plan on competing with.
:rolleyes:
un1t, don't be lazy, go read the other threads ... there are 2 with similar topic ...
if you do the math of my particular program, depending on referal numbers, you should come up with some sort of idea.
Where were your sites or program info? I think i remember you posted it somewhere but i'm lazy ;-)
I'd love to do the math, its simple to see if a sponsor can afford to pay you what they are saying ...
JR......
my comments are all aimed at webmasters
"i assumed asking webmasters (they are the client) what they want would be a smart way of providing something of value"
"why do you chose one program as opposed to another"
if my comments were aimed at competitors they would be rather different to the above.
anything contructive to give me?
Timon
06-10-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by un1t@Jun 10 2003, 06:41 AM
What could a program offer that would set it apart from the rest
within reason
One word: HYPE
Dianna Vesta
06-10-2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by JR@Jun 10 2003, 06:49 AM
"what can i do to be innovative, unique, better, more appealing" etc. people here do not make the money they do because they sell roadmaps to success. they make the money they do because for the most part, they talk very little about what they are doing, how it works, why it works and what the future plans are.
there is no shortcut. you are talking about a very mature and saturated market and very experienced people controlling the bulk of traffic. this is a business built first on personal relationships first, good ideas second.
i doubt anyone here can sum up the last 7-8 years, the changes, the evolution, the state of affairs today and the general direction things are heading in a couple meaningful paragraphs.
business is business.
risk, lose, learn, grow (repeat if necessary - and know beforehand that it usually is)
Ta da!
Great shit JR!
Originally posted by un1t@Jun 10 2003, 05:04 AM
constructive
constructive tip #1:
Change your avatar so you dont look like an insurance salesman hoping to quit his day job.
Timon
06-10-2003, 10:39 AM
un1t, quite honestly, if you need to ask these questions in 2003 the best advice anyone can give you is: don't do it. The margins are tiny and the volumes can be huge, if you don't know what you're doing you can lose a LOT of money.
If you start buying sign-ups for premium cpa payouts today it may take you 6 month to even know if you'll be able to turn a profit 12 months after the day you started your proggy.
If you don't have a few million or at least a few hundred thousand to burn without getting nervous about it then your only option is a revshare type program.
Originally posted by JR+Jun 10 2003, 09:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Jun 10 2003, 09:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--un1t@Jun 10 2003, 05:04 AM
constructive
constructive tip #1:
Change your avatar so you dont look like an insurance salesman hoping to quit his day job.[/b][/quote]
that is the political representative for our state (queensland) in federal government ... it gives me chills every time i look at it
Timon
06-10-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by cj@Jun 10 2003, 09:58 AM
that is the political representative for our state (queensland) in federal government ... it gives me chills every time i look at it
Damn I wouldn't want to be in QLD in the weeks leading up to election time.... bhhhhrhrhrr
Does he put his face up on billboards?
yes, and on the news a lot
*shudder*
Timon
06-10-2003, 11:05 AM
It is unspeakable!
Originally posted by JR+Jun 11 2003, 12:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Jun 11 2003, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--un1t@Jun 10 2003, 05:04 AM
constructive
constructive tip #1:
Change your avatar so you dont look like an insurance salesman hoping to quit his day job.[/b][/quote]
hahahahahaha
At least he loves porners money JR... that's the Boss of Brisvegas!!
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Parlib/Me...ogs/beattie.htm (http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Parlib/Members/Current/Biogs/beattie.htm)
Constructive Tip #2:
what to watch out for....
http://www.pleasurelabs.com/pics/computer.jpg
Hooper
06-10-2003, 12:14 PM
un1t.. is that photo really you?
i think i saw you at a financial planning & asset protection seminar once :P
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