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WHS
05-14-2003, 04:11 PM
Hey everyone I am looking at a product:

Please post your thoughts here would like to see some feedback. would you pay for this product I am about to pay couple of hundred dollars not a bi deal but still do i need it?


AHL (AntiHotLinker) Information


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Winetalk.com
05-14-2003, 04:19 PM
you don't need it,
it can all be done with a simple htaccess

dantheman
05-14-2003, 04:32 PM
we provide this service to any client of ours that needs it. :rokk:

WHS
05-14-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by dantheman@May 14 2003, 04:40 PM
we provide this service to any client of ours that needs it. :rokk:
Do you charge for it?
Is it your own product or did you buy it off someone?

dantheman
05-14-2003, 04:44 PM
we did it inhouse, not saying it's better,worse than what your offering, there's in a market for movie protection for sure. I've seen many webmasters get hammered on bandwidth for sure.

Good luck :rokk:

WHS
05-14-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by dantheman@May 14 2003, 04:52 PM
we did it inhouse, not saying it's better,worse than what your offering, there's in a market for movie protection for sure. I've seen many webmasters get hammered on bandwidth for sure.

Good luck :rokk:
Thank you
the only thing we are not ofereing it but rather looking to buy it

Rolo
05-14-2003, 05:10 PM
Would not pay, since we have our own inhouse team of programmers ;-))... but for "a couple of hundred dollars" it sounds cheap if you compare it with the possible bandwidth bill you could receive because of some hotlinker.

WHS
05-14-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by dantheman@May 14 2003, 04:52 PM
we did it inhouse, not saying it's better,worse than what your offering, there's in a market for movie protection for sure. I've seen many webmasters get hammered on bandwidth for sure.

Good luck :rokk:
dantheman how do i contact you off line one of my friends is interested in your service if you can offer this type of service included

Winetalk.com
05-14-2003, 05:23 PM
there are tons of free scripts there:
http://opranosearch.com/msgboard/links.html

dantheman
05-15-2003, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by WHS+May 14 2003, 04:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (WHS @ May 14 2003, 04:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--dantheman@May 14 2003, 04:52 PM
we did it inhouse, not saying it's better,worse than what your offering, there's in a market for movie protection for sure. I've seen many webmasters get hammered on bandwidth for sure.

Good luck :rokk:
dantheman how do i contact you off line one of my friends is interested in your service if you can offer this type of service included[/b][/quote]
WHS, you can call me 1-800-445-3119 I'll be here till around 4pm central time, email me dannyh at simpleocom.net and I'll give you my cell also.

Bell
05-16-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by dantheman+May 15 2003, 05:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dantheman @ May 15 2003, 05:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -WHS@May 14 2003, 04:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--dantheman@May 14 2003, 04:52 PM
we did it inhouse, not saying it's better,worse than what your offering, there's in a market for movie protection for sure. I've seen many webmasters get hammered on bandwidth for sure.

Good luck :rokk:
dantheman how do i contact you off line one of my friends is interested in your service if you can offer this type of service included
WHS, you can call me 1-800-445-3119 I'll be here till around 4pm central time, email me dannyh at simpleocom.net and I'll give you my cell also.[/b][/quote]

WHS - - - correction on that...

danny's eMail is: dannyh at simplecom.net


~Bell





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Phoenix66
05-16-2003, 02:22 PM
What's a big deal to protect files from hotlinking???

htaccess:
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RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !.*www.yourdomain.com.* [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.[ext1|ext2|ext3|...] - [NC,F]
----------

where ext1, ext2, ext3 - extentions of files you don't want to be hotlinked (jpg, avi, mov, and so on)

This "howto" can be found in internet in 5 minutes.

sarettah
05-16-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix66@May 16 2003, 01:30 PM
What's a big deal to protect files from hotlinking???

htaccess:
---------
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !.*www.yourdomain.com.* [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.[ext1|ext2|ext3|...] - [NC,F]
----------

where ext1, ext2, ext3 - extentions of files you don't want to be hotlinked (jpg, avi, mov, and so on)

This "howto" can be found in internet in 5 minutes.
The prob phoenix is that the various media players do not pass a referrer...

so, yes the htacces would protect against someone accessing the files drectly from another page, but at the same time, that htaccess stops a legitimate member from accessing the file through windows media player, etc...

Phoenix66
05-17-2003, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by sarettah@May 16 2003, 10:38 AM
The prob phoenix is that the various media players do not pass a referrer...
I see. I should have red the initial post more carefully.

Well... I guess since obvious methods do not work, it's possible to track IPs anyway. I.e. you need to store IPs from which the page with a link to the movie was accessed over several last minutes (or hours?) and cut off all movie access attempts with IPs that did not come through the page first.

Well, I'm not a pro in this, but this doesn't seem too complicated also, though obviously not that easy as htaccess. Am I wrong?