Swift military victory having an effect.

[Almighty Colin]

Swift military victory having an effect?

Iran and North Korea
"Learning the appropriate lesson" ('http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascitystar/5621120.htm')?

Article titled "North Korea, Iran weigh changes in policies toward United States"




Last edited by Colin at Apr 13 2003, 07:52 AM

[Almighty Colin]

Strange times we are suddenly in. Ariel Sharon has said he is willing to remove Jewish settlements in order to achieve peace with the Palestinians.

"I have decided to make every effort to reach a (peace) settlement. I feel that the rational necessity to reach a settlement is overcoming my feelings." - Sharon.

[Rolo]

From Chris Rock:

"You know the world is going crazy when the best Rapper is white, the best Golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the US of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named Bush, 'Dick', and 'Colon' "

[-= JR =-]

i think a clear message was sent to the concerned governments.

"21 days"

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by -= JR =-@Apr 13 2003, 11:53 AM
i think a clear message was sent to the concerned governments.

"21 days"
I disagreed with you before on the likelihood of NK and Iran to abstract that lesson. I am coming along quickly though.

[-= JR =-]

maybe it would be different if the Middle East rose up and went nuts... then Iran and others would feel empowered. i think the opposite is happening. there is not enough opposition to action in Iraq, to strengthen them and their own faltering governments. If the US works quickly to establish an Iraqi government and return power to Iraqis - it will be just like Afghanistan where all the opposition COMPLETELY fades away... and all you are left with is rebuilt schools, international aid, returned human rights and a better life.

Think about this, Afghanistan was a fucked deal because it was already a shitty place to be. There was no industry there except growing poppys in fields of rocks. Iraq has almost 15% of the worlds oil reserves. That means the have industrial strength cash machines and infrastructure in place already to pump the economy full of cash. its mostly just a question of where and how to spend it.

Thats gonna suck even more for concerned governments in the region. I imagine thats the plan. There is going to be even more pressure put on them other than the obvious threat of being bombed into oblivian if they want to be shitty. they are gonna have a truly amazing success story right in the middle of them. - a story of freedom and wealth.

How will the average Syrian, Iranian, Saudia Arabian or other feel about that? How is a muslim cleric going to channel anger towards the US when it finally becomes undeniable that the problem is at home?

21 days.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by -= JR =-@Apr 13 2003, 12:19 PM
How will the average Syrian, Iranian, Saudia Arabian or other feel about that?

Sooner or later they're going rise up and overthrow their governments. The democratization of Iraq may accelerate that. Will be interesting to see how that transforms the Middle East. Could be good. Could be bad.

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Colin,
\so far, so good,
and I hope historians will always mention-
it was America
(in it's own interests of course)
who led the humanity to the new advances

[homegrownmof]

Originally posted by Colin+Apr 13 2003, 12:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 13 2003, 12:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin---= JR =-@Apr 13 2003, 12:19 PM
How will the average Syrian, Iranian, Saudia Arabian or other feel about that?

Sooner or later they're going rise up and overthrow their governments. The democratization of Iraq may accelerate that. Will be interesting to see how that transforms the Middle East. Could be good. Could be bad.[/b][/quote]


I think the cleric leaders in Iran are shitting bricks at this point.

Given a large % of Iranian population is youthful, I bet they're thinking it's time to compromise a bit and reform.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a massive student rebellion yet.