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Almighty Colin
04-07-2003, 11:42 AM
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...5E25777,00.html (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,6252296%255E25777,00.html)

ARABS reacted with dismay and disbelief to television images of US tanks in the heart of Baghdad, with some dismissing the news as American propaganda and others signing up for jihad.

While few Arabs believed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's regime could indefinitely hold out against the allied onslaught on Baghdad, many had expected the capital to put up a more ferocious fight than the southern city of Basra, which had taken British troops two weeks to dominate.

That is why news of US troops in central Baghdad left many shocked and wondering whether Saddam had been bluffing when he promised to slaughter the American troops at the gates of Baghdad.

Over a breakfast of croissant and coffee at a men's only cafe, Saudi accounting instructor Haitham al-Bawardi said he was having a hard time believing the TV reports.

"How can we know this is for real and not just coalition propaganda?" al-Bawardi, 30, said.

"But if this is true, it's quite frustrating," he added. "We had hoped Saddam would inflict as many casualties on the invaders as possible to teach them a lesson and make them think twice before striking another Arab country."

In Cairo, Egypt, the news made some more determined to join other Arabs who have gone into Iraq for jihad, or holy war, alongside Iraqis. The Lawyers' Syndicate began filling up with volunteers shortly after the news was broadcast.

"As Arabs, we cannot see this and not move," said a man in his early 30s who was too worried about government retribution to give his name. "We are selling ourselves for a higher cost, for God, not for Saddam."

Another volunteer, Abdelfattah, 41, a worker in a regional city council, refused to believe the Americans were in Baghdad, saying the reports were "all lies".

"It is a psychological war," said Abdelfattah. "If it is true then it is only a military strategy, to lure the American forces into a trap."

Despite the light resistance to today's incursion into the city, Abdelfattah insisted "Saddam himself will fight until the very end. ... He will remain standing until he dies while fighting for Iraq."

Amjad Mohammed, a 23-year-old Syrian hairdresser, said he feels "very sad".

"The Americans can never stay in Baghdad," said Mohammed. "Baghdad is noble Arab land."

Ali Oqla Orsan, head of the Arab Writers' Union, described the US incursion as a "propaganda parade," and said he hoped the allied troops would face "total defeat".

"They are practising terrorism against a sovereign country," said Orsan, a Syrian. "If the allied forces occupy Iraq, it would signal the beginning of a liberation war against the colonialists."

In Muscat, Oman, scores of men watched the news from Baghdad with angry and resentful faces. One shouted, "Where is your army Saddam?" Another, not believing the television pictures, grumbled: "These Americans are relying on false propaganda!"

Abdel Moneim al-Hosseni, an Omani university professor, expressed hope that the Republican Guard and the Iraqi army would still show some force but said war-watchers had to be realistic.

"We should not forget that Iraq, after 12 years of sanctions and siege that weakened it, cannot have very huge defence capabilities," he said.

In Lebanon, most citizens stayed close to their TV sets or radios to follow the news. Many refused to believe the American reports, opting to believe Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf's version of events.

"Sahhaf said they were not yet in Baghdad, didn't you hear him?" said Hisham Moniyyeh, 27, who runs a currency exchange shop in the southern port city of Sidon. "The Americans have been lying a lot since the beginning of this campaign so I don't believe them."

Merhej Shamma, a 39-year-old Lebanese architect, said he was shocked at how easy it has been for the Americans to enter Baghdad.

"I thought some of the fiercest fighting was supposed to take place in Baghdad. Where are the Republican Guards?" he asked.

Winetalk.com
04-07-2003, 11:48 AM
let's wait for the time when truth finally sets in...it's gonna be lots of arabs scartching their balls in the world..

-= JR =-
04-07-2003, 12:30 PM
The best propaganda since the Government of Miloslovich claimed NATO paid 4000 actors to walk around Kosovo as if it were actually local residents fleeing the Serb army.

people believe what they want to believe
people see what they want to see
the "truth" and "facts" are more subjective than most in the world understand
... all you need to do is tell people what they want to believe and tell it often.

wig
04-07-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by -= JR =-@Apr 7 2003, 11:38 AM
... all you need to do is tell people what they want to believe and tell it often.
Ah, the art of politics. :D

Mike AI
04-07-2003, 06:15 PM
I have to give the Iraqi Minister of Information props. With a straight face, he can really spin the truth. He is very loyal, and even with American tanks sitting on the other side of the river continues to do an excellent job!

I think he should be hired by a few of the large programs, he would fit in perfectly!!


He will probably be unemployed soon, and I doubt that Iraq has decent unemployment benefits.

Winetalk.com
04-07-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 7 2003, 05:23 PM
I have to give the Iraqi Minister of Information props. With a straight face, he can really spin the truth. He is very loyal, and even with American tanks sitting on the other side of the river continues to do an excellent job!

I think he should be hired by a few of the large programs, he would fit in perfectly!!


He will probably be unemployed soon, and I doubt that Iraq has decent unemployment benefits.
MikeAI, let's hire him as Oprano Information Minister!

Mike AI
04-07-2003, 06:23 PM
MikeAI, let's hire him as Oprano Information Minister!

Can we pay him in Canadian money??

Winetalk.com
04-07-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 7 2003, 05:31 PM
MikeAI, let's hire him as Oprano Information Minister!

Can we pay him in Canadian money??
nope...I say we pay hjim in Iraqi dinnars
;-)))

Mike AI
04-07-2003, 06:35 PM
Only for the first 6 months, by then it will be worth more then Canadian dollars!!

Mike AI
04-07-2003, 06:40 PM
http://askbuff.com/pics/al-sahafshow2.jpg

slavdogg
04-07-2003, 09:05 PM
Arab media slammed over war coverage
Editor of Saudi daily says reporters lying to try to bolster morale

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=31915 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31915)

Ponda
04-08-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 7 2003, 02:23 PM
I have to give the Iraqi Minister of Information props. With a straight face, he can really spin the truth. He is very loyal, and even with American tanks sitting on the other side of the river continues to do an excellent job!

I think he should be hired by a few of the large programs, he would fit in perfectly!!


He will probably be unemployed soon, and I doubt that Iraq has decent unemployment benefits.


Even his interpreter couldn't keep a strait face as he repeated what was being said. Towards the end of yesterdays speach he started to laugh.

Almighty Colin
04-08-2003, 07:53 PM
Are there Iraqi government trading cards? I'd like a few Al Sahafs. My favorite Iraqi. With a little luck, he'll survive Baghdad bombings and get a cameo in "Wag the Dog II".

Almighty Colin
04-11-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Colin@Apr 8 2003, 07:01 PM
Are there Iraqi government trading cards? I'd like a few Al Sahafs. My favorite Iraqi. With a little luck, he'll survive Baghdad bombings and get a cameo in "Wag the Dog II".
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../170/3rocx.html (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030411/170/3rocx.html)

Winetalk.com
04-11-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Colin+Apr 11 2003, 11:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 11 2003, 11:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Apr 8 2003, 07:01 PM
Are there Iraqi government trading cards? I'd like a few Al Sahafs. My favorite Iraqi. With a little luck, he'll survive Baghdad bombings and get a cameo in "Wag the Dog II".
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../170/3rocx.html (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030411/170/3rocx.html)[/b][/quote]
I knew it!!!

American imperialist pigs corrupt poor iraqi people and turn them into...gamblers!!!

Mike AI
04-11-2003, 12:52 PM
It would be cool to get a collection of those Iraqi Tading cards though!!

Almighty Colin
04-11-2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 11 2003, 12:00 PM
It would be cool to get a collection of those Iraqi Tading cards though!!

Coming soon to Ebay, I'm sure.



Last edited by Colin at Apr 11 2003, 12:02 PM

Carrie
04-11-2003, 02:18 PM
The best part about the cards was at the Centcom briefing this morning when they announced them and showed them for the first time... a reporter actually got up and asked if Sahaf was in the deck as the Joker, because every deck needs a joker! :)