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RawAlex
02-18-2003, 07:34 PM
NOTE: please understand that this is all bullshit - but after Mike posted up the stupid Clinton laundry list, I couldn't resist doing a little follow up on the previous president... it's morbid and funny, and while the people involved are dead or injured as noted, it's all crap. Rush would never talk about this list!


George H.W. Bush
Bodies
Jack Delaney and Ted White
These young men were killed when pilot George H. W. Bush abandoned his plane when it was hit by enemy fire. Much has been made of this story - Bush propaganda would have us believe that he was a hero. An eyewitness to the event tells us otherwise: Chester Mierzejewski, who was the turret gunner in another plane, had an unobstructed view. He states that he saw a "puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane and quickly dissipate. He states that the plane was never on fire and that Bush never attempted a water landing, which was standard procedure, and which would have given Mr. Delaney and Mr. White a chance.

Gary Caradori
He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million. The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. "Pronto", a newspaper in Barcelona, Spain, reported that the scandal "appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington DC who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself". Gary Caradori claimed that he had evidence that supported these allegations. On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged.

Orlando Letelier
He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED.

Ronni Moffit
She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy
An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.

Hale Boggs
He sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed.

George de Mohrenschildt
A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush).

Mrs. E. Howard Hunt
In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. Dorothy Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash.

Lou Russell
Lou Russell worked as a private detective for an agency that was helping George H.W. Bush, then chairman of the RNC, prepare for a press conference. It is a rumor that Lou Russell was the fabled "sixth burglar" of Watergate, the one who got away. On May 16, 1973, "Deep Throat" warned Bob Woodward that "Everyone's life is in danger." and that "electronic surveillance is going on and we had better watch it.". On May 18, Lou Russell suffered a massive heart attack that put him in Adventist Hospital, where he recovered somewhat and stayed until June 20. Russell told his daughter that he believed he had been poisoned. On July 2, two weeks after his release from the hospital, he had another "heart attack" and died.

John Leon
He was a friend and associate of Lou Russell. He was collecting statements about Watergate, and was to be the focus of a press conference. Leon suffered a "heart attack" and died, on the day before the conference was to be held.

Paul Wilcher
His partially decomposed body was found in his home, still seated on the toilet. According to the Washington Times, "...he was investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran."

Amiram Nir
He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.

Senator John Tower
He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.

Mohammed Zia al-huk
Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?

Barry Seal
He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for - guess who? - the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.

William Colby
This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

Mario Ruiz Massieu
An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels.

Olof Palme
He was the prime minister of Sweden, assassinated in 1986. Oliver North, the golden boy of the Bush/Reagan machine, had met with Mr. Palme to discuss the possibility of obtaining false end-user certificates for the plethora of weapons that were being purchased, so that they would seem to have come from a country other than the U.S. Mr. Palme refused to participate, after the plan was presented to him. He was dead within weeks.

William Casey
William Casey was CIA Director during the Reagan/Bush Administration. He died 2 days before he was to testify about his and others' involvement in the Iran/Contra scandal.

Edmond J. Safra
Banker Edmond J. Safra died mysteriously when a fire swept his Monaco penthouse apartment. His banks had been used for laundering money by the Bush Iran/Contra traitors.

Charles M. McKee and Matthew Gannon
Charles M. McKee, ostensibly a military attache for the DIA in Beirut, Matthew Gannon, CIA Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, and three others were on board Pan Am Flight 103, which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. They were part of a counterterrorist team in Beirut investigating the possible rescue of 9 American hostages in Lebanon. The McKee team uncovered evidence that a rogue CIA unit called COREA, based in Wiesbaden, was doing business with a man called Monzer Al-Kassar, a Syrian arms dealer and drug trafficker. Al-Kassar was part of the covert network run by U.S. Lieut. Colonel Oliver North. Outraged that the COREA unit in Wiesbaden was doing business with a Syrian who had close terrorist connections and might endanger their chances of rescuing the hostages, the McKee team decided to fly back to Virginia unannounced and expose the COREA unit's secret deal with al-Kassar. They never got there. "For three years, I've had a feeling that if Chuck hadn't been on that plane, it wouldn't have been bombed," said Beulah McKee, 75, Charles McKee's mother, to Time Magazine. Four months after her son was killed for his efforts to expose the CIA, Mrs. McKee received a sympathy letter from George H. W. Bush. Mrs. McKee has never been satisfied with the government's version of events.

Don Aronow
He was a close friend of George H. W. Bush. According to the book "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography," there is compelling evidence to conclude that Aronow was a drug smuggler and suspected drug-money launderer. He was murdered by professional killers on February 3, 1987. In the days before his death, he made many personal calls to George H. W. Bush.

Tommy Teagle, a man interviewed by author Thomas Burdick, was afraid of being murdered by Bush because he had knowledge that Aronow and Jeb Bush had been partners in cocaine trafficking.

Frank Nugan and Michael Hand
They were partners in the Nugan Hand Bank, a front for CIA drug money, in Sydney, Australia. Michael Hand was a Green Beret and an Army Colonel assigned to the CIA. Hand was in frequent contact with George Bush after his election to Vice President, according to CIA operative Trent Parker. Frank Nugan was found in his car on a remote road outside Sydney, an apparent suicide. There were no fingerprints on the gun. Michael Hand disappeared shortly afterwards, and has not been seen since.

John Shaheen
John Shaheen was a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign, who helped set up arms negotiations with the Iranians. We can find no information on Mr. Shaheen's death.

Cyrus Hashemi
He was an Iranian banker who worked with John Shaheen, a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign. According to Hashemi's brother, Jamshid Hashemi, he arranged a meeting between William Casey and a radical Iranian mullah in July of 1980 that eventually derailed Carter's hostage negotiations and delayed the release of the 52 American hostages until January of 1981.

Hashemi died suddenly in July of 1986 of what was later diagnosed as leukemia. His brother and his lawyer, William Wachtel, remain convinced that Cyrus was murdered. Richard Babayan, an Iranian in prison for securities fraud, claims that Hashemi's death was ordered by high-ranking officials.

Senator Henry John Heinz III
He chaired the three-man presidential review board that probed the Iran-contra affair. He died in a plane crash in April 1991.

Amaro da Costa
Then Defense Minister of Portugal, he died in a plane crash in Lisbon in 1980. He was planning to disclose that he had discovered documents that showed Portugese officers were helping to traffic arms to Iran.

Sa Carneiro
Former Prime Minister of Brazil and a very popular leader, he died in the same plane crash that killed Amaro da Costa.

More over here... http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bush-sr/bodies.shtml

Mike AI
02-18-2003, 08:01 PM
HAHA point made...

For the record, I am NO fan of the Elder Bush at all.....

PornoDoggy
02-18-2003, 08:09 PM
There's one out there someplace that goes back further than this, and includes allegations about the deaths of people with "knowledge" about GHWB's father and his "financial dealings" with the Nazis in WWII.

Mike AI
02-18-2003, 08:28 PM
You mean grandpa Bush was in with Joe Kennedy?

KC
02-19-2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by RawAlex@Feb 18 2003, 07:42 PM
More over here... http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bush-sr/bodies.shtml
You'd think that someone who actually believed these people were capable of doing all the things on that list would know they wouldn't spare a guy talking shit about their shady operation. Especially one that wouldn't be missed! ;)

It takes some nuts to run a site promoting a list like this.. (and the others).. of course, unless you think it's bullshit.



Last edited by KC at Feb 19 2003, 04:41 AM

Torone
02-19-2003, 06:11 AM
In my humble opinion, both are urban political legends. Reagan did away with the machinery for 'eliminating' people; and it has been replaced by an even more fearsome thing...can we say IRS?

RawAlex
02-19-2003, 07:33 AM
KC, the whole thread starts with:

NOTE: please understand that this is all bullshit


Sadly, there enough conspiracy minded people out there to bite on this stuff. Mike posted the Clinton thread with some level of sincerity, not that I think he bought it all, but bought just enough of it to thik it possible...

As the snopes.com researcher pointed out, you take JUST ENOUGH fact and wrap anything around it, and it sounds reasonable. That is how politics works in the end, no? :-)

Alex

OldJeff
02-19-2003, 07:46 AM
That list looks a little small.

Let's not forget that George the first was in charge of the CIA for 11 years.

I am pretty sure his real list makes that one look pretty tiny. :awinky:

kath
02-19-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by OldJeff@Feb 19 2003, 04:54 AM
That list looks a little small.

Let's not forget that George the first was in charge of the CIA for 11 years.

I am pretty sure his real list makes that one look pretty tiny. :awinky:
Good point - lol

This is a small list of an underachiever - let's give Bush a little credit. :nyanya: