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01-25-2003, 11:14 PM
by pure accident,
Sue was elected by the founder of Anthrax to be the manager of his new band 7x70.
Today we signed agreement with Daniel Spitz to represent him and his new band consisting of Iron Maiden drummer Nicko McBrain, Megadeth bass player David Ellefson, and Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist

If you have ANY suggestions about music business which is new for us,
don't be shy.

Meni, MikeW says you can be valuable in running the fan board for the group.

Wish us best of luck,
we are as excited as on the day I opened the first website
;-)))

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01-25-2003, 11:40 PM
MikeW,
BIG THANKS for taking the charge of the website design,
you rock!

http://www.wyldesites.com/graphics/

gigi
01-25-2003, 11:44 PM
Congrats guys!!

Is it really true? (I'm 'Serge' challenged...I can't always tell if he's joking or not....lol)

If so, that is fabulous news! They sure picked the right girl for the job!! Woohoo!!!

:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:
:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:
:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

Peaches
01-25-2003, 11:49 PM
Gigi - I don't think he'd know who all those names were unless he saw them on a contract :awinky:

Congratulations Susanne and Serge! (how many times this month am I going to have to say this?!!! :nyanya: )

:cdance: :cdance: :cdance: :cdance: :cdance: :cdance:

Julene
01-25-2003, 11:52 PM
If this is true, congrats...



You need to hook them up with another rock band that is touring the local rock scene..

I saw Seether last Saturday at the local bar..standing room and lots of air coverage with two radio stations..

http://www.seether.com

Here's another one coming soon..

http://www.chevelleinc.com

I think Fletch on the gfy board is into the music scene and could probably give some tips

gigi
01-25-2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by Peaches@Jan 25 2003, 11:57 PM
Gigi - I don't think he'd know who all those names were unless he saw them on a contract :awinky:

ROTFL!!

Good point peaches.... :yowsa:

Julene
01-25-2003, 11:58 PM
I think I heard a few months ago that Megadeth was looking for a new bass player..

That's an awesome line up for a new band..

Nickatilynx
01-26-2003, 12:05 AM
Congrats to you both.

Use dancing fruit in the Video! :)

:bjump: :bdance: :cdance: :bwave: :bjump:

voodooman
01-26-2003, 12:09 AM
Congrats to the both of you.

That should be one hell of a band.
Im looking forward to it maybe as
much as you are.
The 80's could be back as far as music
goes.
:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

Rox
01-26-2003, 01:34 AM
That's fuckin' awesome! Congrats! What a lineup!!!

"Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist"

Well, perhaps now he can bury that character "Vanilla Ice" once and for all and his given name will no longer need to be parenthetical. :rokk:

sextoyking
01-26-2003, 02:23 AM
Congrats Sue and Serge.

Hope the new band rocks. You sure have some talent there.

Used to love the Maiden song, run to the hills!!


:rokk:

originalheather
01-26-2003, 02:49 AM
:cdance: :bjump: :bwave: :bdance:

Sue! Congratulations, girlie! Sounds like a fabulous deal, of course I'm too old to know who these folks are, but you're gonna do great!

Serge, you dog! You said it was "something good to keep her busy" on the phone today, you didn't say it was HUGE!

Best of luck and again, a thousand congratulations, you're the best!

Nick's right...dancing fruit is all the rage..at least around here :D

:rokk: :cdance: :bjump: :bwave: :bdance: :cdance: :bjump: :bwave:

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01-26-2003, 08:30 AM
Peaches,
I told 'em right of the bat,
my musical education ended up with Deep Purple and never progressed any further,
so they wouldn't hold it against me my lack of knowledge
;-))

but...LL, due to her son who forced her to listen to them all when he was growing up, knows 'em all.

Her degree in music conducting also helps a lot.

anyway...FINALLY, I have a boss to work for and as long as I am sexually harassed by my boss,
I should do fine
;-)))

Peaches
01-26-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 26 2003, 09:38 AM
but...LL, due to her son who forced her to listen to them all when he was growing up, knows 'em all.

I would probably know nothing about music past the 80's were it not for giving birth - kids have the amazing ability to keep you young while making you prematurely gray all at the same time! :headwall:

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01-26-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Peaches+Jan 26 2003, 09:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Jan 26 2003, 09:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Jan 26 2003, 09:38 AM
but...LL, due to her son who forced her to listen to them all when he was growing up, knows 'em all.

I would probably know nothing about music past the 80's were it not for giving birth - kids have the amazing ability to keep you young while making you prematurely gray all at the same time! :headwall:[/b][/quote]
Peaches, I wouldn't say it better myself!
;-))

dantheman
01-26-2003, 09:45 AM
word to your mother :)

congrats serge and LL I know ya'll do well, when they come to my neck of the woods I want some groupie left overs :rokk:

LadyLaw
01-26-2003, 09:51 AM
Hello everyone!

Yes, it's true, Heavy Metal Band Management.....another service Oprano now provides! LOL This will be alot of work, but what a wonderful opportunity....very exciting.

I always wondered how all those years of being force-fed my son's music would pay off!

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01-26-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by dantheman@Jan 26 2003, 09:53 AM
word to your mother :)

congrats serge and LL I know ya'll do well, when they come to my neck of the woods I want some groupie left overs :rokk:
Dan,
I am in charge of the "Groupies testing",
it's in the contract
;-)))

the sad thing is..
I know as much about music business as I knew about porn business back in 1996....

..and that I'll have to work under LL..
;-)))

cj
01-26-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by dantheman@Jan 26 2003, 09:53 AM
word to your mother :)
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
classic

ice ice baby

i loved that song, still know most of it by heart!!



congratulations LL, this is a great project & has a very exciting future!!! ;-)
If ya ever need anything .......


:D

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01-26-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by cj@Jan 26 2003, 10:10 AM

If ya ever need anything .......


:D
I can think of few things...

1) your expertise in driving traffic to website
2) Dean's and MarcDe'expertise in non-adult and GAMING world
(Dan Spitz writes music for gaming industry, Grand Theft Auto has Anthrax song incorporated into the game)
3) Todd's expertise on merchandising/fullfilment
4) HiRise expertise on hosting/programming
5) KB/D$ bookings expertise
and anything and everything you can think of and offer,

as I said before,
we are NEWBS in music world, and newbies tend to listen to the pro's with the mouth wide open



Last edited by Serge_Oprano at Jan 26 2003, 10:27 AM

dantheman
01-26-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jan 26 2003, 10:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jan 26 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Jan 26 2003, 10:10 AM

If ya ever need anything .......


:D
I can think of few things...

1) your expertise in driving traffic to website
2) Dean's and MarcDe'expertise in non-adult and GAMING world
(Dan Spitz writes music for gaming industry, Grand Theft Auto has Anthrax song incorporated into the game)
3) Todd's expertise on merchandising/fullfilment
4) HiRise expertise on hosting/programming
5) KB/D$ bookings expertise
and anything and everything you can think of and offer,

as I said before,
we are NEWBS in music world, and newbies tend to listen to the pro's with the mouth wide open[/b][/quote]
u forgot 1
6)dantheman handleing all groupie wantabes :rokk:

MikeW
01-26-2003, 10:24 AM
This is going to be an awesome project ;-))) I grew up listening to all those guys during the peak of 80's metal .. so getting a chance to do some design work for them on their new collaborative project is an honor. The best part is being able to do some KILLER design work that has nothing to do with porn OR mainstream corporate sites. This is going to be fun fun fun!!!!

:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

Oh and my deepest, most sincere thanks to Serge and Susanne for this opportunity ;-))) You guys are the best!





Last edited by MikeW at Jan 26 2003, 10:36 AM

cj
01-26-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jan 26 2003, 10:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jan 26 2003, 10:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Jan 26 2003, 10:10 AM

If ya ever need anything .......


:D
I can think of few things...

[/b][/quote]
1) your expertise in driving traffic to website

consider it DONE!
would be happy to set up the affiliate program for any product you might want webmasters to push ... you've seen the demo ;-)

2) Dean's and MarcDe'expertise in non-adult and GAMING world
(Dan Spitz writes music for gaming industry, Grand Theft Auto has Anthrax song incorporated into the game)

look out world, this is a pretty serious sentence ..... :okthumb:

This is going to be an awesome project ;-))) I grew up listening to all those guys during the peak of 80's metal .. so getting a chance to do some design work for them on their new collaborative project is an honor. The best part is being able to do some KILLER design work that has nothing to do with porn OR mainstream corporate sites. This is going to be fun fun fun!!!!


MikeW, I've just started working with an australian model on her web presence. she's a smart girl who realizes she needs a recurring model paysite to make some cash before she loses her 'spark'.
The only reason i'm doing it is because I want something pretty to play with ;-))))
pun intended!!

you get to be really creative on something that will be appreciated!!!!

Vick
01-26-2003, 10:43 AM
Congrats to all involved!!
Am certain this will be very exciting, interesting, learning process
Always good to expand horizons

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 10:43 AM
would be happy to set up the affiliate program for any product you might want webmasters to push ...
*********************************

from what I heard,
merchandising is quite big in that industry
;-)

I estimate 1-2 months ETA of affiliate proggy, if all goes up to plan

Bestat
01-26-2003, 10:49 AM
Congrats LL and Serge, that rocks! :rokk:

I LOVE the design so far MikeW! That logo is kick ass!

Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer in way of help :( Unless you need a toon down the line. :P

Best of luck!

B)

cj
01-26-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 26 2003, 10:51 AM
would be happy to set up the affiliate program for any product you might want webmasters to push ...
*********************************

from what I heard,
merchandising is quite big in that industry
;-)

I estimate 1-2 months ETA of affiliate proggy, if all goes up to plan
excellent!!
by then there will be 1000's of pre-existing webmasters ready to promote a 'celebrity' product that's actually legal ;-)))


idea time:
what about an adult site, based around the backstage antics of the band ... take a bit of video of girls in the audience who flash their tits etc ... photos and audio interviews with the band after concerts etc
lots of tits & partying ;-)))

Forest
01-26-2003, 11:15 AM
Serge

I knew of those guys when i was a kid

wow

I have long hair and can teach the kids at the concerts how to Headbang

:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

dont know if my neck can handel 2 shows a night anymore :lol:

Billy
01-26-2003, 11:24 AM
Excuse me.. would everybody please take two steps back from Serge and LL and let me see your VIP pass, I will then let you talk to them for 2 minutes. After that they are off to eat pigon's : )

Forest
01-26-2003, 11:31 AM
BUT Serge and LL

please explain ONE thing to me...As an OLD TIME metalhead
___________________________________________

and Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist

WHY????????? :unsure: :( :angry: :blink:

Sherie
01-26-2003, 11:35 AM
That's amazing!! I used to :rokk: out heavly to Anthrax, still listen to them along with Megadeth and Iron Maiden when I need a good :rokk: fix!

As for Vanillia Ice, was not into his Ice Ice Baby stuff...

Congrats and :rokk: on!



Last edited by Sherie at Jan 26 2003, 08:44 AM

Vick
01-26-2003, 11:41 AM
Giving it a little thought ... not being a music industry insider but an avid fan with a little sense and having looked at the music landscape for many year
With the current demand of bands from the 80's
What you can reasonably expect from this undertaking

If 7x70 doesn't already have a recording contract in place it shouldn't be challenging to get them a record deal -
from my understanding the band usually makes 1.00 to 1.50 per unit sold (Check for yourself I could be wrong)

On name value alone, booking 7x70 on a North American club tour (local clubs - playing to 500 to 2,000 fand per night) should not be a problem - Obviously this gets them in front of their fans and gives more sales ops
Usual deal is flat fee and % of door or % of door

This is very similar to what many hair bands from the 80's are doing now (Vince Neil, LA Guns, Cinderella, Quiet Riot so on and so forth)

Merchandise from the bands is always available at these shows via a booth or table set up

The biggest challenge may be getting airplay - radio and or MTV or similar video outlets - that type exposure is what will help move 7x70 to the next level

Behind that with promotion (internet, radio, TV and live promos - like in store records signings and touring) reasonable sales expectations can be in the 100,000 to 400,000 record units sold - more if the band can get heavy airplay
Add T-shirt's, posters, other apparel and various sundries to items available for sale to fans

Internet marketing campaign combined with traditional marketing - get in front of as many eyeballs in all target markets as possible by all means available

Obviously please don't take this as gospel and as always due diligence

MikeW, KB/D$ and Sykk and a few others will be able to add and amend this

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Forest@Jan 26 2003, 11:39 AM
BUT Serge and LL

please explain ONE thing to me...As an OLD TIME metalhead
___________________________________________

and Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist

WHY????????? :unsure: :( :angry: :blink:
Forest,
as Peaches noticed, I don't know any of them,
Dan Spitz put the group together,
and who am I to tell him ANYTHING related to music?

we signed an agreement,
I don't help him to write music and he doesn't help me to promote the band
;-)))

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 11:50 AM
Vick,
you grasp the things fast,
those are SOME of my concerns and cheallenges I see,
it won't be a "walk in the woods",
I don't wear a rosy glasses and realize the realities well.

but....if we don't take this opportunity,
we'll be kickin' ourselves for the rest of our lives asking
"What if..."

the human nature is:
We always regret more about things we didn't do than about mistakes we have done, we are very forgiving creatures..when it comes to ourselves.

I'd rather kick myself for doing it and failing than for passing this opportunity.

Forest
01-26-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 26 2003, 08:58 AM

I'd rather kick myself for doing it and failing than for passing this opportunity.
For all the people who Bashed me for ALL of my previous events
Nick
junior
and all the others

FUCK YOU!!!!

Serge I couldnt have said it better myself
:agrin:

Vick
01-26-2003, 12:04 PM
Serge - like I said I think it's great, LL and you make a good team -
Also the music industry performs well in times of a stale economy - affordable escapism

What did you know about Signs?
What did you know about internet porn? :D

What you did know was people, human nature, what motivates and how to sell - combine that with enthusiasm and intellegance and you go far :yowsa:

Sometimes outsiders coming into a new industry can do well as they are not typecast/known - am sure you remember the lessons you learned coming into the internet industry

Actually contrary to what you're hearing here these performers are not really household names, they were bigger than fringe players in the music scene in the 80's but weren't the top draws -

and you may have to promote them by their names which have some recognition value as opposed to promoting them just as 7 X 70
Obviously something along the lines of 7 X 70 featuring .........



Last edited by Vick at Jan 26 2003, 12:30 PM

Peaches
01-26-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Billy@Jan 26 2003, 12:32 PM
Excuse me.. would everybody please take two steps back from Serge and LL and let me see your VIP pass, I will then let you talk to them for 2 minutes. After that they are off to eat pigon's : )
WHAT?! (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pigon)

Forest
01-26-2003, 12:09 PM
getting the opportunity go work with guys like that is exciting

BUT
I see the REAL excitment is getting into another billion dollar a year industry that is faceing internet isssues that we have already delt with
Piracy, p2p, billing, ect ect.

I think this puts Serge and LL in a position of strenght as they will bring insite to the end of the industry where the music companies claim they are loosing millions of dollars a year on.

B) :yowsa:

Menace
01-26-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 25 2003, 11:22 PM
Today we signed agreement with Daniel Spitz to represent him and his new band consisting of Iron Maiden drummer Nicko McBrain, Megadeth bass player David Ellefson, and Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist

Big congratulations! :okthumb:

Sounds like a great project and you'll do great.

A bigger obstical than lack of experience is Rob Van Winkle's mouth.

If every once in a while you can stick him in the ribs and remind him he's not as cool, tough or smart as he thinks then he'll convey himself better in public and the project will have a better shot.

Consider 1 CD sold already.

Way to crossover, this is one of the better non-adult ventures I've heard in a while :)

Sword
01-26-2003, 12:21 PM
This is exciting news, congrats and I'm looking forward to seeing it all come together!

One thing though, when you talk to Vanilla Ice, please ask him how in the hell he managed to lose to Willis (Todd Bridges) in that Celebrity Boxing challenge!! :P

Good luck with the new project!

:okthumb:



Last edited by Sword at Jan 26 2003, 12:29 PM

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01-26-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Sword@Jan 26 2003, 12:29 PM
This is exciting news, congrats and I'm looking forward to seeing it all come together!

One thing though, when you talk to Vanilla Ice, please ask him how in the hell he managed to lose to Willis (Todd Bridges) in that Celebrity Boxing challenge!! :P

Good luck with the new project!

:okthumb:
Sword, I won't talk to any of the guys if I can help it.
That's LL's department, SHE is a people's person,
I feel much better in the background

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 12:30 PM
What did you know about Signs?
*****************************************

I had 1 day experience in selling them and 1/2 a day experience in production



What did you know about internet porn?
****************************************

Nothing, nada, zilch, ZERO



What you did know was people, human nature, what motivates and how to sell
*************************************

a lot, and still learning.
;-))

Meni
01-26-2003, 01:00 PM
you forgot
Meni has crabs

Forest
01-26-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Meni@Jan 26 2003, 10:08 AM
you forgot
Meni has crabs
I hear they are good with drawn butter
:cryin:

MikeW
01-26-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Meni@Jan 26 2003, 01:08 PM
you forgot
Meni has crabs
hmmm, wonder how that happened?

:moon: :matey:

Sherie
01-26-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Meni@Jan 26 2003, 10:08 AM
you forgot
Meni has crabs
Again :awinky: LOL

Ambergirl
01-26-2003, 02:18 PM
Congratulations and good luck with it Serge and LL! :)

And as a music buff (oh yeah, and being married to a hair metal band guy ;>), you really should ask them to rethink having Rob Van Winkle as lead...that's the ONLY problem I see with it.

Meni
01-26-2003, 02:22 PM
I agree with Amber
lose rob

Julene
01-26-2003, 02:24 PM
Time for Serge to start mingling at the rock clubs . :rokk:

Hey the opening band last Saturday was Social Burn and they are from Talahasee FL..

:awinky:

Meni
01-26-2003, 02:24 PM
oops
i had crabs
twice
but that was years ago

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Ambergirl@Jan 26 2003, 02:26 PM
you really should ask them to rethink having Rob Van Winkle as lead...that's the ONLY problem I see with it.
"In numbers I trust" and Rob just
has returned from his SOLD OUT show in Phily.

Heqdvd is not popular on Oprano but he packs the house
;-))

In my book of values,
the musician who can pack a concert hall and hated by everyone
is better than the one who is loved by everyone but can't fill the empty stadium

as long as he doesn't make public statements that he is more popular than Christ....I don't really care
;-))

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Julene@Jan 26 2003, 02:32 PM
Time for Serge to start mingling at the rock clubs . :rokk:

Hey the opening band last Saturday was Social Burn and they are from Talahasee FL..

:awinky:
I don't think so...they refuse to do that.

My childhood dream finally comes true..
"I don't wanna work, I wanna beat on the drum all day..."
;-)))

Opti
01-26-2003, 02:42 PM
Sounds like Rob Van Winkle will draw headlines... hopefully the others will bring the credibility.. now just imagine if Ice Ice Baby turns out to be more media savy and a better singer than everyone expects :yowsa:

Good luck with it you two :okthumb:

Winetalk.com
01-26-2003, 02:59 PM
Vick,
I ran your posts by Daniel and this si what I got:

As I put together my bio I forgot to tell you I have a Platinum album from Beavis and Butthead television show soundtrack too.

And a Platinum soundtrack album for the soundtrack from Arnold Swarzeneggers movie soundtrack "Last Action Hero" movie.

And a Platinum album for Adam Sandlers movie "Air Heads" soundtrack.

Any many more.

Just do what you do best. The music does the talking.

Haaa Haaa

Over and Out,

P.S.
...and a Platinum album that the band KISS asked me to play on too.




the man is a GIANT! man, I wouldn't wanna fuck this one,
and not sell him,
I wouldn't be able to live with shame..
;-(((

Vick
01-26-2003, 03:11 PM
Serge - I have to apologize as I was not aware of some of his other successes
Will make it easier to market them :inlove:
Due Diligence :D

MikeW
01-26-2003, 03:21 PM
Serge, the reaction you see about VanillaIce is because since he first came out with his really famous song 'Ice Ice Baby' the general concensus is that people and the media have labeled him a 'one hit wonder' type of guy and he is not taken very seriously as a true 'musician'. There's a certain stigma attached to his name that is hard to ignore. It will be hard, even now I think for some people in the music industry and the general audience to overlook his past and give him a 'second chance' so to speak.

Whereas Dan, Nicko and Dave Jr. are highly accomplished musicians that have risen to the top of their respective fields and are household names among rock fans and critics alike.

Hopefully they will balance each other out and we can use his past as a vehicle to create some controversy or buzz in the industry. I think that the more people you speak to about this you're going to find similar reactions when his name is mentioned ...

BUT with a band behind him as hard and as tight as the demo I heard last night, it would be near impossible for him to fail, the music really was a breath of fresh air compared to so much of the mass packaged CRAP that you see on MTV, etc..

Nickatilynx
01-26-2003, 06:14 PM
For all the people who Bashed me for ALL of my previous events
Nick
junior
and all the others



JR and I seem to be great motivators :)

and Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) as vocalist

WHY?????????

heqdvd thinks he is HOT!!!!!!!

(and he was never told that he unless he signed away the royalties he would be thrown off a balcony!)

:devil:

RRRED
01-26-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jan 26 2003, 02:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Jan 26 2003, 02:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Julene@Jan 26 2003, 02:32 PM
Time for Serge to start mingling at the rock clubs . :rokk:

Hey the opening band last Saturday was Social Burn and they are from Talahasee FL..

:awinky:
I don't think so...they refuse to do that.

My childhood dream finally comes true..
"I don't wanna work, I wanna beat on the drum all day..."
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Better let KC in on this. He has his own drums ;)

Congrats on the new project LL and Serge... As long as life is never dull...

Man I'm going to have old Anthrax tunes running though my head the rest of the day... I love them.... and good ole Vanilla Ice... How exciting

Meni
01-26-2003, 10:08 PM
Its not like Vanilla Ice hasn't already tried to turn a new leaf
he's been touring with his hardcore band for years
played a nice small gig in Manchester last year
I had my people in my living room

KC
01-26-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by RRRED@Jan 26 2003, 07:13 PM
Better let KC in on this. He has his own drums ;)
Yes, please let them know that if they need any help with the Bongo's or need assistance in locating a skillful bongo player, I'll happily provide guidance.

Congrats on the new deal Serge!

-KC

cj
01-27-2003, 04:51 AM
the vanilla ice angle is gonna be a tough one, that's probably going to be make or break
but they'll probalby kick him out before then LOL

i saw a feature on him on mtv ... one of those 1 hour 'where are they now' documentary's and he has been doing some really cool stuff since but hasn't been able to get past the ice ice baby days

i worked in a bar while i went to college, and the band there (the happy butts!) had a version of ice ice baby they did which was hilarious ... i will see how much i remember


alright stop, masturbate and listen
happy butts are back with our brand new invention
underwear. grabs a hold of me tightly
chokes my testes daily and nightly

will it ever stop yo, i don't know
if i take my pants off, i might blow
to the extreme you know i'm so full of bullshit
ripped off a queen song and now i'm a big hit

blah blah

if there was a problem, you i'll solve it
baby sit on my dick and revolve on it


blah blah
quick to the point to the point no faking,
forget the cheese and suck my bacon

rolling. home to my slut
she's a bitch with a needle
girlies on stand by waiting just to blow my ...

etc ;-)

serge, here's the real words so you can peruse his musical genius ;-)))

Ice Ice Baby (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/v/vanilla-ice/33190.htm)

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01-27-2003, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by KC+Jan 26 2003, 11:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (KC @ Jan 26 2003, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--RRRED@Jan 26 2003, 07:13 PM
Better let KC in on this. He has his own drums ;)
Yes, please let them know that if they need any help with the Bongo's or need assistance in locating a skillful bongo player, I'll happily provide guidance.

Congrats on the new deal Serge!

-KC[/b][/quote]
KC, this is ain't my deal, it's LL's deal,
I work under her,
and love every minute of it
;-)))

Forest
01-27-2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jan 26 2003, 03:22 PM

JR and I seem to be great motivators :)


for a bowel movement maybe
LOL
:nyanya:

JFK
01-27-2003, 12:35 PM
Congrats Serge & LL , All the best with this new and exciting Venture ! Will they make an appearence at the Player Haters Ball ? B)

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01-27-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by JFK@Jan 27 2003, 12:43 PM
Congrats Serge & LL , All the best with this new and exciting Venture ! Will they make an appearence at the Player Haters Ball ? B)
yes....unless D$ books them FIRST
;-)))

Nickatilynx
01-27-2003, 12:51 PM
KC, this is ain't my deal, it's LL's deal,
I work under her,
and love every minute of it
;-)))



Nice :)

Dianna Vesta
01-27-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by LadyLaw@Jan 26 2003, 09:59 AM
Hello everyone!

Yes, it's true, Heavy Metal Band Management.....another service Oprano now provides! LOL This will be alot of work, but what a wonderful opportunity....very exciting.

I always wondered how all those years of being force-fed my son's music would pay off!
Congrats S & S,

This sounds like something you'll be good at. Will you have to travel much for this or is it strickly behind the scenes?

SykkBoy
01-27-2003, 12:58 PM
Holy fuck, nice score!
Nicko is one of my favorite drumers of all time

Dan Spitz is fucking aces too...

Umm, serge, need any music advisors? LOl
Don't forget that Anthraz was also one of the "founding fathers" of thrash metal..fuck, I remember the Clash Of The Titans tour...the three biggest thrash metal acts at the time: Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer (with a little band called Alice In Chains opening). Anthrax also helped usher in rap-metal and even teamed with Public Enemy.

They also penned the greatest moshpit tune of all time "Caught In A Mosh"

Also, I saw Rob Van Winkle in his hardcore band a few months ago and he was actually pretty damn good....I fucking hated "Ice Ice Baby" and his white boy rap shit, but his hardcore stuff is actually pretty good.

FWIW, I do have experience as a concert promoter as well as a a hasbeen/neverwas musician so have seen both sides of the business, you'll have a blast (especially once you get to start messing with riders) :)

:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

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01-27-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Dianna Vesta@Jan 27 2003, 01:01 PM
Will you have to travel much for this or is it strickly behind the scenes?
for the time being we are cancelling our trip to Italy....

I honestly don't know the answer to your question,
this is step #7 and I can only calculate 6 moves in advance
;-)))

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01-27-2003, 01:00 PM
Umm, serge, need any music advisors? LOl
****************************************

SyKK,
what I DEFINALY would need is website Fan Board moderators,
with knowledge of music and human nature.

are you game?

SykkBoy
01-27-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 27 2003, 01:08 PM
Umm, serge, need any music advisors? LOl
****************************************

SyKK,
what I DEFINALY would need is website Fan Board moderators,
with knowledge of music and human nature.

are you game?
You bet!

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01-27-2003, 01:04 PM
Also, I saw Rob Van Winkle in his hardcore band a few months ago and he was actually pretty damn good....
*******************************************

he'll be putting vocals today-Wednesday in Fort Lauderdale,
I'll try taking pictures for the website...

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01-27-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by SykkBoy+Jan 27 2003, 01:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SykkBoy @ Jan 27 2003, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Jan 27 2003, 01:08 PM
Umm, serge, need any music advisors? LOl
****************************************

SyKK,
what I DEFINALY would need is website Fan Board moderators,
with knowledge of music and human nature.

are you game?
You bet![/b][/quote]
Sykk,
please send Sue your e-mail, so we could start talking $$ and cents
ladylaw at cotac.com

Dianna Vesta
01-27-2003, 01:07 PM
Music marketing seems really difficult on hand and on the other much simplier. I don't know what's involved in management according to LL's job but if it's what I think it is, there's going to be some travel and a lot of head banging.

Years years ago I worked with music promoters to get air time in south florida. It was after the big controversy over large companies paying for air space. It's not illegal, or do they say. So instead of paying them you throw them parties, send them on trips.. lol- all free, of course!

Damn I haven't heard their music in many moons. I'll have to wait till I get home on my fast connection and check it out.

Do you have a CD at your house?

kath
01-27-2003, 01:09 PM
Congrats LL on the new "gig" - sounds like fun! :)

Anthrax...wow...we saw them in '87 when I was 8 months pregnant with my oldest. They were opening for Ozzy in San Diego. The baby never kicked so HARD as when Anthrax was on. I joked that it was because he didn't like them - but hub swore it was because our son was going to be a born drummer.

The kid is an excellent drummer today (at age 13) and his favorite genre? Heavy & thrash metal. All the neighborhood kids think he's weird (hip-hop is all they like) but he loves it.

Congrats! Hope to see these guys @ the PHB - tell D$ to keep his mitts off em! lol

:rokk: :rokk: :rokk: :rokk:

T-Rav
01-27-2003, 01:09 PM
Serge and Sue,

I have several questions for you. I have a lot of connections in the music industry, and I was curious as to what your involvement will be exactly.

I spoke with some friends of mine in the business, and they were under the impression that with the people you are managing they will know more about it than anyone. Your job as a manager will be more in managing the professionals and making sure they do their job, than anything else.

There are several things that can make your life easier. They may or may not already have a booking agency. If they don't I can make some suggestions, and the guys in the band will also have their suggestions. They may or may not already have a PR Firm/Studio. This will also be important, they can handle the branding and publicity.

Have they already recorded an album? If not they will obviously need a recording studio. They probably already have one in mind, but I can make some suggestions here as well.

Do they already have a record deal with one of the major labels? I imagine they have already worked something out here too, but maybe not.

I also have friends who do poster/website/media/magazine design. This is usually something bands like to pick on their own and they often try different firms until they get one that fits. This is something I could help with right away. These guys have done design work for many bands out there and have a great portfolio.

Feel free to hit me up on icq if you want to discuss some of this further. New ventures like this are always exciting. I would love to be of assistance and I am confident I can call in some favors to help out. Although most of my exposure has been on the "Indy" (Independent Label) scene, I am sure the people I know can be of assistance.

Good Luck,

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01-27-2003, 01:22 PM
T-Rav,
thanks a bunch!

we'll be in touch towards the end of the week,
we NEVER say NO to the hands throwing life lines
;-)))

Shann
01-27-2003, 02:45 PM
What a score! I took recording arts management in school, all it is really is negotiating and babysitting, just like taking care of webmasters! rofl

I'm sure LL can keep Rob in line!

I loved Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeath (hubba hubba) and I used to sing along with Ice Ice Baby, that boy could dance though! Get Rob some boxing lessons, he got his ass KICKED by Todd Bridges from
Different Strokes on Celeb Boxing?!

Here's to Lady Law being the next Sharon Osbourne! :stout:

T-Rav
01-27-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 27 2003, 01:30 PM
T-Rav,
thanks a bunch!

we'll be in touch towards the end of the week,
we NEVER say NO to the hands throwing life lines
;-)))
No problem Serge, my pleasure.

I'm corresponding with your lovely wife as we speak. It sounds like she's got a good handle on it :)).

I'll be around like a doughnut...if anyone needs me...

LadyLaw
01-27-2003, 03:09 PM
A big THANK YOU to all of you....I so appreciate your words of encouragement, helpful advice, offers to help.

This is a big fat fun project and I am as excited as I have ever been about anything.

Shann, Sharon Osborne has my sympathies!! Let's just hope Serge doesn't get a zillion tats, grow his hair out, and start mumbling....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

kath
01-27-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by LadyLaw@Jan 27 2003, 12:17 PM
Sharon Osborne has my sympathies!! Let's just hope Serge doesn't get a zillion tats, grow his hair out, and start mumbling....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
Susanne... lmao

First off - I can't ever picture Serge going to those extremes. :yowsa:

Second - I know you'd never let it happen! :wnw:

It's been said and I totally agree - you two make a great team!

MikeW
01-27-2003, 04:26 PM
< note to self > Do not have turkish coffee at Serge's house < / end note>

:blink:

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01-27-2003, 04:34 PM
Mike, to late...you had it already, your life will never be the same
;-))

Forest
01-27-2003, 04:35 PM
if thats what your wearing to dinner Im going to be Way over dressed
:lol:

MikeW
01-27-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jan 27 2003, 04:42 PM
Mike, to late...you had it already, your life will never be the same
;-))
uhhhh, ok, let me rephrase my note:
< note to self > Do not have turkish coffee at Serge's house .. AGAIN < / end note>

;-)))))

Dravyk
01-28-2003, 03:45 AM
And I won't even tell you what the "froth" on the Cappaccino actually is. :zoinks:

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01-28-2003, 04:09 AM
Interesting how all comes about...

Music connections in Paris, London, California, New York...
everybody know somebody.

Gosh, I LOVE this internet business and the ease it puts people together!

Almighty Colin
01-28-2003, 10:40 AM
Cool!

The bass player from the band I once played in used to play with Joey Beladonna, the one-time vocalist of Anthrax. I used to be a huge fan of those guys.



Last edited by Colin at Jan 28 2003, 10:50 AM

Shann
01-28-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by LadyLaw@Jan 27 2003, 12:17 PM
A big THANK YOU to all of you....I so appreciate your words of encouragement, helpful advice, offers to help.

This is a big fat fun project and I am as excited as I have ever been about anything.

Shann, Sharon Osborne has my sympathies!! Let's just hope Serge doesn't get a zillion tats, grow his hair out, and start mumbling....

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
Aww come on! Serge with a sleeve of tattoos! How fitting! He doesn't mumble but with that accent, i dont know if it's harder to understand him or Ozzy! lol

Start decorating your houses with crucifixes! rofl Serge can dye his hair black and pink! Leather pants!

I hope you tour Toronto, I want back stage passes! :rokk:

gonzo
03-20-2007, 09:04 AM
Fast Forward to 2007

"That VOD thing . . . its never gonna stick", Evan Seinfeld / Mr. Tera Patrick

Toby
03-20-2007, 10:15 AM
OK, where's Hell Puppy? We need a translation. ;)

Inabon
03-20-2007, 10:22 AM
awesome drummer nice bass player

should be a good show with those 2 alone :)

good luck serge.

gonzo
03-20-2007, 10:34 AM
OK, where's Hell Puppy? We need a translation. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Seinfeld

The quote was one I overhead him make to one of the guys at the Playboy Club in Vegas this year.

VOD is a fad . . . no one will ever need more than 64K . . .

Toby
03-20-2007, 10:42 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Seinfeld

The quote was one I overhead him make to one of the guys at the Playboy Club in Vegas this year.

VOD is a fad . . . no one will ever need more than 64K . . .OK, I was with ya that far, but what's the connection to the megaband that never was?

gonzo
03-20-2007, 10:45 AM
OK, I was with ya that far, but what's the connection to the megaband that never was?
Porners that want to be rockers vs. rockers that want to be porners.

softball
03-20-2007, 11:08 AM
that was an interesting and educational thread. It reinforces what I have always thought. Don't jump in over your head in a business you know nothing about. A recipe for disaster, it is.

Toby
03-20-2007, 11:59 AM
Porners that want to be rockers vs. rockers that want to be porners.Ahhhhh. I guess I need to venture out the cave a bit more often. :rokk:

Forest
03-20-2007, 07:57 PM
ahhh what a great walk thru the old days

We had alot of fun back then

=)