View Full Version : Are Peaches, Serge, And Tonda White Names?
Almighty Colin
01-15-2003, 10:08 AM
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- It helps to have a white-sounding first name when looking for work, a new study has found.
Resumes with white-sounding first names elicited 50 percent more responses than ones with black-sounding names, according to a study by professors at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
The professors sent about 5,000 resumes in response to want ads in The Boston Globe and Chicago Tribune. They found that the "white" applicants they created received one response -- a call, letter or e-mail -- for every 10 resumes mailed, while "black" applicants with equal credentials received one response for every 15 resumes sent.
The study authors, including University of Chicago associate professor of economics Marianne Bertrand, said the results can solely be attributed to name manipulation.
"Our results so far suggest that there is a substantial amount of discrimination in the job recruiting process," they wrote.
The professors analyzed birth certificates in coming up with what names to use. The white names included Neil, Brett, Greg, Emily, Anne and Jill. Some of the black names used were Tamika, Ebony, Aisha, Rasheed, Kareem and Tyrone.
Companies that purported to be equal opportunity employers were no more likely to respond to black resumes than other businesses, the study found.
Carolyn Nordstrom, president of Chicago United, a group that seeks to increase corporate diversity, said the study shows the need to educate those that make hiring decisions.
"We like to believe that this has changed, but this is evidence that it hasn't," she said.
I dunno - Peaches and Tonda are questionable. <g> But Serge - just makes ya think White Russian - oh wait, that's a drink. Yeah, Serge makes me think about wanting to have a drink. No....that's not right either. lol
:lol:
In the area where I live it's more like Juanita, Jorge, Jose, Juan... and when my mom was out looking for a part-time job recently it was all those J-names that got hired instead. Apparently in California it's bad if your name is Barbara.
Unfortunately discrimination is still alive and well and living in the US today. In fact I hear - it's alive around the world. *sarcasm* It's an unfortunate fact of life. Whether you are in an area that is discriminate against black, white, hispanic, asian or whatever - the majority still wins out over the minority. I guess that's why I like the net. You can work here for years without people knowing what color your skin is - you're more judged on your words, your acts, your business practices and your community contributions. Too bad we can't all wear color-blind glasses in the "real world" and greet people based on their deeds all the time.
:agrin:
Almighty Colin
01-15-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by kath@Jan 15 2003, 11:54 AM
In the area where I live it's more like Juanita, Jorge, Jose, Juan... and when my mom was out looking for a part-time job recently it was all those J-names that got hired instead. Apparently in California it's bad if your name is Barbara.
HaHa. Here too. "Must be bi-lingual"
MikeW
01-15-2003, 12:04 PM
This is a perfect opportunity to bring back a classic ;-))) Let's even the playing field once and for all, for everyone shall we?
http://www.fadetoblack.com/namegenerator/
:rokk: :rokk: :rokk:
T-Rav
01-15-2003, 01:20 PM
I love those name generators.
Bow before Zuwadza!
I stopped the whole racism debate a few years ago. Trying to convince someone not to be a racist is very frustrating and always a waste of time. Maybe in a 100 years it won't matter anymore.
Dravyk
01-15-2003, 02:44 PM
It helps to have a white-sounding first name when looking for work, a new study has found.
I'm going to blow this theory out of the water using two words:
If you see the name VANILLA ICE on a resume would you hire him? :nyanya:
Sword
01-15-2003, 02:52 PM
Just to play devil's advocate here a little: If they did the exact same test, but sent the applications to predominantly black owned and operated businesses, do you think the results would come out the other way around?
Would more black names than white names get called in for interviews in that scenario?
Ok I'm confused (but not confucy)
Peaches, Serge, And Tonda are BLACK NAMES - I mean look, the names are black, as in black font, not to be confused with black ink
Now these are white names - Manny, Moe and Jack
I think (therefore I is) white names would do worse on apps and resumes as most are on white paper
Just goes to show .... Like Chuck Berry said ... you never can tell
Last edited by Vick at Jan 15 2003, 03:12 PM
Sharpie
01-15-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by MikeW@Jan 15 2003, 12:12 PM
This is a perfect opportunity to bring back a classic ;-))) Let's even the playing field once and for all, for everyone shall we?
http://www.fadetoblack.com/namegenerator/
:rokk: :rokk: :rokk:
What a scream.......
"From this day forward, you shall be known by all your brothers and sisters as:
Shebelle................. "
Works for me!
MissEve
01-15-2003, 04:16 PM
lol, how about names like Esa and Dondrea? :)
ShannonRush
01-15-2003, 04:27 PM
Thanks MikeW...
...I be Shaleesa!
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 05:04 PM
Nickatilynx =Zuwarah
I kinda prefer Zuwarah :)
Not fair - you guys all got cool Afrikan sounding names - Kath or even Kathleen translates out to....
Huggy bear?!? WTF? lmao
originalheather
01-15-2003, 05:23 PM
Esa means "That" in Spanish...so you could go either way, girlie :)
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 05:24 PM
Esa means "That" in Spanish...so you could go either way, girlie
Go either way huh? DAMN!!!!!
;)
MissEve
01-15-2003, 05:35 PM
Don't tell KC! :P
originalheather
01-15-2003, 05:36 PM
Oh, Monkey Girl, we've known about you for years :P
Proof that I'm a bad mo'fo':
From this day forward, you shall be known by all your brothers and sisters as:
Shaft
:rokk:
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 05:55 PM
Your damn right!
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 06:19 PM
I ran the name "Dravyk" through there......
It came back.............
"LOSER"
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
:devil: :devil:
Dravyk
01-15-2003, 06:19 PM
Your damn right!
Scary images suddenly of Nick as backup singer to Issac Hayes. :zoinks:
But he does look good in a mini skirt, I must say. :P
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 06:20 PM
I do have the legs for it :)
originalheather
01-15-2003, 06:22 PM
The maid is staring at me sitting here looking at the monitor and laughing my ass off :P Hey, a new diet plan!! :D
Dravyk
01-15-2003, 06:22 PM
I ran "Nickatilynx" through there ...
It came back with a warning page saying that I, ahem, "Nickatilynx", was wanted in 97 countries and not to move. :o
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 06:23 PM
Its nice to be wanted Drav :)
You wouldn't know :)
Dravyk
01-15-2003, 06:26 PM
Its nice to be wanted Drav smile.gif
You wouldn't know
.... And I won't be finding out what it's like to be the fav bitch of Mongo from Cellblock C either!!! :inlove:
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 06:29 PM
.... And I won't be finding out what it's like to be the fav bitch of Mongo from Cellblock C either!!!
Lame comeback,Drav!!!!
I WILL be mongo :)
gotta go ...its my daughters birthday.CYA in the am.That should give you time to think of spontaneous taunts :)
originalheather
01-15-2003, 06:31 PM
time to think of spontaneous taunts
I love those "spontaneous" comebacks that take hours to think up :P
Dravyk
01-15-2003, 06:34 PM
I WILL be mongo
Damn, and you say mine are lame? ROTFL!
... Besides you can't be Mongo, you're wearing the mini skirt. :awinky:
originalheather
01-15-2003, 06:35 PM
I heard that KK was missing one from our room in Vegas...but they swear that Nick wasn't there :P
Nickatilynx
01-15-2003, 07:42 PM
KK is thin. :)
I'd rip her miniskirt.............
or have a dang good try at it :)
originalheather
01-15-2003, 08:57 PM
You could use your teeth if you weren't a'scared of the dentist :P
slavdogg
01-15-2003, 09:55 PM
wtf, my african name is "Buckwheat "
that doesnt sound very african to me.
slavdogg
01-15-2003, 10:01 PM
and to all the gringos with a new African name, Happy Kwanza
:D
princess
01-17-2003, 04:24 AM
Boy this gives a whole new meaning to the word mutipule personalities.
You can basically be a different person every day of the week just visit it daily it'll almost give you something new each time.
Almighty Colin
01-17-2003, 05:13 AM
I used to have a white name but it's black now.
Almighty Colin
01-17-2003, 09:50 AM
What about "Torone"?
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