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Vick

11-13-2002, 01:32 PM

I'm a huge admirier of Samuel Clemens and his works as Mark Twain

Also I sat on a dictionary to reach the table as a child .....
so I acquired most of my vocabulary by osmosis

The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them.

Almighty Colin

11-13-2002, 01:41 PM

I'm for burning the book banners, :grrr:

Almighty Colin

11-13-2002, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 13 2002, 01:49 PM
I'm for burning the book banners, :grrr:
Not the ones you click on and end up at Amazon.com though.

Cal

11-13-2002, 01:57 PM

I'm for mandatory self-immolation for book banners.

Despite any apparent contradictions!

Speaking of Amazon, the free speech haven where they will 'sell anything' with no discrimination:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096...6485911-9938220 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0967699703/qid=1037217995/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/103-6485911-9938220)

:angry:

C.

SykkBoy

11-13-2002, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 13 2002, 01:40 PM
Also I sat on a dictionary to reach the table as a child .....
so I acquired most of my vocabulary by osmosis

hmmm, can I insert my own "no wonder Vick talks out of his ass" jokes here? ;))))))

T-Rav

11-13-2002, 03:39 PM

Huh...not sure I get the joke.

Book banning, bad.

Censorship, bad.

I'm sure that a lot of the books I read have been banned. Don't know that much about it.

Ahh...that reminds me of a story (this is when my friends usually moan, and change the subject very quickly).

When I was 8 my dad and I were driving in his convertible Alfa Romeo, and we drove by a protest of pornographic magazines going on at 7-11. He yelled at the people picketing...WHY DON'T YOU GO AND BURN SOME BIBLES! I thought he was going to pull over and kick their asses right there. Ahh, dear old dad...gotta love him. Needless to say, he's where I get my hardcore stance on freedom of speech, etc.

Mike AI

11-13-2002, 05:26 PM

Censoprship is not only wrong, but in the modern world pretty much impossible.

Ask the Chinese who keep trying to put bans on certain websites and such.... everytime they find a way to block a certain site, there are 4 million chinese computer geeks working on work arounds....

IN an infromation society and world we live in, censorship will soon be a moot issue.

Cal

11-13-2002, 05:47 PM

But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior? I may differ from a lot of humanist/pinkos in this respect, but I am very pro-law and order. And not the TV show, though it used to be good. *rim shot*

If you have a book like the Anarchist's Cookbook which is questionably offering tips on how to build bombs and it does not have an EDUCATIONAL purpose, again difficult to debate in this case, should you make it readily available to the public? If you really want to censor a book put it in the library since no Americans go there anyhow. :rolleyes:

There are no books out there that give you 14 recipes for a dirty bomb, so there obviously is a line drawn somewhere. I'm torn on the issue since I'm very literary in nature, and totally pro-expression. But the obscenity laws say that unless something has ARTISTIC value, it can be obscene. Do these books have artistic value, or do they benefit the public in any way? Would reading a book about boylovers be considered useful?

C.

Almighty Colin

11-15-2002, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Cal@Nov 13 2002, 05:55 PM
But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior?
OK, Cal. Now we KNOW you're a commie!

(The authoritarian communist type)

AngryAryan

11-15-2002, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 15 2002, 02:48 AM

OK, Cal. Now we KNOW you're a commie!

(The authoritarian communist type)
Do you miss GFY?

Last edited by AngryAryan at Nov 15 2002, 02:55 AM

Almighty Colin

11-15-2002, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by AngryAryan@Nov 15 2002, 05:54 AM

Do you miss GFY?
Did something happen to it?

Torone

11-15-2002, 09:00 AM

I will read any book that I find interesting...I remember finding one of my 2nd ex's 'hot books'; and suddenly discovering where she got many of her kinky bedroom ideas. :bdance:

Almighty Colin

11-15-2002, 09:06 AM

Torone - I read Cosmopolitan in the bathroom.

SykkBoy

11-15-2002, 11:25 AM

Anyone else want to get in on the Harry Potter bookshredding fun?
http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20021115/D.../D7NAEDLO0.html (http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20021115/D7NAEDLO0.html)

It figures....a book finally comes about to get millions of kids excited about reading again and some fundamentalist Christian cunt wants to dstroy it....maybe if kids knew about the incest, adultery, violence, genocide, hatred, racism and brutality in the Bible, they'd read that a bit more too...

I hate Christians.......
The next person that God blesses mee is going to get punched in the face....goddamn Salvation Army Santas.............

sorry, had to vent...

oh yeah, Fuck Christmas too

Edd

11-15-2002, 11:39 AM

NO problem, Sykk - feel free to rant all you like! :grrr:

I've never been a big fan of christianity myself - the dogma is a bit much! I'm sure Beltane was a cool holiday before the stupid christians took it over!

And before anyone asks I'm a lapsed Buddhist. :awinky:

Vick

11-15-2002, 11:44 AM

And before anyone asks I'm a lapsed Buddhist

Seeing as Buidda is always show as fat ....
How many laps did you run?
Or do you mean Budda lapped you .......

and yes I am guilty of reading all the Harry Potter books as well

Scream until you like it!!!!

MikeW

11-15-2002, 11:46 AM

Sykk ... here's a new avatar, just for you ;-))

http://www.wyldesites.com/christians.gif

:devil:

Edd

11-15-2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Vick@Nov 15 2002, 11:52 AM
Seeing as Buidda is always show as fat ....
How many laps did you run?
Or do you mean Budda lapped you .......

and yes I am guilty of reading all the Harry Potter books as well

Scream until you like it!!!!
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

I LIKE IT I LIKE IT!! :rolleyes:

ulfie

11-15-2002, 11:51 AM

God bless you sykkboy. :P

There is a healthy dose of people that that Harry Potter is about witchcraft. 99.995% of those people have never actually read the books. Ignorance truly is bliss.

Vick

11-15-2002, 12:00 PM

"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. "

"Most writers regard truth as their most valuable possession, and are therefor most economical with it's use. "

Apply either of these quotes above by the great American writer Mark Twain to the Harry Potter "protest"

In fact I'm starting to be of the opinion that Mark Twain wrote about most everything and one of his quotes will fit any occasion

"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to. "

Peaches

11-15-2002, 12:01 PM

I'll read just about anything, though most non-fiction that's not a biography or autobiography I usually avoid. Reading is a source of entertainment to me and I'm not entertained by facts :awinky: Though I do enjoy reading magazines - I can take reality doled out in small doses :D

I also have books every where - there's my "next to the bed" book, my "take to the dock" book, my "car" book and during the summer, my "pool" book.

I like "women's" books, but I HATE the romance books. I liked almost all the books that Oprah picked out - sue me :rolleyes:

I LOVE the Harry Potter books, but I'll never forgive myself for sneak reading The Exorcist in HS. My mother would have passed out if she knew I was reading it, so I read it at night...in the dark...with a flashlight...how I finished it is beyond me! :blink:

T-Rav

11-15-2002, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Cal@Nov 13 2002, 05:55 PM
But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior?
Holy shit Cal, come on...

I retract my previous statement "I don't think you are a communist."

You might be a communist.

I've read all the Harry Potter books. I started reading them to my kids, then after they'd go to bed I'd read ahead.

I dislike christians too...they make me sick to my stomach...

If I ever catch someone burning ANY book, I will personally fuck them up.

Almighty Colin

11-15-2002, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 15 2002, 12:09 PM
I liked almost all the books that Oprah picked out - sue me :rolleyes:

A quick formula for success. Write a book and get it in Oprah's Book Club. Then release it as a movie. Oprah has become so powerful in the entertainment industry that her word makes books bestsellers and movies top at the box office.

Did you read White Oleander? I liked the movie.

Peaches

11-15-2002, 12:58 PM

Did you read White Oleander? I liked the movie.

Read the book and saw the movie - one the few I was happy with the transformation from print to film :) The book had beautiful descriptive writing - I was VERY impressed they managed to put the beauty and darkness together in the movie :rokk:

Cal

11-15-2002, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Colin+Nov 15 2002, 02:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Nov 15 2002, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Cal@Nov 13 2002, 05:55 PM
But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior?
OK, Cal. Now we KNOW you're a commie!

(The authoritarian communist type)[/b][/quote]
So following your logic (?) you support child molestation and pedophilia. Thanks for clearing that up.

C.

SykkBoy

11-15-2002, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Peaches@Nov 15 2002, 12:09 PM

I LOVE the Harry Potter books, but I'll never forgive myself for sneak reading The Exorcist in HS. My mother would have passed out if she knew I was reading it, so I read it at night...in the dark...with a flashlight...how I finished it is beyond me! :blink:
Me too...I've read all of the books and love to be transported to this magical place that is Hogwart's School Of Witchcraft And Wizardry....

so many people avoid the books and dismiss them as "kid's books"....I say they are great fantasy novels with broad appeal, kids just happened to latch onto them before parents did ;)

BTW, took the kids to Chamber Of Secrets today...excellent movie...I was worried about my kids sitting through a 2 hour 40 minute movie, but they didn't budge once, even for a bathroom break....

...off to break out tthe DVD of Sorcerer's Stone again....then if there's time, another reading of Prisoner Of Azkaban....I might even include the kids ;)))

TheEnforcer

11-15-2002, 10:13 PM

I was lucky enough to have a father who LOVED to collect classic books. He's got books that would make people at the Antiques Roadshow have their wildest wet dreams!! :yowsa:

TheEnforcer

11-15-2002, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Cal@Nov 13 2002, 05:55 PM
But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior? I may differ from a lot of humanist/pinkos in this respect, but I am very pro-law and order. And not the TV show, though it used to be good. *rim shot*

If you have a book like the Anarchist's Cookbook which is questionably offering tips on how to build bombs and it does not have an EDUCATIONAL purpose, again difficult to debate in this case, should you make it readily available to the public? If you really want to censor a book put it in the library since no Americans go there anyhow. :rolleyes:

There are no books out there that give you 14 recipes for a dirty bomb, so there obviously is a line drawn somewhere. I'm torn on the issue since I'm very literary in nature, and totally pro-expression. But the obscenity laws say that unless something has ARTISTIC value, it can be obscene. Do these books have artistic value, or do they benefit the public in any way? Would reading a book about boylovers be considered useful?

C.
Information in and of itself isn't wrong. It's what people USE the information for that causes the problems.

In what is SUPPOSED to be a free and open society you have to live with the fact that information isn't always going to be used for the nobelest intentions.

TheEnforcer

11-15-2002, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by SykkBoy+Nov 15 2002, 08:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SykkBoy @ Nov 15 2002, 08:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Nov 15 2002, 12:09 PM

I LOVE the Harry Potter books, but I'll never forgive myself for sneak reading The Exorcist in HS. My mother would have passed out if she knew I was reading it, so I read it at night...in the dark...with a flashlight...how I finished it is beyond me! :blink:
Me too...I've read all of the books and love to be transported to this magical place that is Hogwart's School Of Witchcraft And Wizardry....

so many people avoid the books and dismiss them as "kid's books"....I say they are great fantasy novels with broad appeal, kids just happened to latch onto them before parents did ;)

BTW, took the kids to Chamber Of Secrets today...excellent movie...I was worried about my kids sitting through a 2 hour 40 minute movie, but they didn't budge once, even for a bathroom break....

...off to break out tthe DVD of Sorcerer's Stone again....then if there's time, another reading of Prisoner Of Azkaban....I might even include the kids ;)))[/b][/quote]
Just got back from seeing that movie with my wife. EXCELLENT movie.

fatman

11-17-2002, 03:32 AM

Nabokov's Lolita bored me, but I endured it.

Great fan of:
Salinger: 9 short stories is excellent as is catcher in the rye of course.

Huxley: Brave New World made me seek the soma in my life.

C.S. Lewis: The Chronicles of Narnia kicks the Harry Potters series ass

Charles "Hank" Bukowski: Any of his poetry...but Hollywood had me
laughing my fucking ass off. He also opened my eyes to what writing really is all about.

Mary Shelly: Frankenstein nothing can touch this suspensful masterpiece.

H.G. Wells: War of the worlds...fucking awesome.

Aww the list goes on...makes me wanna read more...don't get to do that much now days :(

Almighty Colin

11-17-2002, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by Cal+Nov 15 2002, 01:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cal @ Nov 15 2002, 01:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by -Colin@Nov 15 2002, 02:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Cal@Nov 13 2002, 05:55 PM
But do you think Amazon should be listing books encouraging criminal behavior?
OK, Cal. Now we KNOW you're a commie!

(The authoritarian communist type)
So following your logic (?) you support child molestation and pedophilia. Thanks for clearing that up.

C.[/b][/quote]
What logic was that? How can you possibly conclude that I support either of those two things?

Sorry, I'd like to keep the Bill of Rights.

Cal

11-17-2002, 01:50 PM

The logic that led you to conclude I was a Communist based on my asking whether Amazon should sell books advocating pedophilia.

C.

gigi

11-18-2002, 01:01 AM

I hate Christians.......
The next person that God blesses mee is going to get punched in the face....goddamn Salvation Army Santas.............

Sykk....I....just....don't....know....what......to ......say......lmao :inlove: Thanks for the bubbles in my nose..... :rokk:

Check this out folks....banned books sept. 2001

http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us/arl/bookli.../banned2001.htm (http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us/arl/booklists/banned2001.htm)

...amazing..... :heil: